Do you smell jealousy? - Page 2

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Tumbbad is a better movie storytelling n cinematography wise.. but wasn't able to grab love and attention of wider audience, that's where Kantara succeeded.

Jo bhi keh lo every filmmaker at the end of the day would want that their movie makes money.

Anand here is clearly jealous of Kantara made more money. Hajam nahi ho raha.

Tummbad had a weird promo

Tumbbad was Rahi Idea. Anand Gandhi calling it "my idea"😆

https://twitter.com/BarveRahi/status/1598970179765309440?t=SuHKLt82zzd3a_EAtpERWA&s=19

tumbaad is way too overhyped !

Just facts. People may not like it but most overhyped regional films are no less on graphic violence or misogyny and celebration of toxic masculinity.

They are no less than Bollywood in that department of misogyny and objectification of women.

Rather their male characters are backward and regressive and I can easily understand what kind of masses like those films and scenes.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Tumbbad was Rahi Idea. Anand Gandhi calling it "my idea"😆

Aloo can name her second child Rahi, just saying 😆

Chirkut ko apna 2 minute fame mil gaya.

TOI ko bhi lagata woh director hai lol

This guy is so pretentious, tumbbad was good but not so great as elite Hindi cinephiles are making it out to be, it had the usual pretentious tropes and European or western art house influences which these ppl lap up, the bgm was by some danish guy which sounded like stranger things

It is fashionable for these ppl to string along some words and make themselves appeal to the elite, the characters tumbbad also were toxic one may say they met a bad end but the theme was about greed, they met their end because of greed not because of some toxic masculinity. The basic premise of tumbbad from folklore similar to paheli, about excess greed, this guy is adding his current pet themes to the center of the story

kantara too is about evolution from a useless guy to eventually being one with the deity. his mom was constantly beating and berating him and the village folk too were not idolizing him

Kantara was less pretentious and hence had more mass appeal

It is about perception. One should live in utopia if they believe that in real world even in all tribal communities man treats women with respect and woman expects man to seek approval before touching her . The truth is many women normalise violence , non-consensual touch and many women even consider these are the traits of men. I am from small town . One day my uncle questioned an alcoholic husband who was beating his wife . Uncle intervened because the wailing of the wife was regular occurrence. But when he interfered the wife came to the support of her husband. She justified his actions saying that" he is my husband,he can do whatever he wants, who are you to question him"? This is not the perspective of one woman ,many women believes so and majority of men in conservative, regressive society has the same mentality. Shiva in Kantara is a representative of a conservative community and we cannot expect politically correct behaviour from him. Whether his every actions should be celebrated is the choice of the audience.

Though I love the cinematic brilliance of both Kantara and Tumbad ,both the films are not good examples of woke culture.Tumbbad not only portrays toxic masculinity but even all the women in Vinayak Rao except for the wife is portrayed as greedy .

What I liked about Kantara is it portrays hitherto ignored counterculture.

He's spot on , Kantara was shite other than the last 20 minutes, wouldn't have worked if it was a bollywood movie

Originally posted by: Kamala05

It is about perception. One should live in utopia if they believe that in real world even in all tribal communities man treats women with respect and woman expects man to seek approval before touching her . The truth is many women normalise violence , non-consensual touch and many women even consider these are the traits of men. I am from small town . One day my uncle questioned an alcoholic husband who was beating his wife . Uncle intervened because the wailing of the wife was regular occurrence. But when he interfered the wife came to the support of her husband. She justified his actions saying that" he is my husband,he can do whatever he wants, who are you to question him"? This is not the perspective of one woman ,many women believes so and majority of men in conservative, regressive society has the same mentality. Shiva in Kantara is a representative of a conservative community and we cannot expect politically correct behaviour from him. Whether his every actions should be celebrated is the choice of the audience.

Though I love the cinematic brilliance of both Kantara and Tumbad ,both the films are not good examples of woke culture.Tumbbad not only portrays toxic masculinity but even the women in Vinayak Rao wife is portrayed as greedy .

What I liked about Kantara is it portrays hitherto ignored counterculture.

It's not about being politically correct. Portraying sexism and misogyny and abuse while not condoning them is quite possible.

The heroic BGM music for example. Or showing the *hero* getting payback. Or simply not showing abusive jerks in a sympathetic light.

Eons ago, there was a Malayalam movie which showed a doctor who was busy with a spiraling pregnant patient whose life she saved. Doctor missed her daughter's birthday party. When she got home, doctor's hubby slapped her across the face for not being a good mother.

Other characters were fully supportive of hubby. I believe wifey doctor eventually realizes her grievous error of stopping to save a pregnant woman and her unborn baby when she should've been at the birthday party.

Up to and including the slap, it was reality. The rest was justification of misogyny and abuse. I could cite so many such examples from 1980s/90s Malayalam movies.