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Posted: 3 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Goddy2010

Adi didn’t become a hero since he loved Imlie, he became when he realized his mistakes, accepted them full heartedly and started taking measures to correct them. Falling in love with Imlie was a natural progression to their relationship which was not done intentionally or with the motive to cheat Malini. The moment he realized and accepted it he does not want to cheat himself or Malini by having a namesake relationship. May be if he would have not accepted it, he would have never become a bigamist or the bad guy. Even if a woman realizes her mistakes and want to correct it, she will also be a hero in my eyes. So let’s just remove man/woman from this equation.

@Bold: Does anyone cheat on anyone with the motive to it?

Malini did not deserve a person cheating on her.

Aditya did not cheat on Malini with the motive to it?

Namesake relationship?

First his relationship with Imlie was non-existent because he didn't want it. Then his relationship with Malini was namesake because he fell in love with Imlie.

I thought he married Malini with consent. I thought that relationship mattered to him.

How is that relation a namesake.


And man/woman was never in the equation now, was it?

He realised his mistakes, he tried to correct them, he made them worse.

Edited by komaliyaaa - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: komaliyaaa

@Bold: Does anyone cheat on anyone with the motive to it?

Malini did not deserve a person cheating on her.

Aditya did not cheat on Malini with the motive to it?

Namesake relationship?

First his relationship with Imlie was non-existent because he didn't want it. Then his relationship with Malini was namesake because he fell in love with Imlie.

I thought he married Malini with consent. I thought that relationship mattered to him.

How is that a relation namesake.


And man/woman was never in the equation now, was it?

He realised his mistakes, he tried to correct them,3 he made them worse.

People can have a Eureka! moment after seven years of courtship and months ot marriage that they didn't know what love meant.

What is to say that they ever will?

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Posted: 3 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: Deltablues

People can have a Eureka! moment after seven years of courtship and months ot marriage that they didn't know what love meant.

What is to say that they ever will?

I feel his definition of love will remain ever-changing...

What can we do?🤷‍♀️

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Posted: 3 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: timepassing


His character development was within the scope of how the story is written! The interpretation of his character is from the assumption that the situations in the story are what happened in real, not something that can be changed. So if the story had been written to where he revealed the truth to Malini of the forced wedding, and Mlaini has either chosen to not marry him or have him divorce Imlie or complain to the police about the practice of forced weddings in Pag Dandia, the serial would have finished in the first 50 episodes! Would his use of words pf apni jagah and aukaat been less wrong if Imlie's character had been 22 instead of 18, a college going kid whose dream was to pursue a PG degree or some other competitive exam? If we argue that the character should have been written differently, I can point that out for almost every character in the serial. Satyakam who is supposedly this revolutionary rebel leader who fights for justice for the villagers supposedly would not have let this happen if he had been there when the wedding happened. Shouldn't the doting father have come after his teenaged daughter who was forcefully married off to a visiting journalist? And what's more, knowing that the wedding was forced upon both of them, and knowing he had another family, though it justified to come and act as a vigilante because at some point, a lady whom he loves/loved was cheated by an urban babu, and hence all urban babus are bad! So there are many probelms with the general characterization and the story itself. And the interpretations we make for the characters are within the confines of how they have been written.

It's not like the character could have gone off to do the right thing by himself, if the story demanded something else of him entirely. Here's where I guess the credit goes to the actor, in making an extremely problematic character like that of Aditya relatable and somewhat likeable. And believe me, the forum at one point used to be fun to come to, and not be this constant barrage of threads and people trying to virtue signal, because the old members were watching it for what it was, a fictional story, and not really looking to take any inspiration or life lessons out of it. So we have been as critical of Aditya as a character as we have liked him, according to how the story was progressing!


In that vein, I find ASR's characteristic as a boss also extremely problematic. But it's drama and hence meant to be OTT, and beyond the problematic storyline, his characterization, as a complete opposite to that of Aditya's is quite nice!


@Bold: I have been inactive on the forum nowadays because, get this, this forum is on war. We, that is the ASR's fans, have been constantly questioned on our preferences, and I was actually scared before starting this thread too. But alas, the things this show makes me do. But that is all okay. This is a virtual forum and we cannot control or stop everyone from passing judgements, even on preferences that do not cater to the show. So. That's that.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: komaliyaaa

@Bold: Does anyone cheat on anyone with the motive to it?

Malini did not deserve a person cheating on her.

Aditya did not cheat on Malini with the motive to it?

Namesake relationship?

First his relationship with Imlie was non-existent because he didn't want it. Then his relationship with Malini was namesake because he fell in love with Imlie.

I thought he married Malini with consent. I thought that relationship mattered to him.

How is that relation a namesake.


And man/woman was never in the equation now, was it?

He realised his mistakes, he tried to correct them, he made them worse.

What I noticed is that First he was unfair n rude to Imlie. Later when he so called realised that he loves Imlie.. he became rude n unfair to Malini..

So, I didn't see any growth in him as a character. And when Malini brought that whole having boyfriend thing.. He jumped n took that excuse to absolve himself from the guilt. 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Posted: 3 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: shalu79

What I noticed is that First he was unfair n rude to Imlie. Later when he so called realised that he loves Imlie.. he became rude n unfair to Malini..

So, I didn't see any growth in him as a character. And when Malini brought that whole having boyfriend thing.. He jumped n took that excuse to absolve himself from the guilt. 🤦🏻‍♀️

He always uses whatever harebrained thing either women said as an easy cope-out.

"Oh you hoodwinked Malini into believing that you were bachelor when marrying her"— "Imlie asked me to"

Coming clean to Malini months after marriage isn't damage control"— "She said she had a boyfriend out of thin air."

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Posted: 3 years ago
#67

Anyhow, the idea of Aditya being a good journalist canonically falls flat too.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ jayarythm11/status

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Edited by Deltablues - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Anyhow, the idea of Aditya being a good journalist canonically falls flat too.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ jayarythm11/status

/1511916147943256068

He did destroy some important evidence against Malini..
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Posted: 3 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: komaliyaaa

I am glad that you've found this a healthy discussion.

I aim to be as respectful of your views as you are mine.

First of all, hats off to you in managing a healthy and respectful discussion!

In order to answer your question, I need to relate an incident from another forum. So I watch a lot of kdramas and active on another forum. In that particular drama, the main OTP was a limp bore. How boring? They didn't even get nominated for best couple at the annual award for the channel. The drama had 3 or 4 other couples. In that 2 other couples (one of them an older and comic couple) were nominated. The older couple who were hilarious won the hearts of audience with the most votes. Now, the reason the main OTP hardly had fans was because the FL was an idiot.

She was indecisive to the core -- she had an ex who went from loving her to suddenly harassing her? (well, some of us viewers thought the writer was trying to re-write the drama in order to give her a new love line but whatever). Anyway, the ex was harassing her and instead of telling anyone, she cries for a good chunk of the episodes. Then she runs out of her wedding/engagement from her new love and hides in some rural farm. Many in the thread cursed her while fans of the OTP felt bad.

Then one of the viewers explained how she related to the FL and how she struggled to speak up in certain situations -- for her, the FL was really relatable. It was a light bulb moment for me because I never thought that people struggle to speak up or make a decision 💡 -- I was viewing the drama from my own perspective but it never struck me that people like the FL actually exist in real life and someone could relate to her crying fest. Anyway, we had a happy story in that the forum members realized that while there was no way to understand why people liked this weird OTP, we respected their choice while they respected our choice to like the other couples more especially the older couple. So we had a live and let live type vibe.


Now, back to this drama, I absolutely despise indecisive men who sit behind their ego -- for me, if you want to be leader, then lead. If you don't want to be, then step aside and let someone else competent lead. That is my attitude and a character like Aditya would irk me to the core. He is the type of manager who would refuse to make a decision but would not let any team member shine because they don't want to be outshone. Instead, the team only receives the negatives and none of the positives.

It is why when I first saw the promo for Imlie, I immediately switched off in my head -- a man who is stuck in between two women and cannot choose? My reaction -- moron!!! No, I don't sympathize with such characters.....


However, something I have learned from interacting in forums and viewers in different drama threads is that people often relate to a couple or a character because of the following:

a. Something about the arc or the character's arc is inspirational. so maybe you are struggling with something and the way a character approaches it inspires you to think in a different way.

b. Something about the arc or the character theme or feeling feels soothing to the viewer at that point in time. for example, maybe the character is crying buckets and you are going through a tough time in real life. so you allow yourself to feel sad and let go of that emotion as you watch the drama.

c. Something about the arc or the character is basically a small part a reflection of you -- I have found that people who are drawn to a certain OTP as opposed to another one, there are deep reasons for that. Either the viewer wants that same romantic dynamic or it is something they are familiar with themselves. Or they may identify with a character trait of one of the OTP that they find it more romantic.

So let me explain further -- lets look at the possible coupling of Arpita and Sundar -- I am looking forward to it already because I expect it will be mature, poignant and sweet. Now if you are not interested in that type of romance (maybe you are at a younger age where you prefer cheeky romances), you may be thinking this pairing is a borefest. However, that does not mean it really is.

People tend to get into fan wars over OTPs but really what they are fighting for is their own personal romantic taste/aspiration. It is why they get so heated and attacked because on a deep level it feels like someone is telling them that they can't have that hope in their own romantic life.


My point is that for some reason, people found Aditya relatable in some level -- maybe the fact that he struggled to make a decision hit home for some. Maybe that he struggled to hurt the people he love by opening his mouth was relatable for some. Maybe they could see that behind the ego was a man who was stuck in a weird situation and had no idea what to do. Maybe they relate to having a strong pride but not knowing how to seek help and ask for advice. I really don't know what drew the viewers because I only watched from Aryan's entry and frankly will not go back and watch from the beginning.

Personally I value decisiveness and telling it as it is -- that is why I love Aryan and can relate to him. It is why I am writing long fangirling posts 😂 if you have seen them. So I know that I would not be able to relate to Aditya at all. However, rather than a black vs white approach, I will simply leave this question in the area of "it was a weird problematic story but for some reason, (maybe the actor), people were able to relate and found the drama enjoyable" 🤷‍♀️

Edited by mango.falooda - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#70

I absolutely relate to all your points and I do watch your threads on ASR! They are gold.


The problem for me is there has been no light bulb moment for me yet. I like Aryan's character, with and without Imlie. They are my OTP too.

AdiLie I get! They are not my OTP, never will be. I want to see Aditya as a relatable character.


I guess, I'm just waiting for the light bulb moment.


(I'm not lying when I say that the threads I've read of yours are good.)

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