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Posted: 3 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Do people realise that being 'flawed' is neither an excuse nor an absolvement to be abusive? All of us are flawed— we aren't God after all. Most of us still, sonehow, manage to not commit crimes— like bigamy, obstruction of justice, labour exploitation etc etc etc.

When was Aditya written in such a way that he was worthy of Imlie. Most of things enlisted above happened months before the advent of Aryan. This was the same guy who instructed an 18 y/o employee to not forget her "jagah" within first 20 episodes of the show. This was the same guy who said things like "tumhari himmat kaise hui? [...] Kya socha tha, munh mangi keemat de denge?" when Imlie tried to assert her wifely rights 270+ episodes prior to Aryan's advent. Could he not council Imlie into breaking her socialisation that ratified the coerced wedding? She was the traumatised teenaged highschooler, he the award-winning journalist, after all, albeit traumatised himself.

Yet he chose to obfuscate the truth to Malini on his own volition. He chose to not spare a thought to Imlie when this misguided teenager, he'd just met weeks earlier, told him to get married to Malini without nullifying his marriage to her

Then he continued to be nasty towards her as a trauma response—because she reminded him of the truth that his spineless ass had used a highschooler's idealistic drivel as an easy cope-out?

Sorry but the perpetuation of the cycle of abuse makes you an abuser as well. A person csn be a survivor and an abuser in different contexts.

Then he became a hero when he realised that he loved Imlie?

When had he ever considered anyboby else's feelings, trauma, consequences? Dil behlane ko Ghalib yeh khayal accha hai ki Aditya was rendered completely unsuitable for Imlie to highlight Aryan's suitability. If anything, Aryan has been written as a complete antithesis of what Aditya had been from Day 1.

Which is to say, Aditya Kumar Tripathi comes across as a raging naricissist in the posts above mine.

To say that Gashmeer's acting or his chemistry with Sumbul made the Adilie equation palatable is to Ralph's superlative acting turned Voldemort into Mother Teresa.

People can love a shitty character for the crafty way it's written or enacted without resorting to literary and mental gymnastics to excuse their shittiness. Aditya loses out even on that front.


His character development was within the scope of how the story is written! The interpretation of his character is from the assumption that the situations in the story are what happened in real, not something that can be changed. So if the story had been written to where he revealed the truth to Malini of the forced wedding, and Mlaini has either chosen to not marry him or have him divorce Imlie or complain to the police about the practice of forced weddings in Pag Dandia, the serial would have finished in the first 50 episodes! Would his use of words pf apni jagah and aukaat been less wrong if Imlie's character had been 22 instead of 18, a college going kid whose dream was to pursue a PG degree or some other competitive exam? If we argue that the character should have been written differently, I can point that out for almost every character in the serial. Satyakam who is supposedly this revolutionary rebel leader who fights for justice for the villagers supposedly would not have let this happen if he had been there when the wedding happened. Shouldn't the doting father have come after his teenaged daughter who was forcefully married off to a visiting journalist? And what's more, knowing that the wedding was forced upon both of them, and knowing he had another family, though it justified to come and act as a vigilante because at some point, a lady whom he loves/loved was cheated by an urban babu, and hence all urban babus are bad! So there are many probelms with the general characterization and the story itself. And the interpretations we make for the characters are within the confines of how they have been written.

It's not like the character could have gone off to do the right thing by himself, if the story demanded something else of him entirely. Here's where I guess the credit goes to the actor, in making an extremely problematic character like that of Aditya relatable and somewhat likeable. And believe me, the forum at one point used to be fun to come to, and not be this constant barrage of threads and people trying to virtue signal, because the old members were watching it for what it was, a fictional story, and not really looking to take any inspiration or life lessons out of it. So we have been as critical of Aditya as a character as we have liked him, according to how the story was progressing!


In that vein, I find ASR's characteristic as a boss also extremely problematic. But it's drama and hence meant to be OTT, and beyond the problematic storyline, his characterization, as a complete opposite to that of Aditya's is quite nice!

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Posted: 3 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: timepassing


His character development was within the scope of how the story is written! The interpretation of his character is from the assumption that the situations in the story are what happened in real, not something that can be changed. So if the story had been written to where he revealed the truth to Malini of the forced wedding, and Mlaini has either chosen to not marry him or have him divorce Imlie or complain to the police about the practice of forced weddings in Pag Dandia, the serial would have finished in the first 50 episodes! Would his use of words pf apni jagah and aukaat been less wrong if Imlie's character had been 22 instead of 18, a college going kid whose dream was to pursue a PG degree or some other competitive exam? If we argue that the character should have been written differently, I can point that out for almost every character in the serial. Satyakam who is supposedly this revolutionary rebel leader who fights for justice for the villagers supposedly would not have let this happen if he had been there when the wedding happened. Shouldn't the doting father have come after his teenaged daughter who was forcefully married off to a visiting journalist? And what's more, knowing that the wedding was forced upon both of them, and knowing he had another family, though it justified to come and act as a vigilante because at some point, a lady whom he loves/loved was cheated by an urban babu, and hence all urban babus are bad! So there are many probelms with the general characterization and the story itself. And the interpretations we make for the characters are within the confines of how they have been written.

It's not like the character could have gone off to do the right thing by himself, if the story demanded something else of him entirely. Here's where I guess the credit goes to the actor, in making an extremely problematic character like that of Aditya relatable and somewhat likeable. And believe me, the forum at one point used to be fun to come to, and not be this constant barrage of threads and people trying to virtue signal, because the old members were watching it for what it was, a fictional story, and not really looking to take any inspiration or life lessons out of it. So we have been as critical of Aditya as a character as we have liked him, according to how the story was progressing!


In that vein, I find ASR's characteristic as a boss also extremely problematic. But it's drama and hence meant to be OTT, and beyond the problematic storyline, his characterization, as a complete opposite to that of Aditya's is quite nice!

wellsaid👏tp ji but you are wasting your time here 😂😂😂
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Posted: 3 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Pearl21

wellsaid👏tp ji but you are wasting your time here 😂😂😂


Oh, it's OK. It's not like time was being spent usefully at other times when I was not explaining Aditya's arc and replying to something else on the forum 😜


Happy to have any duscussion as long as it is respectful and doesn't turn into fighting, like it does on twitter!

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Posted: 3 years ago
#44

I have no problem please continue wasting of time main ne kise aur wajeh SE bola ha anyway 😂

Aditya character ko bohat achay se describe kea ha 😎

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Posted: 3 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: timepassing


His character development was within the scope of how the story is written! The interpretation of his character is from the assumption that the situations in the story are what happened in real, not something that can be changed. So if the story had been written to where he revealed the truth to Malini of the forced wedding, and Mlaini has either chosen to not marry him or have him divorce Imlie or complain to the police about the practice of forced weddings in Pag Dandia, the serial would have finished in the first 50 episodes! Would his use of words pf apni jagah and aukaat been less wrong if Imlie's character had been 22 instead of 18, a college going kid whose dream was to pursue a PG degree or some other competitive exam? If we argue that the character should have been written differently, I can point that out for almost every character in the serial. Satyakam who is supposedly this revolutionary rebel leader who fights for justice for the villagers supposedly would not have let this happen if he had been there when the wedding happened. Shouldn't the doting father have come after his teenaged daughter who was forcefully married off to a visiting journalist? And what's more, knowing that the wedding was forced upon both of them, and knowing he had another family, though it justified to come and act as a vigilante because at some point, a lady whom he loves/loved was cheated by an urban babu, and hence all urban babus are bad! So there are many probelms with the general characterization and the story itself. And the interpretations we make for the characters are within the confines of how they have been written.

It's not like the character could have gone off to do the right thing by himself, if the story demanded something else of him entirely. Here's where I guess the credit goes to the actor, in making an extremely problematic character like that of Aditya relatable and somewhat likeable. And believe me, the forum at one point used to be fun to come to, and not be this constant barrage of threads and people trying to virtue signal, because the old members were watching it for what it was, a fictional story, and not really looking to take any inspiration or life lessons out of it. So we have been as critical of Aditya as a character as we have liked him, according to how the story was progressing!


In that vein, I find ASR's characteristic as a boss also extremely problematic. But it's drama and hence meant to be OTT, and beyond the problematic storyline, his characterization, as a complete opposite to that of Aditya's is quite nice!

We’ll said Tpji ❤️❤️❤️❤️ . Especially the forum used to be fun .🥰 🤗

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Posted: 3 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: zubaidah

We’ll said Tpji ❤️❤️❤️❤️ . Especially the forum used to be fun .🥰 🤗

kea din thay woh bhi 😎
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Posted: 3 years ago
#47

People have already decided in their heads that AKT is bad. With that thought, if they watch the previous episode they will see him as villain only. How much ever long essays we write, people will be only at that point just like how Imlie was eating Adi’s head by saying Malini didi

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Posted: 3 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Pearl21

kea din thay woh bhi 😎

Yea , once a upon time ago 😉. One big happy family .

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Posted: 3 years ago
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First of all, there is absolutely nothing I have to say about GM, except that he has carried AKT perfectly, no matter what episode one watches.

Second, Imlie is a tale being told. A story which has people invested in it. Obviously people are going to draw lessons from it. Would try to find a moral from it.

I do not mean to offend you at all when I say this, but even the worst characters can inspire you. I am going to ask you something, wasn't there even one moment when you felt proud of Imlie in the show? When she won the debate competition? When she tried to fight for Aditya, regardless of how everyone was against her? Honestly, I watched around, trying to see these charcters as they were and you know what, Imlie inspired me when she fought for Aditya post Malini's betrayal. I am a person who considers consent very highly, and Imlie inspired me when she fought for the belief that men too have the right to consent.

How can anyone not try to find something to connect to the character?

I watched the show after ASR, I agree.

I drew inspiration from his words, I agree.

But the reason I stayed was because I saw how hard Imlie fought for Aditya in that court case, because, get this, that was something that was meant to inspire, and it did. To me. No doubt ASR is the reason I still watch the show, but I connect with Imlie. Most of the people here know this, but I came to the forum writing fanfiction, but entered the discussion defending Imlie.

Third, Satyakaam was not the male lead of the show. Aditya was. Obviously I expect him to do more for the female lead.

Fourth, Mixed Signals from Imlie you say, what about Aditya? First he lashes out at her. Then he defends her. Then he leaves her at her village. Then he saves her life. Then he brings her back. Then he falls in love, all the while being married to another. Mixed signals were not one sided.

Fifth, Aditya became unlikeable later? Did you like him lashing out at Imlie all the time? Did you like him when he was falling in love with someone while he was married, the one marriage he thought of as real and legal?


All things apart, the one thing that really irked me was that you said that you did not draw inspiration from the character because he was a figment of someone else's imagination.

How could you not?

How is an imaginary character from an imaginary tale not meant to inspire you?

Why would you even listen to the tale then?

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Posted: 3 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Do people realise that being 'flawed' is neither an excuse nor an absolvement to be abusive? All of us are flawed— we aren't God after all. Most of us still, sonehow, manage to not commit crimes— like bigamy, obstruction of justice, labour exploitation etc etc etc.

When was Aditya written in such a way that he was worthy of Imlie. Most of things enlisted above happened months before the advent of Aryan. This was the same guy who instructed an 18 y/o employee to not forget her "jagah" within first 20 episodes of the show. This was the same guy who said things like "tumhari himmat kaise hui? [...] Kya socha tha, munh mangi keemat de denge?" when Imlie tried to assert her wifely rights 270+ episodes prior to Aryan's advent. Could he not council Imlie into breaking her socialisation that ratified the coerced wedding? She was the traumatised teenaged highschooler, he the award-winning journalist, after all, albeit traumatised himself.

Yet he chose to obfuscate the truth to Malini on his own volition. He chose to not spare a thought to Imlie when this misguided teenager, he'd just met weeks earlier, told him to get married to Malini without nullifying his marriage to her

Then he continued to be nasty towards her as a trauma response—because she reminded him of the truth that his spineless ass had used a highschooler's idealistic drivel as an easy cope-out?

Sorry but the perpetuation of the cycle of abuse makes you an abuser as well. A person csn be a survivor and an abuser in different contexts.

Then he became a hero when he realised that he loved Imlie?

When had he ever considered anyboby else's feelings, trauma, consequences? Dil behlane ko Ghalib yeh khayal accha hai ki Aditya was rendered completely unsuitable for Imlie to highlight Aryan's suitability. If anything, Aryan has been written as a complete antithesis of what Aditya had been from Day 1.

Which is to say, Aditya Kumar Tripathi comes across as a raging naricissist in the posts above mine.

To say that Gashmeer's acting or his chemistry with Sumbul made the Adilie equation palatable is to Ralph's superlative acting turned Voldemort into Mother Teresa.

People can love a shitty character for the crafty way it's written or enacted without resorting to literary and mental gymnastics to excuse their shittiness. Aditya loses out even on that front.

@Bold: Thanks for this.

I also do not understand how he became a hero after he realised that he loved Imlie.

You are absolutely awesome for all of what you've written, but this one line has baffled me.

How is him realising that he loves Imlie makes him a hero?

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