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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: ramusk

Eavesdropping here for the first time ...


Why is no one talking about Maan singh khurana just because it's not forced marriage in that soap....



Asad too was purely toxic for me


Hey there! So there was a thread where I wrote about Arnav and Aryan because someone on my Tumblr asked me to :) Hence we're talking about Arnav and Aryan.


Also because they are both excellent characters with characters arcs and graph and traumas that shape a bit of who they are.


So Maan is pretty far from this category. But to think of him, I do think he and Aryan vibe in terms of their personalities and tough love tendencies.


Asad... sigh let's not even start.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Deltablues

I have general problems with how rap was b-stardized in Gully Boy. How it was turned into a neolibral shtick to get out of the ghettoized space instead of being a genre of protest, which it is.

Like, yes, money and materialism are important motifs in rap because those are the things systematically denied to gentrified and marginalised black communities in the west and minority communities in India. It's not a supposed message to outgrow the ghettoisation but to dismantle the system.

Like, Kalki's character saying that Murad's socioeconomic background doesn't matter because he is an a r t i s t. Behen, artist kya aliens hote hain? You wouldn't fuccck him if he weren't an artist but now his gareebi is cool because he can rap? Wtf does that mean?

Also, like, not a word on the caste-divides within Dharavi. Interesting.

Sorry, I hate that film.

Also like Ranveer Singh rapping about undue wealth accumulation. 😳


there should be an exclamation emoji because THIS, THIS, THIS!

I certainly felt Zoya should've stuck to the economic class she understands well.

This was a look at poverty from a rich, privileged, educated eye.

You know the issues but don't understand them.


"Gareebi is cool because he can rap" Omg exactly.


It's not a supposed message to outgrow the ghettoisation but to dismantle the system. Lol you should publish an article on how problematic this film is because that's the finest way I've seen someone put it.


"Artists aliens hote hai kya?" hahahahahahahahahah.


Irony is the way of life, aur kya?

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Posted: 4 years ago

Quite coincidental that I find myself in this discussion again cuz just today I came across an atrocious promo which reminded me of the brownfacing. Some new show coming up on Star called Jhuki si nazar..something like that. I did a double take. Sh*t..that is serious level of brown facing/ black facing going on..Crazy thing is they are showing how a duskier/ darker colored girl faces discrimination! And then turn around..find a lighter complexioned girl, cast her, colour her and call it a day! How is that even acceptable..


@Blue..about Mary Kom. I will be honest, I didn't notice the prosthetic eyelids on Priyanka. I didn't even think of why she was cast..until much much later. She did a good job there. I was satisfied. Left it at that.

Close resemblance to the person on whom the biopic is based on does help the audience to connect more. But then , you go ahead and make a khichdi out of things ...you have lost the plot. Take the case of 83. Ranveer looked and played his part. The script had serious issues, though.

So why did I point out Jhulan trailer? Unlike Mary Kom, one could easily pick out from the trailer itself that they went horribly wrong..I am not a Bengali nor am I a native Hindi speaker and yet I picked up the jarring accent. Sometimes, acting does mask some flaws..but just to a limit.

When doing a biopic, isn't the personality in question paid handsomely? And don't they have a say too in the final product? The OG cricketers in 83 are laughing all the way to the bank. I wonder how it is with the OTT platform.

As far as sports biopic go, BMG would be my favorite too. It had music, the good old vibes and capable actors too. Dhoni was too drawn out and tried to include many things

As far as sports movies go, nothing..I mean nothing can beat Chak De. I remember bursting out in tears when I saw it the first time at the theater. His sattar minute speech ❤️ Plus I love SRK..😆

OMG..Iqbal was soo good. Loved the lil sis in that. Too bad it didn't get as much appreciation as it should have. The Lagaan craze hadn't died down even by then, if I am not mistaken. Plus that was a low budget movie. Kinda got lost.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: IPodcastKKND


there should be an exclamation emoji because THIS, THIS, THIS!

I certainly felt Zoya should've stuck to the economic class she understands well.

This was a look at poverty from a rich, privileged, educated eye.

You know the issues but don't understand them.


"Gareebi is cool because he can rap" Omg exactly.


It's not a supposed message to outgrow the ghettoisation but to dismantle the system. Lol you should publish an article on how problematic this film is because that's the finest way I've seen someone put it.


"Artists aliens hote hai kya?" hahahahahahahahahah.


Irony is the way of life, aur kya?

Emboldened: Right? And, they could have read one (1) book about how hip-hop developed in the underbelly of civil rights movement in America. And one (1) book on how its been used by marginalised communities in India but no. We will shove Ranveer Singh with ten pounds of bobbi brown bronzer down your throat.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: _AmyChoco_

Quite coincidental that I find myself in this discussion again cuz just today I came across an atrocious promo which reminded me of the brownfacing. Some new show coming up on Star called Jhuki si nazar..something like that. I did a double take. Sh*t..that is serious level of brown facing/ black facing going on..Crazy thing is they are showing how a duskier/ darker colored girl faces discrimination! And then turn around..find a lighter complexioned girl, cast her, colour her and call it a day! How is that even acceptable..


@Blue..about Mary Kom. I will be honest, I didn't notice the prosthetic eyelids on Priyanka. I didn't even think of why she was cast..until much much later. She did a good job there. I was satisfied. Left it at that.

Close resemblance to the person on whom the biopic is based on does help the audience to connect more. But then , you go ahead and make a khichdi out of things ...you have lost the plot. Take the case of 83. Ranveer looked and played his part. The script had serious issues, though.

So why did I point out Jhulan trailer? Unlike Mary Kom, one could easily pick out from the trailer itself that they went horribly wrong..I am not a Bengali nor am I a native Hindi speaker and yet I picked up the jarring accent. Sometimes, acting does mask some flaws..but just to a limit.

When doing a biopic, isn't the personality in question paid handsomely? And don't they have a say too in the final product? The OG cricketers in 83 are laughing all the way to the bank. I wonder how it is with the OTT platform.

As far as sports biopic go, BMG would be my favorite too. It had music, the good old vibes and capable actors too. Dhoni was too drawn out and tried to include many things

As far as sports movies go, nothing..I mean nothing can beat Chak De. I remember bursting out in tears when I saw it the first time at the theater. His sattar minute speech ❤️ Plus I love SRK..😆

OMG..Iqbal was soo good. Loved the lil sis in that. Too bad it didn't get as much appreciation as it should have. The Lagaan craze hadn't died down even by then, if I am not mistaken. Plus that was a low budget movie. Kinda got lost.


The fact that she wants someone to love her despite her looks or for whom looks doesn't matter DOES THE OPPOSITE of what the show intends.


Dark skin isn't something to be liked despite - it's to be loved for it. The delicious hues of skin colors! Also like literally no kajal, bright clothes or fun hair for her?


Lol I just imagined everyone walking to the bank! I doubt the people themselves have an issue when paid handsomely and gets the the media coverage. It's nice to hear their story on the big screen I guess.


I cried at the last MAULA MERE LELE MERI JAAN! That's a cult film. Iqbal had an amazing soundtrack.


Lagaan is... well overrated *ducks from any flying chappals*

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: IPodcastKKND


The fact that she wants someone to love her despite her looks or for whom looks doesn't matter DOES THE OPPOSITE of what the show intends.


Dark skin isn't something to be liked despite - it's to be loved for it. The delicious hues of skin colors! Also like literally no kajal, bright clothes or fun hair for her?


Lol I just imagined everyone walking to the bank! I doubt the people themselves have an issue when paid handsomely and gets the the media coverage. It's nice to hear their story on the big screen I guess.


I cried at the last MAULA MERE LELE MERI JAAN! That's a cult film. Iqbal had an amazing soundtrack.


Lagaan is All Amir Khan films are... well overrated *ducks from any flying chappals*

There. I corrected it for you.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: IPodcastKKND


Hey!


Ok quick IPK rundown -


Arnav is an antihero because he had several traits that define him as an antihero; complex character, cynical, defy laws and standard morals, good intentions, identifiable imperfections, realist, internal struggle.


He's called an antihero because he is the protagonist of a story, but he lacks the virtues and estimable traits of a traditional hero.


Arnav and Khushi meet under horrible circumstances - he thought she was a corporate spy/stalker (because she literally appeared everywhere he was) and she thought he was an immoral atheist who'd go to any extent for his ego.


They were both immediately right and wrong about each other (Arnav is an atheist with a big ego and Khushi did appear everywhere Arnav was) and it's this miscommunication that sets the tone of the relationship and the love the blossoms despite of it.


The reason why IPK was acceptable and not difficult to digest is that they never said it was going to be a perfect love story, there was always an element of tragedy and star crossed love and Arnav's reasonings made sense. Even in the worst scenes you were convinced that that's how Arnav would react. As they say first impression is the last impression - the disastrous first impressions left a lasting impact on what he assumed she was.


Also Arnav has a lot of trauma from his childhood with regards to relationships, commitment, marriage and longevity of relationships. His parents committed double suicide when his mother found out about his father's extra marital affair and Arnav watched them die. His PTSD was handled well - he has nightmares even after Khushi entered his life.


Arnav and Khushi's first marriage was a tragedy - great angst tbh, and yes since then the writing quality saw a sharp drop, so did the plots, and the relationship was rather toxic until the remarriage phase - that was rather sweet. I attribute it to bad writing because a lot of plot points had no payoff and important side characters were written out.


The last two tracks were badly written so I don't consider it canon, lol, but yes they did end up in a happily ever after and for majority of the show - it was a good, angsty drama that was well done :)


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Back to Imlie -


Regarding Aryan I am very interested in him and voicing my displeasure about his current actions because I didn't think he was capable of doing something like this. He's rarely compulsive and more in control of his emotions and situations. So it's shocking that this track came in. The forced marriage itself looks a little forced - lol.


Also the stakes on Imlie aren't working. It's her ex husband's career and sanity of her sasuraal and I'm like eeeehhhh...


Overall I feel this track isn't working as well as it should've. I loved Aryan losing his control post hospitalization and beating up Aditya because I did feel Aryan bottled his anger and vengeance against Adi and this is the first time we saw his emotions and motivations on a center stage.


We saw Aryan's flaws and that was great. But all of this leading a religiously valid marriage after he traded with Imlie that it wasn't going to be one isn't adding up at all.


I feel I'm missing something when I see the current track cause I like him otherwise. And to be honest I do feel him not wanting to loose Imlie is more than his altruistic motivation of giving her a better life. I think he believes he can give her best opportunities.


His tough love to help Imlie worked in the earlier part of the relationship, cause there was no trust and they were clashing in ideals and this was the easiest way to get through to Imlie. However, in the current circumstances Imlie was at the point where she'd do anything for Aryan regardless, the trust, compassion and flicker of love (from her side, Aryan toh bohot pehle se out ho gaya tha 🤣) is not the space that justifies this forced marriage.


My high point of the show was Imlie crying in happiness on seeing him recover and then squeeze his cheek and Aryan hiding the payal saying he wears it *lol*

Sorry to ghusau here uninvited :(

Can I say I'm in love with your words?😆❤️

You have a damn engaging of listing your points. I'm enthralled :') 😳

And I do agree with all the points above. No idea about IPKKND though.

It's just that the treating doctor at the hospital made a grave error, and gave Aru medicines for personality disorder instead internal injuries 🤔 So he is behaving like an idiot with a savior complex. I'm hoping he dhakka maros this stupid twin of his and takes his place :) Soo long. Sigh

Edited by missFiesty_69 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Speaking of other toxic heros ...I mean from other shows I absolutely loathed shaurya of shaurya aur anokhi ki kahani... I mean his intro promo itself was a big no no ...thank God I was never invested in that

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: ramusk

Speaking of other toxic heros ...I mean from other shows I absolutely loathed shaurya of shaurya aur anokhi ki kahani... I mean his intro promo itself was a big no no ...thank God I was never invested in that


Oh my God yes. He was extremely problematic - I don't have enough words for that at all.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

Sorry to ghusau here uninvited :(

Can I say I'm in love with your words?😆❤️

You have a damn engaging of listing your points. I'm enthralled :') 😳

And I do agree with all the points above. No idea about IPKKND though.

It's just that the treating doctor at the hospital made a grave error, and gave Aru medicines for personality disorder instead internal injuries 🤔 So he is behaving like an idiot with a savior complex. I'm hoping he dhakka maros this stupid twin of his and takes his place :) Soo long. Sigh


Arrey this is a chat club :) Thank you so much - you're very very kind <3 ☺️IPK's a ten years old show - it was launched in 2011.


I cannot wait to get our own Aryan back for Imlie. Yeh teda media moments are confusing me big time.

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