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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: fria319

Love all the points you brought up. It was what I wanted to say but couldn’t explain enough. His choices put him in that bed scenario. He did not maintain enough distance from her and chose to drink. And whether that drink was spiked or he just got drunk fact is that he put himself in that room. And he chose to stay. He chose to sit that close. There were like 5 other places to sit. He chose to blow into her wound. What, is she a kid ? He chose to lock eyes with her. Wtf was that. He chose to forget about calling Pallavi. I get no network but they didn’t have a landline? He chose to drink.

All of that is leaning towards a form of emotional infidelity. Idk if I can personally call him a cheater outright. But if my husband did that with an ex, it would feel like a betrayal of trust. In a marriage you should do everything to safeguard your relationship. You don’t put yourself in situations where there could even be the possibility of a misunderstanding. What married man is comfortable staying in a hotel room with his ex ? I don’t care about how much he personally thinks nothing is going to happen. He knew then that his ex still had feelings for him yet no distance. SMH. I’m thoroughly disappointed in him.


Pallavi did things many of us also didn’t like, but none of it was a betrayal of trust and that’s why this is so difficult to watch.

Same feelings!!!

Raghav’s love & loyalty to Pallavi comes to play not when he chooses Pallavi over Esha when he hates Esha, but when he does it after knowing the truth behind the breakup….the moment of weakness he displayed towards Esha after he got to know the truth proves his conflicting emotions, coz of which he not only crossed the line but also somewhere he led Esha too…and this is emotional infidelity towards Pallavi..there is no other way to look at it.. I am not even going to the physical aspects… the fact that he for few moments prioritized his feelings for his first love over his love for Pallavi adulterated the sanctity of the relationship.. so he is not the same Raghav for whom emotional fidelity matters the most…

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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: fria319



I get giving her the room and bringing her to it. But was there no hotel lobby? Could he not have given her the room and just went there ? Did he have to drink with her in that same room too? Did he have to sit on the same bed when there was a couch, and two chairs?


It’s not outright cheating, that’s why I said I can’t call him a cheater. But it still feels like a betrayal of trust and that’s what I can’t vibe with.


Fria let's say he comes clean to Pallavi tomorrow and all of this was Esha's doing, the drugging n stuff, will you be ok to let it slide and what should Pallavi do given we know her character.


Parul, Any, same question to you both too.


I'm still on the fence here coz I'd give more weightage to his intentions and if he came clean and nothing happened, I can let it slide after he obviously repents n begs. If he doesn't say the truth, the groveling and begging needs to be a lot more.


I'm worried it can be a deal breaker for Raghvi. How could this idiot spoil something so beautiful. Is there a way sicku can salvage our beautiful couple or I have to assume the show ended on the date night?

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Posted: 4 years ago
#53

I mean if they wanted to take the Esha trapping Raghav route, there was no need of making Raghav have moments of weakness towards his ex. He could still help her, still be in the same room, still talk to her but behave like a married man who has no place for his ex now. But no, for some weird reason they had to damage the integrity of Raghav’s character. 🔪🔪 plus all the lying.

And if this is not addressed later, I don’t see why it was even done in first place. Pallavi better walk out on him or give him a good cold shoulder only for this fact alone, even after Esha’s truth is out 😐😐.


way to go writers, way to go! You never disappoint me. I am so proud.


Do they even realise what damage infidelity can cause!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Inese_20

I mean if they wanted to take the Esha trapping Raghav route, there was no need of making Raghav have moments of weakness towards his ex. He could still help her, still be in the same room, still talk to her but behave like a married man who has no place for his ex now. But no, for some weird reason they had to damage the integrity of Raghav’s character. 🔪🔪 plus all the lying.

And if this is not addressed later, I don’t see why it was even done in first place. Pallavi better walk out on him or give him a good cold shoulder only for this fact alone, even after Esha’s truth is out 😐😐.


way to go writers, way to go! You never disappoint me. I am so proud.


Do they even realise what damage infidelity can cause!


Parul don't they realise how badly they butchered a character we loved so much. Apne creation pe zara bhi lagaw nai hai inko.


I think they don't think itna deeply if u ask me. They will show Raghav was drugged uski koi galti nai thi. Bas.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: joliefemme


Fria let's say he comes clean to Pallavi tomorrow and all of this was Esha's doing, the drugging n stuff, will you be ok to let it slide and what should Pallavi do given we know her character.


Parul, Any, same question to you both too.


I'm still on the fence here coz I'd give more weightage to his intentions and if he came clean and nothing happened, I can let it slide after he obviously repents n begs. If he doesn't say the truth, the groveling and begging needs to be a lot more.


I'm worried it can be a deal breaker for Raghvi. How could this idiot spoil something so beautiful. Is there a way sicku can salvage our beautiful couple or I have to assume the show ended on the date night?


Tbh, if he apologises, comes clean and clarifies that it was not his intention and it won’t happen ever again, I can let it slide. But he will have to offer a good enough of apology and be very honest to her whenever he does that.


But my point is, Ren, do you think they will even address it? They will just throw it all on Esha playing dirty games and Raghav ki koi galti nhi thi. I am so sure this is going to happen. Pallavi is probably never going to know that he slipped there for a moment. And he’s never going to tell her. That makes me more mad.

And aisa hi hoga. I trust these writers enough. Do they even realise that they made Raghav look like a cheater?


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: joliefemme


Parul don't they realise how badly they butchered a character we loved so much. Apne creation pe zara bhi lagaw nai hai inko.


I think they don't think itna deeply if u ask me. They will show Raghav was drugged uski koi galti nai thi. Bas.


Exactly, they will do that! How do I move on from this? How do I still ship RaghVi the way I have done till now?


Ren, please go through this twitter thread and tell me how do I unsee this?🥺


https://twitter.com/i_aks_/status/1447755255052079107?s=21


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Posted: 4 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: Inese_20


Tbh, if he apologises, comes clean and clarifies that it was not his intention and it won’t happen ever again, I can let it slide. But he will have to offer a good enough of apology and be very honest to her whenever he does that. I'm with you on this. This relationship and love is too good to let it go.


But my point is, Ren, do you think they will even address it? They will just throw it all on Esha playing dirty games and Raghav ki koi galti nhi thi. I am so sure this is going to happen. Pallavi is probably never going to know that he slipped there for a moment. And he’s never going to tell her. That makes me more mad. It's all going to be shown as Esha ka fault. Tbh I'm still on the fence as to how much I will blame R here. He did a lot of things he should not have done, no sane person would do but I can still let it slide. Cvs aren't going to show R at fault but it's only us sane viewers jinka viewing experience they've spoilt by butchering his character. They let it go right to the extreme. Ab it all depends on the threshold of the viewer. I should have left watching while I had the chance. Now it's too late.

And aisa hi hoga. I trust these writers enough. Do they even realise that they made Raghav look like a cheater?



@bold, I wrote tbs same thing in post above yours. The writers are only thinking of them superficially warna itna lame tracks nai daalte. We are invested way too much and the makers dont care..I would have prefered them shutting the show down rather than spoiling it. Let's see kitna salvage kar sakte hai.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: Ruhi.007


naked Pallavi next to naked Mandar…will we be then talking about intent, deed done or not, who drugged who or will we be questioning her actions???


Of course not, if a naked pallavi wakes up beside mandar we would call it a rape and would ask mandar to be killed. I don't think there would be this much discussion about whether pallavi was drunk or not drunk.

Have not seen many posts where this is termed as a rape/assault except for 1-2 posts by a single user. After all the scene has not been aired yet. If Raghav was drugged and they have slept together implies it should be called a sexual assault. Is raghav not getting victim shamed for being alone with his ex in a room or for getting drunk. I do not want to be an MRA or even defend Raghav's actions. I would be ok with raghav or pallavi getting bashed. My problem is with the conclusions drawn from the bashing. Just don't think that the woman hate woman narrative is relevant in this situation - atleast in the forum responses here. I could guess and list down many reasons for people disliking Pallavi and I don't think most of them have anything to do with her gender.

Imo the contrived scenes of desi tv and fans' reactions to these should not be used for gender studies or for drawing any conclusions about feminism. Especially with scenes like one lead is blackmailing to marry a person and another is hitting the former with a stick. But to each his own 🤷

@bold: how is Raghav a victim here when he himself chose to share the room and get drunk with his Ex in such a vulnerable state…

It’s not about woman hate woman nor feminism but in general Pallavi gets called out for the most trivial to unreasonable things while Raghav’s behavior gets brushed aside as his flawed personality trait…neither she has declared sainthood nor it is mandatory that a don should not work on his bad behavior…and we like it or not most people who bash Pallavi are women and most people who defend Raghav are also women…just stating a fact…

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Inese_20


Exactly, they will do that! How do I move on from this? How do I still ship RaghVi the way I have done till now?


Ren, please go through this twitter thread and tell me how do I unsee this?🥺


https://twitter.com/i_aks_/status/1447755255052079107?s=21



I read this post and honestly I've not yet seen the episode but I really want to give Raghav benefit.of the doubt just coz of his intentions and love towards Pals.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu1975

@bold: how is Raghav a victim here when he himself chose to share the room and get drunk with his Ex in such a vulnerable state…

It’s not about woman hate woman nor feminism but in general Pallavi gets called out for the most trivial to unreasonable things while Raghav’s behavior gets brushed aside as his flawed personality trait…neither she has declared sainthood nor it is mandatory that a don should not work on his bad behavior…and we like it or not most people who bash Pallavi are women and most people who defend Raghav are also women…just stating a fact…


Just because he shares a room and drink with his ex doesn't make it any less of a crime if Esha drugs him. Agar consent nai hai (irrespective of gender), it's an assault. Even if raghav sleeps next to Esha nothing gives hee the right to violate him. Genders reverse karo and it is problematic.


You can hold Raghav accountable for every thing stupid he's done but only till he's drugged. You may call him a cheater and I will give him a lee way, it's all upto perspectives. Murky territory hai.

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