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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: joliefemme


Vaishali I totally agree with your points but in the current circumstances, there should have been no risk to life. It should have been a clear case of him being arrested and tried for the crime. Raghav would have been able to cheat the system to get him out. It's not that hard to drag police cases for years and considering the resources Raghav has, it is not difficult.


But now a life is gone, ACP is to be majorly blamed coz this shouldn't have been the outcome under any circumstance but I can't absolve Raghav completely.

I know Ren.. that's why I said that in this particular case ACP is to be blamed and she will face consequences of her actions..

@bold - but this is sounding so wrong. Even if not encountered, getting arrested for smuggling, having to face a court trial..his track record would've gotten tainted forever..Imagine the mental state of the family..Right now they think he was probably caught in a cross fire or wrongfully trapped.. because Abhishek could do nothing wrong.. But had he gotten arrested, imagine having to live with the fact that their son was a smuggler? And Raghav saving him would've encouraged him to keep risking his life again and again in the hope that everytime he gets into trouble he will be saved.. this is not ''clear case'' ..It is definitely a better scenario thaN an encounter but this path he had chosen was not right..period. It would've gotten him into trouble sooner or later..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: SONIA441

Just Watched the Episode & had just gone through the written updates in the morning. Thanks Jolie for bringing up the exact points I would like to explain. Please read patiently as I think I have tried too delve a little deeper than what I saw on IF & Insta too.


If I am pissed off at anyone after watching the Episode - I'm sorry to say it is one & only ACP Laxmi Singh.


In her quest to prove herself & pin Raghav Rao - the mighty Don of Hyderabad, she didn't think clearly & shot a guy down without any proofs.

NTM, You do not shoot a person in the upper torso for a customs evasion. Like seriously, what was the Officer even thinking - You shoot in the Leg to stop a person - He wasn't a hardened criminal committing Contract-based Murders/a Terrorist. What Raghav told when talking to Farhad was absolutely right - 'Uss ACP ko chhodega nahi Main" - Being an honest Police Officer doesn't absolve you of the stupidity you display in a field duty....I hope Raghav is actually able to transfer her soon so she has her head at the right place atleast later in her life.


Now coming to why I think Raghav is not at Fault here at all - Nope, not for even 1%(I know I'm saying a lot here by the multiple discussions ongoing on IF Today everywhere).


We keep saying his job is Risky & he hires Young Boys to do his dirty work. What Dirty Work?

It's not like he's telling them to clean-up after he's murdering people.

It's a simple Customs-Tax evasion which is done in all fields of Business & not just jewelry/diamonds one. A Customs-Tax evasion never & I repeat, never involves a shoot at sight order. You jail people, you interrogate them but you don't shoot. Finding a leeway to save taxes is as different as chalk & cheese than stating that it's downright dirty work.


I don't believe that stealing a document & murdering people can be equated as the same kind of crime even if the law states otherwise in certain states. Nope, there's a big difference & thankfully, our country also agrees to that in comparison to other nations of the world(read the ones that consider themselves worthy of the title of Developed Nations).


Perhaps for all we know, Raghav is also paying homage to the work he had to do when he had was 17 & away from his family by being the same person who helped him in his times of need & desperation by helping these young adults who need money desperately to help their families. Raghav wouldn't have taken a life-threatening job then too as he knew that he's the only one around for his Amma & Lil Sister Keerthi then & did this job because at maximum he would be jailed but the money & knowledge he gains on the Field will help him setup his own business someday.


Also as the ACP Stated, "Hyderabad mein Diamond Smuggling boom par hai" - that means the networking had expanded so much for all jewellers that it's easy to get newcomers into this field otherwise how else can we explain that Nikhil also immediately got a consignment when he needed one. The Racquet that enlists these young folks has become a little loose rather than being a tight-knit one which is needed in these processes. So how would Raghav (who as stated by the other Police Officer is actually hidden in so many layers) be aware of what's exactly happening on the ground level. And even then he clearly states yet again to make sure all the Boys are lying low. And from what we know of him about how losses of life affects him, I'm actually really thankful that he was stable after hearing about Abhishek's death and not absorbed in guilt completely as he would have been before his Family came around to him. It has helped him become stronger mentally. He knew he wasn't at much fault here and looked at the next steps to do rather than having an anxiety attack.


Needless to say the Promo is ofcourse stating that Raghav'll have a pretty bad Panic Attack soon cos I'm sure Amma & Pallavi both'll make him feel guilty again. At first it might look like the ACP is just being an honest person but if we look at the holistic view, her one action will have drastic effects not on one but many families behind and that's why laws exist for Officers too which she didn't adhere to here.


Then comes the Den Part - where Abhishek seemed more eager about his job - He said - "Aapki Job ke liye Jaan bhi dedunga" - and Raghav shut him up - "That NO, Your life is more important than any diamonds. Throw it Away for all I care, but don't get Jailed" . That's the line Farhad & He always thought off...Lying low means not getting jailed and not to safeguard themselves against a Random Shooting (ofcourse CVs could anytime introduce a new track stating that it had happened before as well & thus this line might get invalid then)🤗


These Young Folks know what they're getting into is a little Grey not Black as it got tainted due to the ACP's foolhardy actions Today.

They're trying to get these jobs due to the needs of their families & whatever it may be - that their lives aren't at risk. They know probably without them, there family has no other hopes of more financial stability. Their Reputation might be at risk but not their lives at all. Was Abhishek's reason a financial woe on his Family or just to impress his GirlFriend with what was his last call now - might also bring some questions on why he might be doing this. And when I say about life everywhere here - it means a comparison between - Life & Death kinda situation - not a life filled with or without materialistic pleasures at all.



These're just my views from what I understood today!! Wanted to share this across🤗


Thanks for the tag. I had share a similar view on someone else's post analysing Raghav's behaviour after the yesterday's episode.


As a teen who has witnessed death, been held responsible for it, rejected by mom & sister, without any emotional anchor, nor having got any emotional healing is bound to have a ruthless edge to his personality. On top of it the fear of getting alienated by loved one is a constant in his life. Raghav did adopt whatever ways they are to get materialistically successful. Those ideologies will now be challenged by Pallavi. Why should they be in opposition to each other? Can't the path be adopted to understand perspectives & build an even stronger relationship? Raghav reforming etc is not going to cut ice with me. As far as his way of doing business is concerned no one died till now, that also due to the cop who made a rash decision. He hid things from Pallavi which also stems from the fact of his fear of getting judged by her & then resorting to leave him.


After seeing today's episode Raghav is already coming across as feeling very guilty. The makers seem to show him as man who has sinned hence needing some form of repentance. Mixed signals, need to wait & see where this is headed.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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This is such a lovely thread. Been a while since I've seen such a discussion and carried out so civilly. Thanks for the tag@SRKian and thank you for the thread @Viewpoint.(My tags abandoned me but hope you see it anyway)

The Krishna Rao and Raghav parallel is so interesting.

Krishna Rao used a 17 year old minor and Raghav is using legal adults but also barely legal adults. The difference between a 17 year old and a 20 year old does exist but it isn't too much.

Krishna Rao also had no idea that a mob would attack Raghav's family and kill his father and brother just like how Raghav had no idea that his business could result in the death of Abhishek in an encounter.

Krishna Rao stole from innocent middle class citizens of the country and Raghav cheats the system. But isn't Raghav also robbing the taxpaying citizens of the country in his own way. By not giving money to the government he is withholding money that could be used for public good. Every middle class person who pays their taxes expects the rich to do the same too- pay their taxes and customs duties honestly. This is an ideal world. In the real world everyone tries to figure out ways to pay less. But does the fact that everyone is committing a crime make it ok to do so? And to which crimes would we apply these standards? I'm pretty sure several people do what Krishna Rao does as well. Does that make what he did to those people okay?

Abhishek and Raghav.

Raghav is a minor and Abhishek is not. But at the same time Abhishek is also quite young.

Abhishek and Raghav are both doing it for money. Raghav did it for his family and apparently Abhishek did it for greed. But isn't Raghav greedy too? He didn't just want to uplift his family from poverty, he wanted to give them a life of luxury and enjoy it himself. So I don't see how they are too different but maybe Abhishek could be a little more selfish than Raghav. Then again I doubt Abhishek sees what he is doing as robbing the citizens of the country but Raghav knew and felt like he was robbing people.


For the shooting no doubt I blame the ACP but had she arrested Abhishek and his family gone through hell due to that, who would I blame? Abhishek or Raghav? And if I blame them in this case who would I blame for what happened in the past? The way I see it is I blamed Krishna Rao and Raghav. Now I blame both Raghav and Abhishek. How much of the blame lies on one party and how much on the other.. That is something I am still unsure about.

Edited by hapc - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#54

Throwing my views in here too, 7 pages later, bc it's an interesting topic lol [I haven't read all the replies here]


Raghav is partly to blame because it's his diamonds. I don't think anyone is really denying that unless they're avid RR fans who can see him do no wrong.


The issue is the show is portraying it (based on today's episode so far) that it is all Raghav's fault - and that's a problem. It's not fully on him.


Abhishek although was young - he wasn't that young. He's Nikhil's friend, so he's at least early 20s? How much do you give leeway for being "young"? I, at 13 would've known that smuggling diamonds was risky (I wasn't rich/well-off), so how come an 18-21~ yr old wouldn't know the risk he's taking? The police catching him is always a risk. Raghav didn't manipulate the situation to employ Abhishek. Abhishek took the job willingly. He took a calculated risk for the money, and the risk just ended up being more than he bargained for.


Raghav's line of work involves force and some violence - if he wants to use it - but it's not like he's the real mafia. He's not really the type to have shoot outs every week and have issues with rival gangs. The diamond smuggling is not, in its nature, a violent crime. I don't think he's ever taken a life before, in fact, he's always avoided it. So no way is he that involved in a violent lifestyle that the idea of one of his men dying doing his work would've crossed his mind.


I don't think there's anyway Raghav could've / would've predicted it would end like this. He's been doing this for at least what, 8 years? 5? Farhad even explicitly said this has never happened before.


Raghav dabbles in evading the law, and anyone who works for him takes on that risk as well. Why not go work somewhere else? Who said the only way to make quick money is through illegal means? Abhishek needed the big bucks, so in essence, he had a streak of greed. This is what greed does.


The real person to blame though is the ACP. She used excessive force. She had no warrant, Abhishek had no weapon, there was no threat to her life, and they were in a very public place. On all accounts she's wrong - but the show isn't even really delving into this. Abhishek's mother blamed the guy who "brought Abhishek onto this path" yet not the police officer who shot to kill her unarmed son. If she wanted to shoot to immobilize, aiming for the leg was sufficient. She's not even showing remorse for killing a young adult... like? She's not righteous at all. How is she so ok with killing someone?


Her honesty about catching Raghav & his illegal ways- sure that's valid. She has the right to do her job. Fans always confuse reel with real so I just don't pay attention to it anymore. Those types of fans won't ever change.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I know Ren.. that's why I said that in this particular case ACP is to be blamed and she will face consequences of her actions..

@bold - but this is sounding so wrong. Even if not encountered, getting arrested for smuggling, having to face a court trial..his track record would've gotten tainted forever..Imagine the mental state of the family..Right now they think he was probably caught in a cross fire or wrongfully trapped.. because Abhishek could do nothing wrong.. But had he gotten arrested, imagine having to live with the fact that their son was a smuggler? And Raghav saving him would've encouraged him to keep risking his life again and again in the hope that everytime he gets into trouble he will be saved.. this is not ''clear case'' ..It is definitely a better scenario thaN an encounter but this path he had chosen was not right..period. It would've gotten him into trouble sooner or later..

in real world, abhishek was a mere diamond courier boy.. the ground level players. The cops actually get hold of people like him, get him arrested , fish out information about the smuggling either just by emotional manipulation or last resort force.. they get them to reveal all the details they know about the network, who he works for , how he operates, etc.. majority of them easily turn informers and are let off the hook.. the police keeps getting ready information from them to help them bust the smuggling racket in exchange of police protection and also have a clean record of no police history.. this also helps them reform for a mistake..

Its only people higher up the echelons like say farhad, harish who get punishment along with the ring leader.. at max, they get a lighter punishment if they also when caught help in significantly busting the racket but it is also people like farhad and harish only who are much more loyal and its very difficult to get information. In fact they agree to even serve the jail sentence rather than open up even if third degree torture is used!!

Ok.. just got carried away with real life..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: fria319

Throwing my views in here too, 7 pages later, bc it's an interesting topic lol [I haven't read all the replies here]


Raghav is partly to blame because it's his diamonds. I don't think anyone is really denying that unless they're avid RR fans who can see him do no wrong.


The issue is the show is portraying it (based on today's episode so far) that it is all Raghav's fault - and that's a problem. It's not fully on him.


Abhishek although was young - he wasn't that young. He's Nikhil's friend, so he's at least early 20s? How much do you give leeway for being "young"? I, at 13 would've known that smuggling diamonds was risky (I wasn't rich/well-off), so how come an 18-21~ yr old wouldn't know the risk he's taking? The police catching him is always a risk. Raghav didn't manipulate the situation to employ Abhishek. Abhishek took the job willingly. He took a calculated risk for the money, and the risk just ended up being more than he bargained for.


Raghav's line of work involves force and some violence - if he wants to use it - but it's not like he's the real mafia. He's not really the type to have shoot outs every week and have issues with rival gangs. The diamond smuggling is not, in its nature, a violent crime. I don't think he's ever taken a life before, in fact, he's always avoided it. So no way is he that involved in a violent lifestyle that the idea of one of his men dying doing his work would've crossed his mind.


I don't think there's anyway Raghav could've / would've predicted it would end like this. He's been doing this for at least what, 8 years? 5? Farhad even explicitly said this has never happened before.


Raghav dabbles in evading the law, and anyone who works for him takes on that risk as well. Why not go work somewhere else? Who said the only way to make quick money is through illegal means? Abhishek needed the big bucks, so in essence, he had a streak of greed. This is what greed does.


The real person to blame though is the ACP. She used excessive force. She had no warrant, Abhishek had no weapon, there was no threat to her life, and they were in a very public place. On all accounts she's wrong - but the show isn't even really delving into this. Abhishek's mother blamed the guy who "brought Abhishek onto this path" yet not the police officer who shot to kill her unarmed son. If she wanted to shoot to immobilize, aiming for the leg was sufficient. She's not even showing remorse for killing a young adult... like? She's not righteous at all. How is she so ok with killing someone?


Her honesty about catching Raghav & his illegal ways- sure that's valid. She has the right to do her job. Fans always confuse reel with real so I just don't pay attention to it anymore. Those types of fans won't ever change.

Wahi to she is not even sure that abhishek was working for raghav or not but still she killed him. What if he was not a culprit phir kya? Aur tabh bhi why would she even kill a young guy for such trivial matter. I toh don't even know much about law but still know one thing that police never encounter somebody unless that person is of danger or without getting permission from high authority. She is not even guilty when she is supposed to be this righteous police officer. I really hope she gets some sort of punishment.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I know Ren.. that's why I said that in this particular case ACP is to be blamed and she will face consequences of her actions..

@bold - but this is sounding so wrong. Even if not encountered, getting arrested for smuggling, having to face a court trial..his track record would've gotten tainted forever..Imagine the mental state of the family..Right now they think he was probably caught in a cross fire or wrongfully trapped.. because Abhishek could do nothing wrong.. But had he gotten arrested, imagine having to live with the fact that their son was a smuggler? And Raghav saving him would've encouraged him to keep risking his life again and again in the hope that everytime he gets into trouble he will be saved.. this is not ''clear case'' ..It is definitely a better scenario thaN an encounter but this path he had chosen was not right..period. It would've gotten him into trouble sooner or later..


Vaishali by clear case I meant that the most likely scenario would have been an arrest. Despite an arrest (like in Nikhil case), Raghav would have managed to get him out. No doubt there will be a reputation risk etc but Abhishek knew what he was getting into. You don't get to enjoy the perks without having to suffer the pitfalls.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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First thing first, I am so sorry for replying this late

Well, completely completely agree with you

ACP didn't had not a pinch of proof if Abhishek was really working for Raghav or not...and this is not how you shoot a person on which you have doubts

I have zero knowledge about how police force works but by common sense it is known to everyone that if you want to stop someone you gotta shoot at legs

Legit Raghav needs to give it back to her for what she did. I won't say this was her presence of mind cuz probably they might be trained to shoot first on legs rather than on chest and he was not a wanted criminal or something like that.

Coming to Raghav involved in the tax evasion n stuff, well no business is as clear as water. There always lies mud beneath it which is known to the one who owns it


Rest all, I agree with you

Thanks for tagging Sonia ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: joliefemme


Vaishali by clear case I meant that the most likely scenario would have been an arrest. Despite an arrest (like in Nikhil case), Raghav would have managed to get him out. No doubt there will be a reputation risk etc but Abhishek knew what he was getting into. You don't get to enjoy the perks without having to suffer the pitfalls.

Abhishek was obviously at fault for choosing to do what he did..despite of warnings from Raghav. In yesterday's epi we saw how mother was getting hysterical which is what you'd expect.. her son died. He has a mother and a sister to care of and had he gotten arrested imagine their plight? Maybe Raghav would've managed to get him out ..maybe not because this new ACP seems like an honest,uncompromising one.. its not just his life he risked for some quick money...he put his entire family's life/reputation at risk too..

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