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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AvantikaP

Raghav is arrogant and protective about his family but I don't know why he is always asked to mend his ways. He is a proud man, he is proud of everything he has accomplished and why wouldn't he be, nobody gave him anything on a golden plate. He himself told Pallav's baba, he does his work quietly and works hard at what he does without putting a showcase for it. He admitted that by cheating and committing fraud, he wouldn't be where he is today. I don't see anything wrong in this.

Yes he was wrong when he tainted Pallavi's name without proper investigation. But he was enraged with what happened to his sister and mother. Pallavi also acted on impulse when it came down to her brother.


Pallavi ki family, family hai, Raghav ki family kiya kuch bhi nahi. Whatever Pallavi does for her family is justified but when it comes down to Raghav, everything he does is stupidity (according to his sister, amma, Pallavi etc...)

Even during the abortion fiasco, Pallavi was happily clearing her name but didn't care that Raghav's name was also being dragged into her family drama.

I am really tired of seeing his amma, sister, Pallavi putting Raghav down always. I don't see anyone ever (except Farhaad) consoling him.


Pallavi is so quick to judge him, so quick to forget the number of times Raghav has protected her, supported her and helped her. I don't expect this much stupidity from a FL. Out of everyone I expected Pallavi to understand Raghav somewhat better, atleast the way he was concerned about her on Holi and ensured she was dropped home, how he protected her from the goons and from Lion. Seriously.....


I like Raghav's character as he is upfront, and does not beat around the bush. He is walk the walk and talk the talk guy, who inspite off all the taunts he gets from his amma and sister still loves them to the bits.


Everyone sees Pallavi's sacrifice but Raghav also ended up marrying a girl he barely knew or loved.


Seriously I don't want to him to run behind Pallavi sab kuch bhol kei. All I want to see is mutual respect and understanding between the two which I think will happen in the last episode.

Bang on...agree with everything u said...

Is there any way we can forward this to the makers of the show or put it across to them...

I want them to read and act on it..I love the grey shaded don raghav who is different from other ML of ITV and if they turn him into saint because his wife cannot accept him otherwise..I prefer to quit watching the show...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thank you for reviving this thread and the tag...

Oh my I totally agree with you our stance never change..

The points you have raised, they are so balanced and neutral..

Yes we opted to watch this serial coz the imperfect characters, not a super FL and ML...

Raghav and Pall like you said are different individuals and they have different approach to their life...

They as a couple can cope up with relationships together and support and love each other.But they are their own self too which makes them unique and different.

Let those flaws, those differences come out in a natural manner . Let them fight their own battles though try to share everything with each other.

In a relationship one person cannot be right always. Situations differ, perception change let it show, lets not elevate one character while deflate the other.

I like the analogy of henpecked and doormat..👍

This track ending have once again given the opportunity to the makers, hope they do justice this time.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AvantikaP

Raghav is arrogant and protective about his family but I don't know why he is always asked to mend his ways. He is a proud man, he is proud of everything he has accomplished and why wouldn't he be, nobody gave him anything on a golden plate. He himself told Pallav's baba, he does his work quietly and works hard at what he does without putting a showcase for it. He admitted that by cheating and committing fraud, he wouldn't be where he is today. I don't see anything wrong in this.

Yes he was wrong when he tainted Pallavi's name without proper investigation. But he was enraged with what happened to his sister and mother. Pallavi also acted on impulse when it came down to her brother.


Pallavi ki family, family hai, Raghav ki family kiya kuch bhi nahi. Whatever Pallavi does for her family is justified but when it comes down to Raghav, everything he does is stupidity (according to his sister, amma, Pallavi etc...)

Even during the abortion fiasco, Pallavi was happily clearing her name but didn't care that Raghav's name was also being dragged into her family drama.

I am really tired of seeing his amma, sister, Pallavi putting Raghav down always. I don't see anyone ever (except Farhaad) consoling him.


Pallavi is so quick to judge him, so quick to forget the number of times Raghav has protected her, supported her and helped her. I don't expect this much stupidity from a FL. Out of everyone I expected Pallavi to understand Raghav somewhat better, atleast the way he was concerned about her on Holi and ensured she was dropped home, how he protected her from the goons and from Lion. Seriously.....


I like Raghav's character as he is upfront, and does not beat around the bush. He is walk the walk and talk the talk guy, who inspite off all the taunts he gets from his amma and sister still loves them to the bits.


Everyone sees Pallavi's sacrifice but Raghav also ended up marrying a girl he barely knew or loved.


Seriously I don't want to him to run behind Pallavi sab kuch bhol kei. All I want to see is mutual respect and understanding between the two which I think will happen in the last episode.

I just hope Pallavi sheds off her morally upright part of her character just because she realizes how precious love is , which is above morality.

She needs to realise what she stands to loose this time if stays firm towards morality.

Its natural for a wife to get upset if she comes to know about the smuggling business.

I just hope she doesnt act like typical FL this time and understands Raghav.

If they turn RR to a typical ML , I am really done . ITV is full of such MLs.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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He is a Gem, we need more characters like him who is confident and can be selfish, it is so much better than being hypocrite.


I want sweet moments between the leads but I just hope the writers don't slash Raghav's character beyond repairable. Raghav is what attracts me to the show, his attitude, his pride in himself and what he does, his care and concern, his agony for mothers love, his friendship with Farhaad.


So true dear

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jiarao

Thank you for this post Jean🤗

I agree with everything you have said but can you elaborate on them advancing in the matter of mutual respect during Mandaar track? I am asking because I still haven't seen respect in Pallavi's eyes for Raghav.

I think they briefly touched on it in her conversation with Ayi when she expressed regret about being unfair to Raghav and discarding his concerns, hurting him etc.

When Mandaar appeared, she was initially adamant that her way was right and that Raghav was just overreacting or was being irrational/insecure/paranoid, etc. She didn't respect his opinions because she felt she was right. She has now become hopefully more open to at least considering his perspective and the fact that he may be right too or that she can be wrong too sometimes. I also hope she understands once and for all that being married isn't just about love or romance but also about responsibilities to your spouse. Raghav has been trying for a while now but she realized that she completely neglected this part. When you respect your spouse you are also mindful of your responsibilities towards them (not the same as obligation). She learned this the hard way, is my interpretation of the dialogue.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu


I'm reviving this thread from months ago. My stance hasn't changed, especially the part in bold but look at the state of the show and the leads today! 😕

I had said I loved Raghav unconditionally, which is different from blindly. He's been doing some unacceptable and downright stupid things the last few months and I'll never stop calling him out for it.

Sure, I want him to remain rough and tough with the outside world, but not with family. He's been dealing much better with Amma and Pallavi but still missing the mark with Keerti. Right intentions, wrong approach.

Since Pallavi and he accepted each other, I wanted to see them as proper partners, not one doing uncharacteristic things to elevate the other. Writers need to balance it out. Where's the Pallavi who forced him to return her store keys or her stock? She fought him at every step and showed us her mettle. She wasn't portrayed as a typical mahaan superwoman FL but these days it's borderline. I've been seeing lots of comments on Twitter about the notion of a strong FL.

If we want the writers to avoid cliches and give us something fresh, such as flawed leads, then why are we unable to accept it when they make mistakes? (I'm not talking about situations where writers have amnesia about character sketches).

Raghav was never meant to be the overly mahaan pati parmeshwar type. Pallavi wasn't meant to be the adarsh bahu type, not 100% anyway. So if you don’t want her being that way with the Ds, then don't expect that dynamic with the Raos either. If she bonds with them or cares for them because she gets emotionally attached, organically, that's fine. Don't expect her to feel obliged to do things for them. Don't assume she will always be perfect and never mistakes. If indeed she is strong and independent she should own her decisions and actions, whether they are right or wrong.

If Raghav is over protective and nuts about her and would give his life for her, that shouldn't be surprising. He would do this for anyone who he considers family and he told his alter ego in his first appearance that he had already considered her his family. Yes, he says he can't breathe without her and many people don't like it. But that's the kind of person he is and that's the place he gave her in his life. We can't say that he doesn’t deserve her or she doesn't deserve him. Before the redemption track, maybe. But not now. They chose each other explicitly, without external pressure. However, this doesn't mean he forgets who he is or what he's made of. He didn't get where he is by being dumb so writers had better avoid doing that again to his character.

Perhaps the divine intervention was meant to be a wake up call for them both to stop being blinded by their love and be a bit practical. This had been Pallavi's advice to Keerti in the Hyderabad schedule. I hope our leads retain this in future tracks.

The CVs trolled us with the Raghvi kya karte hain, even though they should have always used their strengths as a couple to solve problems together. They could have avoided the backlash from the get go. I also want to add here that teamwork doesn't mean both have to be present or interfere in each other's matters all the time. I wouldn't want Raghav sticking his nose into D-fam or Pallavi's affairs all the time unless she needed support. Similarly, I don't want her dragged into his matters unnecessarily. It's important to share and care but also to have independent circles or space.

Sometimes one leads and the other follows, depending on who is better placed. At times, you just give other person space and remain in the background, letting them know you are always there for them if they need something. This is healthy and normal and doesn't mean one is superior to another. A husband saving his wife doesn’t mean she's weak and vice versa. I personally wouldn't want to be married to someone who wouldn't protect me even if I'm perfectly capable of handling matters but am aware that you can't always do everything by yourself.


From what I've been reading on social media the last few days, I think many viewers are tired of ITV showing the FL as a bahu always solving problems, investigating, being excessively giving or selfless, being a superwoman, etc. It was a novelty 10-15 years ago but not anymore. Being strong doesn't mean you have all the answers. It's fine to falter, as long as you realize your mistakes and learn from them. So when they bring this up regarding our show, it's not to bash Pallavi or undermine her value but to express frustration with clichéd writing. The writers managed to avoid this for a few months but eventually succumbed to it. I hope they won't go overboard with it.


I know the fandom is divided on her saying sorry or not. To each his/her own but also think about double standards if you hold Raghav to a high bar and expect him to have remorse and always apologize but not for Pallavi to apologize when she wrongs someone. Her saying sorry doesn't take away her dignity as long it's not for something she hasn't done. I know that because of role reversal on the show the ML apologizes easily but the FL doesn't, so either people can accept her that way or can keep wanting her character growth. You can't expect a flawed FL and then get upset when she makes mistakes or is called out for it. She may not apologize and that may be written in deliberately as a character flaw that won't change. Same with the ML. If his excessive rage has always been problematic then you can't just expect it to disappear now that he has a family. He may control it better but it will always keep coming up.

Re: the notion of being henpecked... the term is derogatory and used for a specific reason. A husband becoming like that is never a good sign because it often means he has no dignity or doesn't get respect from his wife in the marriage. Similarly, a wife becoming a doormat is never a good thing because she too doesn't have dignity or doesn't get respect from her husband. Raghav not using his own judgment and skills to deal with situations is understandable once in a while but if this is always the case where he's shown to be wrong in every matter and has to defer to Pallavi, then there is an imbalance in the relationship that gets people's hackles up. Pallavi not focusing on her own1 happiness and being excessively concerned about others to her detriment will also create an imbalance.

Equality and peace in marriage isn't possible without mutual respect. I said that in this thread months ago and I say it again today. During Mandaar's track they both advanced in this matter but there is still some way to go.

And to anyone who wants to accuse me of bashing Pallavi and blindly favoring Raghav, please go read my older posts where I had said at the start of Raghav's redemption track that even if he did reunite her with the D family, she was under no obligation to forgive him or choose him. She had every right to still walk away and start a fresh life, maybe even go to Kolhapur or start her own thing in Hyderabad. No one should judge her for that. If she chose to stay married to Raghav and accepted a life with him, that's her right. She did it after seeing him try to make amends, not before. She wasn't being a doormat then and I hope I never see her become one again like she was at the Ds. I think the whole thing was an eye opener and she slowly learned to show people their limits.


She doesn't need a Rao or Deshmukh surname to find/build her identity. As a woman, I want to see her be independent in the true sense and for her to learn to love and accept herself with or without a husband's presence.

I also don't want to ever see Raghav ignoring his gut feelings even if others think he's overreacting. Better be safe than sorry. As such a supposedly powerful man he can't afford to take risks.


Girl this is such a interesting topic to talk on.

I will reply to this araam se bcz I want to write elaborately and not rush.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu


I'm reviving this thread from months ago. My stance hasn't changed, especially the part in bold but look at the state of the show and the leads today! 😕

I had said I loved Raghav unconditionally, which is different from blindly. He's been doing some unacceptable and downright stupid things the last few months and I'll never stop calling him out for it.

Sure, I want him to remain rough and tough with the outside world, but not with family. He's been dealing much better with Amma and Pallavi but still missing the mark with Keerti. Right intentions, wrong approach.

Since Pallavi and he accepted each other, I wanted to see them as proper partners, not one doing uncharacteristic things to elevate the other. Writers need to balance it out. Where's the Pallavi who forced him to return her store keys or her stock? She fought him at every step and showed us her mettle. She wasn't portrayed as a typical mahaan superwoman FL but these days it's borderline. I've been seeing lots of comments on Twitter about the notion of a strong FL.

If we want the writers to avoid cliches and give us something fresh, such as flawed leads, then why are we unable to accept it when they make mistakes? (I'm not talking about situations where writers have amnesia about character sketches).

Raghav was never meant to be the overly mahaan pati parmeshwar type. Pallavi wasn't meant to be the adarsh bahu type, not 100% anyway. So if you don’t want her being that way with the Ds, then don't expect that dynamic with the Raos either. If she bonds with them or cares for them because she gets emotionally attached, organically, that's fine. Don't expect her to feel obliged to do things for them. Don't assume she will always be perfect and never mistakes. If indeed she is strong and independent she should own her decisions and actions, whether they are right or wrong.

If Raghav is over protective and nuts about her and would give his life for her, that shouldn't be surprising. He would do this for anyone who he considers family and he told his alter ego in his first appearance that he had already considered her his family. Yes, he says he can't breathe without her and many people don't like it. But that's the kind of person he is and that's the place he gave her in his life. We can't say that he doesn’t deserve her or she doesn't deserve him. Before the redemption track, maybe. But not now. They chose each other explicitly, without external pressure. However, this doesn't mean he forgets who he is or what he's made of. He didn't get where he is by being dumb so writers had better avoid doing that again to his character.

Perhaps the divine intervention was meant to be a wake up call for them both to stop being blinded by their love and be a bit practical. This had been Pallavi's advice to Keerti in the Hyderabad schedule. I hope our leads retain this in future tracks.

The CVs trolled us with the Raghvi kya karte hain, even though they should have always used their strengths as a couple to solve problems together. They could have avoided the backlash from the get go. I also want to add here that teamwork doesn't mean both have to be present or interfere in each other's matters all the time. I wouldn't want Raghav sticking his nose into D-fam or Pallavi's affairs all the time unless she needed support. Similarly, I don't want her dragged into his matters unnecessarily. It's important to share and care but also to have independent circles or space.

Sometimes one leads and the other follows, depending on who is better placed. At times, you just give other person space and remain in the background, letting them know you are always there for them if they need something. This is healthy and normal and doesn't mean one is superior to another. A husband saving his wife doesn’t mean she's weak and vice versa. I personally wouldn't want to be married to someone who wouldn't protect me even if I'm perfectly capable of handling matters but am aware that you can't always do everything by yourself.


From what I've been reading on social media the last few days, I think many viewers are tired of ITV showing the FL as a bahu always solving problems, investigating, being excessively giving or selfless, being a superwoman, etc. It was a novelty 10-15 years ago but not anymore. Being strong doesn't mean you have all the answers. It's fine to falter, as long as you realize your mistakes and learn from them. So when they bring this up regarding our show, it's not to bash Pallavi or undermine her value but to express frustration with clichéd writing. The writers managed to avoid this for a few months but eventually succumbed to it. I hope they won't go overboard with it.


I know the fandom is divided on her saying sorry or not. To each his/her own but also think about double standards if you hold Raghav to a high bar and expect him to have remorse and always apologize but not for Pallavi to apologize when she wrongs someone. Her saying sorry doesn't take away her dignity as long it's not for something she hasn't done. I know that because of role reversal on the show the ML apologizes easily but the FL doesn't, so either people can accept her that way or can keep wanting her character growth. You can't expect a flawed FL and then get upset when she makes mistakes or is called out for it. She may not apologize and that may be written in deliberately as a character flaw that won't change. Same with the ML. If his excessive rage has always been problematic then you can't just expect it to disappear now that he has a family. He may control it better but it will always keep coming up.

Re: the notion of being henpecked... the term is derogatory and used for a specific reason. A husband becoming like that is never a good sign because it often means he has no dignity or doesn't get respect from his wife in the marriage. Similarly, a wife becoming a doormat is never a good thing because she too doesn't have dignity or doesn't get respect from her husband. Raghav not using his own judgment and skills to deal with situations is understandable once in a while but if this is always the case where he's shown to be wrong in every matter and has to defer to Pallavi, then there is an imbalance in the relationship that gets people's hackles up. Pallavi not focusing on her own1 happiness and being excessively concerned about others to her detriment will also create an imbalance.

Equality and peace in marriage isn't possible without mutual respect. I said that in this thread months ago and I say it again today. During Mandaar's track they both advanced in this matter but there is still some way to go.

And to anyone who wants to accuse me of bashing Pallavi and blindly favoring Raghav, please go read my older posts where I had said at the start of Raghav's redemption track that even if he did reunite her with the D family, she was under no obligation to forgive him or choose him. She had every right to still walk away and start a fresh life, maybe even go to Kolhapur or start her own thing in Hyderabad. No one should judge her for that. If she chose to stay married to Raghav and accepted a life with him, that's her right. She did it after seeing him try to make amends, not before. She wasn't being a doormat then and I hope I never see her become one again like she was at the Ds. I think the whole thing was an eye opener and she slowly learned to show people their limits.


She doesn't need a Rao or Deshmukh surname to find/build her identity. As a woman, I want to see her be independent in the true sense and for her to learn to love and accept herself with or without a husband's presence.

I also don't want to ever see Raghav ignoring his gut feelings even if others think he's overreacting. Better be safe than sorry. As such a supposedly powerful man he can't afford to take risks.


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when two people accept each other for who they are then I don’t understand why one has to change themselves for the other. Raghav’s character with its flaws is what we as viewers have loved and that’s what makes him THE Raghav Rao.. hopefully the makers don’t screw up his character with morality lectures..


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Posted: 4 years ago
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If I say mending ways for Raghav, I mean it in the light that his work/business/actions must not be a threat to himself, Pallavi, Amma (and his future family). Pallavi does have a say in how Raghav's business is run, when it directly affects her. I don't want Raghav to become saint, doing every single thing legal way, its not possible irl. But at the same time, he should play safe in the way, he and his family are not affected in any way, stay away from stuff that involves killing, exploitation etc.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I think it will happen before only


Today raghav stood up for himself, and he has said that he and Pallavi are different


It will happen in this track only, no one is telling Raghav to change but obviously something illegal is not what anyone would want


so Pallavi might try to influence him but that is what marriage is, she will have to understand that he can be however he wants, he has the right to run his business his way and that his ideology is different from hers



He’s not wrong for running his business like this


she’s not wrong for trying to make him change, especially considering that it could be dangerous



It will be tough for both of them, because they love each other but Raghav won’t go trying to change himself to please his wife


He’s already said it today, he will continue to do so and that may lead to arguments which they’ll have to navigate


The issue comes here, Raghav has been doing this for so long and he knows how to protect himself and His family


but lately, he ha as LOT of people after him, and Pallavi might be worried for his safety


she might try to make him mend/change his ways not because she doesn’t agree but out of fear for him


so we just have to see where they go, overall it’s a strong start


they got the lying thing out of the way, whatever it is they should talk it out not try to deceive each other

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Owia

I just hope Pallavi sheds off her morally upright part of her character just because she realizes how precious love is , which is above morality.

She needs to realise what she stands to loose this time if stays firm towards morality.

Its natural for a wife to get upset if she comes to know about the smuggling business.

I just hope she doesnt act like typical FL this time and understands Raghav.

If they turn RR to a typical ML , I am really done . ITV is full of such MLs.

I actually disagree here. Having ethics isn't bad at all. I don't believe love is above morality because then you should excuse baba taking his son's side, aayi hiding devyani truth, Keerthi helping Sunny, etc. I have no problem with her objecting to his way of business because in the real world such differences like ethics, parenting styles do lead to divorce.

Edited by hapc - 4 years ago

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