Spending way too much arguing on Christmas when there is barely even mention of other religious holidays celebrated by religious minorities in America š( Let alone the option to take holidays for it ).
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Spending way too much arguing on Christmas when there is barely even mention of other religious holidays celebrated by religious minorities in America š( Let alone the option to take holidays for it ).
Originally posted by: HearMeRoar
Nope. The ability to be a mother is not ALL of a woman's capabilities, but it is uniquely that of biological women.
The irony of the feminism card being used to cancel the one human power that is uniquely female! That of giving birth.
And no answer to the question how it improves the state of Trans people anywhere.
It doesnāt. Itās still very performative. There is still a long way for trans women being not treated as outcast.That being said I donāt see how itās a threat to womanhood either . Also lol at womenās ability to give birth being canceled somehow over a official document. Anyways I am done on this .
Originally posted by: Daechwita
I have heard of it and it is fear mongering tactic to rile up a certain base . Christmas songs are played on Macyās and you can still shop Christmas items ( Never been to Bloomingdale ). Also that article you linked proves that it was used as fear-mongering by Trump .
Retail had to pivot on something basic like a Salutation because people were taking offense to it.
How can it be "fear mongering" when the guy designing Christmas Ads for half of America is literally telling you that saying "Merry Christmas" is bad for business. It can lead to missed sales.
I think you're missing the whole point. Right wing, Left wing, Religious, Atheist, Young, Old, Male, Female, Transgender, Whites, Blacks, Natives...it doesn't matter whose getting offended. What matters is that people will get offended over anything and everything, everywhere.
Originally posted by: HearMeRoar
(Sorry, edited this because I read too quickly and read it as a slur)
I just gave you one link. If you actually want to make a good faith effort to look, there's plenty of other evidence from the late 90s to 2000s. People objected to Christmas being canceled, and since the stores needed them to spend their money, the stores backtracked.
You claimed it didn't exist.
(No problem I was about to ask when I name-called ). It doesnāt exist at present or at a scale where Christmas being canceled would be believable . America is still very much a Christian country with everything structured around Christianity for Christmas canceling to even be a legitimate fear .
Originally posted by: Daechwita
It doesnāt. Itās still very performative. There is still a long way for trans women being not treated as outcast.That being said I donāt see how itās a threat to womanhood either . Also lol at womenās ability to give birth being canceled somehow over a official document. Anyways I am done on this .
It 100% is disrespect to mothers to call them birthing persons. It's not about their ability to give birth. And OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED disrespect to 50% of humanity to avoid offending the Lord of the Flies generation.
And what you said actually goes against your argument.
You just acknowledged only women can give birth. Then why not call them mothers? Why birthing persons?
Originally posted by: Daechwita
(No problem I was about to ask when I name-called ). It doesnāt exist at present or at a scale where Christmas being canceled would be believable . America is still very much a Christian country with everything structured around Christianity for Christmas canceling to even be a legitimate fear .
See, the point I'm trying to make is not about Christmas or the American government's wokeification. It's that this boycott/cancel culture is not really an Indian problem. It's been going on for the last 20 years. Internet anonymity has led small but noisy groups to drive the conversation.
Originally posted by: aaditi123
What matters is that people will get offended over anything and everything, everywhere.
People get offended over everything but it's a pretty uniquely Indian thing to take over Twitter, mess up sites like IMDB, do constant enraged boycotts, etc. And it's a recent thing. They tasted blood when they did the Uninstall Flipkart trend and the company buckled and removed Aamir Khan as the ambassador. Since then, this small minority constantly harasses everyone and whines about everything and desecrates and manipulates sites like IMDB as punishment.
Originally posted by: HearMeRoar
Strawman. It 100% is disrespect to mothers to call them birthing persons. It's not about their ability to give birth. And OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED disrespect to 50% of humanity to avoid offending the Lord of the Flies generation.
And what you said actually goes against your argument.
You just acknowledged only women can give birth. Then why not call them mothers? Why birthing persons?
Biological Women identifying as non-binary also give birth . I am not sure if they want to be referred as mothers or would rather be called birthing persons . Going to research more on this before continuing argument.
Originally posted by: HearMeRoar
See, the point I'm trying to make is not about Christmas or the American government's wokeification. It's that this boycott/cancel culture is not really an Indian problem. It's been going on for the last 20 years. Internet anonymity has led small but noisy groups to drive the conversation.
Pretty sure boycott culture originated long before that( i.e canceling any celebrity that was considered Communist by Hollywood ). Itās just more visible now with internet .
Originally posted by: hotchoco
People get offended over everything but it's a pretty uniquely Indian thing to take over Twitter, mess up sites like IMDB, do constant enraged boycotts, etc. And it's a recent thing. They tasted blood when they did the Uninstall Flipkart trend and the company buckled and removed Aamir Khan as the ambassador. Since then, this small minority constantly harasses everyone and whines about everything and desecrates and manipulates sites like IMDB as punishment.
I'll give you IMDB...sure but American Groups have certainly flexed their muscles on twitter before, gotten people fired, outed racists & Karen's, closed down companies...mass reviewed(negative) on company's google pages.
I remember this one from years ago. Was pretty viral...where SM had the company shut down but there's 100's more, big and small companies backtracking. I will say, that the Indian cells are a lot more agenda driven.
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