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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Love for someone doesn't explain her calling Pakhi innocent victim in all this, she did this in an earlier episode too. It's ok if she is mad at Virat and wants to hurt him , spouses do that to eachother when they are mad and they clear things when they makeup. But these words of Sai can these be cleared ever that it was all Virats fault all 4 life's are messed up? I don't agree to this, this is a huge accusation considering she has never questioned Pakhi why she agreed to marry Samrat if she and Virat were eternal lovers. Here I don't agree that she only cares about Virat so she accuses him. What about Samrats pain now considering Pakhi was the one who deceived him? Is Sai not feeling Samrats pain wrt to how Pakhi has deceived him all along when he was missing and she has seen it first hand but only feels smarts pain wrt to Virat ? I feel this is very weird and cannot understand Sais sympathy for Pakhi.

As per my understanding. Sai heard pakhi saying virat gave her vaada that's why she married samrat during pool side conversation. For sai virat gave vaada to pakhi, because of vaada pakhi married samrat, so she is still leading on virat by believing his vaada & virat too lead her on during their initial marriage days after that too he continue to do but not openly (as per sai). She doesn't know virat already cleared his vaada part to pakhi. She thinks pakhi is still leading on virat with hope. Had virat made his stand clear to pakhi, infact never given vaada, all these wouldn't have happened. Sai doesn't know pakhi obsession. Infact in this show no one makes virat accountable about his relationship with pakhi. Aswini,sunny, shivani everyone blames pakhi. Pakhi deserves it. But what about virat? Aswini saw her son being in pakhi room at midnight but instead of teaching his son she taunts only pakhi. But sai know virat used to go to pakhi room & had personal talks with her at midnight many times. That's why she said atleast pakhi says openly what she feels. She said talk to samrat & clear it everything. That's what she wants him to do with pakhi too. She said had he celebrated anniversary infront of pakhi & family she would have accepted it. But now celebrating anniversary by lying & behind the back of pakhi is like him wronging two woman.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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I am really not able to associate only with one dialogue of Sai’s - where she said that Pakhi says what’s on her mind and that’s why she gets proven wrong before everyone. This seems to be targeted more at the audience than having to do with reality, sorry to say. When Sai openly questioned both Virat and Pakhi in front of the entire family, that woman pretended like it was all in Sai’s head and she was accusing them of something untrue. In the end the only person who got “proven wrong” was Sai herself, when the whole family supported Pakhi and not her. So where did this dialogue come from? I felt that it is said only to make us, as the audience, try to think a little differently. I absolutely hated this dialogue.


Other than this I actually liked today’s episode. Yes, Sai crossed a line BIG time and said a lot of untrue things. But so has Virat about Sai and Ajinkya (which is just 1 week back as per the show’s timeline?) and that too with no justification at all - whereas Sai does have some justification atleast. For her, being in that toxic environment of Chavan Niwas, being all alone, targeted by her husband’s so-called ex and now bhabhi, who is the favourite of the household, who systematically and disgustingly took every chance to create nasty situations against Sai and to flame the fires against her in the hearts of most of the elders of the house, and that too for nothing except being married to Virat, who would come into their private space uninvited and with her husband’s ok, with no support other than from people who are shut down immediately - a girl who is now scared that the same ex’s husband wants to divorce her and Virat can be one step closer to what (according to her) she wants - she is lashing out with hurt, but looking for validation. I don’t know why it’s always forgotten that she is just 19, and she IS brash and speaks out of turn. She is looking for a proper word from Virat (and whatever he’s said so far has not registered the way it should) that he chose her. All her insecurities are popping up today, as they did for Virat on the day Ajinkya was in their room.


Having said that, I totally get that Virat wouldn’t want to clarify or justify himself today also. He feels she lacks the maturity to understand his complicated feelings, that he has shown her many times through actions that she is the important person in his life, and that Pakhi doesn’t matter. On top of that, he is also dealing with the guilt of knowing he is the root cause of his own brother leaving their house and that too for nothing. What I didn’t get is why he didn’t say outright to Samrat in front of Sai, Sunny and Mohit that he doesn’t love Pakhi. All of them know about his “past”. Anyway. It’s just another way to make drama. But coming back to it, I really do understand Virat’s point of view in this also. I think this space is needed for both of them. They have both not completed the arc of their issues and keep bouncing back to normal without considering how much is hidden below the surface. It should now be Sai’s journey of realisation of her feelings and how she reciprocates. I actually think this will be good.


What I definitely do not want is Virat insulting Sai in front of the household (there are enough people already to do that) and continued victimisation of an evil and toxic woman. I am waiting for her to get called out finally by Samrat, and I want him to basically repeat everything Sai said plus also support Sai in front of everyone. God knows Sai needs a strong person in her corner. If they continue with Pakhi’s sad story and showing her crying face and giving her screen space, it’s pretty much going to be unbearable and I will actually not be interested in watching at all.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

As per my understanding. Sai heard pakhi saying virat gave her vaada that's why she married samrat during pool side conversation. For sai virat gave vaada to pakhi, because of vaada pakhi married samrat, so she is still leading on virat by believing his vaada & virat too lead her on during their initial marriage days after that too he continue to do but not openly (as per sai). She doesn't know virat already cleared his vaada part to pakhi. She thinks pakhi is still leading on virat with hope. Had virat made his stand clear to pakhi, infact never given vaada, all these wouldn't have happened. Sai doesn't know pakhi obsession. Infact in this show no one makes virat accountable about his relationship with pakhi. Aswini,sunny, shivani everyone blames pakhi. Pakhi deserves it. But what about virat? Aswini saw her son being in pakhi room at midnight but instead of teaching his son she taunts only pakhi. But sai know virat used to go to pakhi room & had personal talks with her at midnight many times. That's why she said atleast pakhi says openly what she feels. She said talk to samrat & clear it everything. That's what she wants him to do with pakhi too. She said had he celebrated anniversary infront of pakhi & family she would have accepted it. But now celebrating anniversary by lying & behind the back of pakhi is like him wronging two woman.

@bold I was referring to why Pakhi even agreed to the marriage in the first place and not the pool scene.


@bold 2 Virat is also wrong and we have always called out Virat when he did these things in the past or when he held her hand recently.


@bold 3- I disagree with this. Just because someone is shameless to claim love for brother in law and is forcing him to have some weird relationship with her doesn't make her honest. There was never honesty in any of the dialogues she said about her eternal love story, it was all manifestations. She was the one who agreed to marry Samrat, Virat was not even in picture at this point, she claims he made a Vaada and broke - the only Vaada he broke is not ever loving anyone, does this any where mean he agreed to do things a wife and hubby would do? She has lied they made plans to get married, dreamt about so many things , when did all this happen. There are many more things but don't have patience to list everything. Pakhi is a plain lier whose story keeps changing each time the distance between Virat and Sai reduces.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Rdigest

@bold I was referring to why Pakhi even agreed to the marriage in the first place and not the pool scene.


@bold 2 Virat is also wrong and we have always called out Virat when he did these things in the past or when he held her hand recently.


@bold 3- I disagree with this. Just because someone is shameless to claim love for brother in law and is forcing him to have some weird relationship with her doesn't make her honest. There was never honesty in any of the dialogues she said about her eternal love story, it was all manifestations. She was the one who agreed to marry Samrat, Virat was not even in picture at this point, she claims he made a Vaada and broke - the only Vaada he broke is not ever loving anyone, does this any where mean he agreed to do things a wife and hubby would do? She has lied they made plans to get married, dreamt about so many things , when did all this happen. There are many more things but don't have patience to list everything. Pakhi is a plain lier whose story keeps changing each time the distance between Virat and Sai reduces.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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@bolded: I don't think Sai is intentionally hurting Virat for reasons I have already explained.


I didn't agree with what Sai said today either when she told Virat that he is responsible for ruining 4 lives. Again, not to justify anything she said, but she truly was not thinking before speaking today. It was her pain pouring out. I still think that she was targeting Virat, because he is the one who has pained her! In the Virat, Pakhi, Sai equation up until this point, Samrat has had nothing to do with it. Sai is hurt by Virat, not Pakhi...because she loves Virat, not Pakhi! Pakhi's actions would not mean anything to her if Virat had cleared up this entire mess!


Sai feeling Samrat's pain is an entirely different story. She feels his pain because she is in the exact same situation as him (from her POV). She feels as though she is the third wheel in Virat and Pakhi's love story, just as he does.


In terms of Sai seeing Pakhi as the victim in this particular situation, I think a part of it also has to be attributed to what Sai herself has witnessed. She sees Pakhi crying and throwing tantrums for Virat. She sees her telling Virat that he shattered her dreams. But, Virat has not clarified any of this to Sai. Yes, Sai sees that Virat is indifferent towards Pakhi now and even defends Sai from Pakhi... but once again, Sai does not know what has happened in the past. The only clues she had up until the anniversary track were pretty much from Pakhi's behavior...


And on a more practical level, the makers' whitewashing of Pakhi definitely plays a role in many of Sai's dialogues.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I see this post of yours daily 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjuRish

I have nothing against Virat but personally I dislike diplomatic peeps in such emo situations. I personally have experienced many issues due to this. It confuses me as a individual when people don't talk clearly. So below is my personal perspective

When Sam walked out Virat was still emo involved with pp it's borderline cheating .. so Sam getting mad is ok. But staying away for so long especially from his Amma and leaving army 😠( I am uncomfortable with this totally) But for their old bond he should give him a chance to clarify what Virat wants to say. If he wants to believe or not he can decide later


At some point virat fell for sai and wants to show in actions but sometimes his keeping quiet in the madhouse dramas and not voicing it out in public makes it look bad. The karma comment was uncalled for.

The best thing would be for all four involved to have a mature con within boundaries of respect and talk clearly without jalebi talk

I agree...seeing him onscreen is one thing..living with such a person is extremely painful!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Just out of curiosity was the fight as bad as it was in KD? Because once Imon and rono were back home there wasn’t some major difference in Rono’s behaviour towards imon.. I’m hoping nothing like that happens here..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rdigest

@bold I was referring to why Pakhi even agreed to the marriage in the first place and not the pool scene.


@bold 2 Virat is also wrong and we have always called out Virat when he did these things in the past or when he held her hand recently.


@bold 3- I disagree with this. Just because someone is shameless to claim love for brother in law and is forcing him to have some weird relationship with her doesn't make her honest. There was never honesty in any of the dialogues she said about her eternal love story, it was all manifestations. She was the one who agreed to marry Samrat, Virat was not even in picture at this point, she claims he made a Vaada and broke - the only Vaada he broke is not ever loving anyone, does this any where mean he agreed to do things a wife and hubby would do? She has lied they made plans to get married, dreamt about so many things , when did all this happen. There are many more things but don't have patience to list everything. Pakhi is a plain lier whose story keeps changing each time the distance between Virat and Sai reduces.

@bold 1 I'm not justifying pakhi. I'm explaining why sai sympathises with pakhi. Sai doesn't know full back story except the fact that virat pakhi loved each other each other & virat gave pakhi vaada because of which she married samrat & still having hopes on him(acc to sai).


@bold 2 I'm telling in show. In show no one held him responsible for the mess he created except sai.


@italic I'm talking from sai pov. Sai doesn't know pakhi was about to marry samrat even before vaada. We audience know pakhi obsession & her vileness. But sai doesn't. For her pakhi is still leading on virat by believing his vaada but virat didn't gave her any clarification instead planning anniversary party behind her back. Isn't it same like valentine's day episode. He asked sai how pakhi got to know about him giving roses. After that he gave pakhi explanation that under which circumstances he gave rose. Explaining bhabi why he gave rose to his wife is bizzare & immoral. That time they both r in deal marriage phase. So that was not an issue. Sai got used to it. She saw virat explaining pakhi about everything right from their deal marriage to valentine's day rose. Sai doesn't want that now. Because this time virat showing normal husband actions which he shouldn't do without giving clarification to both woman ( sai doesn't know he had already clarified to pakhi).

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

@bold 1 I'm not justifying pakhi. I'm explaining why sai sympathises with pakhi. Sai doesn't know full back story except the fact that virat pakhi loved each other each other & virat gave pakhi vaada because of which she married samrat & still having hopes on him(acc to sai).


@bold 2 I'm telling in show. In show no one held him responsible for the mess he created except sai.


@italic I'm talking from sai pov. Sai doesn't know pakhi was about to marry samrat even before vaada. We audience know pakhi obsession & her vileness. But sai doesn't. For her pakhi is still leading on virat by believing his vaada but virat didn't gave her any clarification instead planning anniversary party behind her back. Isn't it same like valentine's day episode. He asked sai how pakhi got to know about him giving roses. After that he gave pakhi explanation that under which circumstances he gave rose. Explaining bhabi why he gave rose to his wife is bizzare & immoral. That time they both r in deal marriage phase. So that was not an issue. Sai got used to it. She saw virat explaining pakhi about everything right from their deal marriage to valentine's day rose. Sai doesn't want that now. Because this time virat showing normal husband actions which he shouldn't do without giving clarification to both woman ( sai doesn't know he had already clarified to pakhi).

You are citing all the things Virat did before he actually realised his love for Sai.So what about the later part where he snubbed Pakhi,avoided her and never let her have hopes on their relationship?Even though Sai did not witness him making it clear to Pakhi,Shouldn’t Sai find the difference in his behaviour and analyse the reason in her own way?

There will be two sides to a coin. Sai is judging Virat seeing only one side of the coin. Instead she should have helped him get the chance to explain Samrat about the past ...She should have assured Virat that she will convince Samrat to hear his story.. She likes to help everyone around..Why can’t she do this for Virat who did a lot for her ?

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