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this is absolutely one of the best explanation, I have ever read.

I feel that more than anything Virat is cared of Sai not liking him back, hence he thinks a lot before asking anything from Sai ,But during his infatuation phase with Didi, he was confident as Pakhi was so mesmerized & impressed by him since first meeting that he knew that she likes him,as she is predictable & just like him.

Whereas Sai is unpredictable & difficult to understand, hence its very difficult to understand her from Virat's perspective. he is not trying to understand that why she behave like this with him.

The problem is that she is too young

I mean think about 18 years old girl who’s pampered and loved by her dad... a dad was showering a love on her as she didn’t have her mom... in the life she never had to think or worried about anything.... Things would be present there before she ask... and suddenly her dad died and she ended marrying a person who was already in love with someone else and his family members were constantly criticizing her...

in this situation all the logics dies.... earlier virat had reminded her about their deal marriage.... now virat has to say clearly that he loves her not pakhi...

Originally posted by: tptwi

I think we are just talking in circles now 🤣

Of course I agree that he should practice the same behavior as a husband and put KBA in her place (that too in front of Sai). What I am trying to say is that the reason he is not practicing such behavior is that he is oblivious to how deeply it is impacting Sai. Every time Virat has had a problem with any of Sai's male friends, he has exploded... because, he felt as if he had the right to be able to do so. Sai has clearly seen how bothered he is, and therefore she has clarified it. When it comes to Sai, she has always repressed her pain when it comes to Pakhi and Virat. She has reacted, but not nearly to the same extent... because she does not feel like she has that right. Instead, she uses zimidari, deal wali shaadi, etc. to express her pain. She has told Virat that she feels as though Pakhi is in between them and asked him if he is still committed to her. But every time, she has quickly moved passed it on the face of it. On the other hand, Virat has created tamashas about his feelings of insecurities. And, yes, I do think it should be common sense to Virat to be able to see how hurt Sai is. But, they are not at that stage in their relationship where they can see through each other's facades and sense what is actually bothering him. Virat already is unable to look past his own feelings (his blind love for Sai, his pure intentions with KBA) and layer that with the fact that Sai has never explicitly expressed her hurt. I'm not defending him... I am agreeing that he is appearing as a very hypocritical person. But, again, I think that it is more complex than that...

Sorry if this doesn't make sense.

Sorry, my brain was full yesterday.☺️😆

I understand the gist of what you are saying.

Laksh and I discussed the same point - that Virat may have been acting in ignorance due to Sai hiding her displeasure. I don't know why we dismissed the idea...

It is convincing except for one point which I will discuss below.

Even if we remove Sai from the picture, there have been times when Virat's interactions with Pakhi have seemed inappropriate. Forget Sai, we as the audience have squirmed at that. I suppose we should blame the writers for this? I guess they wanted to create a 'grey' zone, where Virat's behaviour may easily be misunderstood by Sai but be also be totally out of good intentions on his part. But they have done a bad job of it...because no sensible man would behave like Virat does with his ex-turned-bhabhi. It makes Virat look bad.

I think Sai has beem very direct with her displeasure about pp right from get go. But she has jad to repress it because Virat reprimanded her, pp is the chaheeti bahu of family. So she has been forced to keep her insecurities bottled. But whenever she has had a chance she had been super duper direct with virat eith her "accusations" and "questions". She has never beated around the bush. But Virats response has been to avoid answering. He has either got upset or hurt. But never actually decided to calmly explain everything.

In the beginning he didnt even want to acknowledge that pp was the girl in his past. He used to act like- who pp?! But now over time he has been forced into admitting that pp was indeed his past. But still he acts as if Sai is being unreasonable asking questions about his status with pp. She wants clarity. I dont think thats unfair. And she is demanding it with wifely haq.

He asked her questions about her equation with a friend she merely goes to college with but he gets upset when Sai questions him about a girl he genuinely did have a past with. Someone he did have an infatuation/feelings for. That girl lives with them n leaves no opportunity to make Sai feel like a third wheel in her own marriage.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Sorry, my brain was full yesterday.☺️😆

I understand the gist of what you are saying.

Laksh and I discussed the same point - that Virat may have been acting in ignorance due to Sai hiding her displeasure. I don't know why we dismissed the idea...

It is convincing except for one point which I will discuss below.

Even if we remove Sai from the picture, there have been times when Virat's interactions with Pakhi have seemed inappropriate. Forget Sai, we as the audience have squirmed at that. I suppose we should blame the writers for this? I guess they wanted to create a 'grey' zone, where Virat's behaviour may easily be misunderstood by Sai but be also be totally out of good intentions on his part. But they have done a bad job of it...because no sensible man would behave like Virat does with his ex-turned-bhabhi. It makes Virat look bad.

My brain was also fried 🤣

Even if Sai wasn't in the picture, Virat would never cross the line with Pakhi because a) he loves Samrat with all his heart and b) he never loved Pakhi to begin with. Her true colors would have come out even without Sai in the picture, and he would have realized who she really is. I have not enjoyed the moments between Virat and Pakhi even one bit, but I guess I would again say that Virat's intentions have been pure each time. Some of his initial softness was due to his own guilt and the reason he still is cordial with her and does shit like asking her to stay in CN despite her tamashas is only for one reason... he does not want Samrat's heart to break....

From a more practical viewpoint, the writers were definitely trying hard to keep the VirAkhi angle alive at the start of the show.... but I think they have learned their lesson now (hopefully)

Originally posted by: tptwi

My brain was also fried 🤣

Even if Sai wasn't in the picture, Virat would never cross the line with Pakhi because a) he loves Samrat with all his heart and b) he never loved Pakhi to begin with. Her true colors would have come out even without Sai in the picture, and he would have realized who she really is. I have not enjoyed the moments between Virat and Pakhi even one bit, but I guess I would again say that Virat's intentions have been pure each time. Some of his initial softness was due to his own guilt and the reason he still is cordial with her and does shit like asking her to stay in CN despite her tamashas is only for one reason... he does not want Samrat's heart to break....

But tbh that makes no sense to me. Why will samrats heart break. He isnt even there. When he comes, Samrat n pp can figure out what to do with their shaadi n their life. I dont think theres any excuse for his "softness" to pp after the time she showed her true colors during Sai ousting. Until then ok- he felt guilty, he didn't see her real intentions. But At that point when she essentially told virat what her expectations were, n virat understood n told her to stay in her limit....after that virat should ne the first one to encourage her to go to maayka and stay away from him-Sai. But nakers have made him a pendulum. He is stern with pp in private but soft to her in public in front of Sai.

Originally posted by: Nja91

But tbh that makes no sense to me. Why will samrats heart break. He isnt even there. When he comes, Samrat n pp can figure out what to do with their shaadi n their life. I dont think theres any excuse for his "softness" to pp after the time she showed her true colors during Sai ousting. Until then ok- he felt guilty, he didn't see her real intentions. But At that point when she essentially told virat what her expectations were, n virat understood n told her to stay in her limit....after that virat should ne the first one to encourage her to go to maayka and stay away from him-Sai. But nakers have made him a pendulum. He is stern with pp in private but soft to her in public in front of Sai.

Well during the dining room table scene, it was clear to me that he wants Pakhi to be in the house for when Samrat returns so that they can figure it out on their own... he does not want her to leave the house until then. He feels partially responsible for what has happened between Pakhi and Samrat, so he wants to make sure that he can try to fix it. And, all of this is going to be on maximum display now.... his attempts to save their relationship will cause even more strains on his relationship with Sai. That's the problem I guess with Virat... he truly loves blindly in all of his relationships and loses his ability to think rationally... I think even Neil mentioned this in one of his interviews...

Originally posted by: tptwi

Well during the dining room table scene, it was clear to me that he wants Pakhi to be in the house for when Samrat returns so that they can figure it out on their own... he does not want her to leave the house until then. He feels partially responsible for what has happened between Pakhi and Samrat, so he wants to make sure that he can try to fix it. And, all of this is going to be on maximum display now.... his attempts to save their relationship will cause even more strains on his relationship with Sai. That's the problem I guess with Virat... he truly loves blindly in all of his relationships and loses his ability to think rationally... I think even Neil mentioned this in one of his interviews...

Ya but i dont understand why virat thinks pp staying till samrat returns is helpful.

Sai made pp stay out of obligation to virat/family. They wanted pp to stay so Sai told her to stay. But why is virat making pp stay?

1. Her being there makes her only more upset that virat is moving on. Maybe if she left she would dind something useful to do with her life.

2. Her toxicity is affecting his relationship with Sai.

Virst has acknowledged that pp is crossing the line in her hate fir Sai- by shoving Sai making her fall n not even showing basic insaaniyat to help her up n apologize. She deliberately created a misunderstanding by sending ajinkya up to the room

When its obvious that pp's presence is hurting all 3 of them why make her stay and behave like a pendulum. When Sanrat comes they will figure things out.

She is not leaving the planet, only CN!

Originally posted by: Nja91

Ya but i dont understand how pp staying till samrat returns is helpful.

1. Her being there makes her only more upset that virat is moving on. Maybe if she left she would dind something useful to do with her life.

2. Her toxicity is affecting his relationship with Sai.

Virst has acknowledged that pp is crossing the line in her hate fir Sai- by shoving Sai making her fall n not even showing basic insaaniyat to help her up n apologize. She deliberately created a misunderstanding by sending ajinkya up to the room

When its obvious that pp's presence is hurting all 3 of them why make her stay and behave like a pendulum. When Sanrat comes they will figure things out.

She is not leaving the planet, only CN!

Neerja, see, I agree with all of this. But, we are thinking about this entire situation logically. Virat's thought process is overclouded by his emotions and quite the opposite of rational. And, I can't even say that this is unrealistic, because I have seen people in my own life behave like this. In Virat's mind, Samrat's heart will break if he comes back to CN to see that Pakhi has left him. Samrat has already endured enough, and Virat does not want to see him in more pain. He knows how much Samrat "loves" (eyeroll) Pakhi... in Virat's mind, this is the least he can do for him. He clearly doesn't care that Pakhi is getting more and more upset in that house, because all he sees is that he loves Sai, and nothing can come in between that....

Originally posted by: tptwi

Neerja, see, I agree with all of this. But, we are thinking about this entire situation logically. Virat's thought process is overclouded by his emotions and quite the opposite of rational. And, I can't even say that this is unrealistic, because I have seen people in my own life behave like this. In Virat's mind, Samrat's heart will break if he comes back to CN to see that Pakhi has left him. Samrat has already endured enough, and Virat does not want to see him in more pain. He knows how much Samrat "loves" (eyeroll) Pakhi... in Virat's mind, this is the least he can do for him. He clearly doesn't care that Pakhi is getting more and more upset in that house, because all he sees is that he loves Sai, and nothing can come in between that....

Ya but i wish someone would tell him that its irrational to expect pp to stay there for "samrats sake". Samrat wasnt there, pp cared 2 hoots for him n when Samrat came, the issue could've been figured out . Anyway now Samrat IS back so its kinda redundant. Lol.