advice to writers from a (somewhat) neutral viewer - Page 6

Originally posted by: hapc

Firstly if you have sympathy for Fateh after he slept with his wife but is still cheating with his ex, I’m positive you can sympathize with Tejo and feel like she needs happiness too. I don’t see how it is fair to hate on Tejo so much although I don’t think she is a saint either. Jasmine is also awful post marriage but I also feel like they could have properly written her as a character who does some bad stuff and still deserves a little bit of sympathy. Honestly I’m surprised that you have more sympathy for Fateh than the two sisters when to be honest I feel like he is as flawed as the two of them if not more.

You have always judged her by how she has treated her sister, that’s interesting. Pre-marriage I found Tejo a mostly good sister. Mostly because she let stalker Fateh into her sister’s life and tried to convince her to have him in her life just because he fought with his dad for her.

Marriage day- Tejo told Jasso the elders are asking her to get married to Fateh and Jasso handed her the Chuda. She let the wedding happen and then did the whole Jiju jiju thing on the next day of the Pagphera. As to Tejo her dad collapsed in front of her. Is Tejo somewhat responsible for this mess? I believe yes. But is she solely responsible? No.

Then your hate on her for consummation..
Fateh and Jasmine actively tried hard to convince her that they have moved on. Her sister pulled off a drunk act where she pretended to be super upset that Gippy refused to marry her and she’s alone etc etc and as someone who hadn’t been drunk Tejo believed it. The only minor sign Jasmine gave Tejo about her obsession was when she told her she regrets not getting married that day and then covered it up by saying it was Tejo she was worried about. How suspicious can one be of their own family? Even if your experience makes you have a doubt there is a part of your mind that will tell you you are overthinking. Secondly Fateh initiated it. So if anyone’s more to blame here, it’s Fateh. He was the one who has feelings for someone else and he was also the one who initiated it.

Back to Tejo

Is she trying to convince herself because she’s in love with Fateh and has been attracted to him pre-marriage?. Maybe. I mean her support for Fateh even before the marriage made little sense to me and the fact that she managed to move on probably means that she didn’t see him as a BIL much, more like a BFF or someone she is mildly attracted to. I also think she’s spoilt her own sister and made her dependent and has allowed people to take advantage of her. I would honestly love if they added grey shades to her character too because the saintly portrayal is annoying but I do think you’re being way too harsh with her.

Coming to JasFa, I see the love story of a stalker and someone who wanted a free servant and now two obsessed people. I don’t see passionate love just stupid obsession. If they hadn’t shown him stalk her for two years and instead showed them date for a while instead It would have made more sense. FaTejo would also be weird to be very honest though.

(Sidenote I also find it unfair that you’ve stated that you opinion is neutral when the fact is that you probably have your own bias. Towards Jasfa or Fateh or Against Tejo, I’m not sure. And made ones of us with differing opinions seem like idiotic fans. However if you are talking about taking the show seriously then I guess you aren’t wrong because I have stopped doing so.)

I am not looking to be fair but objective. I did state that I was somewhat neutral. I don't like any of the characters. They are all poorly written and I can see no way of redemption, for any of them. However, the character I detest the most is Tejo; she grates on my nerves. She is a sneaky, whiny person who may have slight aspergers. The fact that she is so dumb to think that her husband who was literally obsessed with her sister yesterday is now over her is bonkers. Dumbness is one of the fastest ways to get on my nerves and I am especially aggravated because the writers are presenting this moron as a professor, a Psychology professor no less! She has no clue about the stages of a break up? As for Fateh, I don't believe I spared him. I did not sympathize with him. I said he should suffer for 20 years with Tejo and then maybe after he can find some happiness. I find nothing redeemable about him. In my opinion, he has cheated on 2 women: she slept with Tejo when claiming undying love to Jasmine and he cheated on Tejo, his wife. As you can see, I find nothing redeemable in this leather Lothario lover.

Originally posted by: Euphoria_V

🤣see she is jasmine's devotee under the disguise of neutral viewer

Originally posted by: poo_j

Indeed!! Especially on JasFa reuion after 20 years and Tejo dying!!! 🤣 I was like that doesn’t sound neutral..🤨 Neutral should be Fateh ending up alone!!!

but what is about 20 no.? is it lucky no. for jasfa😆 is it fixed for tejo's death and jasfa reunion

till then fatejo would have 2-3 young kids and end of jasu ki jawani the beauty of which ego she had

but still they can sing a song with no teeth in mouth uniting 'jo wada kiya who nibhana padega..tumhe ana padega'🤣🤣

it will real ebadati ishq u see of JASFA(full form you know)🤓

poo are you rbo fan who posted siggies on shanak/yasharan😃

Originally posted by: LostDelirious

Yeah Fateh deserves happiness for sure... he and Jasmine can both go to h3ll. Both can di3 and suffer in hell together 😂🤣 and regarding Tejo, she doesn’t need a MAN TO VALIDATE HER EXISTENCE. Only one showing desperation for a man is Jasmine 🤢 she literally has no identity of her own nor the capability to ever fulfill her dream of going to Canada.

LMFAO yeah umm trying to find logic in your arguments but it’s impossible 🤪 Tejo is Fateh’s wife and I believe you have forgotten this fact. She consummated with Fateh because she had developed feelings for him if it wasn’t OBVIOUS, and for her it was purely making love to him. She thought that he had accepted her as his wife finally and moved on from Jasmine.

And guys instead of wasting your time and energy replying to NONSENSICAL posts, just laugh react on it, as that’s what it’s worth. We don’t even owe any explanations really, will rather royally ignore clowns 🤡

Next time not gonna fall for this NEUTRAL gimmick!!!

Originally posted by: poo_j

Reading the topic all thought..Ok chalo let’s read the netural view..But then it turned out JasFa fan in disguise!! 🤣🤣🤣 So all including me gave the explanation..

Next time not gonna fall for this NEUTRAL gimmick!!!

i know her previous post

here for just fun 😆😆

Originally posted by: kiransgirl

I am not looking to be fair but objective. I did state that I was somewhat neutral. I don't like any of the characters. They are all poorly written and I can see no way of redemption, for any of them. However, the character I detest the most is Tejo; she grates on my nerves. She is a sneaky, whiny person who may have slight aspergers. The fact that she is so dumb to think that her husband who was literally obsessed with her sister yesterday is now over her is bonkers. Dumbness is one of the fastest ways to get on my nerves and I am especially aggravated because the writers are presenting this moron as a professor, a Psychology professor no less! She has no clue about the stages of a break up? As for Fateh, I don't believe I spared him. I did not sympathize with him. I said he should suffer for 20 years with Tejo and then maybe after he can find some happiness. I find nothing redeemable about him. In my opinion, he has cheated on 2 women: she slept with Tejo when claiming undying love to Jasmine and he cheated on Tejo, his wife. As you can see, I find nothing redeemable in this leather Lothario lover.

@bold ok👍🏼

@italic now this is what makes you biased. If the husband is playing nice game with his wife being lovey-dovey, praising her etc. Then no wife can doubt his intentions. Dumbness is irritating but you can't blame her. She is not aware of her husband's real intentions. You are targeting tejo's character most. I don't see you using single harsh words for jasmine. That's the reality you are blind follower of this character so you don't find faults in her.

She's sneaky and whiny person not tejo.

Jasmine herself cancelled the wedding because of her dreams right. Then she should follow her dreams not fateh. What is she doing now betraying her sister and loving the thrills she is getting from chupan chupayi prem with fateh. Don't forget she's the one who pushed her sister to marry her ex.

And what's your obsession with 20 years leap- death blah blah.

If leap is going to happen then I wish to see tejo completing her PhD and well settled in her life.

And jasmine this velli married to fateh .where Fateh is having affair with another woman behind her back.

Karma

Originally posted by: Marathi_Mulgi

but what is about 20 no.? is it lucky no. for jasfa😆 is it fixed for tejo's death and jasfa reunion

till then fatejo would have 2-3 young kids and end of jasu ki jawani the beauty of which ego she had

but still they can sing a song with no teeth in mouth uniting 'jo wada kiya who nibhana padega..tumhe ana padega'🤣🤣

it will real ebadati ishq u see of JASFA(full form you know)🤓

Yes..No idea about 20..Why not 50??? I think TM wanted JasFa to have kids possibly..Jasmine will be like 38..So..🤣🤣🤣

@ bold: Totally..And their love story will give competition to all the epic love stories!!!

Originally posted by: poo_j

Jasmine and JasFa fans keep surprising me!!! 🤣 Don’t know next to what length they will be going to defend their undefendable ship!!! Tho I am ready with the popcorn!!! 🍿

🤣they live in delusion just like their favourite character

Originally posted by: sellysona

This post is exactly what I have been thinking of since last few days. I have started watching this show recently and replying on india forum after such a long time.

I feel like all the 3 characters are characterless. And after reading posts of people defending Tejo here I question myself that are this members really from India or understand Indian society. There are countless scenario here where two people in love cannot marry due one reason or another. And it is not that easy to move on. I think this is the first show trying to portray reality. In almost every other show the guy forcibly gets married to a good, meek, saint girl and just forgets his old love. Why? Bcoz his wife is so caring.

Well, this doesn't happen in reality. No matter how caring, sweet, kind, meek, saint( mahan) the wife is, it is not easy to forget love.

I also have a elder sister who is in a relationship. I can't even imagine a scenario where if by any circumstances or any situation I have to be forcibly married to my potential brother in law, I would happily be in love in few weeks. It just feels so disgusting. A person whom you have seen as Your BROTHER in law. Brother being the key word here. How can one easily consummate with him, knowing her sister was in love wth him once ( no matter of thier feelings now). It might take months or even years. Unless ofcourse the girl was always crushing on her Brother in law.

No comments on Fateh or Jasmine because they are already a despicable character. Nothing can justify a man claiming to be in love with one sister and having sex with another. Or a sister who may have been a love with a man but is ready to cheat her sister. The honourable thing would hve been Jasmine accepting her mistake in front of everyone, apologize and then demands annulment of marriage of fateh and tejo, instead of playing games and cheating. It's all right to make mistakes and take decision in anger. We are humans and we all have make decisions in anger and mistakes. But to play games and cheat is just wrong .

I really am enjoying the show as I feel all the 3 are flawed characters and a somewhat realistic but extreme portrayal of people. Because people are selfish in real world too, just not extreme characterless as shown in the show.

I liked your post a lot. It was reasoned and well-thought out. I, myself, have 3 sisters; we are 4 girls. I cannot imagine ever thinking of any of my brother-in-laws as anything other than brothers. In fact, every time I travel, my eldest brother-in-law takes me to the airport. He treats me like a sister, worries about me, checks up on me on Whatsapp, follows my flight and picks me up when I return. He is a brother. For me, the most despicable aspect of this story is the deterioration of relations between the sisters. I have not been bothered by Jasmine's antics, until now. She was/is spoiled, obnoxious, self-centered; well yes, she is 20 years old. That is what 20 year olds are like when they are 20 and have zero responsibility or haven't encountered any hardships to embitter them.

I am pleasantly surprised that there was an acknowledgement of what happens to people, in India, who are forced to marry others even though they love someone else. I can understand that such a scenario might hit too close to home, for some, so it's easy to demonize people's feelings. It is a reality, though; people don't just fall out of love or forget that they loved someone else just because they have a pliant, attractive wife from the same community and caste. This is why I believe this is also a missed opportunity for the show. The writers could have written this subject with some subtlety. Fateh's obsession with Jasmine should have been a topic Tejo broached and dealt with. There should have been a real conversation between the sisters. The way the writers have just bulldozed ahead, as if these issues don't exist, is the problem. Of course, we can't discount that many viewers may not want this part of the story to be explored, as it might mean such things actually exist and happens every day..lol

Hey, thanks for a reasoned response.

Originally posted by: kiransgirl

I am not looking to be fair but objective. I did state that I was somewhat neutral. I don't like any of the characters. They are all poorly written and I can see no way of redemption, for any of them. However, the character I detest the most is Tejo; she grates on my nerves. She is a sneaky, whiny person who may have slight aspergers. The fact that she is so dumb to think that her husband who was literally obsessed with her sister yesterday is now over her is bonkers. Dumbness is one of the fastest ways to get on my nerves and I am especially aggravated because the writers are presenting this moron as a professor, a Psychology professor no less! She has no clue about the stages of a break up? As for Fateh, I don't believe I spared him. I did not sympathize with him. I said he should suffer for 20 years with Tejo and then maybe after he can find some happiness. I find nothing redeemable about him. In my opinion, he has cheated on 2 women: she slept with Tejo when claiming undying love to Jasmine and he cheated on Tejo, his wife. As you can see, I find nothing redeemable in this leather Lothario lover.

Once again, I don't believe you are being objective or even somewhat neutral. You may dislike all characters but you have a bias against Tejo. You've stated it quite clearly. There's another post by @tejaswiniwenham where she's also been very objective and pointed out that you are just biased as the rest of us only difference being that your bias is against Tejo and ours is towards.

Coming to the rest of your post. I agree that Tejo is being very dumb. We've also discussed that it makes no sense for a psychology professor to be so naive. I also agree that all the characters have been very poorly written and I find none of the leads likeable and believable. The only characters I truly like and find relatable are side characters.