advice to writers from a (somewhat) neutral viewer

I will give a trigger alert; my opinions will not be supported by many people here. Rabid fans can stay away but those who are thinking about the show, seriously, can join in.

About a month ago, I wrote a post stating that Fateh was characterless. I haven't revisited it but I am sure there was a lot of bashing of that opinion, as at the time, most readers here had stars in their eyes about Fateh marrying Tejo and there is rabid hatred for Jasmine. I will take this time to simply appreciate the fact that I was right. Fateh is spineless and characterless. He did not consider the ramifications of marrying someone else when he loved another. To make matters worse, he has now conjugated his marriage {:x} and apparently is embarking on an affair with the person whom he is obsessed/loved. Truthfully, he is not wrong, somewhat. The heart wants what it wants. You can't just reason with it. So he wants Jasmine; he has been honest about this from day one. What is wrong is consummating his marriage, when he is unsure and embarking on an affair. In these two areas, he is wrong. I would recommend that the writers strongly stay true to the script: he loves Jasmine but will remain married to Tejo, because she is his wife and best friend. Maybe, towards the end of the show, they can do a leap, in about 20 years, where Tejo dies and he gets to be with Jasmine, the one he loves. He may be characterless but he does deserve some happiness.

Now, Tejo. This character is insufferable and sneaky. She is NO victim. She knows exactly what she is doing. This woman knowingly and happily had $eX with the man SHE knows her sister loves. Digest that. She knew she was coming between Jasmine and Fateh. Yes, she is now married to him but did he get amnesia? Did she think conjugating a marriage will be enough to forget one's love. I mean she is brainless and we are supposed to believe she is a professor. lol. IF it were so easy to get over love then everyone who entered into an arranged marriage would just consummate it and then those feelings would evaporate. The truth is there are MANY people who get married and conduct affairs with the one the used to love and could not marry. It's not acceptable but the writers are, in fact, showing a reality that does occur in India. We don't have to approve of it and I most certainly don't. It happens. For me, Tejo lost ANY rooting value or credibility when she decided to have relatons with the man she knows her sister loves (forget his feelings for Jasmine). I have always assessed Tejo on her relations with her sister. I have found her to be disloyal and sneaky. In fact, perhaps, even envious. What drives Tejo's actions: easy. She loves Fateh. In fact, there may have been truth to Jasmine's claim that Tejo wanted Fateh and secretly lusted or loved him, before the marriage. She certainly fell quickly, didn't she? Yeah ok. IF she can happily have $ex with the man her sister loves, even after such a short period, she gets exactly what she deserves. She can cry a river but she is sneaky and characterless as well. The only way to redeem her is to make her vengeful and angry. It will help her insufferable "saintly" portrayal and who knows? It might actually make her attractive to Fateh. Make her evil. Make her vengeful. Stop the saint crap. She is no saint and would make a great villain.

Now Jasmine. Characterless as well. There can be no redeeming any character that knowingly engages in an affair with her sister's husband. This is a choice. It will change everything about the character. She needs to move on. She can pine for Fateh but do the right thing. Be a good friend or move. Then in 20 years after Tejo dies she gets to be with the man she loves. Embarking on an affair, especially if a child will be involved barbecue we all know Tejo will get preggers, is no acceptable. The writers need to remain true to Jasmine and have her be the love of Fateh's life but have Tejo be the wife. That too happens regularly in arranged marriages.

I stopped watching the show when I thought it was a Fatejo story. They are boring. I find nothing to root for in the two of them. Settling is not a way to write a passionate love story. Anyone with eyes can see the real excitement is with Jasmine and Fateh. Writers should stay true to that scenario

Most people still hate Jasmine, she is a narcissist, hardly anything interesting about her & her need to ride on others back for her own success.

As for Jasmine & Fateh's love story, will hardly call it passionate. Jasmine just want a crazy Fateh at her beck. Any sign of trouble she will be the first one to run away.

😆 There isn't many of us who liked Fateh but damn I don't remember anyone termed him as "characterless" 🤪😆

Okay, I get your points, I don't entirely agree with them.

I also said it before I don't remember when how can anyone fall for a dude who had hots for your sister and you witnessed it all. I was told it's ITV don't think much because it's all drama without much logic.

To make it short,

Jasmine was most of the time shown selfish, egoistic and driven by her dream. As much as her dream sucked because she needed someone to achieve it, she was clear. Even now she is a bit clear Gippy is for the show and a means to fool people. She switched from Canada to Fateh a bit too quick but her only drive was he can never move on from Queen Jasmine, he will always pine for her because he also made her believe that.

Fateh was a poorly written character. His dream was Jasmine? He knew how she was and yet was shocked and hurt when she broke the wedding. He had it coming because he even knew how she would react. She was always clear, Canada first. He lacks of self-respect and was always obsessed, stalker and sending gifts anonymously 🤢 always indecisive, dependent and emotionally unstable 🤪 honestly he got married because he was being emotional and under pressure, at first it was his best friend so it was okay, I still have no idea why he did the deed and make it even more confusing for him 🤪🤪 I'm sure even the writers don't know how to write the character properly.

The show has nothing different to offer. It's the same old wine in a new bottle, same concept, guy stuck between 2 sisters, promos were about dreams, ambitions and career right now we are seeing psycho sister, oblivious elder sister and pendulum hero.

As far Tejo, her selflessness and self sacrificing nature is such a turn off. The first few episodes where her family is Canada driven are 🤢 She has a good moments but she can be so dumb at times because she believes her love ones are like her. I don't know why she believed Fateh is moving on, maybe because she saw him struggling and making an effort yet she never gave it a second tonight. Tejo is the typical girl who has been told that the husband is everything. She didn't have much expectations from her life partner as she mentioned before also - someone to support her and let her work. She fell for him because of that and he also made her believe everything was going great between them. Why she never thought about it and decided to be blind- creative liberty... I don't know. Yet, unlike the 2 leads she is self-sufficient and independent. She needs no one and quite level headed... *was*. Still a better character compared to the othe two but yes, dumbed down.

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As for JasFa love story, it's just 2 obsessed psycho, there is neither passion nor emotions. They can be together because they are so compatible.

Firstly if you have sympathy for Fateh after he slept with his wife but is still cheating with his ex, I’m positive you can sympathize with Tejo and feel like she needs happiness too. I don’t see how it is fair to hate on Tejo so much although I don’t think she is a saint either. Jasmine is also awful post marriage but I also feel like they could have properly written her as a character who does some bad stuff and still deserves a little bit of sympathy. Honestly I’m surprised that you have more sympathy for Fateh than the two sisters when to be honest I feel like he is as flawed as the two of them if not more.

You have always judged her by how she has treated her sister, that’s interesting. Pre-marriage I found Tejo a mostly good sister. Mostly because she let stalker Fateh into her sister’s life and tried to convince her to have him in her life just because he fought with his dad for her.

Marriage day- Tejo told Jasso the elders are asking her to get married to Fateh and Jasso handed her the Chuda. She let the wedding happen and then did the whole Jiju jiju thing on the next day of the Pagphera. As to Tejo her dad collapsed in front of her. Is Tejo somewhat responsible for this mess? I believe yes. But is she solely responsible? No.

Then your hate on her for consummation..
Fateh and Jasmine actively tried hard to convince her that they have moved on. Her sister pulled off a drunk act where she pretended to be super upset that Gippy refused to marry her and she’s alone etc etc and as someone who hadn’t been drunk Tejo believed it. The only minor sign Jasmine gave Tejo about her obsession was when she told her she regrets not getting married that day and then covered it up by saying it was Tejo she was worried about. How suspicious can one be of their own family? Even if your experience makes you have a doubt there is a part of your mind that will tell you you are overthinking. Secondly Fateh initiated it. So if anyone’s more to blame here, it’s Fateh. He was the one who has feelings for someone else and he was also the one who initiated it.

Back to Tejo

Is she trying to convince herself because she’s in love with Fateh and has been attracted to him pre-marriage?. Maybe. I mean her support for Fateh even before the marriage made little sense to me and the fact that she managed to move on probably means that she didn’t see him as a BIL much, more like a BFF or someone she is mildly attracted to. I also think she’s spoilt her own sister and made her dependent and has allowed people to take advantage of her. I would honestly love if they added grey shades to her character too because the saintly portrayal is annoying but I do think you’re being way too harsh with her.

Coming to JasFa, I see the love story of a stalker and someone who wanted a free servant and now two obsessed people. I don’t see passionate love just stupid obsession. If they hadn’t shown him stalk her for two years and instead showed them date for a while instead It would have made more sense. FaTejo would also be weird to be very honest though.

(Sidenote I also find it unfair that you’ve stated that you opinion is neutral when the fact is that you probably have your own bias. Towards Jasfa or Fateh or Against Tejo, I’m not sure. And made ones of us with differing opinions seem like idiotic fans. However if you are talking about taking the show seriously then I guess you aren’t wrong because I have stopped doing so.)

Originally posted by: hapc

Back to Tejo

Coming to JasFa, I see the love story of a stalker and someone who wanted a free servant and now two obsessed people. I don’t see passionate love just stupid obsession. If they hadn’t shown him stalk her for two years and instead showed them date for a while instead It would have made more sense. FaTejo would also be weird to be very honest though.

I remember Bluekohl saying that Fateh would be the roadside romeo stalker but not every roadside stalker is as handsome 😆

Originally posted by: music_girl

@bold we are never forget the stalker part 🤪🤪

I remember Bluekohl saying that Fateh would be the roadside romeo stalker but not every roadside stalker is as handsome 😆

When I didn't used to watch the show, but my mom used to (shw still does), I saw a peeping tom standing on a wall who's tadoing jasso while she didn't even know him!!!! And I stand by my statement that any guy (no matter how handsome or hot) did that to me, I'mma bash his head. Like call the cops.

For Jasfa it's not love. You don't manipulate your lover. The reason I shipped fatejo, for most part they had the qualities of a healthy couple. Jasfa are a toxic mess who wouldn't realise what love is if it's in a human form. (And they don't, tejo has loved both of them selflessly)

This post is exactly what I have been thinking of since last few days. I have started watching this show recently and replying on india forum after such a long time.

I feel like all the 3 characters are characterless. And after reading posts of people defending Tejo here I question myself that are this members really from India or understand Indian society. There are countless scenario here where two people in love cannot marry due one reason or another. And it is not that easy to move on. I think this is the first show trying to portray reality. In almost every other show the guy forcibly gets married to a good, meek, saint girl and just forgets his old love. Why? Bcoz his wife is so caring.

Well, this doesn't happen in reality. No matter how caring, sweet, kind, meek, saint( mahan) the wife is, it is not easy to forget love.

I also have a elder sister who is in a relationship. I can't even imagine a scenario where if by any circumstances or any situation I have to be forcibly married to my potential brother in law, I would happily be in love in few weeks. It just feels so disgusting. A person whom you have seen as Your BROTHER in law. Brother being the key word here. How can one easily consummate with him, knowing her sister was in love wth him once ( no matter of thier feelings now). It might take months or even years. Unless ofcourse the girl was always crushing on her Brother in law.

No comments on Fateh or Jasmine because they are already a despicable character. Nothing can justify a man claiming to be in love with one sister and having sex with another. Or a sister who may have been a love with a man but is ready to cheat her sister. The honourable thing would hve been Jasmine accepting her mistake in front of everyone, apologize and then demands annulment of marriage of fateh and tejo, instead of playing games and cheating. It's all right to make mistakes and take decision in anger. We are humans and we all have make decisions in anger and mistakes. But to play games and cheat is just wrong .

I really am enjoying the show as I feel all the 3 are flawed characters and a somewhat realistic but extreme portrayal of people. Because people are selfish in real world too, just not extreme characterless as shown in the show.

Phulandevi had sex with her husband 😕 granted she does not have a brain to her credit 🤪 she did not force Jassho's lub to sleep with her they consummated their marriage after Jassho proposed Gippy for marriage Ab apne husband ke sath she can't have sex to kya kare wo? He made a move and she being his wife accepted his advances 🤔 marriage is not platonic 😛

Originally posted by: sellysona

This post is exactly what I have been thinking of since last few days. I have started watching this show recently and replying on india forum after such a long time.

I feel like all the 3 characters are characterless. And after reading posts of people defending Tejo here I question myself that are this members really from India or understand Indian society. There are countless scenario here where two people in love cannot marry due one reason or another. And it is not that easy to move on. I think this is the first show trying to portray reality. In almost every other show the guy forcibly gets married to a good, meek, saint girl and just forgets his old love. Why? Bcoz his wife is so caring.

Well, this doesn't happen in reality. No matter how caring, sweet, kind, meek, saint( mahan) the wife is, it is not easy to forget love.

I also have a elder sister who is in a relationship. I can't even imagine a scenario where if by any circumstances or any situation I have to be forcibly married to my potential brother in law, I would happily be in love in few weeks. It just feels so disgusting. A person whom you have seen as Your BROTHER in law. Brother being the key word here. How can one easily consummate with him, knowing her sister was in love wth him once ( no matter of thier feelings now). It might take months or even years. Unless ofcourse the girl was always crushing on her Brother in law.

No comments on Fateh or Jasmine because they are already a despicable character. Nothing can justify a man claiming to be in love with one sister and having sex with another. Or a sister who may have been a love with a man but is ready to cheat her sister. The honourable thing would hve been Jasmine accepting her mistake in front of everyone, apologize and then demands annulment of marriage of fateh and tejo, instead of playing games and cheating. It's all right to make mistakes and take decision in anger. We are humans and we all have make decisions in anger and mistakes. But to play games and cheat is just wrong .

I really am enjoying the show as I feel all the 3 are flawed characters and a somewhat realistic but extreme portrayal of people. Because people are selfish in real world too, just not extreme characterless as shown in the show.

As someone else with a sister, I would be disgusted at even thought of having to marry a brother in law(Feel bad for Madhuri's character in HAHK). Honestly I don't think Tejo ever considered Fateh a brother in law, she always called him a best friend. I do think that it's possible that she liked him before the wedding. In any case even in reality if such a thing happened and the new wife did agree to consummate the wedding I wouldn't really blame her because s*x is a part of most marriages but I get that we may differ in opinion here. I don't find Tejo a saint though, to be honest apart from her independence I don't see much to her character. Now that even that is gone, I find her a typical FL. Tejo's biggest flaw in my opinion would definitely be spoiling her sister . It's like bad parenting but Tejo isn't a parent.

I don't mind them portraying EMA because it does happen, I just have an issue with makers glorifying it and calling it ibadati ishq instead of cheating.

You claim to love someone for two years and yet dont have any idea about the biggest obsession ur person of interest have, that is canada!!!

you have no idea about who are there in her family! but still that is love. wow.

this show can be any thing but portrayal of real life.

Yes in real life it takes time to forget your love.

but does ur love insult u in front of ur family members and society on ur marriage day for a silly reason? when u have already proved that u can even go against ur family to fulfill ur love's wish?

if any one love a person, they will never compare their pyaar with some place , untill and unless that marriage is a mere transaction for them.

This show is poorly written with very low characterization.

EMA does happen in real life.. but not the way this show is portraying.