Preachy movies - Page 4

Lol @ the immaturity of the people who assume things about the members just because they happen to have a different opinion on something. Just because you comment on some topic doesn’t mean you are going through that particular issue yourself. It’s not like members commenting on Raj Kundra issue have gone through por* experience themselves or members commenting on marital issues of the stars were going through those things themselves.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Why do we owe allegiance to a country? Why should it not be towards the people we live our lives with and actually rely on for support, companionship, social belonging, self-actualization, and more? Why should anyone put their life on the line for an imaginary and arbitrary border artificially dividing people? If all the people can live fruitful fulfilling lives does it matter where these borders are or who controls them?

Maybe, you have great answers to all these questions and have a good reason the be patriotic. And that's great. I wish I could go back to where I felt those things and didn't question it. But for me, as I have grown older, I have become a lot more questioning of all these things like patriotism and loyalty that are considered normal and natural for all people. Like - why do we do it. And unfortunately, for me, I don't have good answers. I'm constantly in an uncomfortable state of questioning wondering - what is the meaning of it all.

I agree with you to some extent too.

I don't understand these wars and disputes over borders.

We should be more concerned about the people rather than the land.

People on loving their own country are offcourse not wrong but I've started wondering and questioning the way of reflecting or showing patriotism by wars over borders,or prioritising the land over the people.

I consider all the countries and people equal and have the same love and respect for all of them.

And it surely does not make me any less patriotic or bad citizen.

But for me the patriotic movies are over glorifying. The true other side of people's lives is mostly not shown clearly. I find them preachy.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Why do we owe allegiance to a country? Why should it not be towards the people we live our lives with and actually rely on for support, companionship, social belonging, self-actualization, and more? Why should anyone put their life on the line for an imaginary and arbitrary border artificially dividing people? If all the people can live fruitful fulfilling lives does it matter where these borders are or who controls them?

Maybe, you have great answers to all these questions and have a good reason the be patriotic. And that's great. I wish I could go back to where I felt those things and didn't question it. But for me, as I have grown older, I have become a lot more questioning of all these things like patriotism and loyalty that are considered normal and natural for all people. Like - why do we do it. And unfortunately, for me, I don't have good answers. I'm constantly in an uncomfortable state of questioning wondering - what is the meaning of it all.

So what do you think is the alternative? That there is no army? What do you think will happen to us, as a country, and you, as an individual? I mean if you have these questions then you must've thought about how it should ideally be. But remember that we don't live in an ideal world. And just because we refuse to have an army won't mean that other nations will follow suit. So, what do you think will happen then?

Originally posted by: astha36

So what do you think is the alternative? That there is no army? What do you think will happen to us, as a country, and you, as an individual? I mean if you have these questions then you must've thought about how it should ideally be. But remember that we don't live in an ideal world. And just because we refuse to have an army won't mean that other nations will follow suit. So, what do you think will happen then?

Just because I am questioning the concept of country and patriotism doesn't mean everyone has to question it. Other people do love their country. People do want to serve their country in the armed forces. I don't think loving your nation or serving the nation is inherently wrong. I'll even acknowledge soldiers when they show courage and integrity. And just like I have the right to defend my home if an intruder breaks in, I do believe countries have a right to defend themselves.

What it means is that I hold countries and their armies accountable. I believe that human life will always be more valuable than borders or patriotism. If a country abuses its military might to oppress or control others then it must be held accountable. I feel that even citizens who love their country should hold their country accountable. Just because someone joins the army doesn't mean they are automatic heroes. People can be brave in other forms. Military engineers and doctors are also risking their lives for their country in different ways. War zone journalists are selflessly risking their lives for the higher purpose of truth. And we know that the history of the military is full of raping, pillaging, torture, and all sorts of atrocities - and being a member of the armed forces means extra scrutiny to ensure honorable conduct.

And as I said, I am questioning, I don't even know if this line of thought is right or even morally justified.

Originally posted by: cutejodikangal

Bhagban is too one sided . I mean the father does tik tik on his typing machine sitting right in the middle of the house in the middle of the night but no one is supposed to say anything to him. The mom goes and talks behind her bahu to the son how bahu is not keeping an eye on their daughter, and the son is supposed to just listen to her and yell at his wife? Why can’t the parents be taught to mind their own business? Why is there no such movie?

Growing up I have seen how my grand mom used to mind her own business and if possible always helping my mom, dad and us. We all, including my mom, absolutely used to dote on her. Why can’t they make movies which teach survival tactics to the parents instead of demonizing the children?

Well, the mother was right in saying that her daughter-in-law didn't keep an eye on their daughter. She's the one who saved the brat's ass in the end, right?

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Why do we owe allegiance to a country? Why should it not be towards the people we live our lives with and actually rely on for support, companionship, social belonging, self-actualization, and more? Why should anyone put their life on the line for an imaginary and arbitrary border artificially dividing people? If all the people can live fruitful fulfilling lives does it matter where these borders are or who controls them?

Maybe, you have great answers to all these questions and have a good reason the be patriotic. And that's great. I wish I could go back to where I felt those things and didn't question it. But for me, as I have grown older, I have become a lot more questioning of all these things like patriotism and loyalty that are considered normal and natural for all people. Like - why do we do it. And unfortunately, for me, I don't have good answers. I'm constantly in an uncomfortable state of questioning wondering - what is the meaning of it all.

Because if you don't, then the country will be under attack and that will affect it's sovereignty, and if a country's sovereignty, then it's you and your family who is going to suffer. You'll be at the receiving end of all the enemy's atrocities.

Defending and serving your country is a moral duty. If not in the form of armed forces, in other forms.

Originally posted by: bollyqueen0

I remember watching a few Salman movies where he randomly announces a "good message" like about women empowerment or respecting parents. The message usually has nothing to do with the story and is so cringey 😆

Actually those films where the messages only come in a scene or 2 are better than other films where the message is spread too much with no entertainment value. The latter feels like a documentary 😴 the former is more bearable

what immediately comes to my mind is rocket singh. i had huge expectation as it came after chakde and i desperately wanted to like it , lo and behold preach preach preachy.

Originally posted by: MayaSarabhai

Bhaghban

I hope your family doesn't see this.... Phir toh jaydaad se bahar🤣

According to my Maa Baghban is impractical and she's not that into emotional stuff.

Aur Pitaji drops a tear or two for every parent who goes through this. He's like dekho tumhare bacche yeh kar denge. 😆

He's so damn independent, most times he's like I don't even need ya🤣🤣