Preachy movies - Page 3

Originally posted by: MujheMaarjaneDo

Make Way for Tomorrow, movie from 1930s.

I had never even heard of the movie. I looked it up on Wikipedia and read the plot summary. It indeed is very similar. Looks like the movie is in turn based on a novel.

I'd say most of my criticism stands. It's not as if Hollywood hasn't had its issues. The 1930s is also the Hays code era which had deeper problems.

Although, one minor issue is that in 'Make Way for Tomorrow' the parents are victims of unforeseen circumstances that render them homeless. In Baghban, the parents make a conscious decision to render them dependent on their children.

Originally posted by: InspectorShirke

All deshbhakti movies, The notion of putting country over family etc is an outdated concept. Countries change all the time, Before 1947, Pakistan and India were same, before 1971, Pakistan and Bangladesh were same. Before 1992, the Ukrainians and Russia were same. Deshbhakt movies all around the world are just money making business and thankfully US has gotten over it now.

No it hasn’t. Any movie depicting the military needs permission from Pentagon and that includes Marvel movies.

Lots of members here with Daddy and Mommy issues.

Originally posted by: Daechwita

No it hasn’t. Any movie depicting the military needs permission from Pentagon and that includes Marvel movies.

no it does not. Have you watched the Mauritanian? It calls out on the heinous activities of US army

Originally posted by: InspectorShirke

no it does not. Have you watched the Mauritanian? It calls out on the heinous activities of US army

https://www.cbr.com/captain-marvel-mcu-military-relationship/2/

No I haven’t watched the Mauritanian . I am going to guess they didn’t need actual US military equipments in the movie so they didn’t need Pentagon approval .

The Pentagon script approval is an option, not a legal mandate. If the Pentagon approves a script the military provides support to the filmmaking in terms of research, equipment, locations, and authenticity. If the film chooses to bypass Pentagon approval, the filmmakers are responsible for everything. Some of the most famous war movies like Platoon and Apocalypse Now did not have Pentagon approval.

One big difference, I have noticed living here in the United States is that there is a prolific amount of media that is very critical of the US armed forces and a lot of content that questions American military involvement. Yes, there is a lot of "Murrica, Number One" chest-thumping. But there is a lot of counter to that as well. Many Vietnam war films didn't shy away from depicting the illegal killings and mass rapes that the US army engaged in. Similarly, many movies have shown the abuse and atrocities committed in the guise of the war on terror.

There have been documented cases of the Indian army engaging in abuse, illegal kills, and rape. But depicting the army as anything but honorable heroes is unheard of. Forget the military, in today's India criticizing any aspect of the government or military is deemed anti-national. On the contrary, training for the US civil and foreign services emphasizes that the civil servant's loyalty is to the country and not to any party, individual, or post - and dissent is considered a right and duty.

Originally posted by: InspectorShirke

All deshbhakti movies, The notion of putting country over family etc is an outdated concept. Countries change all the time, Before 1947, Pakistan and India were same, before 1971, Pakistan and Bangladesh were same. Before 1992, the Ukrainians and Russia were same. Deshbhakt movies all around the world are just money making business and thankfully US has gotten over it now.

So one shouldn't put country over family according to you?

You know if all Indian soldiers protecting the country's borders started thinking like this then India would become completely defenseless.

The "She's not alone" fight sequence in Avengers: End Game is cringy and on the nose. Captain Marvel's narrative was also diluted by how on the nose it was about feminism. In terms of female action heroes, DC does a much better job. The first Wonder Woman movie managed to present a great female hero story without being blatant about feminism. Birds of Prey's final fight was a lot more enjoyable.

Jai Ho might be the preachiest movie of all time.

I dare you to count the number of times any character says "aap humein thank you mat boliye. Bas teen logon ki madad kar dijiye aur unse kahiye ki aur teen logon ko madad kare" in the entire movie.🤣

Its ridiculous.😆

One didn't need to watch a whole 2 and half hour movie to get that message.😆

Originally posted by: AwaamKiJaan

So one shouldn't put country over family according to you?

You know if all Indian soldiers protecting the country's borders started thinking like this then India would become completely defenseless.

Why do we owe allegiance to a country? Why should it not be towards the people we live our lives with and actually rely on for support, companionship, social belonging, self-actualization, and more? Why should anyone put their life on the line for an imaginary and arbitrary border artificially dividing people? If all the people can live fruitful fulfilling lives does it matter where these borders are or who controls them?

Maybe, you have great answers to all these questions and have a good reason the be patriotic. And that's great. I wish I could go back to where I felt those things and didn't question it. But for me, as I have grown older, I have become a lot more questioning of all these things like patriotism and loyalty that are considered normal and natural for all people. Like - why do we do it. And unfortunately, for me, I don't have good answers. I'm constantly in an uncomfortable state of questioning wondering - what is the meaning of it all.