Imlie ka Imlinder.. - Page 8

Originally posted by: pamk06

So true...

Malini could have had her own story arc but the writers insisted on ping pong her from mahaan to princess to meethi shuri. She was the second lead and they could have highlighted her flaws, made her realize that the demise of the relationship was inevitable, shown her anger at Aditya's lying but they kept insisting to make her mahaan. When she found the truth, being the women that she was, she should have just walked out and everyone would have applauded but they brought her back to the T's or else shown her dependence on the relationship, like they did in the past and how she does not want to let it go.The dependence was part of her character and no one would have blamed her.

Aditya lied and the reasons then were valid but she really did not need to lie or carry it for so long. KC is just her prop for her own pride and ego. They just want to make her into another iMlie who sacrifices for other happiness but there is no need. Imlie reasons to do it is inbuilt in her character but Malini could be shown selfish which would go with her character and upbringing. It would not have been wrong at all for her to not care about anything when she was betrayed. ..There were so many avenues that they could have taken her which had nothing to do with Adilie but they are just insisting on making her into this doll with no brains who is just a spare to push the Adilie's relationship forward. Frankly as you said they do not need that.. Their relationship, their issues, their characters are enough to push the story forward without her being there.

I don't know if Malini could have had any arc given that the fact they wrote her as one-dimensional character since day one......can we really call her a second lead? 😆 Even that feels mostly incidental, no? What is her claim to being the second lead? That she was in a relationship with Adi before he married Imlie? Woh toh kisi bhi third angle ka basic trope hota hai.....doesn't make them a legit lead.

@bold: LOL they aren't even trying to show Malini being another Imlie.....every sacrificing person does not become Imlie😆. Imlie's ways and reasons of doing sacrificing are unique to her character, that is why they work......her thought process is unique to her character, so it works for her character alone. No one else can be like her cuz her thought process and experiences have shaped her. Forcing a cosmopolitan, rich, city bred girl into doing these lame attempts at sacrificing looks all the more jarring.....she is not Imlie from Pagdandiya who's literally struggled for basic survival everyday of her life.

And not being sacrificial doesn't automatically make someone selfish either😆.....doing basic common sense things isn't sacrificial😆......and for a so called modern/educated woman, it would be the bare minimum for her to atleast conduct herself with dignity in the face of her broken marriage......instead she is doing all this nonsense.

Doll with no brains seems to appeal to a lot of people, man😆.....so maybe the writers do know what they are doing.....I mean just take a look around at how many people sympathize even with her current vapid attempts at bechaargi😆....not everyone seems to search for substance in a woman....good looks, sari and bechaargi are enough for many😆.

In an ideal world, they could have maybe used the opportunity to evolve Malini into someone more mature post the shock of learning the truth.....although I do feel they already eroded her character so much with nasty tamashas in the lead up to the truth reveal, that window had already closed in many ways. Still if they wanted to, they could have shown her gathering her dignity and stepping off on her own path away from the pain of her past.....instead they continue to show her as this sniveling sort of mess just lying more, doing more guilt trips, distorting things in her head to justify herself, building new delusions. So all I can take away from this is that some people are just never meant to evolve.....their destiny is to just keep remaining stuck in the same rut, without really gaining any lessons from life.

They could still have used her for drama in other ways without forcibly inserting her as a spare part into every part of Adi-Imlie's life....lol past baggage can create drama in many ways rather than being forced in like this.....still this is how the makers choose to do it so oh well😆

Originally posted by: pamk06

So true...

Malini could have had her own story arc but the writers insisted on ping pong her from mahaan to princess to meethi shuri. She was the second lead and they could have highlighted her flaws, made her realize that the demise of the relationship was inevitable, shown her anger at Aditya's lying but they kept insisting to make her mahaan. When she found the truth, being the women that she was, she should have just walked out and everyone would have applauded but they brought her back to the T's or else shown her dependence on the relationship, like they did in the past and how she does not want to let it go.The dependence was part of her character and no one would have blamed her.

Aditya lied and the reasons then were valid but she really did not need to lie or carry it for so long. KC is just her prop for her own pride and ego. They just want to make her into another iMlie who sacrifices for other happiness but there is no need. Imlie reasons to do it is inbuilt in her character but Malini could be shown selfish which would go with her character and upbringing. It would not have been wrong at all for her to not care about anything when she was betrayed. ..There were so many avenues that they could have taken her which had nothing to do with Adilie but they are just insisting on making her into this doll with no brains who is just a spare to push the Adilie's relationship forward. Frankly as you said they do not need that.. Their relationship, their issues, their characters are enough to push the story forward without her being there.

My grouse with the writers has always been the way they have written Malini's character in this story. She actually could have been the most layered and interesting characters, specifically here, because she had the scope for it. I feel out of all the three, she could have had the best arc had they given her the scope to give logical and believable reactions to situations, but the writers were too busy trying to prop her to be too ideal, so that they could build the guilt in Adi and Imlie over doing wrong towards her.

The thing is I could've accepted her shallowness and tendency to to be saccharine sweet to people around her as a personality trait. My issue is with her flip flop nature that really gets to me. She wants to be treated as an adult but will not behave like one. She reminds me of a teenager who keeps insisting that they be dealt with like adults, but cannot deal with the responsibilities of being one. The fact that she lied about KC to find out about Adilie's affair was stupid, but continuing that lie and justifying to the world ke maine kuch galat nahi kiya is beyond childish behaviour. At least have the strength to either own up to your mistakes, else make the effort to have the people close to understand your state of mind. Her calling out her parents on their hypocrisy does not make her any less of one. The least she could have said was, your society is not going to solve the proo between my husband and me, we bith are and we are doing it in the best way we can. If my husband and I are fine with our status quo, you also should not be and left it at that. Her trying to justify to her parents that she has never been a bad wife and is trying not to be a bad daughter opens a Pandora box that she herself right now is not ready to face.

Again it comes down to her characterization which could have been done better. She being the third lead makes it a given that she will be involved in Adilie's life and there will be problems due to that. But it could have been done much better. Had Malini been shown to feel betrayed or even angry at Adi and Imlie and just want to move away from them to deal with the situation on her own, she would have been a much stronger character. The fact that Imlie and Malini are step-sisters would have still given enough fodder for future drama involving the three of them.

The issue is her trying to be made a martyr in this situation which looks fake and illogical. She is inherently very selfish and self centred, so her actions continue to contradict this nature and becomes very irritating to the viewers to drum up even a smidgen of sympathy or connect for such a wishy washy character.

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

My grouse with the writers has always been the way they have written Malini's character in this story. She actually could have been the most layered and interesting characters, specifically here, because she had the scope for it. I feel out of all the three, she could have had the best arc had they given her the scope to give logical and believable reactions to situations, but the writers were too busy trying to prop her to be too ideal, so that they could build the guilt in Adi and Imlie over doing wrong towards her.

Disagree. Completely. 😆

Unless this is some FF version of Malini you are considering, there is no scenario in which she can be the "most layered" or "most interesting" character in this story. I'm going by what was shown about her since day one. Even with the potential to possibly evolve into a less clingy/dependent woman, she would not even remotely become "most interesting".

The bare minimum Malini could have managed was garnered some basic respect as a character in how she chose to evolve post after the broken marriage/learning the truth. But that alone ain't gonna make her layered or interesting.

Like take Pallavi for example....I can respect some things about her character but she isn't going to become "layered" over that.....lol Malini is in the same realm. Layering ke liye basic substance chahiye....she is mostly a vapid airhead who can't move beyond self-absorption....imagining substance in that won't make it actually happen. And then the actress in question also doesn't have the range to pull off the "layered" Malini you are imagining.

They could have made Malini's arc - stronger in the sense that she could have been respected by the audience. Instead by either making her blind (earlier episodes) or irrational (sindoor seqs) and now downright unrelatable and hypocritical to boot - they have taken away any sense of connection you can have with the character.

I have a theory - I think some mainstay actresses worry about taking a role where they are dumped for another woman or show some negative reactions - maybe they think it reduces their desirability in audience eyes??? - the makers most likely promised Malini's actor a white clean image with no negative vibes in return for playing the role...and hence came up with this unrelatable character you neither love nor hate - just find boring. In the process they hurt their main hero the most - with his character sketch - as by whitewashing her - he had to take the gunk on to himself. As far as she stays the course and does not come back to interfere in Adilie lives - I dont care where they take her story. But seeing how lacklustre the KC MAlini story is - they will come back with her interference in Adilie and I dread seeing that.

What gets me is in every one of those proliferous interviews of the actress who plays Malini - you see her ecstatic at having the role that has the most scope for growth and how well she has executed it and I am wondering what am I missing her/ What curve ? What growth. She is actually a very well spoken, gracious woman in reality - which makes her perception of whats going on in the show and her unawareness of majority of audience reaction to her is puzzling.

Originally posted by: PPak

What gets me is in every one of those proliferous interviews of the actress who plays Malini - you see her ecstatic at having the role that has the most scope for growth and how well she has executed it and I am wondering what am I missing her/ What curve ? What growth. She is actually a very well spoken, gracious woman in reality - which makes her perception of whats going on in the show and her unawareness of majority of audience reaction to her is puzzling.

The actress is welcome to operate under whatever delusions seem to suit her.....but in my opinion, GM described Malini pretty succinctly as a one-dimensional character. All other dimensions seem to exist only in the minds of the actress or those who want to imagine more to Malini than there is😆.

I guess it's a case of trying to hype something into becoming the truth....as if repeating that Malini is "the most layered, the best" will actually make it so😆....but it won't.....she is all empty air.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Disagree. Completely. 😆

Unless this is some FF version of Malini you are considering, there is no scenario in which she can be the "most layered" or "most interesting" character in this story. I'm going by what was shown about her since day one. Even with the potential to possibly evolve into a less clingy/dependent woman, she would not even remotely become "most interesting".

The bare minimum Malini could have managed was garnered some basic respect as a character in how she chose to evolve post after the broken marriage/learning the truth. But that alone ain't gonna make her layered or interesting.

Like take Pallavi for example....I can respect some things about her character but she isn't going to become "layered" over that.....lol Malini is in the same realm. Layering ke liye basic substance chahiye....she is mostly a vapid airhead who can't move beyond self-absorption....imagining substance in that won't make it actually happen. And then the actress in question also doesn't have the range to pull off the "layered" Malini you are imagining.

So true... She could not be layered based on what they showed her as since day one. They made her one dimensional character but she could have got tiny bit respect if she could have picked up the pieces of her life and tried to forge her path forward ,learning to live without the dependence on Aditya who had been her security blanket for so long. Her tameshas can not be overlooked, i mean that is inbuilt in her but keeping the KC truth alive still shows that she wants to be entangled in Adilie's life. Unless finding a rebound partner is the way to handle heartbreak is what makers are trying to show here

I really thought that they would show some kind of growth in her after the truth reveal but lying was definitely not what I envision her doing it just for the sake of it. She was a pampered princess who always wanted to be a center of attention but learning and accepting that you cannot be the center always would have been something. May be a convo with Aditya where they both accept that there relationship was only attraction (from Aditya's side) and no understanding (not even enough for the epic dosti that they claimm 😛) and give a quiet exit for the time being. Its not that there is not enough drama pending in Adilie life that they need Malini to create it. But i guess, makers do not want to give us reprieve from her or are keeping both fan groups happy.

Originally posted by: pamk06

So true... She could not be layered based on what they showed her as since day one. They made her one dimensional character but she could have got tiny bit respect if she could have picked up the pieces of her life and tried to forge her path forward ,learning to live without the dependence on Aditya who had been her security blanket for so long. Her tameshas can not be overlooked, i mean that is inbuilt in her but keeping the KC truth alive still shows that she wants to be entangled in Adilie's life. Unless finding a rebound partner is the way to handle heartbreak is what makers are trying to show here

I really thought that they would show some kind of growth in her after the truth reveal but lying was definitely not what I envision her doing it just for the sake of it. She was a pampered princess who always wanted to be a center of attention but learning and accepting that you cannot be the center always would have been something. May be a convo with Aditya where they both accept that there relationship was only attraction (from Aditya's side) and no understanding (not even enough for the epic dosti that they claimm 😛) and give a quiet exit for the time being. Its not that there is not enough drama pending in Adilie life that they need Malini to create it. But i guess, makers do not want to give us reprieve from her or are keeping both fan groups happy.

@bold: That's the reason there can't be any growth....cuz she can't even accept the basic fact that she is a pampered princess😆.....nor can anyone else in this story accept that it seems. They all just constantly worship her like a Queen or constantly victimize her like she's just a passive observer in her own life and things just happen to her and everyone around her is her gunehgaar😆.

With this basic mindset, growth is unlikely na. Everyone seems to think that just cuz she acts sweet in general, she isn't a pampered/entitled princess.....but she very much is.....she is coddled by everyone and she continues to cling to that coddling only.....doesn't seem to have any capability of viewing herself beyond that. If the truth reveal couldn't jolt her out of this, nothing can. But all the truth reveal did was increase her sense of self-victimization.....no recognition of her privilege or entitlement.....

I was saying this to Fary earlier today that all Malini had to do in the aftermath of the truth reveal was definitively tell Imlie that SHE doesn't want to be with Adi cuz there is no love in that relationship and she doesn't want to be with a man who doesn't consider her his wife only😆......if she had said it definitively, her pride would have been saved then also and the sympathy she so desperately craves - woh bhi mil jaati ise😆. Instead she was wishy washy about her answers to Imlie always.....always leaving the door ajar to guilt trip kabhi Imlie and kabhi Adi.....she is totally unable to close that door cuz that's her personality.....even as she tries to put on the act of "moving on", her every action has been wishy washy enough for Imlie to suspect that she doesn't mean it when she says she's past all this.....and that is why Imlie also falls prey to the guilt trip cycle ki haaye bechaari Didi doesn't really want this relationship to end. Malini totally lacks that conviction in wanting to end the relationship....she just makes strange bechaargi waale ya grudges waale faces....but you never see that sense of quiet dignity/fierceness that should be there in a person who's gone through her situation.

Malini has only one purpose in this story.....to hang around like a spare part and guilt trip people😆.....she dresses it all up in nautanki bechaargi but the basic core is just to play that incidental part in the lives of the rest of the characters....ki bhoolna mat, main bhi hoon.....baaki she is incapable of doing anything else in life😆

As for keeping other fan group happy....LMAO if there are people STILL shipping AM after all this🤣....what to say.....ROFL so what are they shipping? These scraps of dosti that Adi tosses Malini's way? 😆.....ismein se logon ko feelz mil rahe hain? ROFL ok then😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

As for keeping other fan group happy....LMAO if there are people STILL shipping AM after all this🤣....what to say.....ROFL so what are they shipping? These scraps of dosti that Adi tosses Malini's way? 😆.....ismein se logon ko feelz mil rahe hain? ROFL ok then😆

Could not stop myself from ghusoing

That other fan group is as delusional as didi’s character and as old as her mental age of all of 10 years. They oscillate between Aditya and Kunal so randomly that even a pendulum can be put to shame. But one thing is constant - Malini is pretty much the only victim at any point in the story. The appreciation she got for the scene with the other losers - my god. It was as though she had already stepped out on her own and bought a place or something.

At the core however they just spread awful awful vitriol about Imlie alone.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

Could not stop myself from ghusoing

That other fan group is as delusional as didi’s character and as old as her mental age of all of 10 years. They oscillate between Aditya and Kunal so randomly that even a pendulum can be put to shame. But one thing is constant - Malini is pretty much the only victim at any point in the story. The appreciation she got for the scene with the other losers - my god. It was as though she had already stepped out on her own and bought a place or something.

At the core however they just spread awful awful vitriol about Imlie alone.

Me too ghusooing khadak Singh from here pheri style

Oh pehle nikalne toh do🤣😎

But you see this is what is all that gets hailed Khali baatein and khalli bartano ka khadhakna actions se koi lena dena hai nahi but baatein kara lo badi badi and ussi pe sab wah wah loot lo . End main wohi loser ke loser as DC himself said ke dafah kahan hona hai last ke bhudhu ghar hi aayenge

Originally posted by: MuteButton

Could not stop myself from ghusoing

That other fan group is as delusional as didi’s character and as old as her mental age of all of 10 years. They oscillate between Aditya and Kunal so randomly that even a pendulum can be put to shame. But one thing is constant - Malini is pretty much the only victim at any point in the story. The appreciation she got for the scene with the other losers - my god. It was as though she had already stepped out on her own and bought a place or something.

At the core however they just spread awful awful vitriol about Imlie alone.

Actually I put Didi's mental age more in the toddler zone, toh 10 years would actually be way older for her😆

LOL if her fans still want her to go back to Adi even after all this🤣.....bless their souls.....phir toh beizzati ko khud invitation dene waali baat hai.....theek hai phir bhai....lage rahein....Adi karta rahega apne tareeke se chop😆

Haha chalo good if she feels being hailed for these token pushback scenes against her parents proves the "layers" of her character....dil ko behlaane ke liye khayaal achhe hain, Ghalib😆

Reality toh yehi hai ki she is also a Loservedi only😆.....even if she tries to act like she's above them.....lol

Baaki toh KC dikhaayega ise "safe" nazaare since she CHOSE him na😆