Why is raavi asking this ? - Page 3

raavi chose this for herself. she needs to remember that for good. nobody forced her to stay married to shiva. infact she married shiva because of her family but still it was not shiva who forced her to marry. after marriage also shiva kept no expectations from her and raavi lording over him saying that she respects his family and what not is ludicrous. Dhara might have thousands of flaws but she cant be compared to mami. also raavi respects and loves dhara because of herself not because she is shiva's family. so she needs to cut the crap about that. The damage mami has done to pandya family is irreversible and yet suman gave permission for raavi-dev marriage and that was huge but that doesnt mean suman forgave her for causing her husband's death. suman was moving on for sake of her children. I just hope shiva doesnt lose himself and stays the way he is at his core. He should not be toned down just because makers are interested in making a mandir for elders. what is wrong is wrong and that applies to elders too. pata nahi indian society ke dimaag mein yeh baat kab ghusegi. Mami has not done anything to deserve shiva's respect infact she doesnt deserve anything so raavi needs to stop her maasi jaap. if she wants to respect her so be it but if shiva has not put any expectations from her so she shouldnt either and even if shiva did put expectations, she needs to wake up and realize the gravity of mami's actions and consequences and also that respect is earned. free ke prasaad ki tarah nahi baata jaata use. Mami has not even repented for her actions and yet raavi wants her to be respected just because she is her maasi? seriously?

I don't think Raavi is wrong to ask that. What is her fault in all of this? She didn't force Maami to do what she did in the past, and if Shiva isn't angry with his own Mumma, his blood relative, who is also related to Maami and kind of let her do all of this, how and why is he holding so much contempt for Raavi?

Raavi shouldn't be responsible for fixing the relationship between the others. And she has spoke to Maami several times, quite strongly. What else is she supposed to do? Curse her out? Shun her from her life? Even Suman didn't do that out of respect to her brother. You would never see Dev, Shiva, Krish speak that way to Suman or Dhara or Gaumbi even if they were wrong (i.e. beating scandal) - so why is everyone expecting Raavi to do more than she already has? Yah Maami did terrible things, and that's why Raavi constantly defends Shiva & Pandya family over Maami all the time. I rarely ever actually see her take her mausi's side. I don't even think she really expects Shiva to like Maami, but he didn't need to do what he did. She just wants him to deal with her in a more relationship-respectful way. He didn't need to come after her with a knife. I said this in another thread, if he had that many issues with her, he should've filed a civil suit against her for damages and sent her to jail.

Pandya fam is willing to look past Maami's actions enough for Raavi's sake - they've shown this time and time again. So, if the rest of the family can do that for Raavi and not hold her personally accountable for the actions of her Maami, what is Shiva's problem still? As a kid, I get it. But he's an adult now, and he's married to Raavi. And unless he's secretly thinking of divorcing her, he's going to eventually have to let go of the bias he has against her, even if he never has romantic feelings for her (which I know he will but he doesn't know he will lol).

Originally posted by: fria319

I don't think Raavi is wrong to ask that. What is her fault in all of this? She didn't force Maami to do what she did in the past, and if Shiva isn't angry with his own Mumma, his blood relative, who is also related to Maami and kind of let her do all of this, how and why is he holding so much contempt for Raavi?

Therez a difference. Anita and mami's truth was out on the day of gombi Anita wedding . However mausa has always spoken against prafulla , try to knock sense in her while raavi has mostly laughed it off and ignored her actions.

Raavi is def not the best judge of character (otherwise she won't be that desperate to marry dev and in pandya family) , she can be gullible at times like she was today . Prafulla provokes Shiva deliberately and then badmouth him. After hearing it from prafulla her karamkaand, if raavi couldn't judge Shiva correctly then she needs to work more n try to fix things smartly.

Originally posted by: _charu_

Therez a difference. Anita and mami's truth was out on the day of gombi Anita wedding . However mausa has always spoken against prafulla , try to knock sense in her while raavi has mostly laughed it off and ignored her actions.

Raavi is def not the best judge of character (otherwise she won't be that desperate to marry dev and in pandya family) , she can be gullible at times like she was today . Prafulla provokes Shiva deliberately and then badmouth him. After hearing it from prafulla her karamkaand, if raavi couldn't judge Shiva correctly then she needs to work more n try to fix things smartly.

I agree she’s not the best judge of character. She’s the most optimistic one in the show. Always seeing and trying to see the best in people. That naïveté does cause her to be gullible.

But, I still think she has the right to wonder why Shiva places his anger of Maami onto her and why he still can’t separate the two. His anger towards Raavi is misplaced now more so than ever before.

Even if Raavi took things lightly before - she’s not now. She’s speaking quite clearly to Maami and defending Shiva and entire PF. He actively chose to marry her just as much she actively chose to marry him. He knew Maami was part of that package.

It’s not Raavi’s responsibility to understand his now irrational anger towards her. He needs to understand that Raavi is not Maami.

Idk, IMO, defending Shiva in this particular instance and placing it on Raavi to understand him vs needing him to understand his own misplaced feelings is (IMO) a bit too much like excusing Shiva’s behavior as if pulling a knife on anyone is ok or that manhandling is ok just because of his family trauma. Doesn’t matter what anyone says to you, I don’t think resorting to physical threats is ok and I think that’s the place Raavi was speaking from.

Originally posted by: fria319

I agree she’s not the best judge of character. She’s the most optimistic one in the show. Always seeing and trying to see the best in people. That naïveté does cause her to be gullible.

But, I still think she has the right to wonder why Shiva places his anger of Maami onto her and why he still can’t separate the two. His anger towards Raavi is misplaced now more so than ever before.

Even if Raavi took things lightly before - she’s not now. She’s speaking quite clearly to Maami and defending Shiva and entire PF. He actively chose to marry her just as much she actively chose to marry him. He knew Maami was part of that package.

It’s not Raavi’s responsibility to understand his now irrational anger towards her. He needs to understand that Raavi is not Maami.

Idk, IMO, defending Shiva in this particular instance and placing it on Raavi to understand him vs needing him to understand his own misplaced feelings is (IMO) a bit too much like excusing Shiva’s behavior as if pulling a knife on anyone is ok or that manhandling is ok just because of his family trauma. Doesn’t matter what anyone says to you, I don’t think resorting to physical threats is ok and I think that’s the place Raavi was speaking from.

I see it differently. Shiva was not angry on her at all. He just stopped her from Interfering a bit more loudly and angrily. Yes putting a knife on mami was wrong , no matter what the provocation was...

Yes raavi has been vocal about mami but in shivas absence. How is he supposed to know? His insecurities and fear which leads him to dislike raavi is the main thing between them..its the bridge they have to cross together.... he needs reassurance that raavi is different from mami and he will get it slowly. That's their journey together .

Today also she needed to be told that prafulla made ther video otherwise she was still sympathizing with mami n feelin that she is being insulted ainvayi. Again..Shiva was absent.

Anyways, my only question was why is raavi acting so dense , when she saw everything with her own eyes , why is she asking Shiva to respect mami..stupid writing I guess...

i understand her asking till when she is going to be hurt by him for no fault of hers and all the mistakes of her mami....

but she is wrong in forcing him to respect mami........anita and mami deserves anything but respect .........cordial bhi nahi reh sakte uske saath....backstabbing bi.......

coz of dem his father died and they had nothing ......and they didnt go to raavi to make any relation......she forced her self to be in the family......but it turned out poorly....😕

his and her family are way different....and didnt she know what would happen when her dream of being pandya bahu will be fulfilled.........she will have to chose a side coz her mami will create such circumstances......

he has never hated raavi but is scared that she might turn out to be like mami......just my pov

I wish Raavi said to him: Stay away from Maami. I know she is wrong but she raised me and loves me. But since there is clearly no room left for respect, too much has already happened, Maami and Shiva should be kept away from each other.