Is he worthy? - Page 3

Something just suddenly popped up in my mind about your 'man' comment. I am reminded of one episode of Satyamev Jayate. Laxmi, the acid victim (survivor) had come there with her husband and tells Aamir Khan and the audience that when she used to go to the court, the perpetrator (if my mind serves me right) and his wife, used to look at her like she was the one who wronged them. And the more shocking thing is that I wasn't even shocked. People support their own wrong doings and do side with their own people, even when they know they are wrong. They refuse to admit it, even to themselves.

I don't know if its gender specific though.

Originally posted by: Ilovecoffee

Keeping Didi ki beizzati aside but i have one serious question. Why do we let men to get away so easily with everything?

I know the scenes of virat sai romance are cute n all but still can i dare to ask if he is man any woman would want.

He who promised a girl that he gonna love her forever but breaks his promise. Yes promise was stupid still he broke it.

He who promised a dying man to take care of his daughter in every situation, throw out the same girl on streets in middle of the night.

He who ignored the pukeworthy attitude of his family towards his mother.

He who himself asked Sai to behave for tit for tat attitude to his family members but then call her ill mannered.

He who knows that his father and uncle do not do anything without their bhabhi but he did not doubt any of them for one second let alone punished.

He who manhandled his wife in front of his whole family.

N this list is never ending....

N indian tv shows us two educated females quarreling over this man like hell.

No matter what they do now but as a character Virat is a failure. This just reconfirms our own pathetic pancountry attitude in which a man gets away with all his ill deeds just because he is a man n feeling sorry 🤐🤐🤐

Let's awwwwwwwwwwwww now

Bold :- makers change d trend they r proving women can get away anything she does by making ML do something more worse , it will cover kaand of FL.

Virat ko half redemption to mil raha hai sai ka redemption to ghum hai or kabhi milega bhi nhi coz sai breaking virat's trust is so cool & mahaan she can get away with any nonsense she does why coz she is 18 yrs.👏👏

This serial is actually setting example breaking or playing someone's trust is small mistake .

Real people don't tolerate dhokebaaz or backstabber in their lives.

My only question why can't sai just leave virat & find her worthy man what & who is stopping her .

A small spark leads to fire , galti chhoti or badi nhi hoti galti har haal mein galti hoti hai.

I support virat is unworthy of sai.

He is so not worth it...without even the Patralkha and Sai angle...forget about the romance angle...Virat as a character is a bad son and a bad brother and a very bad police officer.

He never stands up for his mother who gets treated anyhow. WEAK

He let his mentally unwell sister get locked in rooms and never spoke out about it. Granted he was not around when she got ill but once he got back from his training and was now a full fledged police officer....he didn't bother to get her seen by a proper DR and tolorated what they did to her in the house.

As a police officer he believed a letter and didn't carry out any investigation and now wuth all that has come to light regardless of the outcome he should really look into Devi Tai's wedding as time and time again they have said he mental state is that of a child....he should really varify that being married is the best for her anf that she is not being taken advantage of.

Also his family has commited crimes and he just let it slide...like he found out his uncle forged official documents, bribed someone and almost got a man falsely arrested and all he could say was lets end the matter here.

He also knows DeviTai and Pulkhit have a daughter...but has not bothered to find out anything about this (granted the writers seem to throw in the child as an after thought).

Overall he is rash to come to conclusions....blows hot and cold, can not control his anger. Does not think things through or analyse situations and a terrible people reader so not worthy 😆

Originally posted by: _charu_

There r diff layers to this..forgiveness is personal. Some forgive some may not. And they may have their reasons. And no outsider can judge it .... ...in real life too , a lot of men are forgiven for far worse things than virat...we weigh the pros and cons and decide..

we forget that reel is very different and we r able to form a judgment bec we r watching it as a whole..we know things which the characters also don't know. Like virat doesn't know pakhi faked that letter , he doesn't know chavans planned kidnapping , but we know... ...virat didn't know sai was right and pulkit is a good guy, sai knew virat was brain washed ...so on and so forth.

this isn't a drama about empowerment , the purpose of this show is not even close to the movie thappad...here the leads come together and separate and family drama and bickering fetches trps. They don't care abt anything else. Sai coming bk to virat will not be seen as bad by the audience bec a lot of women forgive. Again, it's neither good nor bad , it's personal.

Virat has all these problems which were mentioned , n all very difficult to adjust with. So , sai will be taking an informed decision to go bk ..I can't blame her for that..the way she reacted with the news of virat getting shot, she cares a big deal for him . So..is he worthy? No. Is he worthy for sai? She will decide.

Agree with what you have written, I agree. I was typing a reply but it is Sunday toh aan chuti le li 🤣🤣. Will see if I can finish my draft and will try to tag you. It is similar to what you have written.

@bold that is what I thought too 😊

Originally posted by: A4Anjie

I raised that point couple of times. It is very common ....In all itv shows..

Just because virat has moved on (?), now all the blame on pp.... I know she behaves like it.... still virat's vaada is cause of all these nonsense he is dealing with...

is not only because Virat has moved on that the blame has come on Pakhi. The reason for which she married Virat was wrong. If she didn't want to move on, she could have chosen to not get married, her Dad had also said that he will support her decision and even asked her not to get married. She had her own reasons for it. Virat was at fault since he didn't fight for his love, he chose his brother's happiness. Just imagine, if he had chosen his love, we would have all said how selfish he was that he had forgotten all the years with his family, his brother and chose a girl whom he had just met, knew for just 2 days.

Sorry to say but Virat had told Pakhi that I hope you will attend the Sangeet, the decision was left to her.

If he is really out of that attraction mode (???) ..... what is stopping him to call her vahini /aap ??? just like mohit addresses sai !

Whatever Virat is doing for Pakhi is out of goodwill and he has no feelings or attraction towards Pakhi.

I am still trying to figure that out. I used to think that he might have thought that she might feel insulted and that he wasn't respecting their past if he called her like that. I am not sure. Virat wouldn't have spoken whatever he spoke on the night Pakhi and him had a confrontation if Pakhi had not crossed a line. She pushed him to speak a lot of things so that she is brought back to reality and so that she takes his words very seriously.

Otherwise, it always looked as though he was respecting her as his past, was acting empathetic towards her feelings, her loss, considerate to the fact that she honoured his request and married his brother. Guilt wasn't the only reason he spoke to her from GC, when she used to call him, it was out of courtesy, so that she doesn't feel insulted if he ignores her calls or if he stops talking to her. For some in the position of Pakhi, it would look like they are drawing lines, some could also get offended that they don't trust them. So in this case, he didn't want Pakhi to think that he doesn't trust that she has moved on, didn't want Pakhi to think that he doubts her feelings or motives behind her calling him up, he always had trust in her that she is a very matured and an understanding person. I have a doubt if the same is probably the reason why he refrains himself from calling her Wahini.

What is stopping him.... to announce loud and clear in front of CN animals.... warn them.... do not send pp for his work.... ever!

Does he know that she is being sent by them? Not all times. Also, he is plain stupid, always caught up with some emotions for his wife when Pakhi comes to their room, be it love or disappointment or insecurity or anger or admiration.

Why is he not talking to pp parents about their daughter being delusional and stepping in his private space always ...even after repeated clarifications / denials !!!!!!!!!!

Again, I think he just doesn't want Pakhi to get humiliated. If you had noticed, after Sai spoke about Pakhi and his relationship in front if everyone on the day Sai was visiting PD, Virat apologised to Pakhi on Sai's behalf. It is like a girl's honour was questioned. His character could have also been questioned if anyone wanted, but he is a person who would think for the other person and not himself. When Sai asked Kaku if she is trying to link Virat and Pakhi due to the reason that they are not even sure if Samrat would return or not, Virat first felt bad that she spoke about Samrat like that, that is a sensitive subject for him and she casually said that his return is not even guaranteed. In the same way, his first thought was how would have Pakhi felt, he knew that she would have felt humiliated. Isn't it natural? If Sai wasn't a good person, if we do not support Sai, and if Pakhi wasn't a bad person, we would have felt bad for Pakhi after what what Sai spoke.

That is exactly what Virat felt. He not just felt bad for Pakhi, he didn't give whatever Sai spoke much of a weightage only because he knows that Sai is a person who is good at heart and that she has just misunderstood everything. If he didn't think that way, he would have made that too a big issue after Sai returned from PDs house. That shows how much understanding he has been towards Sai too.

So, coming back to your question, Virat doesn't want Pakhi to feel insulted. He knows that she would hate herself one day, she herself won't be able to meet her eyes on the mirror when she realises what she has been doing. He just doesn't want to take some harsh decisions now, thinking and hoping that she will change her ways.

I am not saying that this is right, he is just underestimating Pakhi's feelings or obsession for him. As they say, some people will only learn from their mistakes. He might have to pay a heavy price to be ignoring this thinking, that he is letting these activities of Pakhi go.

in another top rating show also....I mentioned that .... between two wives (yes) .... why they keep debating who is right and who has right on husband always???.... why no one points out who is NOT right at all (a criminal goes scotch free) !!!!!!!!!!

Have replied in green.

Originally posted by: Ilovecoffee

Keeping Didi ki beizzati aside but i have one serious question. Why do we let men to get away so easily with everything?

I know the scenes of virat sai romance are cute n all but still can i dare to ask if he is man any woman would want.

He who promised a girl that he gonna love her forever but breaks his promise. Yes promise was stupid still he broke it.

He who promised a dying man to take care of his daughter in every situation, throw out the same girl on streets in middle of the night.

He who ignored the pukeworthy attitude of his family towards his mother.

He who himself asked Sai to behave for tit for tat attitude to his family members but then call her ill mannered.

He who knows that his father and uncle do not do anything without their bhabhi but he did not doubt any of them for one second let alone punished.

He who manhandled his wife in front of his whole family.

N this list is never ending....

N indian tv shows us two educated females quarreling over this man like hell.

No matter what they do now but as a character Virat is a failure. This just reconfirms our own pathetic pancountry attitude in which a man gets away with all his ill deeds just because he is a man n feeling sorry 🤐🤐🤐

Let's awwwwwwwwwwwww now

Unpopular opinion. I've been brought up with the mentality that if someone realises his mistake and is ready to rectify it, you should forgive him. Nobody is perfect. And the questions you raise are valid, but I think you should see them in context. Real life isn't that black and white. Yes, Virat not supporting Aai? Him not helping Tai? Valid questions, but it has alot to do with his upbringing and I think he's to some context unaware of everything (he came to know that they didn't let his Aai study only on Sai's admission day, he believes Cgang blindly about whatever they told him about Tai etc). And I've seen this happening in real life. Someone I know used to adore his father, but it's only after reaching his 30's that he realized how pathetic his father's behaviour with his mom was. Another thing I've seen happening in real life, the children speak up, but the mother herself doesn't wants it (different valid reasons from her point of view) so what do you do in that situation(I know it's not the case here, a bit off topic)

He's good at heart, and for me that's what matters most. I also feel most of the problems wouldn't be there if they just communicated properly! I definitely feel he should be more bold like Sai regarding his family and that he should open his eyes.

In real life, me being in Sai's place? I don't know, thinking that he doesn't love me, I wouldn't return to such a toxic place (well after getting to know he got shot I would but just like Sai I'd stay only for him and till he doesn't get healthy). Knowing that he loves me? I'd probably forgive him and go back to CN.

So is he worthy? I don't know. If I let my 🧠 speak, I'd say probably not coz he's not capable of seeing his family's truth and speaking up against his family (main reason for me). If I let my ♥ speak, yes as he's good at heart.

As far as him being abusive? I don't know either. Him manhandling (day before Maha Shivratri), he really realised his mistake and he worked on it. His guilt has been brought up on different occasions, I'd forgive that probably. Him throwing her out? Probably after seeing him rectifying his mistake yes. Only time I'd not able to forgive him is during alta track, when he instructed Karishma to drag Sai down, as he never realized his mistake (it was really brushed off). And also there's a limit to everything. So yeah I actually don't know.

In red: he supports her when she speaks up rightly, but there's a thin line between being bold and being rude. Sometimes Sai does cross that line (which I don't mind at all bcoz CNgang deserves it), but in real life or even from Virat's point of view, I understand him calling her out.

And yes indian television, after a whole day studying I usually don't have enough braincells left so the episodes are a good relief, but yeah true ITV's standard is kinda low.

Originally posted by: A4Anjie

I raised that point couple of times. It is very common ....In all itv shows..

Just because virat has moved on (?), now all the blame on pp.... I know she behaves like it.... still virat's vaada is cause of all these nonsense he is dealing with...

If he is really out of that attraction mode (???) ..... what is stopping him to call her vahini /aap ??? just like mohit addresses sai !

Yaar theek hai Vaada kiya tha..koi bheesma pratigya toh nai ki thi. 🤣 Ppl change with time..probably if pakhi gave a chance to samrat, she would fall in love with him ....there r so many times ppl say something but circumstances lead them.somewhere else and they have to eat their words n backtrack. Same will happen with sai ......virat ne vaada kiya ke nai, the present truth is , that he wants to be with his wife so any self.respecting woman would let go , not cling onto him in the worst possible way...virat is not insulting her , she is insulting herself

Originally posted by A4Anjie

I raised that point couple of times. It is very common ....In all itv shows..

Just because virat has moved on (?), now all the blame on pp.... I know she behaves like it.... still virat's vaada is cause of all these nonsense he is dealing with...

is not only because Virat has moved on that the blame has come on Pakhi. The reason for which she married Virat was wrong. If she didn't want to move on, she could have chosen to not get married, her Dad had also said that he will support her decision and even asked her not to get married. She had her own reasons for it. Virat was at fault since he didn't fight for his love, he chose his brother's happiness. Just imagine, if he had chosen his love, we would have all said how selfish he was that he had forgotten all the years with his family, his brother and chose a girl whom he had just met, knew for just 2 days.

Sorry to say but Virat had told Pakhi that I hope you will attend the Sangeet, the decision was left to her.

Yes, pp needs treatment for her delusions - still somehow ... virat indirectly wished for.... pp-samrat marrige, otherwise he would disclose to samrat (if not whole family)!

He kept giving clarifications like he owes his life to pp, fueling her delusions after samrat-pp wedding continuously !

If he is really out of that attraction mode (???) ..... what is stopping him to call her vahini /aap ??? just like mohit addresses sai !

Whatever Virat is doing for Pakhi is out of goodwill and he has no feelings or attraction towards Pakhi.

I am still trying to figure that out. I used to think that he might have thought that she might feel insulted and that he wasn't respecting their past if he called her like that. I am not sure. Virat wouldn't have spoken whatever he spoke on the night Pakhi and him had a confrontation if Pakhi had not crossed a line. She pushed him to speak a lot of things so that she is brought back to reality and so that she takes his words very seriously.

Otherwise, it always looked as though he was respecting her as his past, was acting empathetic towards her feelings, her loss, considerate to the fact that she honoured his request and married his brother. Guilt wasn't the only reason he spoke to her from GC, when she used to call him, it was out of courtesy, so that she doesn't feel insulted if he ignores her calls or if he stops talking to her. For some in the position of Pakhi, it would look like they are drawing lines, some could also get offended that they don't trust them. So in this case, he didn't want Pakhi to think that he doesn't trust that she has moved on, didn't want Pakhi to think that he doubts her feelings or motives behind her calling him up, he always had trust in her that she is a very matured and an understanding person. I have a doubt if the same is probably the reason why he refrains himself from calling her Wahini.

That means - there is still something left.... what ever it was/is... guilt/attraction/infatuation... It is NOT completely over.... he has to close that chapter before starts afresh with sai.

What is stopping him.... to announce loud and clear in front of CN animals.... warn them.... do not send pp for his work.... ever!

Does he know that she is being sent by them? Not all times. Also, he is plain stupid, always caught up with some emotions for his wife when Pakhi comes to their room, be it love or disappointment or insecurity or anger or admiration.

He knew that pp was stopping sai and 'ghar ke bade' appointed pp as his nurse.... overnight!

Why is he not talking to pp parents about their daughter being delusional and stepping in his private space always ...even after repeated clarifications / denials !!!!!!!!!!

Again, I think he just doesn't want Pakhi to get humiliated. If you had noticed, after Sai spoke about Pakhi and his relationship in front if everyone on the day Sai was visiting PD, Virat apologised to Pakhi on Sai's behalf. It is like a girl's honour was questioned. His character could have also been questioned if anyone wanted, but he is a person who would think for the other person and not himself. When Sai asked Kaku if she is trying to link Virat and Pakhi due to the reason that they are not even sure if Samrat would return or not, Virat first felt bad that she spoke about Samrat like that, that is a sensitive subject for him and she casually said that his return is not even guaranteed. In the same way, his first thought was how would have Pakhi felt, he knew that she would have felt humiliated. Isn't it natural? If Sai wasn't a good person, if we do not support Sai, and if Pakhi wasn't a bad person, we would have felt bad for Pakhi after what what Sai spoke.

That is exactly what Virat felt. He not just felt bad for Pakhi, he didn't give whatever Sai spoke much of a weightage only because he knows that Sai is a person who is good at heart and that she has just misunderstood everything. If he didn't think that way, he would have made that too a big issue after Sai returned from PDs house. That shows how much understanding he has been towards Sai too.

So, coming back to your question, Virat doesn't want Pakhi to feel insulted. He knows that she would hate herself one day, she herself won't be able to meet her eyes on the mirror when she realises what she has been doing. He just doesn't want to take some harsh decisions now, thinking and hoping that she will change her ways.

I am not saying that this is right, he is just underestimating Pakhi's feelings or obsession for him. As they say, some people will only learn from their mistakes. He might have to pay a heavy price to be ignoring this thinking, that he is letting these activities of Pakhi go.

If virat dose NOT want pp to get insulted/humiliated... that is what he is pushing her to indirectly. He has to block any possibilities ... of those delusions...

If he is not working toward correcting her... not taking help of her parents/doctors... not actions/delusions... he is sending her to more and more humiliations

Originally posted by: vimeo

Hey, so you are not the only one who had compared jndsd to this. Except that there the FL marries her lovers bro but still keeps physical relationship with her lover. It was a few levels above this in terms of abusing relationships!! And bcoz it was FL all was maaf! At least here Virat has no such relationship with his bhabhi or vahini/and has no intention to keeping such a

relationship alive.

But I agree Virat has to be more point blank in addressing this devar-bhabhi relationship, otherwise its pointless for Sai to return!!

Why are you bringing jnsd in this. Vividha did not know about ravish being athrava's brother when she married him. Let us not forget how she was forced to marry the other man because of her father who held her lover's life at gunpoint to make her marry. I will never bash vividha or jnsd because the fl did not fall in love with her husband and walked away from the marriage which was forced on her when it was the right time. Not to forget athrav was a very progressive man who believed in equality and gave vividha strength instead of breaking it.

Virat as a character he is going to make more blunders and I'm going to not enjoy it. Sairat will never become toxic because unlike other dormat heroines sai actually will make virat realize his fault whenever he commits mistakes. She will not easily accept manhandling. It is other thing she would always come back to him. I just watch this drama for sairat and sai's character.

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

I might be in the minority on this forum but I absolutely loved it when Atharva Vividha got back together in JNDSD or Riddhima and Armaan in DMG. (Both the FLs were married under duress, unlike Pakhi here, and as much as I respect the sanctity of marriage, true love doesn't fade away just because you will it to. Not that I condone cheating in any way in real life). And I think if you look at the forums of those shows, there were people rooting for both the sides, no matter whether the FL or ML were flawed or not.

This is where GHKKPM failed, mostly for Aishwarya. Without any concrete basis for Virat and Pakhi's love story, Virat's vaada comes off as a joke. If you compare this to Virat's vaada made to his love of a few years who had as deep of a relationship as the couples mentioned above, people would have been far more critical of Virat and more forgiving of Pakhi. Which is what I think Aishwarya expected - a love triangle where Pakhi is the one wronged, so there would be people rooting for her, and which is why the FD's dislike of her is a bitter pill to swallow for her.

Coming to Virat - his inability to speak up for his wife and mother is very very frustrating. His promise, his stupidity, even if everything is overlooked, it's the first flaw which annoys everyone. A lot of his faults are ignored because the actor is well liked and has his own fan following. Rest are ignored because it builds up for quite some drama for a few months, after which he can shout once and bring up the TRP.

Would someone like Sai want such a man as her husband in RL ? Nope,

Would I want someone like Sai to be married to such a man in RL? Nope.

Do I want Sai and Virat to be together in the show? Yup.

It doesn't mean I liked her or Atharva. Atharva, I never cared for much.

But Vividha is among the few fictional characters that I abhor (yes, I did use the word abhor) I also disliked her Sujata Chachi (the hypocrite😆)

I hated Vividha for different reasons. Her insensitivity towards others, especially Ravish put me off. Her hypocrisy put me off and so did the humiliation that Ravish got from her despite doing so much for her. I absolutely abhorred her in one scene when she insulted Ravish saying vardi ke sath sath himmat bhi utar kar fenk di hai kya. That was disgusting.

Virat's inability to speak up for his wife and mother remind me of why I hated Ravish. What a pushover. He could never speak up for himself nor did he stand up for his mother. I hated him when he made his mother keep the woman who cheated her in her home. Also when he let her murderer go Scot free.

About Virat Patralekha, I don't know if people would still be forgiving of Patralekha. I don't want to compare the two shows, but your sentence immediately brought another show to my mind😆in Imlie, Malini is hated for her mere existence and her smallest of actions are magnified to justify the male lead there and they had a relationship of seven years. Do I'm not really sure🤔

A third angle is always hated in a couple whether justified or not 🤷