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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM


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This is his point, if everyone or even one person feels that polygamy is wrong regardless of the Era then they can also understand that Child marriage is wrong. If people want him to accept a child as his bride because the time was such that Child marriage was the norm then he is going to be your regular male, for whom multiple marriages were allowed and infidelity was not a thing.

That's what he said to Bon, if she wants a regular marriage and act like an Adarsh patni, he'd be a regular husband. He wants to annul their marriage and free her from the shackles of child marriage, how's that wrong?

Ani is doing the right thing, how can creatives show a happy child marriage? What is the incentive to ban it if one can be happy in child marriage?

Just think from Ani's perspective, He doesn't see her as his wife, I can see most fans are thinking that they'll grow up and there will be romance as I have seen posts which think a hug between them was "Lovey-Dovey", how can it be when you are seeing Bon? She's a child

Ani wants a good future for her where she can live independently, Child marriage cannot result in a happy married life


I have stated marriage wasn't required so I agree with you on that


Did every man of that era marry multiple times? Many might have done that, maybe it was okay at that time, doesn't mean every regular man has to do it. Polygamy was a norm back then but Ani was shown to be way ahead of his time. He isn't a regular man, thats why he was the hero. Thats why people loved him, because in every circumstance he tried to do the right thing.


I have never ever asked or wanted anything even remotely romantic between Rudhita not atleast till Bondita is an adult. I was even okay with his no touch policy unless its absolutely necessary. Makers showed a growing bond between them. If they wanted to show this as an unhappy marriage why even show such deep attachment between Rudhita?

Anirudh was shown to be a man of such high principles. According to makers he is someone who has very good sense of right and wrong. He was the one who refused to marry Mini because its an insult to first wife and injustice to both women. And today he isn't even feeling remorse for marrying again. I am not talking about his reasons or intentions. Its immaterial right now. There is no justification for polygamy. Period. So no matter what there can never be a right reason for doing it.

Even child marriage is wrong I agree. I am not justifying it. But circumstances were completely different. He wanted to desperately save her life. It was his choice to do it though he didn't have many options. But Did Bondita force or ask him to marry her? He dumped that decision on her. Nor am I saying he should accept her as wife or act according to society's expectations. But didn't he have any other choice left this time? Did he try whatever he can to make her understand? He expected her to understand him. When she couldn't, he took this way which is agin very against his character and wrong on so many levels. As long as she was following whatever he told he was okay with she being his wife. But when she started straying away from his expected path or having a crush on him or wanted to be acknowledged as his wife he suddenly wants annulment. He was the one who married her, she didn't ask him to. If he had so much problem with the marriage why didn't he annul it the very next day or send her to hostel back then when she had no emotional attachment with him?

He speaks so highly of himself. Why can't he differentiate between right and wrong. If his ultimate goal was sending her away to hostel he could have done that without marriage drama. He could have just asked her to go or asked Sumati to convince her. Why marry and commit polygamy. After doing this he really has no moral high ground over anyone.


@pink- sorry I don't agree here. He didn't do the right thing. He himself said a few days back how wrong polygamy is and he himself went ahead with it. I am not saying his intentions are wrong but his good intentions are not justifications for his wrong actions.

@green- I agree child marriage is wrong. But polygamy isn't a reason for it being wrong. There are many things they have shown that Bon is facing to tell that child marriage is wrong. They didn't have to show this marriage and destroy Ani's character. Just to show child marriage is wrong they can't completely butcher ML's characterization that formed the essence of this story. They are making it show like if a girl wants to be a regular wife she has to face the malaise of polygamy😕 its coming out like people become strong and independent only if they face these kind of circumstances and get heart broken. Can't women have good personal as well as professional lives? And what if Bondita didn't want to be a barrister? Is it wrong for her to just want to be a homemaker? Shouldn't it be her choice to decide for herself?

Ani-Manorama marriage is really pointless and illogical and its not just some small detail that people can forget. They have made a joke out of marriage. Even in serials set in normal times people don't marry so casually

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Couldnt have put my thought in better words you said exactly what i fell .....agreed that ani's steps are extreme but he wants to make bondita understand that she is not a door mat .....what is in store for her is something the society cannot even imagine .....he tells her that her self respect is more than anything ..even more than their relation when inspite of his warnings she does all those superstition puja n all he wants to make her understand that if she wants to behave like regular women she should also expect the same from him .....regular male in that era...he is not cheating on her but making her understand the brutual truth ....he is a partner we all desire the man who helps who grow not pulls you down.... The man who wants her to be known for herself barrister Bondita non ARC's wife Bondita .... He also understands that she is not just his kranti ki mashal she is also a hope to all those girls who want to study but the society does not let them be by themselves he wants to give her a taste that if she does all that the society wants her to do she will be miserable how do we even expect romance from them? She is just a child and the truth of child marriage is shown here .....while there is no such distractions in a boy's life a girl of same age is expected to do household chores look after her pati and not study as if her whole life revolves around what her husband wants from her ....... Ani understands that bondita is special and instead of glorifying sindoor and mangalsutra we too need to understand that bondita is special and a bitter medicine is needed to cure a dangerous disease......


Note: i do accept that anirudh is a bit harsh and all this marriage track was not necessary

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhshre95


Did every man of that era marry multiple times? Many might have done that, maybe it was okay at that time, doesn't mean every regular man has to do it. Polygamy was a norm back then but Ani was shown to be way ahead of his time. He isn't a regular man, thats why he was the hero. Thats why people loved him, because in every circumstance he tried to do the right thing.


I have never ever asked or wanted anything even remotely romantic between Rudhita not atleast till Bondita is an adult. I was even okay with his no touch policy unless its absolutely necessary. Makers showed a growing bond between them. If they wanted to show this as an unhappy marriage why even show such deep attachment between Rudhita?

Anirudh was shown to be a man of such high principles. According to makers he is someone who has very good sense of right and wrong. He was the one who refused to marry Mini because its an insult to first wife and injustice to both women. And today he isn't even feeling remorse for marrying again. I am not talking about his reasons or intentions. Its immaterial right now. There is no justification for polygamy. Period. So no matter what there can never be a right reason for doing it.

Even child marriage is wrong I agree. I am not justifying it. But circumstances were completely different. He wanted to desperately save her life. It was his choice to do it though he didn't have many options. But Did Bondita force or ask him to marry her? He dumped that decision on her. Nor am I saying he should accept her as wife or act according to society's expectations. But didn't he have any other choice left this time? Did he try whatever he can to make her understand? He expected her to understand him. When she couldn't, he took this way which is agin very against his character and wrong on so many levels. As long as she was following whatever he told he was okay with she being his wife. But when she started straying away from his expected path or having a crush on him or wanted to be acknowledged as his wife he suddenly wants annulment. He was the one who married her, she didn't ask him to. If he had so much problem with the marriage why didn't he annul it the very next day or send her to hostel back then when she had no emotional attachment with him?

He speaks so highly of himself. Why can't he differentiate between right and wrong. If his ultimate goal was sending her away to hostel he could have done that without marriage drama. He could have just asked her to go or asked Sumati to convince her. Why marry and commit polygamy. After doing this he really has no moral high ground over anyone.


@pink- sorry I don't agree here. He didn't do the right thing. He himself said a few days back how wrong polygamy is and he himself went ahead with it. I am not saying his intentions are wrong but his good intentions are not justifications for his wrong actions.

@green- I agree child marriage is wrong. But polygamy isn't a reason for it being wrong. There are many things they have shown that Bon is facing to tell that child marriage is wrong. They didn't have to show this marriage and destroy Ani's character. Just to show child marriage is wrong they can't completely butcher ML's characterization that formed the essence of this story. They are making it show like if a girl wants to be a regular wife she has to face the malaise of polygamy😕 its coming out like people become strong and independent only if they face these kind of circumstances and get heart broken. Can't women have good personal as well as professional lives? And what if Bondita didn't want to be a barrister? Is it wrong for her to just want to be a homemaker? Shouldn't it be her choice to decide for herself?

Ani-Manorama marriage is really pointless and illogical and its not just some small detail that people can forget. They have made a joke out of marriage. Even in serials set in normal times people don't marry so casually

Not only this shree....now the thing will be that if Bon ever questions or challenges polygamy and child marriages in future, people will weigh her voice because she went through its torture emotionally ....but what about Ani......his words against child marriage or polygamy won't be weighed at all by the end since he did both of this with his own consent...he did both of this not out of majboori but his own choice....then who will consider his words or fight for women...

His words wont be taken seriously

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Anirudh nay have great thoughts but the modality to achieve for Bondita's education , what he has done in the current track is all wrong to correct a wrong he said he had to marry a child and now to make a child study he has indulged in polygamy .

he became a rakshak babu now again a rakshas babu

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhshre95


Did every man of that era marry multiple times? Many might have done that, maybe it was okay at that time, doesn't mean every regular man has to do it. Polygamy was a norm back then but Ani was shown to be way ahead of his time. He isn't a regular man, thats why he was the hero. Thats why people loved him, because in every circumstance he tried to do the right thing.


I have never ever asked or wanted anything even remotely romantic between Rudhita not atleast till Bondita is an adult. I was even okay with his no touch policy unless its absolutely necessary. Makers showed a growing bond between them. If they wanted to show this as an unhappy marriage why even show such deep attachment between Rudhita?

Anirudh was shown to be a man of such high principles. According to makers he is someone who has very good sense of right and wrong. He was the one who refused to marry Mini because its an insult to first wife and injustice to both women. And today he isn't even feeling remorse for marrying again. I am not talking about his reasons or intentions. Its immaterial right now. There is no justification for polygamy. Period. So no matter what there can never be a right reason for doing it.

Even child marriage is wrong I agree. I am not justifying it. But circumstances were completely different. He wanted to desperately save her life. It was his choice to do it though he didn't have many options. But Did Bondita force or ask him to marry her? He dumped that decision on her. Nor am I saying he should accept her as wife or act according to society's expectations. But didn't he have any other choice left this time? Did he try whatever he can to make her understand? He expected her to understand him. When she couldn't, he took this way which is agin very against his character and wrong on so many levels. As long as she was following whatever he told he was okay with she being his wife. But when she started straying away from his expected path or having a crush on him or wanted to be acknowledged as his wife he suddenly wants annulment. He was the one who married her, she didn't ask him to. If he had so much problem with the marriage why didn't he annul it the very next day or send her to hostel back then when she had no emotional attachment with him?

He speaks so highly of himself. Why can't he differentiate between right and wrong. If his ultimate goal was sending her away to hostel he could have done that without marriage drama. He could have just asked her to go or asked Sumati to convince her. Why marry and commit polygamy. After doing this he really has no moral high ground over anyone.


@pink- sorry I don't agree here. He didn't do the right thing. He himself said a few days back how wrong polygamy is and he himself went ahead with it. I am not saying his intentions are wrong but his good intentions are not justifications for his wrong actions.

@green- I agree child marriage is wrong. But polygamy isn't a reason for it being wrong. There are many things they have shown that Bon is facing to tell that child marriage is wrong. They didn't have to show this marriage and destroy Ani's character. Just to show child marriage is wrong they can't completely butcher ML's characterization that formed the essence of this story. They are making it show like if a girl wants to be a regular wife she has to face the malaise of polygamy😕 its coming out like people become strong and independent only if they face these kind of circumstances and get heart broken. Can't women have good personal as well as professional lives? And what if Bondita didn't want to be a barrister? Is it wrong for her to just want to be a homemaker? Shouldn't it be her choice to decide for herself?

Ani-Manorama marriage is really pointless and illogical and its not just some small detail that people can forget. They have made a joke out of marriage. Even in serials set in normal times people don't marry so casually

I have stated countless times that marriage was not needed, that's my only opinion on Ani's marriage with Manorama.

Manorama is a freedom fighter, She is not permanent on the show, male Lead married her to bring Bon on right path and Manorama married him to get into social circle of British officers

This track started with Ani's opinion on polygamy, He didn't marry to get Manorama in his bed, he is not thinking about her anymore

I believe fans are making up their own story rather than watching what they are presenting on the show

Ani has not shown any inclination towards Mano after marriage

Bon didn't force Ani to marry her but as he said he had to embrace a Kupratha to end another. He did it again embracing a Kupratha to end another.

They are presenting his thought process through Flashbacks and dialogs, I can understand him

Was he right or wrong will be judged by the result of his actions

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM

I have stated countless times that marriage was not needed, that's my only opinion on Ani's marriage with Manorama.

Manorama is a freedom fighter, She is not permanent on the show, male Lead married her to bring Bon on right path and Manorama married him to get into social circle of British officers

This track started with Ani's opinion on polygamy, He didn't marry to get Manorama in his bed, he is not thinking about her anymore

I believe fans are making up their own story rather than watching what they are presenting on the show

Ani has not shown any inclination towards Mano after marriage

Bon didn't force Ani to marry her but as he said he had to embrace a Kupratha to end another. He did it again embracing a Kupratha to end another.

They are presenting his thought process through Flashbacks and dialogs, I can understand him

Was he right or wrong will be judged by the result of his actions


@bold- thats not my point at all. Him marrying again itself is a very big deal. I didn't make up any story in my mind neither did I say he married Mano to take her to bed. Even Manorama being temporary character is immaterial. Marriage is not a joke but makers have made it into one. Anirudh marrying Manorama whatever be his reasons is wrong and a very big thing in itself. One can't keep marrying people just because they are not going to stay permanently in their life. Moreover marriage isn't even fake, all rituals happened. Just because Ani says its fake doesn't make it one. Anyway to each his own. Lets just agree to disagree. For me Ani-Mano marriage isn't a trivial fact that I can overlook and move on. Its something that butchers whole character of Anirudh. Because ideals and principles aren't something that should change according to convinience and situations. Moreover Another marriage in any couple just kills the feels for me. And as I said I am not saying his intentions are wrong but the way he has taken is horribly wrong. His intentions can't justify his actions.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rudhitafan

Not only this shree....now the thing will be that if Bon ever questions or challenges polygamy and child marriages in future, people will weigh her voice because she went through its torture emotionally ....but what about Ani......his words against child marriage or polygamy won't be weighed at all by the end since he did both of this with his own consent...he did both of this not out of majboori but his own choice....then who will consider his words or fight for women...

His words wont be taken seriously


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Coming to Ani, after what he has done, he doesn't have any moral high ground over anyone. He has no right to give lecture on woman empowerment to anyone again. If he does he will definitely be ridiculed by people

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhshre95


@bold- thats not my point at all. Him marrying again itself is a very big deal. I didn't make up any story in my mind neither did I say he married Mano to take her to bed. Even Manorama being temporary character is immaterial. Marriage is not a joke but makers have made it into one. Anirudh marrying Manorama whatever be his reasons is wrong and a very big thing in itself. One can't keep marrying people just because they are not going to stay permanently in their life. Moreover marriage isn't even fake, all rituals happened. Just because Ani says its fake doesn't make it one. Anyway to each his own. Lets just agree to disagree. For me Ani-Mano marriage isn't a trivial fact that I can overlook and move on. Its something that butchers whole character of Anirudh. Because ideals and principles aren't something that should change according to convinience and situations. Moreover Another marriage in any couple just kills the feels for me. And as I said I am not saying his intentions are wrong but the way he has taken is horribly wrong. His intentions can't justify his actions.

Marriage is not joke but Marriage isn't everything, they didn't marry to stay together, This show is telling us Sindoor and Mangalsutra are not binding you for life, Marriage is Marriage only when you are in it with your everything, Marriage done to save a child or marriage done as a means to an end is not a real marriage.

You are saying 2nd Marriage kills the feel of a couple but what feels one gets from a couple where one isn't old enough to open a bank account in her name, then responsibility of a marriage on her does become a joke. This show gives disclaimers about child marriage being a crime everyday.

We see it differently, I don't expect Ani or Bon to fall into the regular ITV trope of Ek chutki sindoor ki keemat is more than our dreams, future and a good life.

Ani's wedding to Mano for me is what they are presenting it to be, Ani is not committed to Bon or Mano, Bon is not committed to him, Mano is not committed to him.

Mano has her goals, Marriage is not a joke fails when one is risking her life for her nation, It fails when marriage was done to save a child from being murdered, the marriage is not a marriage until and unless to consenting adults go into it with their heart.

Mano and Ani's marriage is a plot device, a means to an end, the ultimate goal of the show is Bon being barrister and Ani highlighting why Kuprathas are called Kuprathas

Mano and Ani both went in this facade of a marriage for their different goals

They are not cheating on anyone, Bon isn't aware of it but audience is aware of it, so how does it ruin anything?

I don't see child marriage as a real marriage, Marriage is a social contract, people who are part of it are way more important than the marriage. This is why I don't think Ani marrying Mano is a big deal as both are aware of the reality and Ani's first marriage is to a child


Points to be noted - I am against both polygamy and child marriage therefore both marriages don't feel real to me.

I don't think the 2nd Marriage was required in this track, This could have been executed without it

Edited by NoraSM - 4 years ago
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Ok go through all the discussions here..

I got TM's point and others also.

So i am making it simple,short and straight..

Do each and every fan of BB understands what Ani is doing right now is making Bondita back in track to her studies..Yes👍🏼

Does Ani's intention is good?? Yes 👍🏼

Do each and every fan of BB supports Child marriage? No

Do each and every fan of BB wanted a romantic relation between the leads or anything close to it? No

By wanting Rudhita remain as husband-wife,do each and every fan of BB wanted a romantic relation between the leads or anything close to it? No

So what does fans want then???

Ans- It is as simple as that to show a logical way from Ani to make Bondita back to track i.e. to her studies without torturing her mentally,emotionally and by public humiliation..

Every parents wanted their child to become either an engineer/doctor/ACS officer/Professor etc..etc..But do every child become that? NO..

To fulfil their dream,parents apply every possible way to achieve it..But then why we hear the news of some young TALENTED students commiting suicide?? Because the way their parents(sometimes teachers too) adopt to make them what they want was WRONG..

There is always numerous ways to do a thing..It is upto us what way we CHOOSE..The fans have no objections of Ani trying to make Bon study but the PATH he chooses is COMPLETELY WRONG..

(The fans would have still accepted it if the marriage was fake and the person he chooses for it is someone else than his pehli nazar ka Zindagi bhar ka pyar..

But was the marriage fake? No

Was it any random girl? No) i am keeping this in bracket because you don't wanna discuss about it..so it's better leave it here..so let's come to the point..


If he wanted to free her from this KUPRATHA of Child marriage,and she has always been a Zimmedari for him then why he treated her as his wife,RC's bahu and allowed her live in a dreamland of happy married life ?? so that one fine day he will shatter all these happiness in the best cruel way ever to show her how Child marriage is a KUPRATHA?? Is that what you accept?? If a person's intension is good that does not give him the licence to do anything in the name of teaching..

It was the creators who showed the audience how unique their bond was..thatswhy viewers got attached to them..it was again them who showed them looks like an ideal couple..fans did not demand it..For ex, in the fake subhra track, he addresses her as "apne Pati babu ki rakshak babu, pati babu ki bandita" and in nemerous ocassions,he make her feel he has accepted her as his wife..Tab kaha gai thi uski Zimmedari jaap??And why this nautanki now?? Stick to what you want Anirudh Babu..He cannot make a girl behave like WIFE or Zimmedari according to his convenience..Be consistent in your behaviour or else nobody is going to support your illogical method of teaching BARRISTER BABU..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhshre95


Krishna🤗🤗

Soo good to see you😳


Coming to Ani, after what he has done, he doesn't have any moral high ground over anyone. He has no right to give lecture on woman empowerment to anyone again. If he does he will definitely be ridiculed by people

Shree🤗❤️

I'm so happy to see you too dear😳

Missing all our old members and old show too 😭

The makers have made him just a bakbak machine with just lampi talks

Exactly shree.... words like women empowerment seems too heavy from his mouth now😵..

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