Much ado over Alta, Apshagun and Aai's son

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Suprabhat Bhagininno! 🌄🌻

How are you doing!? It feels like a Monday today 😐

The episode can only be defined as 'much ado about nothing!' A complete match of egos -- from the Makad Sena and also Sai. It had action in some moments.

(*Setting aside the nauseas debate about shagun apshagun due to denying suhagan Ka Shringaar because it is a very personal choice. I don't want to offend someone who might believe or like doing it just because I find it regressive. Yes, the thought being pushed through the shows is really archaic but I am taking it as being done for the mass audience that actually believes so. Sai already asked the right questions and it would be stating the obvious to say why men are believed to get all the benefits.).

The soft moment of the day was Sai-Ashwini conversation:

Ashwini is genuinely a loving mother. She may have been imperfect in her ways of raising Virat to deal with the toxicity but I guess, given the constraints and the kind of abusive family around, she's given her best shot. Now, a mother who genuinely loves her son cannot not love his wife, especially, if she's a dew-drop at heart 💖

I loved the frankness with which Sai can speak to Ashwini -- "Kisi aur ne Virat sir ke naam Ka Alta laga liya hai... Virat sir bhi Pakhi se pyaar karte Hain!"

Among all the names that he's given her, Virat should call her Spashtha ki Shehzaadi! She's direct. Her thoughts are not served as jalebis. And so, it's easy for anyone to understand why she does what she does. Ashwini now has the knowledge of the actual reason for the entire mess between her son and his wife. She tried her best to make Sai see things from the correct perspective. And it will help Sai in toning down her 'best friend' nags -- to be used only when provoked and not intentionally. But I wish Ashwini gets another chance to feed dinner to her Godu soon and make him aware about this Type 2 Diabetes his jalebis have caused his marriage -- because I don't think Ashwini will go up to Virat and have a clear conversation to resolve this issue. The art of making jalebis has been inherited.

I loved the scene - the exchange between them is so pure and so organic. I loved how Ashwini also got angry for a moment when Sai refused to accept Ashwini's reason. The irritation that Ashwini feels for Sai despite knowing her and loving her with her true heart makes it all the more real.

Her "Koi Kisi ke liye Kyun dard sahega agar wo usse pyaar hi na karta ho"... the golden words of the day. Chalo Ashwini made an attempt to change the programme definition of pyaar in Sai's mind.

The statement is so true both ways and so symbolically said at a moment when Sai is wearing the Alta despite knowing she might be in pain just because she doesn't want Aai to go through any pain should something happen to her son 😂😅 Haan Haan Sai, as you said, "Closing eyes doesn't change the truth we don't want to see..."

It's true for both Virat and Sai. While he's been the rock for her, fighting for her and backing her at every bend -- keeping aside his three moments of outbursts due to chaos within-- she, too, has been suffering all the mental, verbal and even physical pain just to be able to live with him whether she likes it or not. Why are the two of them going through their own set of 'dard' (migraine, in simple words) for each other? Arrey, because at the end of the day, it gives them the chance to get into those head massages 🤣🤣.

Jokes apart, it's true that among the most stressful jobs is of a police officer. The strain and mental pressures that policemen go through apart from being subjected to constant negativity at work is not child's play. To have a home that is a battlefield right from the entry point at the end of a hard day at work is the last thing anyone needs -- and especially overworked policemen in thankless jobs. The fact that the family doesn't recognise the need to give him the environment to calm his already worked up nerves at home speaks volumes of the love they have for him. I know we made a joke of Ashwini's 'Virat ko bhook lagti hai' but it's 100% true that a police officer coming home after fobbing off one million influential phone calls and resisting pressures for various things only wants a warm plate of meal, some pleasant silence and good company to break that silence. I feel for Virat, walking late into the house to find a mob waiting to test his endurance. 😔😑

And then to be asked to play the referee, is anything but an inviting suggestion. 😏


Machoor moment of the day:

Talking of suggestions, Aadarniya Didi ke suggestions toh very vocal thay. But I have a question for her: Tum ho kaun?! Kaun ho tum? Ghar ki Malkin ho? Judge ho?

Who the fishing hell is she to suggest that Virat should take Sai and leave the house? I am as confused as the writers who are trying to make his feeble attempt at reviving her character by trying to add these superficial layers of concern and goodness in one half of a sentence when she genuinely tells Bhavani to not force Sai and does not pay heed to the call of joining in the act and then a second later, she's speaking of Virat leaving the house with Sai.

And of course Mrs Salunkhe Jr. ne suggest Kiya hai toh Dil Ke acche Ghar ke bade will have to concur, inki ragon mein toh Didi ke haath ki chai behti hai 😅 itne bhi matlabi aur ehsaan faramosh nahin Hain ye log.

So except Ashwini, none wanted to question her? And Didi must be thinking she's appearing such a practical parvah Karne wali susheel 96KSKMM brand Bahu but what a manipulative way to push the family to corner Virat and force him to take a stand. Because she's heard that he's said, "Main ye ghar chhodhh Kar jaane ki baat Soch bhi nahi Sakta" but she hasn't heard him say, "Naa jaane ko kahunga aur naa hi jaane doonga."

Oh, and I loved how Sai stood her ground and refused to leave unless Virat asks her to.

It brings me back to the dard sehna... We know what Virat does because it is tangible. But this is what Sai does -- she suffers this torment because a big part of her also wants to be with Virat. She has accepted the family as part of the package that she actually didn't even want to buy... And I find it so graceful that unlike the Susheel bahu she's never dropping threats of leaving the house because of the drama nor is she even blaming Virat for putting her into it. She never waits for him to return so that she can complain about the family... In fact, when she had told him that she wants to go to Gadchiroli during their bedroom conversation after PP left the house, Virat assumed that she wanted to leave and 'Kisi ne Kuch Kaha kya?' but she said, "Ghar chhodhh Kar jaane ki baat Nahi Kar rahi hoon"

That is how a 'wife' deals with a situation she knows wasn't created by her husband and understands that he himself is going through upheavals. You don't walk out of a marriage or on the person, when you're certain you are joined in the soul. No matter how many fights and obstacles in the way, it is about coming back to each other that matters -- coming back home. And by home, I don't mean the physical sar par chhath. Home, actually, is that person who can make you smile like no one else can!

Bas ek hi tamanna hai: in tomorrow's Century episode, it should be Mallika-e-Maturity giving her golden advice to her imaginary husband before anyone else. How I wish he accepts the offer and moved out.. someone tell Chavan Saheb it will be a perfect way to bhook mitao 🤣😂

Now, while the whole audacious act of physically grabbing her hands, manhandling (by women) her and with the douchebag father in law saying , "Rasme nibhaane ke liye humein zabardasti Karni padi toh hum wo bhi karenge" was so despicable, I also did not understand Sai's U-turn... Well, I did but I also didn't. Obviously, the loving mention of the fact that the Alta is symbolic for "husband's wellbeing" and denying it could harm pushed her to realise she could have anti allergy drugs and wear it.

The way Sai's expression changed when Devi mentioned Virat in the context of the rituals. Sai had changed her mind and even thought of the solution to the 'allergy'. Now, only if the chakrams knew how to push the right buttons-- I don't agree with the reasoning of the Shringaar personally, but looks like it helped. Although Sai's questions were pertinent, most subscribers of the 'rituals' raag won't be able to give logical reasons in the current century.

But it wouldn't be entirely false if some "machoor" people in the clan point out the drama that Sai did if she was anyway planning to wear the blessed red paint! Much ado about nothing!

Devi not only ignited Sai's 'emotion' but also her detective skills. So, Miss Marple will soon stumble upon the secret -- it's not a coincidence that the dialogue of Virat sir kahenge toh ek minute me chali jaungi was said in the same scene as Devi's suhagan revelation (even Mallika-e-Maturity was taken aback). Really wish they show the back story soon -- arrey Baba, kisi ki toh love story dikhao Yaar 😆😅

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Now that Ashwini is also keying in the 'pyaar' word into Sai's computer, I am hopeful of some machoor behaviour from her end but wo ACP Ka kya chal raha hai re baba? Is he going to own the Jagtap signature background music 🎶🎶 or will he reclaim the original title track of the show 💞 ya koi Naya hi gaana bajayega on his djembe? 😅

We loved the little comedy in yesterday's episode with ACP Virat Chavan rounding up Aniket More in the Nagpur Medical College, nearly getting caught by toofan mail Baiko and even head slapping himself for being so silly. Now, obviously, Chavan Saheb was 'back in the mood' because he took two long looks at Ani-khet -- toe to head and head to toe and back -- stopping to also read the message on his tee "The More you learn the More you earn". And then if course the assurance that the competitor was not taller than him. And he concluded that he was 'no threat' and went back to his jolly mood. But doesn't it still leave the issue unresolved -- his jealousy?

Wasn't he too quick to conclude that Ani-khet is no competition because he assumed that Sai would never 'fall' for this person? Judging him by his looks alone or finding him a totally contrasting personality then Sai? Was he checking if the guy is worth Sai's infatuation or love? Isn't that exactly how he thought he 'fell in love' with Patralekha, who's actual name he didn't even know in 1.47 hours of their yoga love -- just by the looks? What makes him feel so overconfident that Sai wouldn't connect with this guy at a deeper level that go beyond the looks -- exactly the way he now finds himself feeling for Sai -- if he continues to behave in the nasty way that he does when he's upset? She has already told him that she lost herself in this guy's voice -- he heard her interrupting a visibly important meeting in the Dean's office to say bye to the guy (and almost rile Virat up again). Now, what if this guy becomes the calm she needs in the middle of the choppy waters she's swimming through in that Chakram niwas and now with Virat too, because Virat has suddenly become unpredictable and takes away that support she needs on some days by becoming the cause of her anguish. He hasn't still made it clear that they are fully husband and wife now in spashth words (even my phone has understood with so much spashthta that it's an important word to be added to suggestions while typing but not Chavan Saheb 😅)

Has he really solved the issue of his insecurity and jealousy by doing this round up? No. He's going to go back to bursting at her like a bomb-- something that he accused her of doing during the Amey episode -- until he addresses his innermost emotion rather than the superficial display of joy or jealously from time to time.

It is certain that Virat now wants Sai as his 'wife'. What is stopping him from wooing her. It's definitely not the vaada. There has been no reference to it. Yes, we know that he thinks she doesn't like him and wants to leave the marriage but then, he is clearly not ready to let her go... So even though he might fear rejection, how would he know what she wants unless he tries to woo her? The first thing he must do to beginning to define the boundary when the space between them has 'crowd' -- a word he did not hear her speaking to Amey but he has already begun feeling in terms of her harmless acquaintance with other men.

Sai told Amey over the phone 'Do se jyada bheed Hoti hai... Main bheed Ka hissa Nahi ban na chahti... Sirf hamare baare me socho, mere aur tumhare baare mein." It's true that three is always crowd. Only if Virat had known how crowded his own parents' marriage has been and how the crowding of that marriage has affected his mother's self worth and dignity. Only if Virat had recognised how conveniently he allows the crowd to gather between Sai and him, even in the physical space-- mentally, the marriage is already crowded.

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So the show is batting on 99 -- looks like the century will come with a perfect hit😉

Let's wait for the ball 😜 Waise patchy pre-cap se Lagta hai Chavan Saheb hangry ho gaye thay but appetiser se thoda si bhook mit gayi 😅 dinner milega ya nahi? Jaan ne ke liye...

... Pehle aaj Ka din ji lijiye with coffee ☕☕ tea 🍵🍵 and love ❤️ that's floating around for free... Aur Haan, hugs 🤗 🤗 toh Hain hi!

Tab tak Chavan Saheb ke liye Alexa is playing:

Tere saath saath aisa

Ko(h)i noor aaya hai

Chaand teri roshni ka

Halka sa ek sayaa hai

Teri nazron ne dil ka kiya jo hasharr

Asarr ye hua...

Ab inmein hi doobke ho jaaun paar

Yehi hai dua

Love

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Wow

Such a deep analysis

Love ur posts jankiraghav❤️

I really wish ashwini talks to virat about what sai said

Paaakhi didi virat sir se pyaar karthi hain

Aur virat sir bhi paakhi didi se pyaar karthe hain

It's high time virat knows what they tried to be projected as "best friends " Is love for his biwi and they should stop fooling around

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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

(*Setting aside the nauseas debate about shagun apshagun due to denying suhagan Ka Shringaar because it is a very personal choice. I don't want to offend someone who might believe or like doing it just because I find it regressive. Yes, the thought being pushed through the shows is really archaic but I am taking it as being done for the mass audience that actually believes so. Sai already asked the right questions and it would be stating the obvious to say why men are believed to get all the benefits.).

Agree, I am with you.

I have asked the same questions to my mom and mil and have never received any acceptable answer till date, so neither of them bother me.


The soft moment of the day was Sai-Ashwini conversation:

I think she also deliberately got the blouse for Sai coz she knows her son 🤣


I loved the frankness with which Sai can speak to Ashwini -- "Kisi aur ne Virat sir ke naam Ka Alta laga liya hai... Virat sir bhi Pakhi se pyaar karte Hain!"

I think Sai would think about both his words and action going forward when it comes to pyaar. She has so far only taken his words at face value despite whatever action he does.

I am glad she was able to say it out loud to someone coz it would have been eating her up since day 1.

Also I think Ashwini doesn't even walk to talk about Patralekha, not to Sai, not to Virat. She wants them to ignore her. Lets see if she will talk about Sai's pyaar in front of Virat just like she spoke to Sai.



Her "Koi Kisi ke liye Kyun dard sahega agar wo usse pyaar hi na karta ho"... the golden words of the day. Chalo Ashwini made an attempt to change the programme definition of pyaar in Sai's mind.

The statement is so true both ways and so symbolically said at a moment when Sai is wearing the Alta despite knowing she might be in pain just because she doesn't want Aai to go through any pain should something happen to her son 😂😅 Haan Haan Sai, as you said, "Closing eyes doesn't change the truth we don't want to see..."


So True, at that point, Sai realized why she was doing it for Virat as well.



Machoor moment of the day:

Talking of suggestions, Aadarniya Didi ke suggestions toh very vocal thay. But I have a question for her: Tum ho kaun?! Kaun ho tum? Ghar ki Malkin ho? Judge ho?

First of all , are the senior citizens of Chavan khandan stupid that they just repeat whatever Pakhi says like a parrot ? Khud ka dimag nahi hai kya.

And are those the only 2 option, can the third option not be convince her to apply Alta if they truly believed she was lying?


Who the fishing hell is she to suggest that Virat should take Sai and leave the house? I am as confused as the writers who are trying to make his feeble attempt at reviving her character by trying to add these superficial layers of concern and goodness in one half of a sentence when she genuinely tells Bhavani to not force Sai and does not pay heed to the call of joining in the act and then a second later, she's speaking of Virat leaving the house with Sai.

I don't think it was genuine, I felt it was more like Virat wouldn't like if she is abused and I didn't say anything. She is not yet sure of why Virat was upset with Sai yesterday. She is trying her luck.

Also after instigating and doing all this, she was standing furthest away from Chavans in precap. It was seniors who will come out looking stupid to Virat, unless Pakhi pitches in later to taunt Sai tomorrow..


what a manipulative way to push the family to corner Virat and force him to take a stand. Because she's heard that he's said, "Main ye ghar chhodhh Kar jaane ki baat Soch bhi nahi Sakta" but she hasn't heard him say, "Naa jaane ko kahunga aur naa hi jaane doonga."

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They all underestimate the relation between Virat and Sai.

They only see the fights they have in public and come to their own conclusion


Oh, and I loved how Sai stood her ground and refused to leave unless Virat asks her to.

Its one of her predictions which will turn true, which we know after Devi track. Chavans would celebrate that day like Diwali



Bas ek hi tamanna hai: in tomorrow's Century episode, it should be Mallika-e-Maturity giving her golden advice to her imaginary husband before anyone else. How I wish he accepts the offer and moved out.. someone tell Chavan Saheb it will be a perfect way to bhook mitao 🤣😂

Even if he wasn't thinking about moving out before , after seeing Sai in precap, he will be like Kaku, Sai se kya poochna tha🤣



You have amazing patience level, great analysis Janki. I usually enjoy watching episode again after reading your post.


I hate Viratless episodes, kuch monologue dhikate uska in Police station so that we could atleast know the state of his jealousy.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I enjoyed your post more than the episode. I have nothing more to add. You said everything that I wanted to say except I want to answer your question. What will stop Sai from getting emotionally attached to Aniket? The answer is the same reason which is stopping Virat from seeking solace in Pakhi’s arms( chi chi, please don't imagine that ) or any other girl at work. Why is the pinning for his wife when he believes she is not interested in him? Why is he taking so much pain to keep her with him when he has an option of sending her to a hostel. Why doesn't he accept an open invitation from Pakhi? We all know the answer may be in his subconscious mind he knows Sai won't betray him.

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Hi janaki, your analysis is very nice, yes you are right, it's the war of egos.... Kaku gang is impossible, they will break their own record of stuping low everyday... But I really felt, if sai could manage with the pill, she could have done it without argument... No , I am no saying for that stupid crow crowd ( Kaku gang) but for the sake of her, Ashwini and virat mental peace...

And you are right about pp , she is just manipulating everyone by saying virat will leave the house along with sai, she put the words tactically into everyone's mind... And result we can see in precap.... During after marriage rituals who don't want sai to leave the house for their false prestige are ready to send sai out... That's not bcoz of sai but it's bcoz of pp words...

I guess virat asked pp that why she is taunting right? So I think now she changed the plan by supporting on face and manipulating others to do her job....


You mentioned right that she heard his words" that he will never leave the house" but she also heard other dialogue but forgot " that everyone related to him will stay in this house only along with him"

I really liked sai and Ashwini conversation.

PS: I like your analysis on one want to be back to a person where they can find peace ... Thanks for coffee janaki .... I am bad in making coffee so I am sending lots of love to you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Such beautiful analysis, Janki.

There's much that Virat does for Sai but Sai also does much for him. They have this trust and faith in each other that's not expressed but it's there. They both know they both are "dil ke acche" and "kabhi kisi ko chot nahi pocha sakte" ...this is the biggest thing despite believing Virat loves Pakhi, she trusts him enough to know he will never cross his line and vice versa (don't know about later on).

I absolutely hated the physical abuse today. Today, it wasn't even about applying alta as a suhagan but it was more about should anyone be forced to do something if the end result is self harm? Isme kaunsi samajdari hain that I should hurt myself to follow something that is believed to keep my husband safe? This is different than following rasams pooja's, and rituals done by married woman for their husbands. This is about whether a woman should inflict self harm upon herself to fit into societal norms and rituals? Additionally, these people tortured and forced her - this was too much. I don't want to judge Virat's reaction by the precap but even he looked angry at her not following through the rasam ..i wonder if it's bc people instigate him to say "your wife doesn't care abt your wellbeing"

I am glad Ashwini brought the sweetness by bringing the word pyaar for Sai connecting Sai and Virat with the word pyaar and the ehsaas of pyaar. From her viewpoint today, it's so evident she will never admit to him or to anyone else, she too cares as much as he does for him. She too loves him..tabhi toh self harm ke liye bhi tyaar. Sai is very much like her aba in that sense - willing to go through anything to make sure her loved ones are safe. In the first episode, she got on a tree to get leaves for shiv pooja for her aba. Here too, despite her not believing in, she will go through the extent to make sure nothing happens to Virat sir. She takes harm upon herself for her loved ones. what is the diff between Jagtap and CN folks then? He tortured her mentally (getting married), emotionally (threatening killing her aba), and physically (forcing her to get married and suhaag raat tlks). She is getting tortured mentally (constant tannas), physically (forcing her for alta, chilli grinding), and emotionally (telling Virat lies and making her do things in the name of Virat) in CN as well. If Virat does a lot, well Sai does too - she does ghar ka kaam, goes to college, studies, handles her husbands yellings and bhook ...bapre.

I didn't like how Pakhi started the Sai leaving the house convo which is a premonition for future ...but i do like how she tried to stop the forcing ..atleast she said "aap zabardasti nahi kar sakte" ..she even tried to stop karishma..so that's one good thing she did

I liked Sai and Ashwini scene but just how others felt, i felt it was thanda when Sai expressed how she believes Virakhi still love each other and that there's no space for her - which I don't blame her for. The way Virat has been yelling at her for small things (for reasons only he and we know)...if I was in Sai's position, i would also believe it's because he is upset over his life and including me and the daily tannas w it..only he can help himself and his wife now...

Waiting for precap but I wont keep my expectations high bc these people always ruins things lol Although i do want a scene where he sees her allergies, her back, thinks abt his bhookh 🤣, and basically ignores everyone and just becomes a makkhi around her..oh also hoping for a chipkali to miraculously enter their vicinity and constantly make rounds around them 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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You know janki, i wait for your reviews more than the episodes nowdays, to be very honest one of the reason is i fast forward the CN drama or sarplekha scenes because they are really toxic for my health.

Second is you can put a positive spin on almost anything.

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Originally posted by: Sairat

You know janki, i wait for your reviews more than the episodes nowdays, to be very honest one of the reason is i fast forward the CN drama or sarplekha scenes because they are really toxic for my health.

Second is you can put a positive spin on almost anything.

Yeah actually, my heart skips a beat and I have to breathe before I watch the CN scenes ...maybe i should just forward or do what I did last week..watch an entire week's worth in one go so I can forward the intolerable scenes ...

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Lovely analysis Janki. I really wonder how Omi and Sonali get along..May be both are evil, thats the bonding. For Ninad, I really wished if not a fatherly figure for Sai, atleast itna zeher mat kolna ki, you cant retrieve yourself.


Virat - what to say about his insecurity. But like a breath of fresh air, the moment he sees Sai, every stress just disappears, any given day. Thats one consistent thing I have noticed.


Sai-Devi and Aai-Sai conversation was sweet. While Devi Tai gave her the pointer to Virat, Aai gave her best inputs on whom her son actually loves. It would be best for the ACP dear to put that question to void by himself. I really want Sai to ask a direct question to Virat...You are taking all this dookh and dard because you love me?? Aai thinks so...That would be the hit for a century...And may be both are in this ambigious, embarass, blush mode in their room, it takes it to a different level of talking..there is no free innocent speech..Well, we can wait for that, no rush..if they can atleast keep us going with simple chats.


Pakhi - What are you?? Display that you are the peacemaker? and also the separator? Once she said, tumhe Sai ko bhul jana chahiye, then I think she wants to leave the house with you...and today, you need to leave the house..Has she done Ph.D in what situations should people use this keyword...leave the house??


Well, by that one look of Sai in the precap and the lost soul ACP, my day begins in happiness and a hot cup of home brewed Coffee..I dont like instant coffee..

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I love the thought you put into your posts🤗


The family drama was much too crass today. A family with a history of army background, this kind of torture is acceptable??


All that struck me was the Ashwini Sai convo. It was pertinent and relevant. However wrong it seemed, not even wrong.. it exposed the generational gap that all of us face at some point in time.

Ashwini not taking Sai's observation seriously, we will see the consequences of that during the Devyani track. She wants to work on Sai, helping her to look at things like an adult. And according to her wisdom, that will help the relationship.


She doesn't pull up Virat at this point, thinking my son will understand, he will never do anything wrong. But there are so many influences around Virat that eventually he will succumb when he's at his most vulnerable.


Pakhi was despicable today. Yes, she supported Sai for a spilt second. But what is her definition of shanthi at home? Everyone ganging up on Ashwini?? And Ashwini resigning to her fate, while the rituals go on?? Somehow I find her treatment of Ashwini, the worst. It exposes her inner nature. This is the mother of the guy she loves.

A person who talks of the son leaving the house is concerned about the family unity??


Pre-cap: I didn't particularly like Virat's expression of annoyance. I hope the allergy issue is not brushed under the carpet. And as for him going lattoo, I would like to watch the episode first😆. I am traumatized with the chilli grinding turn around😆


PS: Why are they suddenly showing Pakhi as being 'actually' decent? This is happening this week. Not that she stops her nastiness. But probably they are giving her 'dimensions' 🤣

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