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Hi everyone! I don't know why but I have a teeny tiny feeling that Shakura is actually Veer. Like Jai only saw a cheel coming out and captured him in cage, he didn't see Veer's face ever since he came out of Cheel's mansion. I know Sharad is quarantined, but during the time Shakura was there, Jai didn't even checked the cage. Sure they can't show Sharad now but they can show his Cheel roop trying to get out of the cage. Also, if they are going to show chemistry between Bani and fake Veer, high chances are that they won't do it with any ancient cheel like Shakura. Shukla can be double crossing Jay to gain Veer's trust and the way he lets Jai bully him, something is fishy. Veer wouldn't have let Jai go so easily just because Bani persuaded him. Also, he must have something on his mind since that dagger revelation. Also, the first thing Bani told Shakura was that Veer could never hurt her. So it's evident, she's already subconsciously realising Veer's worth which he actually wanted. What do you think about it?

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Now that i think about it... This might actually be true but does shakira not say that woh bohot time se uss pahaadiyon mein hi band hai and jamashu let him and set him free? I feel this is some sort of a negative force jiske saath sharad veer ka showdown fight hoga

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Originally posted by: Cinnamon_Kisses

Now that i think about it... This might actually be true but does shakira not say that woh bohot time se uss pahaadiyon mein hi band hai and jamashu let him and set him free? I feel this is some sort of a negative force jiske saath sharad veer ka showdown fight hoga


One thing I like about this season is how it's subverting our expectations. A predictable route as with all previous seasons would be to show Shakura as villain and have a real Veer-fake Veer showdown. But as far as I listened about actors, DD actually is one of the most popular TV actors this time and even if it's just an extended cameo to fill in Sharad's place, he wouldn't have agreed to play just a villain forgettable among multiple Naagin verse villains. His character would have bigger impact than just being an impostor and killed by protagonists. Also Bani never was defeated by her enemies. Veer is equally powerful. He couldn't just be captured by Jayurila trio. On a side note, is this going The Vampire Diaries way? Playing Doppelganger-Doppelganger.

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Originally posted by: Autumn09

Hi everyone! I don't know why but I have a teeny tiny feeling that Shakura is actually Veer. Like Jai only saw a cheel coming out and captured him in cage, he didn't see Veer's face ever since he came out of Cheel's mansion. I know Sharad is quarantined, but during the time Shakura was there, Jai didn't even checked the cage. Sure they can't show Sharad now but they can show his Cheel roop trying to get out of the cage. Also, if they are going to show chemistry between Bani and fake Veer, high chances are that they won't do it with any ancient cheel like Shakura. Shukla can be double crossing Jay to gain Veer's trust and the way he lets Jai bully him, something is fishy. Veer wouldn't have let Jai go so easily just because Bani persuaded him. Also, he must have something on his mind since that dagger revelation. Also, the first thing Bani told Shakura was that Veer could never hurt her. So it's evident, she's already subconsciously realising Veer's worth which he actually wanted. What do you think about it?

See, this is exactly what I am talking about. This Shakura is really dodgy. I mean Veer ka chehra uss tasveer me tha hi nahi, woh kala ho gaya tha, to Aakesh ka chehra kaise aaya?? I mean Shakura ke baare me mention bhi Shukla ne kiya tha, aur hoga shayad woh Banjar pahadi pe, lekin phir bhi mujhko vishwas nahi ho raha, ki ye Shakura hai.

Something is amiss, for example, when Shakura challenged Bani, and she showed her red eyes, for a moment he was stunned, like not expecting wala stunned. Also, how are we so sure that the Cheel that flew out is a Cheel and not some magical trope used to fool Jai. Veer was so confident that he will prove Bani wrong about Jai. So he too can do this.

Another thing, the moment Veer was separated from Bani, the Kaalganak resumed at jet speed and all the sand was dispensed. So Veer should remember by now. And should be powerful. When Markat mentioned ki Veeranshu ko har choti se choti cheez yaad aayegi, what did he mean by that? Is there more to Veer's memories than we know?

I am in two minds about Veer and Shakura. Something is bothering me about Shakura, that he is not showing the truth. And what is this main tumhe bina chuye marunga, like literal death or poetic death, what??

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Originally posted by: libran90

See, this is exactly what I am talking about. This Shakura is really dodgy. I mean Veer ka chehra uss tasveer me tha hi nahi, woh kala ho gaya tha, to Aakesh ka chehra kaise aaya?? I mean Shakura ke baare me mention bhi Shukla ne kiya tha, aur hoga shayad woh Banjar pahadi pe, lekin phir bhi mujhko vishwas nahi ho raha, ki ye Shakura hai.

Something is amiss, for example, when Shakura challenged Bani, and she showed her red eyes, for a moment he was stunned, like not expecting wala stunned. Also, how are we so sure that the Cheel that flew out is a Cheel and not some magical trope used to fool Jai. Veer was so confident that he will prove Bani wrong about Jai. So he too can do this.

Another thing, the moment Veer was separated from Bani, the Kaalganak resumed at jet speed and all the sand was dispensed. So Veer should remember by now. And should be powerful. When Markat mentioned ki Veeranshu ko har choti se choti cheez yaad aayegi, what did he mean by that? Is there more to Veer's memories than we know?

I am in two minds about Veer and Shakura. Something is bothering me about Shakura, that he is not showing the truth. And what is this main tumhe bina chuye marunga, like literal death or poetic death, what??


Your every point is valid. And Shukla Ji always gives me strange vibes, like that friend of hero who leaves hero because of a fight and gets involved with the villains but in the end, it's revealed he was working for the hero all the time. And when Jai mimicked Bani, it was clear as a glass that it was not Bani's voice. Why would makers do that? They could use Surabhi's voice there, but no they used Jai's strange female voice. Veer was the smartest among the Jai Bani Veer trio yet he couldn't recognize his gharwali voice. It sounds fishy. Also, this time, unlike Naagin series bechara hero, Veer is not some damsel in distress who needs rescuing. And moreover, that Cheel Cheel dance. Only Shukla knew about it and it's unlikely he would tell Shakura to dance first thing when he meets Veer's family. And you rightly raised the point about the dialogue Main tumhe bina chuye maroonga, it was condition between Veer and Bani, how can Shakura know about it?

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Originally posted by: Autumn09


Your every point is valid. And Shukla Ji always gives me strange vibes, like that friend of hero who leaves hero because of a fight and gets involved with the villains but in the end, it's revealed he was working for the hero all the time. And when Jai mimicked Bani, it was clear as a glass that it was not Bani's voice. Why would makers do that? They could use Surabhi's voice there, but no they used Jai's strange female voice. Veer was the smartest among the Jai Bani Veer trio yet he couldn't recognize his gharwali voice. It sounds fishy. Also, this time, unlike Naagin series bechara hero, Veer is not some damsel in distress who needs rescuing. And moreover, that Cheel Cheel dance. Only Shukla knew about it and it's unlikely he would tell Shakura to dance first thing when he meets Veer's family. And you rightly raised the point about the dialogue Main tumhe bina chuye maroonga, it was condition between Veer and Bani, how can Shakura know about it?


bechara hero 🤣 cracked me up omg

& this cheel dance was amazing but could u imagine if they were like go enter the house and start dancing lmaooo

i do think that kuch tou ghalat hai, shayad markat jay ka istamal kar raha hai, maybe shukla is with veer and not against, maybe jay mayuri & shukla will all backstab each other, so many maybes but i do think bani suspects this guy as he didnt protect her instead hurt her but lets see saturdays epi for the reveal ?

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Originally posted by: Autumn09

Your every point is valid. And Shukla Ji always gives me strange vibes, like that friend of hero who leaves hero because of a fight and gets involved with the villains but in the end, it's revealed he was working for the hero all the time. And when Jai mimicked Bani, it was clear as a glass that it was not Bani's voice. Why would makers do that? They could use Surabhi's voice there, but no they used Jai's strange female voice. Veer was the smartest among the Jai Bani Veer trio yet he couldn't recognize his gharwali voice. It sounds fishy. Also, this time, unlike Naagin series bechara hero, Veer is not some damsel in distress who needs rescuing. And moreover, that Cheel Cheel dance. Only Shukla knew about it and it's unlikely he would tell Shakura to dance first thing when he meets Veer's family. And you rightly raised the point about the dialogue Main tumhe bina chuye maroonga, it was condition between Veer and Bani, how can Shakura know about it?

I don't think Shukla is a double agent. I think he is a sly Cheel, who has benefited by fooling Ballu.

But Veer cannot be fooled unless he allows someone to fool and trap him.

I am very confused about this Shakura and Veer. Something is just not right.

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Originally posted by: nainaasharmaa


bechara hero 🤣 cracked me up omg

& this cheel dance was amazing but could u imagine if they were like go enter the house and start dancing lmaooo

i do think that kuch tou ghalat hai, shayad markat jay ka istamal kar raha hai, maybe shukla is with veer and not against, maybe jay mayuri & shukla will all backstab each other, so many maybes but i do think bani suspects this guy as he didnt protect her instead hurt her but lets see saturdays epi for the reveal ?


Like ye banda khud hi Bani ko announce kar raha that he's not Veer. I mean why will he do that...and when anyone wants to kill other, he will not explicitly tell her you know what babes, I'm gonna kill you woh bhi bina chuye. Mayuri kitna bhi Bani se jhagde, she never discloses her plan to kill her, nor do Jai and Shukla. Aur ye Shakura Mahashay gadhon ki tarah keh rahe hain ki Baani main tumhe maroonga.

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Originally posted by: libran90

I don't think Shukla is a double agent. I think he is a sly Cheel, who has benefited by fooling Ballu.

But Veer cannot be fooled unless he allows someone to fool and trap him.

I am very confused about this Shakura and Veer. Something is just not right.

I mean when you want to kill someone, you won't tell her explicitly I'm going to kill you to retain the advantage of sudden attack. But Shakura straighaway threatened Bani to kill her. Also, Veer always taunts Jai that the latter is not as powerful and smart as him. It's highly unlikely that makers will portray Veer to be this foolish who couldn't recognize Bani's voice from Jai's fake female voice. They never showed Veer even in Cheel form after Shakura was introduced. Keeping in mind, Shakura is posing as Veer, it was strange that he straightaway gave himself as an imposter by throwing Bani on the sofa so that even Bani, who's very slow in understanding things when it comes to Veer said, Veer would never hurt her like the imposter did.

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Originally posted by: Autumn09

I mean when you want to kill someone, you won't tell her explicitly I'm going to kill you to retain the advantage of sudden attack. But Shakura straighaway threatened Bani to kill her. Also, Veer always taunts Jai that the latter is not as powerful and smart as him. It's highly unlikely that makers will portray Veer to be this foolish who couldn't recognize Bani's voice from Jai's fake female voice. They never showed Veer even in Cheel form after Shakura was introduced. Keeping in mind, Shakura is posing as Veer, it was strange that he straightaway gave himself as an imposter by throwing Bani on the sofa so that even Bani, who's very slow in understanding things when it comes to Veer said, Veer would never hurt her like the imposter did.

Haan woh bhi sahi baat hai. Like he has planned this move to antagonize Bani. Kaun dhol peetke apna plan batata hai. Like woh wohi kar raha ho jo Bani chahti hai ki ho. Lekin hoga woh jo woh chahta hai. Veer is sanki, but Bani has always been off-limits to his family. Family ke saamne hi usko patak diya. I mean jaise jaanbujh kar koi apni taraf shaq karwane ki koshish kare, aise actions the uske. Like weird. Ye Shakura koi aur hi cheez hai. Aur ye jo ghar me ghusa hai koi aur.

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