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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: abhilashasharma

totally not needed. But the point is - if you are at your lowest self-esteem and self-confidence and with the hurt gain, you are doubtful about everything and anything around you! No matter how much the person means to you! All she needs now is little solitude to gather her thoughts and logics! She is mature enough to handle her and Abir but definitely not under Meenu's constant abuse and taunts! I just want Abir to wait for 2 days, she will come back by herself to him! But 2 days are too much time for Meenu


It has been multiple episodes for us but only a few hours for Mishti to process that she can't be a mother and his mother in law wants his husband to marry again, her mother in law tried to commit suicide, her husband is unhappy and is putting on a happy face for her.


The thing is that Abir is escaping situation because he can't show his pain in front of Mishti and it shouldn't be like that, sometimes people need to hold each other and cry their hearts out instead of being happy for one another


It's not fair to Abir, One has to be stronger but he has always been the one to be stronger, didn't he say "Na Mai Tujhse Jyada, Na Tu Mujhse Kam hai"


Mishbir should work as a team

Abir doesn't have to compromise on anything, he is the one to put a smile on his face everytime with every relationship of his life, how are Mishbir different? How is his relationship with Mishti different from his relationship with Kunal, Nanu?


Same goes for Mishti

Their big words about love fail in execution when they hide things from each other

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Another topic for discussion -


Do you think it's fair that Abir has to be smiling and happy for Mishti?

Firstly, I want to touch upon Abir's characterization. He was portrayed to be a loner who always hid his real emotions (especially sadness) behind humour and a smiling face. Recall Mishti going to check up on him post Ketu-Ved wedding fiasco. His immediate reaction is-amazing, fantastic blah. Ofcourse Mishti sees right through it and calls his bluff but even she knows one thing about him which she admits to herself before releasing the balloons prior to that scene. She prays that Abir recovers quickly so he can make the rest of RJV house smile. Obviously by smile/laugh she doesn't mean ki they'll get over it so soon, but she banks on him to distract them. In the initial stages of receiving a shock/bad news, little distractions can do wonders. Anyway, my point is that in short, Abir has always been like this.

Coming to the current situation, Abir's way of supporting Mishti is to support her cheerily. Some people share your gham, offer empathy, consolation etc but this is Abir's way. It has its pros and cons. Especially when there is someone in the vicinity waiting to prey on their insecurities, having one upbeat person can help. I think there is no right or wrong here. Mishti can as usual see through him. Abir, like he himself mentioned, doesn't know how to react to the situation. Which is why he decided to do what he is used to doing. Mishti, on the other hand, herself approached him and urged him to share his real feelings when she clearly wasn't ready to handle the truth and to help him.

I guess the upcoming drama is to make them realise what's happening and where they both went wrong in dealing with the situation and with each other. Ideally, that's what I'm expecting-a good outcome (not keeping my hopes high). I think maybe the distance, maybe the patch up in a location away from home is the need of the hour.

Edited by Su94 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Last 3 episodes the amount of screen space Rupal maam was given was insane.. maybe bcoz of rasode mein Kanu tha .. or whatever.. she is fab no doubt but the dialogues given to her and her high pitch kind of changes the balance in the episodes.. the episodes becomes too dark n negative... and that too 10 mins straight she kept saying things... it was very unbearable.. I hope the writer understands this.. trust me... today morning I couldn’t bring myself to see the episode coz I felt if I gave to see more of meenu’s scenes I’ll have a nervous breakdown...


And then all other scenes seem like they are superficially written.. the emotional connect of mishbir lacks depth...


I hope the writers work on this.. coz currently no other show is so dark as yrhpk...


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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Su94

Firstly, I want to touch upon Abir's characterization. He was portrayed to be a loner who always hid his real emotions (especially sadness) behind humour and a smiling face. Recall Mishti going to check up on him post Ketu-Ved wedding fiasco. His immediate reaction is-amazing, fantastic blah. Ofcourse Mishti sees right through it and calls his bluff but even she knows one thing about him which she admits to herself before releasing the balloons prior to that scene. She prays that Abir recovers quickly so he can make the rest of RJV house smile. Obviously by smile/laugh she doesn't mean ki they'll get over it so soon, but she banks on him to distract them. In the initial stages of receiving a shock/bad news, little distractions can do wonders. Anyway, my point is that in short, Abir has always been like this.

Coming to the current situation, Abir's way of supporting Mishti is to support her cheerily. Some people share your gham, offer empathy, consolation etc but this is Abir's way. It has its pros and cons. Especially when there is someone in the vicinity waiting to prey on their insecurities, having one upbeat person can help. I think there is no right or wrong here. Mishti can as usual see through him. Abir, like he himself mentioned, doesn't know how to react to the situation. Which is why he decided to do what he is used to doing. Mishti, on the other hand, herself approached him and urged him to share his real feelings when she clearly wasn't ready to handle the truth and to help him.

I guess the upcoming drama is to make them realise what's happening and where they both went wrong in dealing with the situation and with each other. Ideally, that's what I'm expecting-a good outcome (not keeping my hopes high). I think maybe the distance, maybe the patch up in a location away from home is the need of the hour.


Agree

Abir has always been like this, He didn't show his pain to anyone, He has also been the strong one putting one bandaid after another, it was a refreshing change to see BP talking about Abir's pain and Mishti asking him to share it with her.


But, My question was, is it fair that Abir, even after his marriage to the love of his life, feels that he has to do the same?

I am talking from Mishbir POV, what is the change in their lives? Mishti left Abir for Kuhu's happiness and she left him for his happiness, what's the change? Are Kuhu and Abir same for her?

Abir couldn't share his pain with Kunal, he can't share it with Mishti


How Mishbir has changed Abir and Mishti? They should react differently when it comes to each other, no?

Like, Mishti should have shared Meenu's drama with Abir, I do understand her vulnerabilities but if she won't trust Abir with her vulnerabilities, then how are Mishbir different from their other relationships?



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Since Kunal and Kuhu are a part of next track, I don't have any hope, most probably they will return with surrogacy talk They can't have ONE track about Mishbir, I really don't like how family is part of Mishbir, They have no privacy

Edited by NoraSM - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: NoraSM


Not a single good adopted parents-child relationship in this show

They lead from example, when Mishti herself keeps talking about ehsan etc, how can she be ready for adoption? Does she feel BP and BM lacked somewhere?

I feel it is very reasonable for her to think about her adopted kid's future, she had loving parents too, but it doesn't guarantee happiness and good childhood, does it?

When Grandmother Meenu wants waris, There's an aunt like Kuhu who tried to kill his mother, what if Kuhu's kids resent her child for getting everything, even though he/she is adopted?

It would be ideal to adopt a child but Mishti comes with a baggage involving adoption and the family is not a good or healthy one for a child


It is important for parents to discuss every possibility before applying for adoption, a child is not a dream, it's a responsibility, Mishbir can love their kids but they won't be good parents considering the fact that they live with criminals


That's if they need baby, I would have preferred Mishti not being ready for the child

Hi, I just saw this reply. I think adoption is a choice that parents make when they come to the rational conclusion that shoving a child out of the mother's womb doesn't make you a parent. Like BM said, you're ready to be a parent when you connect with the child emotionally by bonding with love. Dil se rishta jodna. Or we wouldn't have so many abused, neglected kids living with their biological parents would we? I think Mishti and Abir realise this. I think Kuhu and Kunal can also 100% empathise with this sentiment because of the truth of their parentage. And coming to troubles in the future between MishBir's adopted kid(s) and KuKu's biological kids, that depends on the upbringing. Why can't they turn out like AbiNal. I don't think or atleast hope that Kuhu will be so evil as to turn the kids against each other. Plus, the other parents and elders will also be around. Together, they can easily overcome a bulldozer like Meenu as well if she tries her games.

I absolutely feel there is no need to fear anything for the child adopted by MishBir and that Mishti will have any reservations or misgivings towards adoption. She was all for helping the NGO kids as well and she is a proactive social worker. Her baggage is much deeper with seeing her parents' unhappy marriage and blaming herself for it, being abandoned at a tender age, being evicted from the home she grew up in without a choice, entering a home where 2 people truly accepted her, 2 tried really hard to accept her and 2 didn't accept her at all. MishBIr's baby on the other hand won't have those problems unless upon knowing that they're adopted, they would want to look for their birth parents (if they're not dead), which is a legit reaction and doesn't mean that the grown up child will leave them.

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Posted: 5 years ago

The thing about Abir is that he has learnt to share his emotions with Mishti and with badi ma; or else before this who did he share his emotions with? Why should he not though? She ASKED him how he is feeling and if he had lied then would that not be wrong? If his wife who is his EVERYTHING, his bestie and his OTL (one true love) ASKS him how he is coping, should he LIE? Why can't he say the truth to the one person in the world he thinks he has? So he shared his feelings; his feelings that the deepest desire of his heart would no longer come true. Isn't that what he should have done when his life partner ASKED him? So he should have held Mishti and they could both cry? And that would achieve what? Catharsis? They have been crying since they heard this news. So crying when his wife ASKED him what he was feeling was not the best thing to do? He should have hidden it even depeer within? WHY? Bestie hai? One True Love hai?

He said he would face every problem if she was with him; He said she was his strength; bUT NO; let's just focus on him saying relationships need one to compromise a bit. Not everyone gets everything but we should be happy with what we have. So what was he meant to say. "NO; i am upset; but wait angry chorni, I have no right to be upset".

And why are we forgetting what he said to BM? He said "why did God give Mishti so many problems?"

Anyways, I am tired of trying to fight for Abir; i sometimes wonder how the writers who get 58903 Qs a day deal with their DMs and comments on SM.

P.S. Special points for how worried Abir got for BM when he thought he had reminded her about Akshara. He forgot his pain and was so concerned about BM - Abiraa I smiley27 you. - BM, adopt Abir also; he has never known what a mother's love could be like until he met you and that really breaks my heart.

P.P.S. I have been accused of praising the actor who plays Abir in every post but who cares; regardless MY GOD; what a fantastic Abir. The way the poem was said -- Sha, I think Rupi Kaur (milk and honey, the sun and her flowers) needs to hire you to do the audible version of her poetry books because #allthefeels; If anyone lives in the Toronto area and knows her PLEASE give her this suggestion; anyways I digress; so yeah the actor - the voice modulation between scenes; how his tone changed when he was trying to feed Mish cake and then how his tone changed when he was expressing his sadness; and that scene with badi ma - the expression change when he realised how she must hurt because she lost Akshara. It must be hard to carry the weight of having to do so many sad scenes one after the other; BUT like I said, what a fantastic Abir!!!No one else could have been Abir.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Thimag1314

girls parents should be like this only...


BM BP are awesome fighters for their children and grandchildren 👏⭐️

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Posted: 5 years ago

Reading all the scenarios an adoption track may lead to made me 🤣

Adopted or biological anyways Mishbir kid is going to face immense competition from Kuhu brigade...Varsha and jas fuelling the competitive streak in Kuhu..and Kunal will be helpless..as Varsha said apna bacha hoga toh woh uski side lega...

Toh ab Kya Kare...

Surrogacy..!!? OMG..kitna neat solution to ensure Mishbir kids safety..

Kuhu toh uski bhi maa banegi na...

IAM like

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Posted: 5 years ago
Badi ma needs to speak up like this to Meenu. That would be a scene worth watching
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Posted: 5 years ago

Adoption is a very beautiful relationship if handled well. My husband’s first cousin is an adopted daughter of his mama- mami. His mami is a social worker and the couple adopted a six day old girl child. The parentage of the child was unknown. They raised her by being honest with her. She knows she was adopted right from the start.. they gave her age appropriate knowledge so beautifully that she grew up as a confident adult. They got her married in their caste( arranged) that also with complete honesty.

kids are very resilient. And they understand a lot more that we give them credit for. If parentage,etc is not made a big deal about or hidden then the child grows up with that knowledge right from the start and there is no place for vulnerability or insecurities.

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