YHM Discussion Thread #7 - (Avoid Comparison of Other Shows with YHM) - Page 32

Originally posted by: GBSC

Hi Aditi ,Enjoyed your ideas n analysis .

You can easily convert them into OS .

All your ideas seem original .

There’s sometging that I have to say ,

Ishu gave away the dress that Raman wanted her to wear for shags wedding engagement to Ashok .N that gifting away of the earnings .

Ishu is a fictional chr .

According to her chr portrayal ,she was not the kind of person who valued materialistic pleasures .

Unlike shagun .

The main reason why she gave away her baby ( pihu ) to shagz after Raman ‘s outburst upon Ruhi’s death .

The more she loved a person ,the more she sacrificed for the sake of theIr happiness .If it was in her capacity .

Since you’ve already read those pages from IF ,I don’t have to repeat them .

In a way Raman too did the same .

But in a materialistic way .

But by the end of the show ,Raman changes .

He loves Ishu too much that he accepted her the way she is .

ISHU’s chr sticks to being a simplistic person throughout the show .

Ishu treasured Raman ‘s sorry note .

She wore the bracelet GIVEN by him as a compensation as his daughter had accidentally broken it .

But she did not accept gifts from Raman / shagun /simmi/toshiji when she was in a position to do so (in the beginning of the show ).

It was simply showing how shagz n Ishu had a contrasting nature n Raman ,who was of the opinion that all woman can be purchased in one way or the other ,( after his failed marriage with shagz),accepts Ishu TOTALLY because Ishu never changed till the end .

❤️ Beautiful analysis. That's the essence of Yeh Hai Mohabbatein.

When was this bracelet scene... Pls remind me

Originally posted by: *Resham*

When was this bracelet scene... Pls remind me

Ruhi toothache time, ishita looks after n morning ishraru cones home, that time ishita bracelet gets broken n Raman gets new one..

Ishra first coffee date ..

I have some idea about a fanfiction on ishra but can't write it ,if anyone is interested to write this fanfiction

Originally posted by: GBSC

Hi Aditi ,Enjoyed your ideas n analysis .

You can easily convert them into OS .

All your ideas seem original .

There’s sometging that I have to say ,

Ishu gave away the dress that Raman wanted her to wear for shags wedding engagement to Ashok .N that gifting away of the earnings .

Ishu is a fictional chr .

According to her chr portrayal ,she was not the kind of person who valued materialistic pleasures .

Unlike shagun .

The main reason why she gave away her baby ( pihu ) to shagz after Raman ‘s outburst upon Ruhi’s death .

The more she loved a person ,the more she sacrificed for the sake of theIr happiness .If it was in her capacity .

Since you’ve already read those pages from IF ,I don’t have to repeat them .

In a way Raman too did the same .

But in a materialistic way .

But by the end of the show ,Raman changes .

He loves Ishu too much that he accepted her the way she is .

ISHU’s chr sticks to being a simplistic person throughout the show .

Ishu treasured Raman ‘s sorry note .

She wore the bracelet GIVEN by him as a compensation as his daughter had accidentally broken it .

But she did not accept gifts from Raman / shagun /simmi/toshiji when she was in a position to do so (in the beginning of the show ).

It was simply showing how shagz n Ishu had a contrasting nature n Raman ,who was of the opinion that all woman can be purchased in one way or the other ,( after his failed marriage with shagz),accepts Ishu TOTALLY because Ishu never changed till the end .

Thanks for your input. I see your point though. I can understand why Ishu gave away the dress but I still don't like that she gave away the earrings. She didn't want Mihika to have to bear Shagun's tantrums and she wasn't going to wear the dress anyway. But Raman gifted her the earrings with a lot of love. They were "khaandaani" earrings and Toshi wanted to make sure that Raman's real partner wear them. That's why Raman gifted them to her. If they didn't mean so much, Toshi wouldn't have taken back the earrings from Shagun when she left the house for Ashok. Those earrings weren't just expensive gifts, they had lots of emotions attached to them. If she would treasure a sorry card and a plastic ring with the letter R, then she should cherish these earrings as well. Not for their material value but for the emotional value. That's why it irked me. I mean if I give a loved one a gift that means a lot to me and then I see them give it away to someone else, it would hurt me. I was thinking that her giving the earrings away would hurt Toshi and Raman.

I get that she gave them away for Adi to feel that his mother is welcome in the family, but both Shagun and Adi were shown so evil that I couldn't sympathize with either at all. Again a reason why Adi should have been portrayed as an innocent, frightened, and timid child instead of being so malicious.

Originally posted by: Thor28

I have some idea about a fanfiction on ishra but can't write it ,if anyone is interested to write this fanfiction

I'd like to know your idea.

Originally posted by: UmeraTariq

I'd like to know your idea.

Hello ,i want to read a ff where raman is some thakur of village and lives there and helps the villagers and ishita is modern, live in abroad and visit raman's village to meet her friend who happens to be raman's sister/brother and something happen raman had to marry ishita forcefully and ishita dislike him as he is too traditional and judge her on dressing sense and ishita is very modern and raman too dislike her because she wears modern dresses and argue with him as ishita is strong headed girl and her parents also are modern and friendly with her can anyone write a fanfiction on this idea.

So here are the rest of my ideas. I hope you like them. Sorry once again for such long posts.

• During Vandu’s delivery we saw Raman, Romi, and Abhishek taking her to the hospital but I think the CVs overdid the comedy. Everyone was just shouting and screaming. I mean Raman is not only a smart, sharp CEO, he has also had two children. He must have taken Shagun to the hospital at least once. Plus Simi had a baby a few months before the show began and she was staying with the Bhallas so Raman must have dealt with her too. He should know how to take a woman in labor to the hospital. Even when they reached the hospital there was not a competent doctor ready to attend to Vandu. The doctor they showed was just for over the top comedy. They could have shown comedy in other ways. Maybe an inexperienced doctor comes to attend to Vandu and she refuses to get treated by him/her while Raman is trying to convince her to let the doctor attend to her, meanwhile pulling his hair out as to why all the Madrasi Iyer girls are so stubborn. Then Ishu comes in to save the day by attending to her akka.

• After that we had Romi-Sarika getting together and Ishra going to Mumbai where they are constantly interrupted. Rather than have Shagun meeting Raman here they could have just shown Shagun’s side story with her trying to establish her career. I know the ideal situation would be to end Shagun’s character but I’m going with this.

• In Mumbai, Ishra try to take their relationship forward but keep getting interrupted. I think they should have shown Ishita just as eager as Raman to take the next step (if you know what I mean). There was a scene where Raman takes Ishita to the coffee shop but run into Rinki-Mihir and then in the lawn where they run into Toshi-Omprakash Bhalla. Then in public, Raman pulls Ishita onto his lap saying he might as well romance her in public since she brings the family in when they’re in private. Here Ishita could have replied with a coy smile saying that if Rinki, Mihir, and Mr. and Mrs. Bhalla were downstairs then the room must be empty (wink-wink) and so both run upstairs.

• After coming back from Mumbai, we could have had a track where Raman and Ishita want to indulge in their relationship and spend intimate moments with each other in private without their families interrupting. So Raman convinces Ishita to meet outside chupke-chupke in hotels and restaurants for lunch dates, dinner dates, and night outs while lying to the family. Here we could have seen the big C here without any of Shagun or Ashok’s interference. A nice comedic track would have been if the families start doubting their absence. Like if Vandu-Bala find out that Ishu lied about some dental emergency or if Rinki-Mihir find out that Raman lied about some office meeting. The family members finding restaurant bills and hotel room receipts that don’t make sense. Iyers doubting Ishita and Bhallas doubting Raman of cheating. This way we have a new take where the Iyers take a stand for their daamaad and confront Ishita, and Bhallas take a stand for their bahu and confront Raman. In a huge confrontation the families find out that they were meeting each other only and that they are now husband wife in the true sense. Lots of teasing and embarrassment for Ishra. I got this idea from Veedeeann’s fanfiction on Wattpad.

• There was a whole track where the Bhalla family was against Ishra after Raman transferred his company to Ishita. Although in my version, Rinki wouldn’t be the vamp she was. Maybe Mr. Bhalla, Simi and Romi could misunderstand them while Mihir-Rinki stood with Ishra and supported them. In my version, Mihir-Rinki and Vandu-Bala are Ishra’s biggest support system. Also, in that track Raman left with his wife and kids and ended up staying in Iyer house. That didn’t make any sense. I mean if he can arrange two fully furnished flats overnight for both his families after a fire, I’m sure he can arrange one for his wife and kids when they need it. It would have been nice to see Ishraruadi living separately and the misunderstandings slowly clearing out with Ishita, Rinki, and Toshi’s help. Then they could return to Bhalla house with a full on filmy grahapravesh style.

• Then Romi and Sarika got married (which was fun) and Ishra got pregnant. I would have liked to see them trying to get pregnant with fertility treatments and IVF. It made no sense that Ishita conceived after only one night. Even normal couples take a long time of trying to conceive so Ishita should take even longer considering her medical history. They could have contributed a few episodes that showed a time lapse over a few months where Ishra were visiting fertility clinics and were trying to get pregnant. There was an episode like that in Brooklyn nine-nine where the lead couple were trying for a few months. And right when they were losing hope, Ishita conceives and Ishra rejoice. They tell the children first and then the whole family.

• For the miscarraige track, maybe it could have been all Ashok’s doing from jail via his henchmen to take revenge. Ishita suffers a miscarraige and is heartbroken but won’t show it to the family. Only the audience and Raman know of it as we see her break down in the confines of her bedroom. Her reaction in the show made no sense. She was over it so quickly. Here, instead of Raman being baby crazy via surrogacy, we could see him trying to convince Ishita for one more round of IVF and Ishita being too scared to go through but Raman encouraging her nonetheless since he knows this would be her greatest happiness. This is the Raman I wanted to see. One who fights the world for Ishita’s happiness, even Ishita herself. So Ishita agrees for one last round of treatment on the condition that they won’t tell the family since she doesn’t want to get their hopes up.

• I hated that they killed off Rinki. As I said before, Rinki and Mihir as a couple could have been Ishra’s biggest support system. Mihir was always doting over his bhai-bhabhi. And in the Bhalla house, Rinki was the only one other than Mr. Bhalla who supported Ishita during their early marriage days.

• For Pihu’s conception and birth, we could have had another pregnancy with Ishra where the last round of IVF worked. Although no one wanted surrogacy via Shagun, I’m going to propose a theory where surrogacy is possible without characters being butchered. Maybe the hospital where Ishra were undergoing IVF treatment is where Shagun comes as an undercover surrogate mother to stop the surrogacy scandal. Here, she is accidentally implanted with Ishra’s embryo so she ends up getting pregnant with Ishra’s baby (Pihu). When the truth comes out, Raman, Ishita, and Shagun are all horrified, but they make do because this is Ishra’s last chance to have a baby and plus Shagun's womb is more hospitable and stronger than Ishita's so it is a less risky and safer pregnancy. They somehow convince Shagun and the families to accept it. Here Shagun could be staying at Mihir’s place during her pregnancy or with her new live-in boyfriend (Dr. Manoj and any other colleague of hers). Raman doesn’t trust her completely so he brings legal papers and makes Shagun sign them saying she would have no right over the baby and only Ishra would be the legal parents/guardians. For drama purposes, there would be the potential to make a love triangle between Ishita-Raman-Shagun again and address Ishita’s insecurities as a wife and mother since she can’t carry her baby. Raman could help her get over these once and for all and help her accept that she is a complete woman and the perfect wife and mother.

• A fun way for Ishita to explain to Ruhi and Adi why her baby is in Shagun’s womb, would be through Balram’s story (Krishna’s elder brother). He was Vasudev-Devaki’s son but Rohini gave birth to him so similarly, the baby would be delivered by Shagun but would be Ishra’s baby.

• There were also so many other angles and tracks of the other characters that could have been explored. We know that Sarika leaves Romi in the show, so maybe we could see her fleeing and abandoning Romi and Rohit for some odd reason. Rohit could be Romi’s biological son and Romi rises to the occasion and raises him as a single father while dealing with his heartbreak. If we take the route where Rohit is not Romi’s real son, they could show Romi being so attached to him that he adopts him legally and then raises him. He stands up to Toshi saying that Rohit is his son even if he’s not his blood. This might have given Romi the long due redemption that he needed.

• This would also be a fun time to have Mihika reenter the show. They could show a brief triangle between Rinki-Mihir-Mihika for drama purposes. They could also show how exactly Romi and Mihika get together (since they do get married in the show). With the complicated history they shared, I never understood how they got together. They could have shown how Romi and Mihika grew close and fell in love. There is so much potential here and both Mihika Verma and Aly Goni did have chemistry.

• Vandu-Bala’s story could also have been explored like how they keep the romance alive after two kids or how they struggle with finances on their salaries now that they have two kids. Since Simi is single too, she could have been paired opposite someone if need be. Maybe someone from her school or place of work. As always, the banter between amma, appa, toshi and omi bhalla could have been shown more as it was fun to watch.

• There was the Pallavi track where Ishita was sentenced to death which I didn’t like but we did get a lot of Ishra scenes. Instead of bringing in the lawyer Chaddha, they could have shown Ashok’s revenge drama where he does some “gadbad” in RKB’s company which causes the police to arrest Raman but instead Ishita volunteers to go to jail since the company is in her name. There was such a sequence in BALH where Priya goes to jail instead of Ram. Ishita could be sentenced to death but saved in the nick of time by Raman proving her innocence and sending Ashok-Suraj to jail ending those characters for good.

• Subbu’s reentry could also have been used in a much better fashion where he enters to try to get Ishu back since his own marriage is crumbling or has ended. He believes that since Ishu is in a marriage of convenience, she isn’t happy with Raman. We could see another love triangle and tap into Raman’s insecurities. This would have been a great chance to show character development for Raman. In the Mani track he was so insecure and worried about his relationship with Ishu. Maybe when Subbu comes in, he is much more confident in his relationship with Ishita and trusts her completely. Subbu could challenge him directly too and still he would have unwavering faith in his wife. This idea comes from inspiration I got after reading ek_paheli’s fanfiction.

• There was always the memory loss track that could have been brought in before the leap. If Ishita was carrying baby Pihu then Raman could lose his memory and we could see Ishu bring it back with the help of Ruhi-Adi and the Bhallas and Iyers. The family would be supporting her unlike what we saw in the show where Simi-Param and Toshi were against her. Pregnant Ishu would recreate scenes from earlier days of her marriage to help Raman remember her. Raman would be confused as to why he feels attached to and worried for Ishita. Maybe he gets his memory with a bang right around the time the baby is born. So much potential for drama there.

• I think a track where Ishita loses her memory would be much more interesting. This would be in the case where Shagun is carrying baby Pihu. Ishita loses her memory of the past 2-3 years and thinks she is with Subbu and is going to get married to him. Subbu obviously leads her on and maybe Amma and Appa want her to forget Raman and marry Subbu because they blame him for Ishita’s memory loss. On the other hand Raman, Ruhi, Adi, Vandu-Bala, and the Bhallas try to bring back Ishu’s memory. Raman could be wooing Ishita back from square 1 while the kids and the Bhallas try to recreate scenes from their early marriage days or from before their marriage. This way we could see Raman courting Ishita, something we didn’t get to see them do before they got married. Ishu would be confused as to why she loves spending time and fighting with this guy. She would be perplexed as to why she feels such a strong connection and so much love for Ruhi and Adi. She could get her memory back in a bang right when she is about to get married to Subbu and instead runs to Raman in a bridal dress and reunites with him and her kids. Ishra get married again and go back to their house.

• Ishra’s baby’s birth could have been such a sweet track. If Shagun carries the baby then after delivering the baby she could leave with her boyfriend. This is the most that I can stretch her character.

• Once the baby is born we could have gotten so many sweet scenes of baby Pihu with Ishra and with Ishraruadi. The show could end on a happy note with Mihika-Romi’s wedding or with Simi’s second wedding or even just with Ishra’s baby’s birth. Or with Pihu’s first birthday or something.

• If a leap is taken I would have liked to see some changes. Both Ishita and Raman should have been angry with each other and both should have been guilty. All we saw was that Ishu was sad and guilty all the time and Raman was angry all the time. Maybe they got separated after a huge fight or after a family member’s death (maybe one of the children like Ananya or Rohit or one of the elders like Toshi or Mr. Bhalla). I would have liked to see Pihu be raised by Ishita. Like Ishu keeps Pihu and Raman keeps Ruhi and Adi. Or Ishu keeps Pihu and Ruhi and Raman keeps Adi. I felt so bad that she didn’t get to see any of her children grow up from when they were a baby. Plus if she had Pihu then she wouldn’t be living with Mani, she could just stay with the Iyers or alone with Pihu as a single mother. This way Shagun wouldn’t be Pihu’s mother in any sense and we wouldn’t have to deal with either Shagun or Mani for the rest of the show. Both their characters are done. I would also have liked to see Raman being a doting father to his children (whoever stays with him). This way we could see that he didn’t go back to his old ways like when he ignored Ruhi after Shagun left him. He is a doting father to his kids but misses Ishu terribly and drinks in her memories every night and hides his pain from his kids and family. Raman and Ishita could be reunited because of the kids (Adi, Ruhi, Pihu) but they have many heart-to-heart conversations, both apologize and confess that they missed each other, and have an emotional reunion “ek duje ke liye.” I was sick and tired of hearing them being together “Ruhi ke liye” or “Adi ke liye” or “chota Adi ke liye.” We could see Ishita reconnecting with the Bhallas and Raman reconnecting with Pihu and Ruhi. We could also see Pihu-Ruhi-Adi develop a special bond as siblings.

  Another idea for a leap is if either Ishita or Raman fall into a coma for a few years. In YRKKH, the male lead fell into a coma for four years and in BALH, the female lead fell into the coma for six-seven years.

So these are all the ideas I had. I cannot believe the writers of the show couldn’t think of anything like these. With tracks like these and others that so many fans have suggested and written fanfiction on, the show could have continued for 1-2 years at least before introducing a leap.

Please keep your feedback coming. I know some of you have suggested that I should write these up in fanfiction but I don’t know if I will. I don’t write very well and I’ll be pretty busy soon with school starting. If any of you want to take up an idea and write fanfiction just let me know. I’d be happy to read it :)