#SSR case : Karan Johar to be summoned by Mumbai Police! - Page 6

Originally posted by: Sashay01

I understand that you're hurt but I never forced my point of view.

But you just gave it off to me in a condescending way for even bringing up depression in the last thread, even though I was polite and not forcing my viewpoint. It was not nice and despite that, I still apologised and clarified. And I don't believe in "selling" suicide because I am not the police nor the CBI nor a forensic expert. And neither are you. Something we all should follow.

This entire case has been poorly handled by Mumbai police. What has being hurt has to do with the truth and evidence? Not for a minute Mumbai police is taking this as rivalry but since day 1 they have been taking this into suicide. You cannot force your judgement on others. Next time you quote me please come with a conversation that make sense. I am not a Sushant die hard fan but how this is handled is in a very poor taste and misuse of power. I do like people who misuse their power and bully others to make themselves look good. When you do these both things, know that truth is so close to be revealed.

P.s. please learn about depression before showing disrespect your depression patients. Not all depression have suicidal thoughts. I repeat that again. Not all depressed people have suicidal thoughts. We all are aware Sushant was going through depression and no one is denying it. Let the investigation take place and refrain for comments that could hurt members and their family members (if they visit here).

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

The marks on his forehead, the sharp red marks along his neck (which cannot come from hanging), you tongue falls out when you hang, Sushant's tongue was not out. They have said (now this is a conspiracy theory) that whoever leaked the pictures did it for this very reason. The cameras being shut down. There was a party at his house the night before (which would suggest at least that he is in good spirits), the four people who spent the night were outside when the servant came. The false statement made by the false doctor who said he was suffering from biopolar disorder. His actual doctor has said nothing keeping the confidentiality requirement in tact. The police giving the verdict on the spot is not allowed. There are have been experts who have come forward and said in a regular case they would be suspened. I doubt with India's justice system we will ever unearth the truth. That is why people are left to speculate because normally if the police were genuinely trying to uncover the truths they would be sharing facts that people could put together. Btw from recent reporting Sushant's family is not happy with the Mumbai police investigation.

These are not evidences that "we bring". Second, all suicide by hanging do not always present the exact same outcomes. Maybe read a few forensic studies like this one for starters. You'll see that neck markings can be different.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2090536X15000052

His body was sent for forensic testing which came out as no drugs in the body or no signs of struggle. They tested his body first-hand and not through 2 pictures. Also, they did not declare it to be a confirmed suicide. It's was just an initial verdict which is why the case still remains open for investigation. Sushant's sister was also there. What about that? She is the one that said he locked himself. About the fake doctor reports, those are all foul journalism play which have since been refuted and removed. As for marks on his forehead, I did not see any marks on his forehead other than the natural shadow of his skin. In alot of his unedited natural photos, you'll notice that he has slight darkness and indents on the corners of his forehead.

Anyways, I'll leave it at that. We do not know what happened but I will always go back to the fact that his own sister was present. And partying is not indicative of good spirit. That's a stretch.

Originally posted by: Bekind

This entire case has been poorly handled by Mumbai police. What has being hurt has to do with the truth and evidence? Not for a minute Mumbai police is taking this as rivalry but since day 1 they have been taking this into suicide. You cannot force your judgement on others. Next time you quote me please come with a conversation that make sense. I am not a Sushant die hard fan but how this is handled is in a very poor taste and misuse of power. I do like people who misuse their power and bully others to make themselves look good. When you do these both things, know that truth is so close to be revealed.

P.s. please learn about depression before showing disrespect your depression patients. Not all depression have suicidal thoughts. I repeat that again. Not all depressed people have suicidal thoughts. We all are aware Sushant was going through depression and no one is denying it. Let the investigation take place and refrain for comments that could hurt members and their family members (if they visit here).

Let's bury it here because you're obviously not reading what I wrote. In my previous thread about Rumi, I said I agreed that suicide and depression were not always linked. I was also very respectful to you while disagreeing but you were unnecessarily rude. How could you say that I didnt know anyone with depression or assume anything whatsoever about my experiences with it?? Moral outrage over SSR's death does not give you the upper hand to say whatever you want. Especially when you wilfully misunderstood what I said.

Anyway forget it. No point in this. Peace.

Originally posted by: Cookies..

These are not evidences that "we bring". Second, all suicide by hanging do not always present the exact same outcomes. Maybe read a few forensic studies like this one for starters. You'll see that neck markings can be different.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2090536X15000052

His body was sent for forensic testing which came out as no drugs in the body or no signs of struggle. They tested his body first-hand and not through 2 pictures. Also, they did not declare it to be a confirmed suicide. It's was just an initial verdict which is why the case still remains open for investigation. Sushant's sister was also there. What about that? She is the one that said he locked himself. About the fake doctor reports, those are all foul journalism play which have since been refuted and removed. As for marks on his forehead, I did not see any marks on his forehead other than the natural shadow of his skin. In alot of his unedited natural photos, you'll notice that he has slight darkness and indents on the corners of his forehead.

Anyways, I'll leave it at that. We do not know what happened but I will always go back to the fact that his own sister was present. And partying is not indicative of good spirit. That's a stretch.

Maybe not in all but in many it does. I don't trust the forensic report. I posted it that on the thread itself. They did not word it like that was the initial impression. They declared it a suicide. Many people including police officers have said it was wrong. I dont think the sister was there. The family is not happy with the probe. In the unedited pictures. Now we don't know which is which there is a brownish bruise on his forehead. From hanging with cloth like the police claim the marks around the neck cant be that sharp. Forensic investigators on the news have come and said that. As has the Nibhaya lawyer who is demanding a CBI inquiry.

The study also showed that tongue protrusion was more prevalent in certain causes of death, namely, hanging, burning, and drowning, but was never absolute.

The family actually does not like the DEPRESSION verdict nor are they happy with the probe that mumbai police are conducting.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00414-018-1981-7?shared-article-renderer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNoQBdofXCs

https://www.india.com/entertainment/bollywood-news-sushant-singh-rajput-suicide-case-nirbhayas-lawyer-seema-samridhi-questions-why-police-called-it-a-suicide-4089843/

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

https://www.india.com/entertainment/bollywood-news-sushant-singh-rajput-suicide-case-nirbhayas-lawyer-seema-samridhi-questions-why-police-called-it-a-suicide-4089843/

Great news. There should be a immediate transfer to CBI. Hopefully more people will talk about CBI.

Originally posted by: Bekind

Great news. There should be a immediate transfer to CBI. Hopefully more people will talk about CBI.

I agree with Cookies to some extent we can only speculate. That is what happens when the investigation is so shoddily done. But there are enough holes to point without speculating. But because people speculate the news or other people can investigate to verify their suspicions. But speculating to some extent is asking difficult questions? That is how to hold the powerful accountable?

Originally posted by: Cool_N_Cold

Kjo had links with pak Isi agent ,take away padma sri from him n take action