Abir - the family guy??? - Page 6

Originally posted by: MishBirStruck

Uru ka post aane waala hai 😆,the most neutral post karne waali kya ye maintain rakh paayegi considering she's abir's Uru 🤣

🤣🤣 I will hit you with mishti's danda okay 🤣

You can see what I have written 😆 upar dekh le

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Upar dekho, I tried my best to explain

dheka bhi aur pada bhi👏 ....bang on my darl ...wud lov to add my points also..coming up sooner dr 🤗

editing now...as i was at a loss of words when i read ur post yaaara (& still am I )...well i once told u u r stan worthy ..dont know u remember it or not..but i wud love to stand by my words 2day too darl ❤️

Originally posted by: Onyourface

🤣🤣 I will hit you with mishti's danda okay 🤣

You can see what I have written 😆 upar dekh le

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Loved it yaar Uru

Ruko reply deti 🤗

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Its amazing to see that abir's as an character is so intriguing that people are still discussing him even after two months of the show being on hold That actually makes me a happy fan

Okay , coming down from my happy lane , let me try to explain what I think about abir as a family man ?

Aqua , not sure why you picked up those scenes where abir as a character was at its weakest and and highlighted only some of his lines from those scenes and then trying to set an image of him that he isn't a family man ??? Allow me to to explain what happened before and after those scenes in detail

First of all , I don't see anywhere being obsessed with his father ? That is his struggle to find a man whom he was emotionally attached to when he was his child, think about it , abir hasn't spend just 3 or hours but a good 6 to 7 years with his baba, who used to teach him all these good things about spirituality, humanity to the extent that he shared his desire to make a school for underprivileged children in champaner , there have been so many such moments that would have created such am impact on abir's life that he actually decided to build that school as a tribute to his baba, drew towards the spiritual aspect of life and started helping the society in his own ways, in a way he was following his baba's ideologies , yes baba was a sham and we can't really blame abir for not seeing through, even meenu an adult with a strong mind if still fell for baba's charming works that abir was just a child then ? Undoubtedly, abir was very much emotionally attached to his father and him leaving away without any answer created a big hole in his heart

The reason his curiosity went af peak because his fade memories were totally in contrast with the story that contradicted ( infact they told him a wrong story which I will explain in later part of my post l As a child , when he asked where is his baba , he got slapped? For the longest time he kept asking but the only answer he got was " tumhare baba Hume chod ke chale Gaye " Arey bhai aage toh bolo , as a child, abir couldn't understand many things, I agree but in meenu's words " abir is neend mein bhi hoshiyar " so why not give this hoshiyar man , a son who is her abhimaan a chance to know the truth ? Infact , abir himself took a stand against baba in the end when he gets to know the entire truth and even apologised to meenu , and he could have done that earlier also is meenu and family had chosen to be honest to him, clearly he wasn't obsessed with baba , because if he was , he would have chosen baba over his family and ignored the facts !! Coming to obsession , obsession could me someone drinking high and trying to jump from the terrace ? Obsession is someone not getting over the past and hurting people in present in the most nastiest ways possible? Someone trying to hate someone just because their ego hot hurt after facing a rejection? But even that is not obsession for me , because just like others have their share of past to contribute to their emotions at present , so does abir !!!

Now coming to your naani shrad part , since you have seen the episodes you must be aware that abir had a strong reason to question naanu that day because mins before he got a call from his baba for the first time saying " I am helpless , I need you , I need my sons " ....how do you expect abir to take this statement? Should he remain calm and ignore it ?? You must have seen how much that phone call impacted him , he asked naanu is he father even alive ? Now he comes the twisted part , I have seen that reply 4 times and I don't know why naanu twisted it for him

"Bohot saal pehle company mein fraud Hua tha , jispe sabse zyada bharosa kiya tha Maine usne mujhe dhoka diya tha , koslu bohot chota tha , meenu tujhe leke yahan aa gayi meri madad karne "

"Aur baba ne madad karne se inkaar kar diya , yeh maa ka version hai mujhe sach janna hai nannu " says abir

So what did you figure out here? Naanu is giving a wrong story here , he is telling fraud Hua hai but isn't naming that the fraudster is baba , baba had some problem with meenu helping naanu, what problem ....?

infact the way abir completed the sentence makes me believe that meenu never let him knew that baba did the fraud , infact she only told baba Hume chod ke chale Gaye, so now imagine when baba came back and meenu and naanu showed him the proof that baba was only the fraudster, would abir believe anyone easily ? Wouldn't abir think ki pehle kuchh aur bola abhi kuchh aur , proofs the toh dikhaye kyun nahi ? Doesn't a child have the right to know about his father ? What wrong did he do to his mother ? Why the memories are so contradicting? Why are people lying and indirectly trying to stop him? Does his questioning make him an anti family man ? Especially when he can sense a layer of lies and manipulation around ? Btw talking about naani's shrad, I didn't see any other family man and family woman present there , can I assume no one cared about naani's shrad expect for abir and koslu ? No I won't!

Coming to abir filing an FIR , it was about someone calling him , addressing himself as his baba, the number getting out of reach after that phone call and meenu going to ganpati mandir all this just increased his curiosity and suspicion on meenu, that was the words he used on meenu ke at yeh sun ke kuchh toh bataye, he isn't like meenu who would send parul to jail to fulfill her selfish motives and ignore abir's emotional struggles , didn't even care about the new girl whose life would also get destroyed ?

abir didn't even know that naanu bimar hai , abir was in mahs house when naanu fell I'll, infact naanu was standing healthy in the next scene with abir , asking meenu to tell abir where baba is ....abir gave a fair chance to both naanu and meenu to explain their side , he even said he trusts naanu , but when he saw naanu lied to him about baba's whereabouts, what he is supposed to say? Can't he even ask why did you lie ? Meenu told him the wrong address , even sent a person behind him , always tried to hide things and conveniently lie , left no option for him but to venture out to find his answers on his own ? Why push him to that extent ? Abir said maa sahi ho sakti hai aur baba galat , par jooth kyun bol rahe ho ? He was ready to listen the truth , why weren't people ready to tell him the truth ?

And after all this , if that man finally breaks down in front of his family, tells him that he feels lost because there is no one around to understand his feelings and thoughts , no one to address his answers , someone has called him up and asked for his help , he is constantly facing lies and manipulations around, no one is caring enough to sit down and explain him , doesn't that person have all the rights to burst out his frustrations in front of his family members? Does that make him a drama queen? Yeh kaha ka logic hai , dusro ke tears is their emotional pain , dil pe laga dard etc etc etc , abir ka emotional outburst uska drama queen ....wah ji wah ji wah * slow claps * also I didn't when naanu told abir that his health is getting affected because of abir's obsession

Yes abir was definitely wrong in judging in baba, but is that his fault? Wasn't he made to believe certain things by baba , was he given a timely closure by meenu ? Was he totally wrong in finding some answers about his past ? Does a family member mean that you have to blindly follow your elders without even having the right to ask questions? Abir did cross his lines, but does that reduce him to being selfish, really ? So us hisab se toh saare hi selfish ho Gaye, family man woman raha hi kon?

Coming to man child , if a person makes mistakes, he tries to introspect , take stands for the right, tries to understand everyone, has highest levels of empathy, apologises when he realises that he went wrong rather than stupidly blaming others , gives chances to others , tries to look at the positive side and wants everyone to freely let their opinions and is an active observer in the journey of life , has 0 ego

, if all this makes him a man child then I am happy to stan this man child all my life!! Btw everyone is a child here , everyone is living a life and life is always a learning process , till your last breath so I really don't understand the concept of man child, who isn't here ?

Now coming to your final question, is family man ???

A person who can read her sister's eyes and can sense that something is wrong, her words don't match her eyes, she doesn't want to proceed with the rishta but has no idea how to deal with with it , who herself says its only abir who can help her , if for her he decides to leave his trip and is ready to go back home , help her sister explain her side , If this isn't a family man than who is he ?

A person who believes that isn't right for nanko to spend his life struggling between his mom and his brother, he wants to see his brother in a happy zone, who was always there for his brother like a father is there for a child , who always tried to understand him and bring him out of his blues, if he isn't a family man than who is he?

A brother in law who tried to understand kuku more than her own husband when she was getting divorced, gave her a shoulder to cry , inspired her to stop wasting her time and be independent, even helped her set up business, find her first client ( abir's friend neha ) even at times when he himself was dealing with a break up , where his own family members didn't even care to ask why is he wearing shades at home ? If he isn't a family man than who is he?

A person who was put into the most nastiest catch 22 situation, let the love of his go , didn't even take that 1% chance and choose his brother because he knew kunal's truth would shatter not only kunal but his whole family, decided to pay attention to parul's plea more than mishti , decided not to be "selfish" and take one for the family, if he isn't a family man who is he ?

He , who has suffered so much because of his mom's plans , physically, mentally and emotionally but still decided to let bygones by bygones and gave one chance to his mom and apni shaadi pe leke aaya clearly knowing that meenu is still on mishti hate mode, but still he did it for his family's happiness, if he isn't a family man , than who is he?

He , who has advised mishti long back to live separately, because he knew there are lot of complications that the family and mishti have with each other , so for happiness and peace of mishti and family if he takes this step , if he isn't a family man than who is he ?

Ah the latest one , he even tried to understand kuhu at her weakest , tried to make her understand in the sweetest way possible, even went against mishti on this , so that things don't sour in the family and meenu doesn't get an upper hand, if he isn't a family man than who is he ?

He decided to get parul a rightly deserved apology from kuhu , gets worried about her stand in the family, if he isn't a family man , who is he ?

Abir has always been there for all the family members when they need , he had his own struggles too , but he had never given them priority over his family, he himself says that when someone gets hurt in his family , he is the one who also feels the pain and he doesn't only say, he has shown it from his actions, many times !!

Just because he isn't a part of his family business or he hasn't given anyone a right to choose his partner , that makes him an anti family man?a

This is the biggest reason , his family tries to hold him around, he is like salt in the recipe , jab dish mein hota hai toh kisi ko kadar nahi hoti , kabhi salt ke bina dish banake dekhna, that will be the only ingredient that you will miss , no matter how much other ingredients try to make up , that's the reason they all tried to change his decision of living separately, somewhere abir is everyone's emotional guiding light

He calls himself banjara , he doesn't know that he actually is an anchor in everyone's life, just try to abir rajvansh house without abir , m sure many would not be able to imagine

I am very shocked that abir's emotions are made fun of sometimes by calling him a hot headed rebel who has an habit of leaving conversations midway, only if you realized that he does when he realises that there is actually no one around to understand him , to give him a shoulder to cry, to answer him ,

All I can see is his questioning eyes " why does my own family deceit me everytime I try to trust them ? What have i done to get such a treatment from my own ? "

Aqua , I am quite shocked with your take, you are someone who in interested to do ocean depth analysis on meenu kunal and kuhu , has such a take on abir at face value ? Who no ocean depth analysis for abir ? Why is he limited to hot headed banjara who is a rebel for no reason ?

Also , kudos to shaheer for taking up abir , he isn't just the best ML on ITV but I would say the best human being on ITV ( I need not elaborate this , samajh ne vale samajh Gaye )

and he is immensely loved by the audience who truly understand his character , certainly not the best but abir is one of the best characters that shaheer has played, it's so good to see the fun side , the nautanki side , the emotional side, the dances,

a full on paisa vasool character , if makers would have given more chances to abir to express his emotions in a detailed form , that would have been a cherry on the cake, I became a shaheer fan after this show only , abir will always remain special to me

PS: For the longest of time I kept myself away from such posts, but today I had to say, sorry If i offended anyone and was way too harsh for my replies .... but today I had to let it out, I don't mind the empathy and understanding of other characters , even I do that, but why no attempt to understand mishbir in the same way? Abir and mishti have their own set of flaws, and I accept them criticize them openly too when they go wrong but sometimes I believe that there is some misunderstanding around his character so I felt the need to speak up

Uru 🤗🤗🤗

Kitne time Baad aapki post padh rahi hu 🤗loved it

Honestly speaking I always saw Abir more of a right person than a family man, matlab he would never support his family agar Wo galat hai thinking about reputation and all. He has always been the right person who'll support right but he would never back out from loving his family, taking responsibility for them. We call Abir heera because of these things only, the way he loves everyone.

During baba track for the first time we witnessed the most vulnerable side of Abir Rajvansh, but the best thing was after that track too abir never changed his ideology which his baba had Teached him, the beautiful thoughts. That makes him a better person. He developed into an awesome human being by his experience and thinking in a way which his baba instilled in him ,that's why Mujhe last tak believe nahi ho raha tha baba villain kaise ho gaye🤣🤣

Anyway the points you mentioned about Abir being a Family Guy 🤗🤗loved it yaar 🤗🤗

That drama queen word really angered me but I didn't addressed it directly varna Kuch zyada bol deti 😅😅🙈🙈🙈

Loved the post Uru, bahut zyada bias tha towards abir Mazaa Aa gaya 🤣😉

Originally posted by: Onyourface

🤣🤣 I will hit you with mishti's danda okay 🤣

You can see what I have written 😆 upar dekh le

Uru it was amazing yaar...the way u explained the depth that Abir has is class apart..bang it on yaar..loved ur post entirely👏👏more power to u my girl...u rocked...🤗

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Its amazing to see that abir's as an character is so intriguing that people are still discussing him even after two months of the show being on hold That actually makes me a happy fan

Okay , coming down from my happy lane , let me try to explain what I think about abir as a family man ?

Aqua , not sure why you picked up those scenes where abir as a character was at its weakest and and highlighted only some of his lines from those scenes and then trying to set an image of him that he isn't a family man ??? Allow me to to explain what happened before and after those scenes in detail

First of all , I don't see anywhere being obsessed with his father ? That is his struggle to find a man whom he was emotionally attached to when he was his child, think about it , abir hasn't spend just 3 or hours but a good 6 to 7 years with his baba, who used to teach him all these good things about spirituality, humanity to the extent that he shared his desire to make a school for underprivileged children in champaner , there have been so many such moments that would have created such am impact on abir's life that he actually decided to build that school as a tribute to his baba, drew towards the spiritual aspect of life and started helping the society in his own ways, in a way he was following his baba's ideologies , yes baba was a sham and we can't really blame abir for not seeing through, even meenu an adult with a strong mind if still fell for baba's charming works that abir was just a child then ? Undoubtedly, abir was very much emotionally attached to his father and him leaving away without any answer created a big hole in his heart

The reason his curiosity went af peak because his fade memories were totally in contrast with the story that contradicted ( infact they told him a wrong story which I will explain in later part of my post l As a child , when he asked where is his baba , he got slapped? For the longest time he kept asking but the only answer he got was " tumhare baba Hume chod ke chale Gaye " Arey bhai aage toh bolo , as a child, abir couldn't understand many things, I agree but in meenu's words " abir is neend mein bhi hoshiyar " so why not give this hoshiyar man , a son who is her abhimaan a chance to know the truth ? Infact , abir himself took a stand against baba in the end when he gets to know the entire truth and even apologised to meenu , and he could have done that earlier also is meenu and family had chosen to be honest to him, clearly he wasn't obsessed with baba , because if he was , he would have chosen baba over his family and ignored the facts !! Coming to obsession , obsession could me someone drinking high and trying to jump from the terrace ? Obsession is someone not getting over the past and hurting people in present in the most nastiest ways possible? Someone trying to hate someone just because their ego hot hurt after facing a rejection? But even that is not obsession for me , because just like others have their share of past to contribute to their emotions at present , so does abir !!!

Now coming to your naani shrad part , since you have seen the episodes you must be aware that abir had a strong reason to question naanu that day because mins before he got a call from his baba for the first time saying " I am helpless , I need you , I need my sons " ....how do you expect abir to take this statement? Should he remain calm and ignore it ?? You must have seen how much that phone call impacted him , he asked naanu is he father even alive ? Now he comes the twisted part , I have seen that reply 4 times and I don't know why naanu twisted it for him

"Bohot saal pehle company mein fraud Hua tha , jispe sabse zyada bharosa kiya tha Maine usne mujhe dhoka diya tha , koslu bohot chota tha , meenu tujhe leke yahan aa gayi meri madad karne "

"Aur baba ne madad karne se inkaar kar diya , yeh maa ka version hai mujhe sach janna hai nannu " says abir

So what did you figure out here? Naanu is giving a wrong story here , he is telling fraud Hua hai but isn't naming that the fraudster is baba , baba had some problem with meenu helping naanu, what problem ....?

infact the way abir completed the sentence makes me believe that meenu never let him knew that baba did the fraud , infact she only told baba Hume chod ke chale Gaye, so now imagine when baba came back and meenu and naanu showed him the proof that baba was only the fraudster, would abir believe anyone easily ? Wouldn't abir think ki pehle kuchh aur bola abhi kuchh aur , proofs the toh dikhaye kyun nahi ? Doesn't a child have the right to know about his father ? What wrong did he do to his mother ? Why the memories are so contradicting? Why are people lying and indirectly trying to stop him? Does his questioning make him an anti family man ? Especially when he can sense a layer of lies and manipulation around ? Btw talking about naani's shrad, I didn't see any other family man and family woman present there , can I assume no one cared about naani's shrad expect for abir and koslu ? No I won't!

Coming to abir filing an FIR , it was about someone calling him , addressing himself as his baba, the number getting out of reach after that phone call and meenu going to ganpati mandir all this just increased his curiosity and suspicion on meenu, that was the words he used on meenu ke at yeh sun ke kuchh toh bataye, he isn't like meenu who would send parul to jail to fulfill her selfish motives and ignore abir's emotional struggles , didn't even care about the new girl whose life would also get destroyed ?

abir didn't even know that naanu bimar hai , abir was in mahs house when naanu fell I'll, infact naanu was standing healthy in the next scene with abir , asking meenu to tell abir where baba is ....abir gave a fair chance to both naanu and meenu to explain their side , he even said he trusts naanu , but when he saw naanu lied to him about baba's whereabouts, what he is supposed to say? Can't he even ask why did you lie ? Meenu told him the wrong address , even sent a person behind him , always tried to hide things and conveniently lie , left no option for him but to venture out to find his answers on his own ? Why push him to that extent ? Abir said maa sahi ho sakti hai aur baba galat , par jooth kyun bol rahe ho ? He was ready to listen the truth , why weren't people ready to tell him the truth ?

And after all this , if that man finally breaks down in front of his family, tells him that he feels lost because there is no one around to understand his feelings and thoughts , no one to address his answers , someone has called him up and asked for his help , he is constantly facing lies and manipulations around, no one is caring enough to sit down and explain him , doesn't that person have all the rights to burst out his frustrations in front of his family members? Does that make him a drama queen? Yeh kaha ka logic hai , dusro ke tears is their emotional pain , dil pe laga dard etc etc etc , abir ka emotional outburst uska drama queen ....wah ji wah ji wah * slow claps * also I didn't when naanu told abir that his health is getting affected because of abir's obsession

Yes abir was definitely wrong in judging in baba, but is that his fault? Wasn't he made to believe certain things by baba , was he given a timely closure by meenu ? Was he totally wrong in finding some answers about his past ? Does a family member mean that you have to blindly follow your elders without even having the right to ask questions? Abir did cross his lines, but does that reduce him to being selfish, really ? So us hisab se toh saare hi selfish ho Gaye, family man woman raha hi kon?

Coming to man child , if a person makes mistakes, he tries to introspect , take stands for the right, tries to understand everyone, has highest levels of empathy, apologises when he realises that he went wrong rather than stupidly blaming others , gives chances to others , tries to look at the positive side and wants everyone to freely let their opinions and is an active observer in the journey of life , has 0 ego

, if all this makes him a man child then I am happy to stan this man child all my life!! Btw everyone is a child here , everyone is living a life and life is always a learning process , till your last breath so I really don't understand the concept of man child, who isn't here ?

Now coming to your final question, is family man ???

A person who can read her sister's eyes and can sense that something is wrong, her words don't match her eyes, she doesn't want to proceed with the rishta but has no idea how to deal with with it , who herself says its only abir who can help her , if for her he decides to leave his trip and is ready to go back home , help her sister explain her side , If this isn't a family man than who is he ?

A person who believes that isn't right for nanko to spend his life struggling between his mom and his brother, he wants to see his brother in a happy zone, who was always there for his brother like a father is there for a child , who always tried to understand him and bring him out of his blues, if he isn't a family man than who is he?

A brother in law who tried to understand kuku more than her own husband when she was getting divorced, gave her a shoulder to cry , inspired her to stop wasting her time and be independent, even helped her set up business, find her first client ( abir's friend neha ) even at times when he himself was dealing with a break up , where his own family members didn't even care to ask why is he wearing shades at home ? If he isn't a family man than who is he?

A person who was put into the most nastiest catch 22 situation, let the love of his go , didn't even take that 1% chance and choose his brother because he knew kunal's truth would shatter not only kunal but his whole family, decided to pay attention to parul's plea more than mishti , decided not to be "selfish" and take one for the family, if he isn't a family man who is he ?

He , who has suffered so much because of his mom's plans , physically, mentally and emotionally but still decided to let bygones by bygones and gave one chance to his mom and apni shaadi pe leke aaya clearly knowing that meenu is still on mishti hate mode, but still he did it for his family's happiness, if he isn't a family man , than who is he?

He , who has advised mishti long back to live separately, because he knew there are lot of complications that the family and mishti have with each other , so for happiness and peace of mishti and family if he takes this step , if he isn't a family man than who is he ?

Ah the latest one , he even tried to understand kuhu at her weakest , tried to make her understand in the sweetest way possible, even went against mishti on this , so that things don't sour in the family and meenu doesn't get an upper hand, if he isn't a family man than who is he ?

He decided to get parul a rightly deserved apology from kuhu , gets worried about her stand in the family, if he isn't a family man , who is he ?

Abir has always been there for all the family members when they need , he had his own struggles too , but he had never given them priority over his family, he himself says that when someone gets hurt in his family , he is the one who also feels the pain and he doesn't only say, he has shown it from his actions, many times !!

Just because he isn't a part of his family business or he hasn't given anyone a right to choose his partner , that makes him an anti family man?a

This is the biggest reason , his family tries to hold him around, he is like salt in the recipe , jab dish mein hota hai toh kisi ko kadar nahi hoti , kabhi salt ke bina dish banake dekhna, that will be the only ingredient that you will miss , no matter how much other ingredients try to make up , that's the reason they all tried to change his decision of living separately, somewhere abir is everyone's emotional guiding light

He calls himself banjara , he doesn't know that he actually is an anchor in everyone's life, just try to abir rajvansh house without abir , m sure many would not be able to imagine

I am very shocked that abir's emotions are made fun of sometimes by calling him a hot headed rebel who has an habit of leaving conversations midway, only if you realized that he does when he realises that there is actually no one around to understand him , to give him a shoulder to cry, to answer him ,

All I can see is his questioning eyes " why does my own family deceit me everytime I try to trust them ? What have i done to get such a treatment from my own ? "

Aqua , I am quite shocked with your take, you are someone who in interested to do ocean depth analysis on meenu kunal and kuhu , has such a take on abir at face value ? Who no ocean depth analysis for abir ? Why is he limited to hot headed banjara who is a rebel for no reason ?

Also , kudos to shaheer for taking up abir , he isn't just the best ML on ITV but I would say the best human being on ITV ( I need not elaborate this , samajh ne vale samajh Gaye )

and he is immensely loved by the audience who truly understand his character , certainly not the best but abir is one of the best characters that shaheer has played, it's so good to see the fun side , the nautanki side , the emotional side, the dances,

a full on paisa vasool character , if makers would have given more chances to abir to express his emotions in a detailed form , that would have been a cherry on the cake, I became a shaheer fan after this show only , abir will always remain special to me

PS: For the longest of time I kept myself away from such posts, but today I had to say, sorry If i offended anyone and was way too harsh for my replies .... but today I had to let it out, I don't mind the empathy and understanding of other characters , even I do that, but why no attempt to understand mishbir in the same way? Abir and mishti have their own set of flaws, and I accept them criticize them openly too when they go wrong but sometimes I believe that there is some misunderstanding around his character so I felt the need to speak up

Hey Uru,

Awww.. You summed up every nuances at its best...

We can see that such topics brings out the best in fans and ends up with such lovely analysis in depth.

Your post answered every questions raised and it's gonna be the answer for any left over questions too😆

For this wonderful, bang on post you not only deserve the title "ABIR ki URU" but ABIR himself❤️🤗

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Its amazing to see that abir's as an character is so intriguing that people are still discussing him even after two months of the show being on hold That actually makes me a happy fan

Okay , coming down from my happy lane , let me try to explain what I think about abir as a family man ?

Aqua , not sure why you picked up those scenes where abir as a character was at its weakest and and highlighted only some of his lines from those scenes and then trying to set an image of him that he isn't a family man ??? Allow me to to explain what happened before and after those scenes in detail

First of all , I don't see anywhere being obsessed with his father ? That is his struggle to find a man whom he was emotionally attached to when he was his child, think about it , abir hasn't spend just 3 or hours but a good 6 to 7 years with his baba, who used to teach him all these good things about spirituality, humanity to the extent that he shared his desire to make a school for underprivileged children in champaner , there have been so many such moments that would have created such am impact on abir's life that he actually decided to build that school as a tribute to his baba, drew towards the spiritual aspect of life and started helping the society in his own ways, in a way he was following his baba's ideologies , yes baba was a sham and we can't really blame abir for not seeing through, even meenu an adult with a strong mind if still fell for baba's charming works that abir was just a child then ? Undoubtedly, abir was very much emotionally attached to his father and him leaving away without any answer created a big hole in his heart

The reason his curiosity went af peak because his fade memories were totally in contrast with the story that contradicted ( infact they told him a wrong story which I will explain in later part of my post l As a child , when he asked where is his baba , he got slapped? For the longest time he kept asking but the only answer he got was " tumhare baba Hume chod ke chale Gaye " Arey bhai aage toh bolo , as a child, abir couldn't understand many things, I agree but in meenu's words " abir is neend mein bhi hoshiyar " so why not give this hoshiyar man , a son who is her abhimaan a chance to know the truth ? Infact , abir himself took a stand against baba in the end when he gets to know the entire truth and even apologised to meenu , and he could have done that earlier also is meenu and family had chosen to be honest to him, clearly he wasn't obsessed with baba , because if he was , he would have chosen baba over his family and ignored the facts !! Coming to obsession , obsession could me someone drinking high and trying to jump from the terrace ? Obsession is someone not getting over the past and hurting people in present in the most nastiest ways possible? Someone trying to hate someone just because their ego hot hurt after facing a rejection? But even that is not obsession for me , because just like others have their share of past to contribute to their emotions at present , so does abir !!!

Now coming to your naani shrad part , since you have seen the episodes you must be aware that abir had a strong reason to question naanu that day because mins before he got a call from his baba for the first time saying " I am helpless , I need you , I need my sons " ....how do you expect abir to take this statement? Should he remain calm and ignore it ?? You must have seen how much that phone call impacted him , he asked naanu is he father even alive ? Now he comes the twisted part , I have seen that reply 4 times and I don't know why naanu twisted it for him

"Bohot saal pehle company mein fraud Hua tha , jispe sabse zyada bharosa kiya tha Maine usne mujhe dhoka diya tha , koslu bohot chota tha , meenu tujhe leke yahan aa gayi meri madad karne "

"Aur baba ne madad karne se inkaar kar diya , yeh maa ka version hai mujhe sach janna hai nannu " says abir

So what did you figure out here? Naanu is giving a wrong story here , he is telling fraud Hua hai but isn't naming that the fraudster is baba , baba had some problem with meenu helping naanu, what problem ....?

infact the way abir completed the sentence makes me believe that meenu never let him knew that baba did the fraud , infact she only told baba Hume chod ke chale Gaye, so now imagine when baba came back and meenu and naanu showed him the proof that baba was only the fraudster, would abir believe anyone easily ? Wouldn't abir think ki pehle kuchh aur bola abhi kuchh aur , proofs the toh dikhaye kyun nahi ? Doesn't a child have the right to know about his father ? What wrong did he do to his mother ? Why the memories are so contradicting? Why are people lying and indirectly trying to stop him? Does his questioning make him an anti family man ? Especially when he can sense a layer of lies and manipulation around ? Btw talking about naani's shrad, I didn't see any other family man and family woman present there , can I assume no one cared about naani's shrad expect for abir and koslu ? No I won't!

Coming to abir filing an FIR , it was about someone calling him , addressing himself as his baba, the number getting out of reach after that phone call and meenu going to ganpati mandir all this just increased his curiosity and suspicion on meenu, that was the words he used on meenu ke at yeh sun ke kuchh toh bataye, he isn't like meenu who would send parul to jail to fulfill her selfish motives and ignore abir's emotional struggles , didn't even care about the new girl whose life would also get destroyed ?

abir didn't even know that naanu bimar hai , abir was in mahs house when naanu fell I'll, infact naanu was standing healthy in the next scene with abir , asking meenu to tell abir where baba is ....abir gave a fair chance to both naanu and meenu to explain their side , he even said he trusts naanu , but when he saw naanu lied to him about baba's whereabouts, what he is supposed to say? Can't he even ask why did you lie ? Meenu told him the wrong address , even sent a person behind him , always tried to hide things and conveniently lie , left no option for him but to venture out to find his answers on his own ? Why push him to that extent ? Abir said maa sahi ho sakti hai aur baba galat , par jooth kyun bol rahe ho ? He was ready to listen the truth , why weren't people ready to tell him the truth ?

And after all this , if that man finally breaks down in front of his family, tells him that he feels lost because there is no one around to understand his feelings and thoughts , no one to address his answers , someone has called him up and asked for his help , he is constantly facing lies and manipulations around, no one is caring enough to sit down and explain him , doesn't that person have all the rights to burst out his frustrations in front of his family members? Does that make him a drama queen? Yeh kaha ka logic hai , dusro ke tears is their emotional pain , dil pe laga dard etc etc etc , abir ka emotional outburst uska drama queen ....wah ji wah ji wah * slow claps * also I didn't when naanu told abir that his health is getting affected because of abir's obsession

Yes abir was definitely wrong in judging in baba, but is that his fault? Wasn't he made to believe certain things by baba , was he given a timely closure by meenu ? Was he totally wrong in finding some answers about his past ? Does a family member mean that you have to blindly follow your elders without even having the right to ask questions? Abir did cross his lines, but does that reduce him to being selfish, really ? So us hisab se toh saare hi selfish ho Gaye, family man woman raha hi kon?

Coming to man child , if a person makes mistakes, he tries to introspect , take stands for the right, tries to understand everyone, has highest levels of empathy, apologises when he realises that he went wrong rather than stupidly blaming others , gives chances to others , tries to look at the positive side and wants everyone to freely let their opinions and is an active observer in the journey of life , has 0 ego

, if all this makes him a man child then I am happy to stan this man child all my life!! Btw everyone is a child here , everyone is living a life and life is always a learning process , till your last breath so I really don't understand the concept of man child, who isn't here ?

Now coming to your final question, is family man ???

A person who can read her sister's eyes and can sense that something is wrong, her words don't match her eyes, she doesn't want to proceed with the rishta but has no idea how to deal with with it , who herself says its only abir who can help her , if for her he decides to leave his trip and is ready to go back home , help her sister explain her side , If this isn't a family man than who is he ?

A person who believes that isn't right for nanko to spend his life struggling between his mom and his brother, he wants to see his brother in a happy zone, who was always there for his brother like a father is there for a child , who always tried to understand him and bring him out of his blues, if he isn't a family man than who is he?

A brother in law who tried to understand kuku more than her own husband when she was getting divorced, gave her a shoulder to cry , inspired her to stop wasting her time and be independent, even helped her set up business, find her first client ( abir's friend neha ) even at times when he himself was dealing with a break up , where his own family members didn't even care to ask why is he wearing shades at home ? If he isn't a family man than who is he?

A person who was put into the most nastiest catch 22 situation, let the love of his go , didn't even take that 1% chance and choose his brother because he knew kunal's truth would shatter not only kunal but his whole family, decided to pay attention to parul's plea more than mishti , decided not to be "selfish" and take one for the family, if he isn't a family man who is he ?

He , who has suffered so much because of his mom's plans , physically, mentally and emotionally but still decided to let bygones by bygones and gave one chance to his mom and apni shaadi pe leke aaya clearly knowing that meenu is still on mishti hate mode, but still he did it for his family's happiness, if he isn't a family man , than who is he?

He , who has advised mishti long back to live separately, because he knew there are lot of complications that the family and mishti have with each other , so for happiness and peace of mishti and family if he takes this step , if he isn't a family man than who is he ?

Ah the latest one , he even tried to understand kuhu at her weakest , tried to make her understand in the sweetest way possible, even went against mishti on this , so that things don't sour in the family and meenu doesn't get an upper hand, if he isn't a family man than who is he ?

He decided to get parul a rightly deserved apology from kuhu , gets worried about her stand in the family, if he isn't a family man , who is he ?

Abir has always been there for all the family members when they need , he had his own struggles too , but he had never given them priority over his family, he himself says that when someone gets hurt in his family , he is the one who also feels the pain and he doesn't only say, he has shown it from his actions, many times !!

Just because he isn't a part of his family business or he hasn't given anyone a right to choose his partner , that makes him an anti family man?a

This is the biggest reason , his family tries to hold him around, he is like salt in the recipe , jab dish mein hota hai toh kisi ko kadar nahi hoti , kabhi salt ke bina dish banake dekhna, that will be the only ingredient that you will miss , no matter how much other ingredients try to make up , that's the reason they all tried to change his decision of living separately, somewhere abir is everyone's emotional guiding light

He calls himself banjara , he doesn't know that he actually is an anchor in everyone's life, just try to abir rajvansh house without abir , m sure many would not be able to imagine

I am very shocked that abir's emotions are made fun of sometimes by calling him a hot headed rebel who has an habit of leaving conversations midway, only if you realized that he does when he realises that there is actually no one around to understand him , to give him a shoulder to cry, to answer him ,

All I can see is his questioning eyes " why does my own family deceit me everytime I try to trust them ? What have i done to get such a treatment from my own ? "

Aqua , I am quite shocked with your take, you are someone who in interested to do ocean depth analysis on meenu kunal and kuhu , has such a take on abir at face value ? Who no ocean depth analysis for abir ? Why is he limited to hot headed banjara who is a rebel for no reason ?

Also , kudos to shaheer for taking up abir , he isn't just the best ML on ITV but I would say the best human being on ITV ( I need not elaborate this , samajh ne vale samajh Gaye )

and he is immensely loved by the audience who truly understand his character , certainly not the best but abir is one of the best characters that shaheer has played, it's so good to see the fun side , the nautanki side , the emotional side, the dances,

a full on paisa vasool character , if makers would have given more chances to abir to express his emotions in a detailed form , that would have been a cherry on the cake, I became a shaheer fan after this show only , abir will always remain special to me

PS: For the longest of time I kept myself away from such posts, but today I had to say, sorry If i offended anyone and was way too harsh for my replies .... but today I had to let it out, I don't mind the empathy and understanding of other characters , even I do that, but why no attempt to understand mishbir in the same way? Abir and mishti have their own set of flaws, and I accept them criticize them openly too when they go wrong but sometimes I believe that there is some misunderstanding around his character so I felt the need to speak up

Bang On darling URU...

I you love ❤️ for this.

I think that every human being is and should be allowed to make their own decisions, whether they are right or wrong. This is the basic premise where there is a tug of war between Abir and Meenu. Meenu should have trusted Abir with the truth, inspite of it being bitter. But she didn’t trust her Son. So, when baba came with his version of truth, why would’nt Abir believe him. Ek chance toh definitely dega woh apne baba ko. Mind you he also knew how manipulative his mother is. So whatever he did during baba track, Abir is not to be blamed. Yes he was vulnerable, desperate and sometimes wrong, but he was not coming from a place of malice, insecurity or insensitivity. So, not just a family guy, he is the epitome of the family guy...

And I don’t understand the demonizing if mishbir that some people attempt. It is as if they are not allowed to be vulnerable, not have low points, not make any mistakes. They just want to cut some slack for the supporting characters. When kuhu falters and makes mistakes/crimes, it’s bcoz she was neglected in childhood by her grandparents, so it’s only human that she does things.. but she is still a family loving, straight forward and not drama seeking, self made, blah blah blah girl who needs people to love her.. I mean all she needs is understanding when she has made zero sacrifice for anybody. But mishbir, who have been put under innumerable testing times and made to sacrifice time n again, don’t deserve any ounce of understanding or sympathy. What kind of twisted logic is that.

Abir is the best character in all ITV dramas and Shaheer has selected This drama very Aptly.

Originally posted by: Appu1981

I think that every human being is and should be allowed to make their own decisions, whether they are right or wrong. This is the basic premise where there is a tug of war between Abir and Meenu. Meenu should have trusted Abir with the truth, inspite of it being bitter. But she didn’t trust her Son. So, when baba came with his version of truth, why would’nt Abir believe him. Ek chance toh definitely dega woh apne baba ko. Mind you he also knew how manipulative his mother is. So whatever he did during baba track, Abir is not to be blamed. Yes he was vulnerable, desperate and sometimes wrong, but he was not coming from a place of malice, insecurity or insensitivity. So, not just a family guy, he is the epitome of the family guy...

And I don’t understand the demonizing if mishbir that some people attempt. It is as if they are not allowed to be vulnerable, not have low points, not make any mistakes. They just want to cut some slack for the supporting characters. When kuhu falters and makes mistakes/crimes, it’s bcoz she was neglected in childhood by her grandparents, so it’s only human that she does things.. but she is still a family loving, straight forward and not drama seeking, self made, blah blah blah girl who needs people to love her.. I mean all she needs is understanding when she has made zero sacrifice for anybody. But mishbir, who have been put under innumerable testing times and made to sacrifice time n again, don’t deserve any ounce of understanding or sympathy. What kind of twisted logic is that.

Abir is the best character in all ITV dramas and Shaheer has selected This drama very Aptly.

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Originally posted by: Onyourface

Its amazing to see that abir's as an character is so intriguing that people are still discussing him even after two months of the show being on hold That actually makes me a happy fan

Okay , coming down from my happy lane , let me try to explain what I think about abir as a family man ?

Aqua , not sure why you picked up those scenes where abir as a character was at its weakest and and highlighted only some of his lines from those scenes and then trying to set an image of him that he isn't a family man ??? Allow me to to explain what happened before and after those scenes in detail

First of all , I don't see anywhere being obsessed with his father ? That is his struggle to find a man whom he was emotionally attached to when he was his child, think about it , abir hasn't spend just 3 or hours but a good 6 to 7 years with his baba, who used to teach him all these good things about spirituality, humanity to the extent that he shared his desire to make a school for underprivileged children in champaner , there have been so many such moments that would have created such am impact on abir's life that he actually decided to build that school as a tribute to his baba, drew towards the spiritual aspect of life and started helping the society in his own ways, in a way he was following his baba's ideologies , yes baba was a sham and we can't really blame abir for not seeing through, even meenu an adult with a strong mind if still fell for baba's charming works that abir was just a child then ? Undoubtedly, abir was very much emotionally attached to his father and him leaving away without any answer created a big hole in his heart

The reason his curiosity went af peak because his fade memories were totally in contrast with the story that contradicted ( infact they told him a wrong story which I will explain in later part of my post l As a child , when he asked where is his baba , he got slapped? For the longest time he kept asking but the only answer he got was " tumhare baba Hume chod ke chale Gaye " Arey bhai aage toh bolo , as a child, abir couldn't understand many things, I agree but in meenu's words " abir is neend mein bhi hoshiyar " so why not give this hoshiyar man , a son who is her abhimaan a chance to know the truth ? Infact , abir himself took a stand against baba in the end when he gets to know the entire truth and even apologised to meenu , and he could have done that earlier also is meenu and family had chosen to be honest to him, clearly he wasn't obsessed with baba , because if he was , he would have chosen baba over his family and ignored the facts !! Coming to obsession , obsession could me someone drinking high and trying to jump from the terrace ? Obsession is someone not getting over the past and hurting people in present in the most nastiest ways possible? Someone trying to hate someone just because their ego hot hurt after facing a rejection? But even that is not obsession for me , because just like others have their share of past to contribute to their emotions at present , so does abir !!!

Now coming to your naani shrad part , since you have seen the episodes you must be aware that abir had a strong reason to question naanu that day because mins before he got a call from his baba for the first time saying " I am helpless , I need you , I need my sons " ....how do you expect abir to take this statement? Should he remain calm and ignore it ?? You must have seen how much that phone call impacted him , he asked naanu is he father even alive ? Now he comes the twisted part , I have seen that reply 4 times and I don't know why naanu twisted it for him

"Bohot saal pehle company mein fraud Hua tha , jispe sabse zyada bharosa kiya tha Maine usne mujhe dhoka diya tha , koslu bohot chota tha , meenu tujhe leke yahan aa gayi meri madad karne "

"Aur baba ne madad karne se inkaar kar diya , yeh maa ka version hai mujhe sach janna hai nannu " says abir

So what did you figure out here? Naanu is giving a wrong story here , he is telling fraud Hua hai but isn't naming that the fraudster is baba , baba had some problem with meenu helping naanu, what problem ....?

infact the way abir completed the sentence makes me believe that meenu never let him knew that baba did the fraud , infact she only told baba Hume chod ke chale Gaye, so now imagine when baba came back and meenu and naanu showed him the proof that baba was only the fraudster, would abir believe anyone easily ? Wouldn't abir think ki pehle kuchh aur bola abhi kuchh aur , proofs the toh dikhaye kyun nahi ? Doesn't a child have the right to know about his father ? What wrong did he do to his mother ? Why the memories are so contradicting? Why are people lying and indirectly trying to stop him? Does his questioning make him an anti family man ? Especially when he can sense a layer of lies and manipulation around ? Btw talking about naani's shrad, I didn't see any other family man and family woman present there , can I assume no one cared about naani's shrad expect for abir and koslu ? No I won't!

Coming to abir filing an FIR , it was about someone calling him , addressing himself as his baba, the number getting out of reach after that phone call and meenu going to ganpati mandir all this just increased his curiosity and suspicion on meenu, that was the words he used on meenu ke at yeh sun ke kuchh toh bataye, he isn't like meenu who would send parul to jail to fulfill her selfish motives and ignore abir's emotional struggles , didn't even care about the new girl whose life would also get destroyed ?

abir didn't even know that naanu bimar hai , abir was in mahs house when naanu fell I'll, infact naanu was standing healthy in the next scene with abir , asking meenu to tell abir where baba is ....abir gave a fair chance to both naanu and meenu to explain their side , he even said he trusts naanu , but when he saw naanu lied to him about baba's whereabouts, what he is supposed to say? Can't he even ask why did you lie ? Meenu told him the wrong address , even sent a person behind him , always tried to hide things and conveniently lie , left no option for him but to venture out to find his answers on his own ? Why push him to that extent ? Abir said maa sahi ho sakti hai aur baba galat , par jooth kyun bol rahe ho ? He was ready to listen the truth , why weren't people ready to tell him the truth ?

And after all this , if that man finally breaks down in front of his family, tells him that he feels lost because there is no one around to understand his feelings and thoughts , no one to address his answers , someone has called him up and asked for his help , he is constantly facing lies and manipulations around, no one is caring enough to sit down and explain him , doesn't that person have all the rights to burst out his frustrations in front of his family members? Does that make him a drama queen? Yeh kaha ka logic hai , dusro ke tears is their emotional pain , dil pe laga dard etc etc etc , abir ka emotional outburst uska drama queen ....wah ji wah ji wah * slow claps * also I didn't when naanu told abir that his health is getting affected because of abir's obsession

Yes abir was definitely wrong in judging in baba, but is that his fault? Wasn't he made to believe certain things by baba , was he given a timely closure by meenu ? Was he totally wrong in finding some answers about his past ? Does a family member mean that you have to blindly follow your elders without even having the right to ask questions? Abir did cross his lines, but does that reduce him to being selfish, really ? So us hisab se toh saare hi selfish ho Gaye, family man woman raha hi kon?

Coming to man child , if a person makes mistakes, he tries to introspect , take stands for the right, tries to understand everyone, has highest levels of empathy, apologises when he realises that he went wrong rather than stupidly blaming others , gives chances to others , tries to look at the positive side and wants everyone to freely let their opinions and is an active observer in the journey of life , has 0 ego

, if all this makes him a man child then I am happy to stan this man child all my life!! Btw everyone is a child here , everyone is living a life and life is always a learning process , till your last breath so I really don't understand the concept of man child, who isn't here ?

Now coming to your final question, is family man ???

A person who can read her sister's eyes and can sense that something is wrong, her words don't match her eyes, she doesn't want to proceed with the rishta but has no idea how to deal with with it , who herself says its only abir who can help her , if for her he decides to leave his trip and is ready to go back home , help her sister explain her side , If this isn't a family man than who is he ?

A person who believes that isn't right for nanko to spend his life struggling between his mom and his brother, he wants to see his brother in a happy zone, who was always there for his brother like a father is there for a child , who always tried to understand him and bring him out of his blues, if he isn't a family man than who is he?

A brother in law who tried to understand kuku more than her own husband when she was getting divorced, gave her a shoulder to cry , inspired her to stop wasting her time and be independent, even helped her set up business, find her first client ( abir's friend neha ) even at times when he himself was dealing with a break up , where his own family members didn't even care to ask why is he wearing shades at home ? If he isn't a family man than who is he?

A person who was put into the most nastiest catch 22 situation, let the love of his go , didn't even take that 1% chance and choose his brother because he knew kunal's truth would shatter not only kunal but his whole family, decided to pay attention to parul's plea more than mishti , decided not to be "selfish" and take one for the family, if he isn't a family man who is he ?

He , who has suffered so much because of his mom's plans , physically, mentally and emotionally but still decided to let bygones by bygones and gave one chance to his mom and apni shaadi pe leke aaya clearly knowing that meenu is still on mishti hate mode, but still he did it for his family's happiness, if he isn't a family man , than who is he?

He , who has advised mishti long back to live separately, because he knew there are lot of complications that the family and mishti have with each other , so for happiness and peace of mishti and family if he takes this step , if he isn't a family man than who is he ?

Ah the latest one , he even tried to understand kuhu at her weakest , tried to make her understand in the sweetest way possible, even went against mishti on this , so that things don't sour in the family and meenu doesn't get an upper hand, if he isn't a family man than who is he ?

He decided to get parul a rightly deserved apology from kuhu , gets worried about her stand in the family, if he isn't a family man , who is he ?

Abir has always been there for all the family members when they need , he had his own struggles too , but he had never given them priority over his family, he himself says that when someone gets hurt in his family , he is the one who also feels the pain and he doesn't only say, he has shown it from his actions, many times !!

Just because he isn't a part of his family business or he hasn't given anyone a right to choose his partner , that makes him an anti family man?a

This is the biggest reason , his family tries to hold him around, he is like salt in the recipe , jab dish mein hota hai toh kisi ko kadar nahi hoti , kabhi salt ke bina dish banake dekhna, that will be the only ingredient that you will miss , no matter how much other ingredients try to make up , that's the reason they all tried to change his decision of living separately, somewhere abir is everyone's emotional guiding light

He calls himself banjara , he doesn't know that he actually is an anchor in everyone's life, just try to abir rajvansh house without abir , m sure many would not be able to imagine

I am very shocked that abir's emotions are made fun of sometimes by calling him a hot headed rebel who has an habit of leaving conversations midway, only if you realized that he does when he realises that there is actually no one around to understand him , to give him a shoulder to cry, to answer him ,

All I can see is his questioning eyes " why does my own family deceit me everytime I try to trust them ? What have i done to get such a treatment from my own ? "

Aqua , I am quite shocked with your take, you are someone who in interested to do ocean depth analysis on meenu kunal and kuhu , has such a take on abir at face value ? Who no ocean depth analysis for abir ? Why is he limited to hot headed banjara who is a rebel for no reason ?

Also , kudos to shaheer for taking up abir , he isn't just the best ML on ITV but I would say the best human being on ITV ( I need not elaborate this , samajh ne vale samajh Gaye )

and he is immensely loved by the audience who truly understand his character , certainly not the best but abir is one of the best characters that shaheer has played, it's so good to see the fun side , the nautanki side , the emotional side, the dances,

a full on paisa vasool character , if makers would have given more chances to abir to express his emotions in a detailed form , that would have been a cherry on the cake, I became a shaheer fan after this show only , abir will always remain special to me

PS: For the longest of time I kept myself away from such posts, but today I had to say, sorry If i offended anyone and was way too harsh for my replies .... but today I had to let it out, I don't mind the empathy and understanding of other characters , even I do that, but why no attempt to understand mishbir in the same way? Abir and mishti have their own set of flaws, and I accept them criticize them openly too when they go wrong but sometimes I believe that there is some misunderstanding around his character so I felt the need to speak up

kya kidkithid post kiya...

no one can understand and explain abir like u...

i agree each and everything what u said...

abir is the best ITV ML and we love him for everything he does...

none can beat him and i really want to see abir's emotional side and pain...