The Doctor’s Plight ...inspired from Ramayan - Page 2

I think you're misunderstanding the whole message behind this scene. What happened in Ramayana has nothing to do with the plight of doctors in India today. That is due to the horrible laws that do not protect the doctors when patients find loopholes in them.

The whole meaning behind Hanuman bringing Sushena to Rama is to teach humanity the true meaning behind being a doctor. No doctor should ever discriminate between two patients, no matter their caste/color/ethnicity, etc. This is actually a very progressive teaching for that era, and one of my favorite lessons from the Ramayana. Sushena was a good doctor, but he believed his loyalty was towards Ravan and Lanka. Even in the Vedas, there is an oath for doctors similar to the Hippocrates oath, in which they vow to treat any and every patient regardless of caste and disease. Sushena forgot that oath and refused to treat Lakshmana, and thus Rama reminded him of his duty as a doctor in gentle terms. Neither Rama nor Hanuman were abusive to him. Hanuman brought Sushena's house along with him, but for Hanuman that is such a small feat, and he replaced the house back once Lakshman was revived (they did show this scene in the show btw...maybe it was edited out later on but it's in my dvds). So it's not like Sushena lost his housing or anything. It's also mentioned in Ramayana that Sushena continued to be the Raj Vaidya even after Vibhishan became King, so his life wasn't affected in any way. Some versions of Ramayana do mention he was imprisoned by Ravan, but isn't there a message behind that also?

After all, doctors are in a risky field just like soldiers/warriors. Sometimes, when one is supporting a good cause, there is a risk of imprisonment when the government (an unjust King) is against the good cause. During those times, isn't it the duty of doctors to treat a patient regardless of the risk? Just like doctors today are treating patients testing positive for Covid-19. There is a risk of those doctors dying themselves, but they are fulfilling the duty they have towards their oath and their very field.

That is the basic message behind this Sanjeevani incident. A doctor who makes an oath to treat a human life must fulfill that oath no matter the risks required. If a doctor cannot do that or does not wish to do that, or if a doctor has his personal biases and refuses to treat a sick patient for any reason, he has no business being in that field. My sister is a medical student and this is something they teach in her school also. They tell the students don't become a doctor because it seems like a lucrative field and you'll make a lot of money. Only become one if you have the guts to do your job even when it's difficult and scary. It's not an easy field, but it's a very valuable one.

Also, Rama, Lakshmana and Hanuman all give Sushena credit for what he did. Rama himself says that by giving life to Lakshmana, Sushena revived his own life. BUT Hanuman gets credit too, because he wan't an ordinary monkey who got the Sanjeevani mountain just because Sushena told him to. He is the God who makes the impossible possible. Sushena himself declared there was no hope for reviving Lakshmana unless they had the Sanjeevani. As a doctor, he could do nothing unless he had the medicinal plant. By bringing the medicinal plant, Hanuman made an impossible task possible.

Even in human terms, this is the same as doctors prescribing medicines and vaccines that are created by the scientists. Doctors don't make medicines. They treat a patient but they need medicines to do that. These scientists/pharmacists are like Hanuman, who make the appropriate medicines available to doctors in order to treat the patients.

So no, credit never goes to the doctor alone. There is a whole Medical team that is always responsible for the recovery of a patient. By giving credit to Hanuman, we are honoring every individual who plays a role in the Medical team, from the janitor who keeps the hospital clean and sterile to the surgeon who performs the actual surgery.

The doctor is simply the doer, but without God's guiding hand, even he cannot perform his duty, and that is the whole meaning behind Sushena's story.

Absolutely agree on all points, Janu 👏 The incident is actually meant to honor doctors and the divine responsibility they undertake. Ramanand Sagar's dialogues practically have God calling the physician God, couldn't get anymore honor than that! It's just that the emphasis of Sushen's scenes is more about duty and responsibility, as Janu said, than on stopping the action for a big grand thank you. Hanuman gets a quick thank you at the end because he *just* brought a whole mountain in a record-breaking amount of time, but it's not a big elaborate time-consuming dialogue that we would have the time to hear a thank you for everyone 😆 I found it heartwarming that most twitter users saw the episode as a much-needed reinforcement of the sacredness of the medical profession, as it was meant to be.

Originally posted by: RamKiSeeta

I think you're misunderstanding the whole message behind this scene. What happened in Ramayana has nothing to do with the plight of doctors in India today. That is due to the horrible laws that do not protect the doctors when patients find loopholes in them.

The whole meaning behind Hanuman bringing Sushena to Rama is to teach humanity the true meaning behind being a doctor. No doctor should ever discriminate between two patients, no matter their caste/color/ethnicity, etc. This is actually a very progressive teaching for that era, and one of my favorite lessons from the Ramayana. Sushena was a good doctor, but he believed his loyalty was towards Ravan and Lanka. Even in the Vedas, there is an oath for doctors similar to the Hippocrates oath, in which they vow to treat any and every patient regardless of caste and disease. Sushena forgot that oath and refused to treat Lakshmana, and thus Rama reminded him of his duty as a doctor in gentle terms. Neither Rama nor Hanuman were abusive to him. Hanuman brought Sushena's house along with him, but for Hanuman that is such a small feat, and he replaced the house back once Lakshman was revived (they did show this scene in the show btw...maybe it was edited out later on but it's in my dvds). So it's not like Sushena lost his housing or anything. It's also mentioned in Ramayana that Sushena continued to be the Raj Vaidya even after Vibhishan became King, so his life wasn't affected in any way. Some versions of Ramayana do mention he was imprisoned by Ravan, but isn't there a message behind that also?

After all, doctors are in a risky field just like soldiers/warriors. Sometimes, when one is supporting a good cause, there is a risk of imprisonment when the government (an unjust King) is against the good cause. During those times, isn't it the duty of doctors to treat a patient regardless of the risk? Just like doctors today are treating patients testing positive for Covid-19. There is a risk of those doctors dying themselves, but they are fulfilling the duty they have towards their oath and their very field.

That is the basic message behind this Sanjeevani incident. A doctor who makes an oath to treat a human life must fulfill that oath no matter the risks required. If a doctor cannot do that or does not wish to do that, or if a doctor has his personal biases and refuses to treat a sick patient for any reason, he has no business being in that field. My sister is a medical student and this is something they teach in her school also. They tell the students don't become a doctor because it seems like a lucrative field and you'll make a lot of money. Only become one if you have the guts to do your job even when it's difficult and scary. It's not an easy field, but it's a very valuable one.

thanks for your detailed post

I loved reading it

Originally posted by: RamKiSeeta

Also, Rama, Lakshmana and Hanuman all give Sushena credit for what he did. Rama himself says that by giving life to Lakshmana, Sushena revived his own life. BUT Hanuman gets credit too, because he wan't an ordinary monkey who got the Sanjeevani mountain just because Sushena told him to. He is the God who makes the impossible possible. Sushena himself declared there was no hope for reviving Lakshmana unless they had the Sanjeevani. As a doctor, he could do nothing unless he had the medicinal plant. By bringing the medicinal plant, Hanuman made an impossible task possible.

Even in human terms, this is the same as doctors prescribing medicines and vaccines that are created by the scientists. Doctors don't make medicines. They treat a patient but they need medicines to do that. These scientists/pharmacists are like Hanuman, who make the appropriate medicines available to doctors in order to treat the patients.

So no, credit never goes to the doctor alone. There is a whole Medical team that is always responsible for the recovery of a patient. By giving credit to Hanuman, we are honoring every individual who plays a role in the Medical team, from the janitor who keeps the hospital clean and sterile to the surgeon who performs the actual surgery.

The doctor is simply the doer, but without God's guiding hand, even he cannot perform his duty, and that is the whole meaning behind Sushena's story.

I am feeling inspired by your post

thanks

Distance from Sri Lanka to drongiri parvat( situated at northern side of Himalaya in Uttarakhand ) around 2000 km . It was very far

It might have taken 1 week to take herb from Himalaya and return to Lanka if another person went to fetch herb instead of hanuman and then can be life hazard for laxman if herb reach to sushen after 1 week

As sushen told we had to get herbs with in few hrs other wise laxman life can be more in dangerous if we can't get herbs with in 4 hrs

Few hrs means it can be around 7,8 hrs

Bringing sanjivini herb with in 7 , 8 hrs that too from 2000 km was really impossible task but hanuman the only one could do this

So hanuman able to bring herb vwith in one day that before sunrise from such long distance

How ever I read that hanuman even capture sun so that sun could not rise

At least they didn't spit on or didn't threw stones of Sushen.

Khair Treta Yug me importance nhi Di to Kaliyuga Waale to aur giri hui harkat karenge hi

I had originally taken this post as a sarcastic post on what is happening in India today. This seems a serious discussion here

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

At least they didn't spit on or didn't threw stones of Sushen.

Khair Treta Yug me importance nhi Di to Kaliyuga Waale to aur giri hui harkat karenge hi

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I had originally taken this post as a sarcastic post on what is happening in India today. This seems a serious discussion here

Bahut bahut serious baat hai dear ..