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Posted: 5 years ago
#31

Excellent post Anu👍🏼and much needed..pls post it on twitter and in insta too tagging makers😃

Thanks for making this post..we have fallen in love with the show becoz of mishbir..makers weaved a beautiful love story of mishbir..their journey was amazing from strangers to husband and wife..but after marriage there is no focus on leads they are treating them as sidies and more importance given to supporting characters...after marriage there is only family time and drama planning and plotting

Cant even forget that leads marriage was given least importance in this show..this is the first ITV show were leads marriage as treated as sidies..there was no focus on them..only saving grace in the marriage episodes was excellent performance by shaheer/rhea..eventhough they were not given importance but by their performance and with perfect emotions they made the scenes look amazing and unique👍🏼

hatsoff to shaheer and rhea no one can beat them in performance

..they are the bestest👏

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cool_wonder

ok

i never wanted the makers to give us another PS couple or copy kaiRa ...

All I said is just the way Rajan ji and makers love and give importance to that ps couple, the way they promote the parent show couple.... mishbir deserve the same love from the makers n producers


The way they give kaiRa get screen space, mishbir should be treated the Same

Is there any issue wishing for this??


Any show revolves around the leads, n here to it was revolving around mishbir

I just want the makers to have a beautiful story around mishbir......... they showed mishbir falling in love beautifully

Note I want to see mishbir beautiful after marriage story.... n being a daily it’ll have its drama n other things but in this can be shown with some good story na....


showing they always arguing when they meet, showing bromance n sisenemy they can concentrate more on mishbir communication n their scenes

Completely agree with u.. All u said is to give mishbir their story n the ss and romance with them being the leads of the show deserve

being a kaira n mishbir fan even I got annoyed n mad at rs bcoz of his partiality.. There its always about kaira n here there are hardly any mishbir scenes

Even I have a problem with the romance in this show which we hardly get to see n there kaira being parents romance each other 24/7 while here mishbir who just got married are yet to kiss each other on their cheeks.. It's frustrating as hell

I thought here also rs wud completely focus on mishbir just like the way he sidelined every parallel lead of yrkkh n focused completely on kaira.. I think here that wud happen but after a few or more months..

I just hope he gets his senses back n bring the show to the point where it wud be only about mishbir

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: aquaHP

Thank you for your enthusiastic support, Vinutha!!😆

I watch the story for both the couples because jab 1+1 free mil raha ho then who am I to complain??🤪 Also, I like the fact that the couples are so different from each other because I get to enjoy 2 different love stories: one sweet, mature and fun and the second, angsty, immature and bold. Agar similar hoti to I would have had to choose between the two. If I had to summarise it: ek Jodi chhupan chhupaai khelti hai and doosri has no interest in playing games.😆


Coming to parallel storylines, (please don't maaro me) I personally want more parallel stories, the latest example being Nidhi Maami. I think it was really interesting to see how her view of Kunal and Parul has changed after Kunal got the ribbon cut from Parul. I really want to know how she will behave once the break is over.


Aiya! I really don't know what overdose you're talking about 🙆🏻‍♀️. Should I know?? Can you PM me if you can't mention it on the forum?


Faltu song sequence? Are you referring to Humma humma?? Because in my opinion, that was not faltu at all. I'll tell you why I say that:

1. It was so hot!!☺️

2. Finally, saw a main female character take the lead in such situations and she was not made out to be promiscuous. Go feminism!!

3. Last and the most important one, it showed the level to which Kunal will ignore his own needs and wants for his Maa and Bhai. He literally left his wife to attend a call and then decided to leave the resort post the call, leaving the "deed" incomplete. Also, if you add Kuhu's sexual frustration to her already blasted mood, you add a whole new dimension to the fight scenes between the 4.


Coming back to MishBir, I feel the progression is very much in agreement with how their characters have been written. With all their great traits, they both do have shortcomings and that's what I like. It makes them so much more realistic. Mishti has always tried her hardest to gain validation from authority and fulfillment of that inherent need is much more important than anyone else but we see that she is also trying to balance that need with her natural behaviour of trying to solve a problem alone and balancing her marriage with Abir. (I realise this does not make a whole lot of sense if I don't give the complete background. That will require me to make a super long post so till I do that, I hope no chappals come my way). Abir has the habit of running away when things involving his mother become overwhelming hence the resort trip. Only this time, he took his family. Things turn awry because 1. He didn't anticipate Meenu's interference because he had left Nanu incharge and 2. He had felt his plan would work in bringing the sisters together because a situation like that would bring the brothers together and they would get over the past fight. So, nothing went according to plan for Abir and hence his reaction.


Hey Dear!!


Your thought process gives me a whole new dimension of the story! No Chappals dear! 🤗

Its lovely to read something written from a new point of view.

Well about the overdose, i was talking about PS leads! uff!!


And i don't have a problem with humma! it was sensuous. My complains were mostly about the older song sequences like pareshan!! Ewww ! i totally cringed when i saw that! 🤔


Regarding other parallel stories.. Yes, there a lot of stories that can be developed. With nidhi mami, Ketu, Atul and parul masi.. It would be an interesting watch.


(I realise this does not make a whole lot of sense if I don't give the complete background. That will require me to make a super long post so till I do that, I hope no chappals come my way) -

Please write .. i would love to read more on that 😃


Regarding Abir leaving mishti behind, it still doesnt make sense to me.. No matter what problem you have with ur spouse, its totally unacceptable to leave them behind at an unknown place. Mishti ko ghar pe drop karke udd chala hota toh bhi i would have understood😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Onyourface

Hi cool 🤗 good post, thank you for putting it up on the main forum 🤗🤗🤗


I am not sure why did you change your original post in the AT and decided to ignore the "I fell in love with mishbir because " points from your post there and in turn added a lot of kaira comparison here to prove a point , ummm let me tell you something, others from the AT understood your point instantly because they know the background of the discussion already , here it's more like chalti train mein chadna hai 😆 its necessary to explain the background too , even if makers read this post , I believe they will take it as a comparison post rather than concern raising post...

I know you didn't write much about the

Beautiful friendship phase

Beautiful confession phase

Beautiful realisation phase

Because you didn't want these points to take away the limelight of the grievances that you wished to put it up , it almost felt felt like a very different post on a different tangent actually because of not elaborating these points 😳 I for a fact know that your intention was to say something else ...


Correct me if I am wrong , I felt you just wished to show the imbalance in both the shows , where one couple is getting overdose of things while the other one is just getting underdose, so in comparison we can just improve in certain areas - communication, screen time and romance being the core areas ...its not like you want a Xerox copy of kaira or akshara naitik because honestly every couple had a different love story and a journey of ther own , the characters were different and so was the treatment ...toh comparison banta hai hi nahi



Communication


Mishbir for the first 150 episodes, the friendship phase were the best things ever, there was a flawless communication between them , it almost fell unreal on how they understood each other without much words , but that just explained the comfort level they had , therefore these days even after repeated words from each other , if they can't understand each other's basic emotional feelings, then it pains a little to see and make us believe that the characters are being compromised. All we as fans want is a heart felt communication between them , where mishti comes clean on how she is still living under a fear, a pressure that someone will leave her one day , she is still dealing with her past and she needs someone to hear her out , heal her

Abir on the other hand is someone who hasn't really expressed his real feelings on how he felt living without mishti , how much did he miss her , how he felt when his baba turned out to be a real nightmare to him , why is there always a threatening effect that he is getting from meenu , after break up phase , I have never seen mishbir doing any sort of " real dil se talks " , and I miss them , would really love that instead of romance wala patch up , I get an emotional patch up between then 😳 The one where both of then talk and listen " dil se " ...that's the communication I want


Screen Time


No one is saying that we want 21 mins ka mishbir only , but just 2 3 mins that too random scenes makes no sense , like when abir wasn't well during shivratri , mishti was so worried, but later when he woke up, not once mishti asked...I was so worried , do you remember what all you did in intoxicated state ? 😛 I really want these type of simple conversations and for that 5 mins ka screen time is also enough , all I expect is to cut down on some drama ( I know it's a part and parcel of the show and will be there till the very end ) but these days, the screen time is compromised for drama and thus is bothering me , all I expect some more dose of light hearted scenes in general ....

Everytime they can't come with a predictable plot , meenu plans something , others become dumb , then other become highly intelligent and tadaaaaa meenu's plan fails 🤣 Its getting boring now okay... I wish to see some new innovative fresh tracks , for a change show me characters who have the ability to overcome their past , their weaknesses and emerge as a strong personality, that is a real hero in true sense, isn't it ?


Romance


Obviously mishbir happens to be the most happening love story of the year , the marriage that they got after a hell of a struggle , toh agar hum chahe ke unhe thode sukoon ke pal mile , then what's wrong , I am really surprised to see that no one in thr family is asking the couples to go for a honeymoon, matlab koi baat bhi nahi kar raha , ek ke baad ek drama dhoom dham dhadam dishoom laga rakha hai 😆 like literally they are going pakdam pakdai for a kiss 🤔 kya hai bhai, yeh couple ki love marriage hai na ?


All I want to say is, i Iiterally have no problem with any other character and I completely understand that they can't show mishbir all the time , it's a family drama and every character is important to take the story forward, I am very happy to see that not only mishbir, but every character in the show has a separate story which is layered in it's own way and which elevates the whole story viewing experience

but I would really want a bir improvement in the areas that have been explained above


I wsh to see a mature and sensible Tean Mishbir soon


❤️

I just love you Loads Gurujiiii 🤗🤗🤗


n I’m happy that you guided me here🤗🤗
Your absolutely right....i think u just peeped inside my thoughts 😃

Yes I didn’t wanted the focus to be divided, I wanted to pin point majorly what we all are feeling ..... yes like you said this post looked more like a comparison post rather than putting forth our points

Again bang on gurujiiiiii🤗🤗🤗

I never want MishBir to become any-other couple our MishBir are a jem in their own way but like u said I just wanted to show how inconsistent the makers are in handling the couples that needs to be understood


1. communication


bang on 👏👏👏

That’s what I wanted to say... in Shivaratri when Abhir come to senses where was mishti with him??? They didn’t show her even asking Abhir how’s he feeling n like you said didn’t even ask if he remembered what all had happened when he wasn’t in his senses...

Basically no connectivity

Except for one or two occasions, we don’t even see them interacting or any continuity in interaction😊


2. Screen time


again🤗🤗👏👏bammmm... bang on👏🤗


even if they give 3 mins scene that should have some connectivity or continuity.... definitely not seeing them for 21mins

There should be continuity.... random jumping off scenes or disjointed scene or editing good scenes makes no sense


3. Romance


baaannggggg oonnn 🤗👏


yes, mishbir every time need not keep running or challenging.... they have had a loved married after fighting tooth n nail,

Some alone time, Some peaceful time, some good time

Don’t we n mishbir deserve

That’s why I mentioned the other couples they get their movement of peace. What about mishbir why this treatment


there is scope of improvement yaaraaaa n I just want makers to see that scope n work on it😃

Hopefully they do

Did I say I looobsssss you gurujiiiii🤗🤗🤗

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cool_wonder

ok

i never wanted the makers to give us another PS couple or copy kaiRa ...

All I said is just the way Rajan ji and makers love and give importance to that ps couple, the way they promote the parent show couple.... mishbir deserve the same love from the makers n producers


The way they give kaiRa 24/7 screen space, mishbir should be treated the Same

Is there any issue wishing for this?? Or


Any show revolves around the leads, n here to it was revolving around mishbir

I just want the makers to have a beautiful story around mishbir......... they showed mishbir falling in love beautifully

Note I want to see mishbir beautiful after marriage story.... n being a daily it’ll have its drama n other things but all this can be shown with some good story around Mishbir na....


Instead of showing them always arguing when they meet after marriage, n instead of showing stupid bromance n sisenemy they can concentrate more on mishbir communication n their scenes


This will include all other characters, but not at the cost of mishbir

Hey cool_wonder!

Absolutely no issue in wishing that the MishBir get more screen space and I totally get where you're coming from. But I hope you understand where I am coming from too. Any show that just shows the leads 24/7 risks the chance of stagnation in the story and that's what I wanted to say happened to the PS. Yes, the TRPs for the show are high and there is nothing wrong with showing that but if you see from the makers' POV, there won't be much story left. The show had started as a concept show but it has reached a point where no one cares about the concept or the storyline. If I were in the makers' position, I wouldn't see a point in continuing a show like that. For how long will they keep finding new ways to show romance? KaiRa have probably romanced in every location and any event possible in the world, be it festivals, in tes of crisis, any and all corners of the house, foreign countries and so on. I am surprised that they don't have an army of kids by now.


Also, all I am saying is that the communication gaps are very intentional. They are their to heighten the drama because if they were to communicate, the problem would be over in a jiffy. I think it was Dreamygal who mentioned in one of her posts that all these conflicts that we see on screen are contrived. In real life, issues like this can be solved by communicating with each other but then there would be no story for us to follow.

I mean, if you see, MishBir's break-up got solved in essentially one conversation on the night of the Raatjaga, which basically translates that the time they spent apart was not really needed and Nanko's heartbreak could have been avoided by making him sit down and telling him the whole truth. All of this would've given us a week of storyline rather than the almost 6 month track we got. So, what I am basically saying is we just need to have more patience because from how I see it, the makers already know what the fans want but they are intentionally holding it back because intezaar ka fal meetha hota hai.

Hayee!! Maine kya gyaan baanta hai. Khud hi ko surprise kar diya🙈🙆🏻‍♀️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Onyourface

Hi cool 🤗 good post, thank you for putting it up on the main forum 🤗🤗🤗


I am not sure why did you change your original post in the AT and decided to ignore the "I fell in love with mishbir because " points from your post there and in turn added a lot of kaira comparison here to prove a point , ummm let me tell you something, others from the AT understood your point instantly because they know the background of the discussion already , here it's more like chalti train mein chadna hai 😆 its necessary to explain the background too , even if makers read this post , I believe they will take it as a comparison post rather than concern raising post...

I know you didn't write much about the

Beautiful friendship phase

Beautiful confession phase

Beautiful realisation phase

Because you didn't want these points to take away the limelight of the grievances that you wished to put it up , it almost felt felt like a very different post on a different tangent actually because of not elaborating these points 😳 I for a fact know that your intention was to say something else ...


Correct me if I am wrong , I felt you just wished to show the imbalance in both the shows , where one couple is getting overdose of things while the other one is just getting underdose, so in comparison we can just improve in certain areas - communication, screen time and romance being the core areas ...its not like you want a Xerox copy of kaira or akshara naitik because honestly every couple had a different love story and a journey of ther own , the characters were different and so was the treatment ...toh comparison banta hai hi nahi



Communication


Mishbir for the first 150 episodes, the friendship phase were the best things ever, there was a flawless communication between them , it almost fell unreal on how they understood each other without much words , but that just explained the comfort level they had , therefore these days even after repeated words from each other , if they can't understand each other's basic emotional feelings, then it pains a little to see and make us believe that the characters are being compromised. All we as fans want is a heart felt communication between them , where mishti comes clean on how she is still living under a fear, a pressure that someone will leave her one day , she is still dealing with her past and she needs someone to hear her out , heal her

Abir on the other hand is someone who hasn't really expressed his real feelings on how he felt living without mishti , how much did he miss her , how he felt when his baba turned out to be a real nightmare to him , why is there always a threatening effect that he is getting from meenu , after break up phase , I have never seen mishbir doing any sort of " real dil se talks " , and I miss them , would really love that instead of romance wala patch up , I get an emotional patch up between then 😳 The one where both of then talk and listen " dil se " ...that's the communication I want


Screen Time


No one is saying that we want 21 mins ka mishbir only , but just 2 3 mins that too random scenes makes no sense , like when abir wasn't well during shivratri , mishti was so worried, but later when he woke up, not once mishti asked...I was so worried , do you remember what all you did in intoxicated state ? 😛 I really want these type of simple conversations and for that 5 mins ka screen time is also enough , all I expect is to cut down on some drama ( I know it's a part and parcel of the show and will be there till the very end ) but these days, the screen time is compromised for drama and thus is bothering me , all I expect some more dose of light hearted scenes in general ....

Everytime they can't come with a predictable plot , meenu plans something , others become dumb , then other become highly intelligent and tadaaaaa meenu's plan fails 🤣 Its getting boring now okay... I wish to see some new innovative fresh tracks , for a change show me characters who have the ability to overcome their past , their weaknesses and emerge as a strong personality, that is a real hero in true sense, isn't it ?


Romance


Obviously mishbir happens to be the most happening love story of the year , the marriage that they got after a hell of a struggle , toh agar hum chahe ke unhe thode sukoon ke pal mile , then what's wrong , I am really surprised to see that no one in thr family is asking the couples to go for a honeymoon, matlab koi baat bhi nahi kar raha , ek ke baad ek drama dhoom dham dhadam dishoom laga rakha hai 😆 like literally they are going pakdam pakdai for a kiss 🤔 kya hai bhai, yeh couple ki love marriage hai na ?


All I want to say is, i Iiterally have no problem with any other character and I completely understand that they can't show mishbir all the time , it's a family drama and every character is important to take the story forward, I am very happy to see that not only mishbir, but every character in the show has a separate story which is layered in it's own way and which elevates the whole story viewing experience

but I would really want a bir improvement in the areas that have been explained above


I wsh to see a mature and sensible Tean Mishbir soon


❤️

There was more to the original post??? Cool, you should have posted it no. Main forum pe, we all need more material to understand the same content.

Okay, sach kahu to I would love to see all the small scenes mentioned above and I so don't get why the two keep playing pakdam pakdai😆.


Having said that, I also have an inkling why we haven't gotten more scenes. Let me know if this makes any sense because I haven't analysed Mishti/MishBir as much as you guys have, so consider this as an assumption.

If Mishti was to get more time with Abir (and I mean time where they both get to communicate and make each other feel secure), Meenu's whole plan will fall apart because it is dependent on Mishti insecurities. She is essentially trying not to let Mishti settle in and feel secure so that Mishti in her eagerness to gain approval keeps making mistakes and that in turn irks Kuhu and then we know the rest of the cycle and how that will imbalance the equilibrium of the RV family.

I know Meenu's plan will fail in the end but this time she is playing it so safe and so intelligently. She is getting all her work done from the sisters and in such a manner that it doesn't come back to bite her. Both sisters think they are doing things of their own accord where as the only thing Meenu is doing is attacking their insecurities.

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Hi a lovely post🤗 and totally understand the sentiment behind it. I also like Mishbir and on reflection have not been happy with the episodes after their marriage. I realise it is needed, to enter the next plot point, but it should be mixed with some romance and story but not tarnish what has already been established as far as characters go.


But I am going to express some things that will be unpopular but hope you all bear it with me.


I totally agree more conversation is needed between Misbir, especially as they are now living with family. Just as in real life, so it is with fictional show when you have other people involved some things will crop up where one soul mate will think I need to protect the other from. Well go ahead, but stop short of making it a conflict between them because then it overturns everything that we had seen previously ie Misbir openly talking about things that worry them, concerns them, makes them question themselves and etc. Talking about a worry is a worry halved instantly and they excelled at it.


For instance that last episode - previously, Abir would have stayed behind and talked with Mishti but here he just left her. I don't care that he realised his mistake halfway or that he had tears in his eyes and was rushing back - nope. Yes I understand why, but it doesn't wash given what we had seen before. Only way it would make sense is when he comes back, he needs to explain clearly why he left.


However, I also like the fact that Mishti is very strong and has a no nonsense approach, very linear actually, and so she should always adhere to that side of her. Abir is an protector so what he does/is doing makes sense. But they must continue talking to one another ...not leave it until misunderstanding develops as often it becomes contrived. Then I really do not want to see a song/dance or dheere dheere or sathiya song and all is forgiven. Nope, conversation is a must as only then the story progresses naturally.


Romance - very unpopluar opinion coming now....See, this is a thematic show with a story and theme to express. They did that beautifully in the first act and now using that as the foundation they are building on it by telling/showing the theme. For that a story needs to told by which all four characters have to be shown. This story cannot be told just from lots of romance, song and dance of one character. In fact constantly showing romance will make it unbearable, a farce really. Everything shown on the screen pushes forward the story. Misbir's story is very different from the PS lead and should not follow in their footstep at all -otherwise it is just a carbon copy. Also, PS is a total borefest now, even that tedious old 'constant romance' is boring because they have no story to tell at all. They have separated and married gazillion times to the point that love story is not believable at all. No I want Misbir to romance and have SR or whatever when it suits the story, not because to make it palatable for viewers. Only story keeps people hooked, anything else and people will be yawning 'seen this before'. So yes romance but only if the story demands it. Romance does not need to be big...it can be anything like making one another cup of coffee, sitting down next to one and holding their hand, one is hurt the other comes to put some salve on, one is sad and the other comes to give them a hug silently acknowledging the sadness...these are better than some random song that crops up. In marriage the little things show love and makes that love stronger and long lasting....I have yet to see Misbir even eating a meal together now that they are married.


Focus on Misbir - I am in the UK and currently the re-runs are edited version which is totally focusing on Mishbir and no one else. Am I enjoying it? not too much. Why? because this show is about four characters - Abir, Mishti, Kunal and Kuhu and just seeing the Misbir scenes are fun but soon you can see some bits not making sense because the KuKu parts are not shown. From the very beginning their story and lives were intertwined. What one did affected the other and then eventually all four. As I said above, this is a thematic show and in all my posts I had also mentioned that the writers are using the mirror techniques so again the use of four characters makes sense. Misbir are the main lead, their story is the driving force but KuKu's story also has a essential part as well - it provides conflict, gives the turning points of the story, utilises characters to show the mirror, organic black moments stem from the characters actions from one another...in other words perfect story telling because all four are needed. Could Mishbir have done this on their own? oh yes, but we would have hated them as a character and not believed in their love story at all and trust me by now peple would have moved onto other shows except for the die hard fans. To give a example of this type of show, think of the one with laal dupatta...you can watch it for the entertainment, maybe will they/won't they factor but never for the love story as there isn't one in the proper sense.


But I do agree that when the story is concentrating on one couple/character the focus must be on them to make sense, and editing must be done smoothly. I also would like it if the whole scene/sequel, action/reaction is shown properly for only then it makes sense. I personally would like KuKu story to be more refined. I feel it is all over the place at the moment because Kuhu is wavering between protagonist/antagonist and writers are trying to misdirect. The love story is one step forward, two story back. It seems like even the mirroring is being used in the couple's romance arc, which again shows how intertwined the stories are. Hopefully all these will get resolved soon as we will be entering the next plot point soon.


I for one only want a sensible story, which utilises the romance and character growth shown so far, rather than stagnating or butchering them. I really want to see how the theme is excuted and how the story question is answered. The writing in the beginning was superb, that was what captured my attention and retained it, and I would hate it if they descend to rhetoricals and masala scenes just to keep people hooked.



Stay safe, stay home and protect a life.🤗🤗

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Originally posted by: vinutha91


Hey Dear!!


Your thought process gives me a whole new dimension of the story! No Chappals dear! 🤗

Its lovely to read something written from a new point of view.

Well about the overdose, i was talking about PS leads! uff!!


And i don't have a problem with humma! it was sensuous. My complains were mostly about the older song sequences like pareshan!! Ewww ! i totally cringed when i saw that! 🤔


Regarding other parallel stories.. Yes, there a lot of stories that can be developed. With nidhi mami, Ketu, Atul and parul masi.. It would be an interesting watch.


(I realise this does not make a whole lot of sense if I don't give the complete background. That will require me to make a super long post so till I do that, I hope no chappals come my way) -

Please write .. i would love to read more on that 😃


Regarding Abir leaving mishti behind, it still doesnt make sense to me.. No matter what problem you have with ur spouse, its totally unacceptable to leave them behind at an unknown place. Mishti ko ghar pe drop karke udd chala hota toh bhi i would have understood😆

Thank you Vinutha!!🤗

100% agree on the overdose!! I can't bear to watch the show. Why are they both sooooo into each other? Like all the time. It feels like I am invading someone else's personal moments, like only personal moments, because it seems like the actual story is running in the background of their romance, which in my opinion is 🤢.

Oh!! The pareshaan one!! I have to say that I didn't have much of an issue because I've come to realise that those sequences are more about the lyrics contributing to the couples' stories rather than showing the romance. So, the editing and direction is according to that. I think there have been one or two BTS videos also which show how the songs are choreographed and the lyrics are used to move the story forward.

I'll try and get to the post once I am done with my short story on Kunal and Parul.


Oh yes!! I see your point about MishBir. Unknown jage pe chhod ke thodi chale jaata hai koi. Kuch bhi tha wo to. Also, one more thing I don't get is why Abir was going back to the resort on foot. I don't think Kunal and Kuhu would mind going back to the resort to pick up Mishti. Why not go in the car?? That does not make sense at all!! Why is he walking back???

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Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

Hi a lovely post🤗 and totally understand the sentiment behind it. I also like Mishbir and on reflection have not been happy with the episodes after their marriage. I realise it is needed, to enter the next plot point, but it should be mixed with some romance and story but not tarnish what has already been established as far as characters go.


But I am going to express some things that will be unpopular but hope you all bear it with me.


I totally agree more conversation is needed between Misbir, especially as they are now living with family. Just as in real life, so it is with fictional show when you have other people involved some things will crop up where one soul mate will think I need to protect the other from. Well go ahead, but stop short of making it a conflict between them because then it overturns everything that we had seen previously ie Misbir openly talking about things that worry them, concerns them, makes them question themselves and etc. Talking about a worry is a worry halved instantly and they excelled at it.


For instance that last episode - previously, Abir would have stayed behind and talked with Mishti but here he just left her. I don't care that he realised his mistake halfway or that he had tears in his eyes and was rushing back - nope. Yes I understand why, but it doesn't wash given what we had seen before. Only way it would make sense is when he comes back, he needs to explain clearly why he left.


However, I also like the fact that Mishti is very strong and has a no nonsense approach, very linear actually, and so she should always adhere to that side of her. Abir is an protector so what he does/is doing makes sense. But they must continue talking to one another ...not leave it until misunderstanding develops as often it becomes contrived. Then I really do not want to see a song/dance or dheere dheere or sathiya song and all is forgiven. Nope, conversation is a must as only then the story progresses naturally.


Romance - very unpopluar opinion coming now....See, this is a thematic show with a story and theme to express. They did that beautifully in the first act and now using that as the foundation they are building on it by telling/showing the theme. For that a story needs to told by which all four characters have to be shown. This story cannot be told just from lots of romance, song and dance of one character. In fact constantly showing romance will make it unbearable, a farce really. Everything shown on the screen pushes forward the story. Misbir's story is very different from the PS lead and should not follow in their footstep at all -otherwise it is just a carbon copy. Also, PS is a total borefest now, even that tedious old 'constant romance' is boring because they have no story to tell at all. They have separated and married gazillion times to the point that love story is not believable at all. No I want Misbir to romance and have SR or whatever when it suits the story, not because to make it palatable for viewers. Only story keeps people hooked, anything else and people will be yawning 'seen this before'. So yes romance but only if the story demands it. Romance does not need to be big...it can be anything like making one another cup of coffee, sitting down next to one and holding their hand, one is hurt the other comes to put some salve on, one is sad and the other comes to give them a hug silently acknowledging the sadness...these are better than some random song that crops up. In marriage the little things show love and makes that love stronger and long lasting....I have yet to see Misbir even eating a meal together now that they are married.


Focus on Misbir - I am in the UK and currently the re-runs are edited version which is totally focusing on Mishbir and no one else. Am I enjoying it? not too much. Why? because this show is about four characters - Abir, Mishti, Kunal and Kuhu and just seeing the Misbir scenes are fun but soon you can see some bits not making sense because the KuKu parts are not shown. From the very beginning their story and lives were intertwined. What one did affected the other and then eventually all four. As I said above, this is a thematic show and in all my posts I had also mentioned that the writers are using the mirror techniques so again the use of four characters makes sense. Misbir are the main lead, their story is the driving force but KuKu's story also has a essential part as well - it provides conflict, gives the turning points of the story, utilises characters to show the mirror, organic black moments stem from the characters actions from one another...in other words perfect story telling because all four are needed. Could Mishbir have done this on their own? oh yes, but we would have hated them as a character and not believed in their love story at all and trust me by now peple would have moved onto other shows except for the die hard fans. To give a example of this type of show, think of the one with laal dupatta...you can watch it for the entertainment, maybe will they/won't they factor but never for the love story as there isn't one in the proper sense.


But I do agree that when the story is concentrating on one couple/character the focus must be on them to make sense, and editing must be done smoothly. I also would like it if the whole scene/sequel, action/reaction is shown properly for only then it makes sense. I personally would like KuKu story to be more refined. I feel it is all over the place at the moment because Kuhu is wavering between protagonist/antagonist and writers are trying to misdirect. The love story is one step forward, two story back. It seems like even the mirroring is being used in the couple's romance arc, which again shows how intertwined the stories are. Hopefully all these will get resolved soon as we will be entering the next plot point soon.


I for one only want a sensible story, which utilises the romance and character growth shown so far, rather than stagnating or butchering them. I really want to see how the theme is excuted and how the story question is answered. The writing in the beginning was superb, that was what captured my attention and retained it, and I would hate it if they descend to rhetoricals and masala scenes just to keep people hooked.



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Oh dreamy!!! Thank you!! You totally wrote down my feelings and in a much much better way than I ever could because duh! you're a writer😋.

And the laal dupatta point🤣

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Originally posted by: aquaHP

There was more to the original post??? Cool, you should have posted it no. Main forum pe, we all need more material to understand the same content.

Okay, sach kahu to I would love to see all the small scenes mentioned above and I so don't get why the two keep playing pakdam pakdai😆.


Having said that, I also have an inkling why we haven't gotten more scenes. Let me know if this makes any sense because I haven't analysed Mishti/MishBir as much as you guys have, so consider this as an assumption.

If Mishti was to get more time with Abir (and I mean time where they both get to communicate and make each other feel secure), Meenu's whole plan will fall apart because it is dependent on Mishti insecurities. She is essentially trying not to let Mishti settle in and feel secure so that Mishti in her eagerness to gain approval keeps making mistakes and that in turn irks Kuhu and then we know the rest of the cycle and how that will imbalance the equilibrium of the RV family.

I know Meenu's plan will fail in the end but this time she is playing it so safe and so intelligently. She is getting all her work done from the sisters and in such a manner that it doesn't come back to bite her. Both sisters think they are doing things of their own accord where as the only thing Meenu is doing is attacking their insecurities.


Hey aqua :)


I think now cool had edited her post and added the points from her side , actually this is not a today discussion, we have been discussing this in the AT since many days that we need some sensible and mature mishbir conversations and some improvements in the areas addressed , I know the way it was presented looked like a comparison post .... but honestly the crux of the matter was to make a point that we need some improvement when it comes to communication, screen time and romance , we have been saying the old episodes right now , till 150 episodes there was a neat balance in the areas but now the dramatic overdose is killing the fun , don't you think so ?


Like even in nishmish track , we had some weeks of light hearted moments and then the drama took over, but here after marriage I hardly find a scene where there is no saazish going on at the back end 😆🤣 Idhar they are hiding stuff from each other or absolutely not listening to each other, I mean chal kya raha hai


Even in kuku story , when was the last time , they actually told each other that its good they gave their relationship a second chance ? I know thoda dimag laga ke we can analyse and make sense but let me tell you, majority of the TV audience take things at face value, they don't sit and write or read the character analysis, that's why sometimes showing certain scenes and certain conversations becomes important, it almost zeroes down on are they taking each other for granted after marriage ? ( this goes for both mishbir and kuku )


I know developing and destroying certain relationships is a part of the drama , it's a never ending process 😆 And right now meenu is taking full advantage of the situation 😆


More than mishti , I feel its kuhu's insecurities that she is trying to target , in turn testing mishti's patience and impulsiveness to react at a situation, she just wants a moment to explore the worst side of the girls to prove her point ...I guess in larger area we all understand meenu's plan and motivations n everything and she undoubtedly drives the story 😆 But this post is not about meenu or anyone else


It's about how we as fans wish to see more on mishbir's part in the midst of drama, a better crisp well edited and executed story ...we have noticed that in the past, many of the mishbir scenes were chopped off ( all being light hearted ones ) jab segments mein dekhte hai tab pata chalta hai acha scene mein yeh bhi tha 😆 So all we want is don't compromise such scenes for drama , thoda drama slow speed pe chalega aur thode zyada light hearted easy breezy feel good scenes milenge then I think it will be a win win situation for both the set of audience, the online ones and the TV ones , haina ?

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