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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: RegressiveThug

In Nagaland, few years back lynched a man, because a woman accused him of rape. Later it was found out, she was a prostitute who demanded him more money than what was fixed before sex, and when she refused, she accused him of rape. And the crowd killed the man based on those accusations.

Ishilye jab ghar mai biwi hote huye, bahar randibaazi karna nahi chahiye.

Agar Randibaaz (sorry for this language) aur cheaters jaise kisi ne comment kiya fiancee traped for cheating etc. agar yeh sab galti se law ka shikar hojate hai to its ok poor innocent girls bach jaigi aise logo ko bacha kar kya karna hai

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I think first of all some kind of app, helpline number is definitely needed in all states, districts, villages, cities of India. So women can feel safe. Something that can guarantee a woman's safety no matter where she goes.

Next we need death penalty for such criminals. Now what kind of death I don't know, whatever death penalty government decides for such monsters. But death penalty for such criminals is needed.

I hope some new and powerful laws of these kind are announced and implemented with the new year.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Lynching and all won’t help, yes it satisfied immediate anger but the main thing is that men such as these don’t have the fear in them. They are uneducated folks walking around drunk with no awareness of consequences. I mean educated men too are in this so what hope is there for those living in poverty.

We as a society and government need to increase patrolling on the streets for women safety to begin with, as a precautionary measure. A fear needs to be developed and the law needs to move swiftly. Police instead of helping the family says go to the other branch

Even our forensics and all are completely a mess, a burnt body is discovered and media is already there with family seeing the body in burnt state, seriously? I don’t know is this supposed to be normal?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Exactly. Thanks for saying it as it is.

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Laws follow karke kya ukhad liya sabne...again one innocent girl gets raped and murdered....phir yahi hoga aur phir yahi hoga...aur hum law abiding citizes law follow karne ki duhai dete rahenge......yes following laws is important...how about making a law that if they are proved guilty they should be lynched in public...inko pyaar se jail mein bitha kar aaloo ka paratha khilaoge toh abhi aur rapes aur murder dekhne ko milega🤢...Nirbhaya case mein that bast^rd was let go because he was a mnor??? The one who can rape will not bear the punishment because he is young??Laws my foot🤢

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I don't know about lynching. I am just saying death sentence for these criminals should be implemented and prosecuted immediately after they are proven guilty by the government. I don't care what kind of death.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

India does allow the death sentence for heinous crimes. So who is saying rapists must not be sentenced to death?

Lynching is different from the death sentence. Lynching is letting mobs seek justice without due process. Hundreds of innocent black men were lynched as rapists for having consensual relations with white women during the Jim Crow era. Do you really want India to become a place where that is how justice is carried out?

The fact is rapists kill their victims in order to silence them.

While there is a hue and cry when someone is killed, the fact is that every day hundreds of women are raped and sexually assaulted by friends, boyfriends, husbands because of a lack of consent education. Women are raped, killed, maimed by acid for refusing male advances because men are raised to believe women owe them something.

It will take years, maybe even a century or to change how society perceives women. But I am sorry, lasting change towards a future where women are safe is far more important than cursory gestures. Bandaids don't fix bullet holes.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FreeTheNipple

What crime rate when there is no definition of crime? And what tougher laws are you talking about? I just gave you an example where the victim was punished more than one of the convicts. If tougher laws correlate with or cause low crime rate, then you might make some case for your point.

And there could be a lot of examples where the victims are being tortured in jail and convicts are freely roaming on the roads. And lots of examples where victims getting full justice and lots of examples where victims get partial justice or zero justice. Okay, so lets not talk about crime rate or tougher laws, but Arabic countries are know for strict action against such situations. Rest is your destiny and the beauty of dark age you live in.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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My immediate visceral reaction to such stories of rape is that convicted brutal should be castrated with a cheese grater slowly. A little bit every day. Never let the wound heal. Grate a little bit off every day. Let them beg for death but don't give it to them.

But then I calm down and ask myself. Does it bring back dead victims? No. Does it heal loved ones and family? Maybe. It depends. Does it prevent rape? Nope. Does it make women feel safer? Nope. Does it make women feel safe to report rape and sexual assault? Nope. Does it prevent men from viewing women as sexual objects? Nope. Does it make men understand that women don't owe them anything? Nope. Does it make men understand that consent is of utmost importance? Nope.

What is the point then? Nothing other than us basking in moral righteousness. Real lasting change will take a lot of time.

I am not opposed to the death sentence at all. Some criminals can never be rehabilitated. I think the death sentence is better than the system wasting resources on sustaining brutal mass murderers and rapists.

At the same time, I cannot condone lynching, torture, etc - no matter how much someone deserves it. Our justice system is not perfect. Law enforcement has a tendency to scapegoat people to appease bloodthirsty public who just want someone to blame. The United States has a history of black men being incarcerated for rape - because white society could not bear white women having consensual relationships with black men. Since the discovery of DNA evidence literally thousands of men incarcerated for rape have been acquitted.

So while I do not oppose the death penalty, I do not trust the criminal justice system to always make the right choice. Should an innocent person be humanely sentenced to death - I would be upset, but I can live with it. Should an innocent person be lynched/tortured to death, I don't think that is right for social conscience.

Why not tackle important criminal justice reforms instead? Mandatory sensitivity training for officers on how to investigate sex crimes. Better oversight to prevent officers from demeaning and demoralizing victims. Rape kit reform to comply with international standards and the abolition of the two-finger test. Criminalize marital rape. Actually implement fast track courts for rape and sexual assault. Rape investigation oversight to prevent abuse of power and scapegoating.

What's the point of harsher punishment if most rape is not reported? And of that is reported most don't get investigated. And those that get investigated, most don't go to court. And of those that go to court, most victims cannot mentally cope with trial. And of those victims that are resilient, most cases don't end in conviction. I'd rather focus on improving the reporting and investigation of ALL RAPES (not just ones that make headlines).

Once we are confident on our ability to report, investigate, and prosecute ALL CASES OF RAPE quickly and fairly - then lets look at torture options for heinous rapists.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: 9SakthLaunda4

From this phone conversation , it’s clear that they are guilty and there is no case of any conspiracy theory of politicians being involved. Castrate all of them and make their life a living hell until they die.

https://youtu.be/9VpZndmZ0zI

This is very heart wrenching the words “bhayam vesthondi” is still echoing in my ears where ever I go...she should have listened her sister and wait near toll ticket office.. that might have helped her...I don’t know what we do in that case..but I def sit in the toll ticket office that is the safest place because it has lights on and public will see clearly if anything happens there..

it’s very disturbing and iam in no mood to comment on this further...


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Yemen is a country devastated by war, corruption, unemployment and poverty yet it had the guts to publicly execute two rapists for raping minor girls.

Its shameful how the current and previous government constantly failed to implement stricter laws.

Deep rooted animalistic mentality is not going to improve with advertising "Naari Shakti" campaign any time sooner. Heinous crimes need heinous punishments.

That being said, lynching is the incorrect form of punishment.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I kind of agree with her. Law disappointed us in Nirbhaya case by setting free the juvenile rapist. I wish sirf 10minute ke liye crowd ke hawale karte usko, would have got the punishment he deserved.These cases are declared rarest of rare.

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