The toxic case of Karan Luthra : Insight

Karan Luthra is a case of misplaced neurological assembling where the connection between heart mind and mouth are wrongly joined. 🤔

Jokes apart, I take Karan as a character who is a man of few words. Not literally, but figuratively. An overgrown child who has been in sheer protection of his family and extreme pampering of his elder brother. A boy who can talk about anything under the sun except for what's in his heart. Not because he doesn't want to share but because his comprehension of his own feelings is not just difficult but also completely new to him. Someone who is so accustomed to having his way, to have people fulfill his wishes before he even utters a syllable , it's natural that he never had self introspection or even a little self pep talk for him to realise what actually does his heart want.

Karan had his whole world sorted with his priorities clear.. his brother being on top of that list. One day a stranger barges in and makes his life topsy turvy. It's ironical how a ladies man ended up with a woman who is a complete 180 to his personality.

There's no denying that what Karan did was horrendous but I am trying to get into the head of the character as to why someone so compassionate ended up like this? From the point where I am seeing Karan, he was high headed egoistic and careless but *not* heartless. He was compassionate, warm and of course, a child.

Trust issues is one of the major concerns when this character is concerned. Right from the start, rishabh has constantly spoken about Karan's inability to express himself. And a trait like this is generally accompanied people's inability to trust as well. Karan himself has accepted that he had never trusted anyone beyond his family, more specifically, rishabh.

So it must have taken every fiber of his being to put that trust on preeta. Unwillingly, unintentionally and with no say of his , he fell in love with that one woman who not only possessed his heart but his trust and his soul too. Sad part is, it took him years to come to peace with this fact and few seconds to shatter that peace.

The day preeta failed to come, broke the mirrage of trustand friendship , but most importantly, his heart. Karan is hiding behind his constant that preeta destroyed rishab's life. Even he knows divorce can / will be done once the truth is out. But it's less brutal for him than to acknowledge that preeta's (unintentional) doing has shaken him to the core because his own heart is broken into pieces which he doesn't even know where to start picking from.

It's easier to mask in anger than to crumble down broken beyond repair. Karan has subconsciously shut down his emotional quotient to avoid any sort of self confession about his broken heart.

And to top it all, his father's condition cemented the mask of anger and into not only hateness for preeta but self loathing to have fallen for a woman who chose the man who has supposedly caused the accident.

Karan's character has not changed nor has been shown heartless. Ironically, it is extremely human what is shown if him right now. The constant unacknowledged mental fights has taken a toll on him.

What Karan did after so much of destruction was the aftermath. The extreme of his action was important to justify his character. An Emotionally unstable man who has every emotion in extreme.

Not saying what he did was justified, but sometimes we do things in the worst state of our minds. That's what make us humans. Not good not bad, but human.

If he is forgivable or not? Certainly not, from a third person's point of view. Who is not in his shoes. But for preeta? Let time decide. Pseudo feminism and pyschological facts are two different things. We as women tend to bring self respect and girl card over everything and anything. It's important that if we are investing ourselves in a show, we should be unbiased..

If a character is wrong, then it's wrong, no denying but it's equally important to realise why he did what he did when we know for a fact he was not shown this way earlier..

Bdw, this is not to whitewash Karan. I am a psychiatrist by profession and just tried to get into the head of the character.

Xoxo

Scarlet.

Originally posted by: Scarlet.ferro

Karan Luthra is a case of misplaced neurological assembling where the connection between heart mind and mouth are wrongly joined. 🤔

Jokes apart, I take Karan as a character who is a man of few words. Not literally, but figuratively. An overgrown child who has been in sheer protection of his family and extreme pampering of his elder brother. A boy who can talk about anything under the sun except for what's in his heart. Not because he doesn't want to share but because his comprehension of his own feelings is not just difficult but also completely new to him. Someone who is so accustomed to having his way, to have people fulfill his wishes before he even utters a syllable , it's natural that he never had self introspection or even a little self pep talk for him to realise what actually does his heart want.

Karan had his whole world sorted with his priorities clear.. his brother being on top of that list. One day a stranger barges in and makes his life topsy turvy. It's ironical how a ladies man ended up with a woman who is a complete 180 to his personality.

There's no denying that what Karan did was horrendous but I am trying to get into the head of the character as to why someone so compassionate ended up like this? From the point where I am seeing Karan, he was high headed egoistic and careless but *not* heartless. He was compassionate, warm and of course, a child.

Trust issues is one of the major concerns when this character is concerned. Right from the start, rishabh has constantly spoken about Karan's inability to express himself. And a trait like this is generally accompanied people's inability to trust as well. Karan himself has accepted that he had never trusted anyone beyond his family, more specifically, rishabh.

So it must have taken every fiber of his being to put that trust on preeta. Unwillingly, unintentionally and with no say of his , he fell in love with that one woman who not only possessed his heart but his trust and his soul too. Sad part is, it took him years to come to peace with this fact and few seconds to shatter that peace.

The day preeta failed to come, broke the mirrage of trustand friendship , but most importantly, his heart. Karan is hiding behind his constant that preeta destroyed rishab's life. Even he knows divorce can / will be done once the truth is out. But it's less brutal for him than to acknowledge that preeta's (unintentional) doing has shaken him to the core because his own heart is broken into pieces which he doesn't even know where to start picking from.

It's easier to mask in anger than to crumble down broken beyond repair. Karan has subconsciously shut down his emotional quotient to avoid any sort of self confession about his broken heart.

And to top it all, his father's condition cemented the mask of anger and into not only hateness for preeta but self loathing to have fallen for a woman who chose the man who has supposedly caused the accident.

Karan's character has not changed nor has been shown heartless. Ironically, it is extremely human what is shown if him right now. The constant unacknowledged mental fights has taken a toll on him.

What Karan did after so much of destruction was the aftermath. The extreme of his action was important to justify his character. An Emotionally unstable man who has every emotion in extreme.

Not saying what he did was justified, but sometimes we do things in the worst state of our minds. That's what make us humans. Not good not bad, but human.

If he is forgivable or not? Certainly not, from a third person's point of view. Who is not in his shoes. But for preeta? Let time decide. Pseudo feminism and pyschological facts are two different things. We as women tend to bring self respect and girl card over everything and anything. It's important that if we are investing ourselves in a show, we should be unbiased..

If a character is wrong, then it's wrong, no denying but it's equally important to realise why he did what he did when we know for a fact he was not shown this way earlier..

Bdw, this is not to whitewash Karan. I am a psychiatrist by profession and just tried to get into the head of the character.

Xoxo

Scarlet.

I like your explanation. But writing that Karan 'wasn't' portrayed the way he is being portrayed post Rishabh's marriage is probably a misplaced error of judgement. Karan and all his dialogues from the very beginning have in my opinion been constant to whatever, he has done post Rishabh-Sherlyn's wedding and also post his own wedding. In fact his opinion regarding Preeta and his own assessment of Preeta prior to Rishabh-Sherlyn's engagement wasn't any different from Kareena's. Karan always had an ego larger than his stature and a sense of superiority stemming from the early onset of success in his career.

More than anything else Karan has been shown to believe 'evidences' more than anything else, and even more importantly Karan and his dependency emotional and otherwise on his brother has been highlighted by the makers throughout. Karan did NOT trust Preeta out of thin air, his trust stemmed from the lie which he was able to catch himself post the engagement by Sherlyn, later on cemented by seeing Sherlyn with her boyfriend in the hotel.

The thing I'm trying to write is that Karan and his friendship with Preeta was 'based' on the foundation of 'saving' Rishabh from Sherlyn. However, once the foundation broke, only the residual feelings pre episode 50 remained, which included classism, chauvinism and deeply rooted sexist misogyny, taken to over-drive because of his over-inflated ego, and superiority complex.

Not everything done out of sheer state of shut down mind is chauvinistic or misogynistic. .I am a woman myself and I don't want to term the character this way.

However I may not agree with your opinion, but I do respect that :)

Originally posted by: Scarlet.ferro

Jokes apart, I take Karan as a character who is a man of few words. Not literally, but figuratively. An overgrown child who has been in sheer protection of his family and extreme pampering of his elder brother. A boy who can talk about anything under the sun except for what's in his heart. Not because he doesn't want to share but because his comprehension of his own feelings is not just difficult but also completely new to him. Someone who is so accustomed to having his way, to have people fulfill his wishes before he even utters a syllable , it's natural that he never had self introspection or even a little self pep talk for him to realise what actually does his heart want.

I totally agree. And he has always been like this. His earlier fights with Preeta were silly, so we could laugh them off. But they all stemmed from the same core. And, the way he expresses his feelings are also similar. Do you remember the time when Preeta was teased by someone at Rishabh's bachelor party, and Karan screwed her case for crying and weeping while Rishabh was being more sympathetic? Karan doesn't have niceties in him. Even in one of these flashbacks, he was shown to say, You won't understand.

Karan had his whole world sorted with his priorities clear.. his brother being on top of that list. One day a stranger barges in and makes his life topsy turvy. It's ironical how a ladies man ended up with a woman who is a complete 180 to his personality.

Idk if she changed his life topsy turvy, coz they took so much time to establish that rapport, that the change seemed gradual. It wasn't like the other stories, where hate turns to love. Here, hatred turned into deep friendship. And even now, Preeta acknowledges him as the best friend who betrayed her. I don't deny the love between them, but greater emphasis was laid on the friendship.

There's no denying that what Karan did was horrendous but I am trying to get into the head of the character as to why someone so compassionate ended up like this? From the point where I am seeing Karan, he was high headed egoistic and careless but *not* heartless. He was compassionate, warm and of course, a child.

Well, he is NOT heartless right? He is like you said, just a child. According to him, Preeta is done something horrible, so she deserves to cry all her life. But it seriously makes no bloody sense to any logical mind. If Preeta were money-minded, she won't feel betrayed and unhappy, but elated that now she can fleece Karan! That is what should have been Karan's thinking. But I remember he was desperate to make her understand, that this was a betrayal. That sort of made the whole point of the betrayal a failed point. He could have been cool as a cucumber about it, but he was frustrated, angry, broken himself, and he was telling himself this was divine justice, an eye for an eye. But he is not cold-blooded.

Have you watched Madhubala? The hero did something similar, faked his affections and betrayed the heroine, but there he was manipulative, and cold-blooded. Here, on the other hand, Karan is broken beyond repair for what Preeta did to him.

Trust issues is one of the major concerns when this character is concerned. Right from the start, rishabh has constantly spoken about Karan's inability to express himself. And a trait like this is generally accompanied people's inability to trust as well. Karan himself has accepted that he had never trusted anyone beyond his family, more specifically, rishabh.

Yeah, and someone who trusts with great difficulty, finds only the slightest excuse for that trust to break. However, Karan was driven by rage to believe Preeta's betrayal. And only coz she couldn't deliver the results.

So it must have taken every fiber of his being to put that trust on preeta. Unwillingly, unintentionally and with no say of his , he fell in love with that one woman who not only possessed his heart but his trust and his soul too. Sad part is, it took him years to come to peace with this fact and few seconds to shatter that peace.

I don't think they are showing years. 😆 And, they never showed Karan actually being in love with Preeta until the wedding actually happened. Only after the wedding, I see a change in his feelings, now I see him accepting and realising Preeta's new presence in his life, is as his wife, a life partner, someone without whom he feels unhappy, and someone who's presence he craves. There is only little to go on about this. And that is his dream of Preeta in his room, trying to shield him from the sun's rays. But that one small scene spoke SO MUCH and was so beautiful!

The day preeta failed to come, broke the mirrage of trustand friendship , but most importantly, his heart. Karan is hiding behind his constant that preeta destroyed rishab's life. Even he knows divorce can / will be done once the truth is out. But it's less brutal for him than to acknowledge that preeta's (unintentional) doing has shaken him to the core because his own heart is broken into pieces which he doesn't even know where to start picking from.

@RED, I completely agree.

It's easier to mask in anger than to crumble down broken beyond repair. Karan has subconsciously shut down his emotional quotient to avoid any sort of self confession about his broken heart.

But he does make confessions now and then, that he's unhappy and angry and broken. And he's forever depressed. Is he depressed that Preeta is gone? Or is he depressed that the revenge is over? Or is he depressed coz his life seems dull? Only HE knows.

And to top it all, his father's condition cemented the mask of anger and into not only hateness for preeta but self loathing to have fallen for a woman who chose the man who has supposedly caused the accident.

I don't see self-loathing, I see a LOT of loathing for Preeta. Like SO MUCH he has no space for self-loathing at all.

Karan's character has not changed nor has been shown heartless. Ironically, it is extremely human what is shown if him right now. The constant unacknowledged mental fights has taken a toll on him.

Karan's core hasn't changed. He was always whimsical and very unhinged. Earlier, we saw the lighter side of that, and now is the extreme side to it.

If he is forgivable or not? Certainly not, from a third person's point of view. Who is not in his shoes. But for preeta? Let time decide. Pseudo feminism and pyschological facts are two different things. We as women tend to bring self respect and girl card over everything and anything. It's important that if we are investing ourselves in a show, we should be unbiased..

More than girl card or anything, what Karan did is unforgivable because Preeta is innocent, and he was tricked. However, eventually, if Preeta does forgive him, it will be at a point when Karan would have redeemed himself. All of us here, at least most of us, are enjoying this ride of theirs, some are more skeptical. But how we view those actions, are based on our own opinions and experiences, and those would lend some bias to our views and judgements.

If a character is wrong, then it's wrong, no denying but it's equally important to realise why he did what he did when we know for a fact he was not shown this way earlier..

On the contrary, he was always shown to be unpredictable, short-tempered, stubborn, arrogant, a little judgemental, highly critical and very strong-headed. That was the Jekyll to him, and now we are seeing the Hyde version of him.

Bdw, this is not to whitewash Karan. I am a psychiatrist by profession and just tried to get into the head of the character.

Originally posted by: RishabhXPreeta

I like your explanation. But writing that Karan 'wasn't' portrayed the way he is being portrayed post Rishabh's marriage is probably a misplaced error of judgement. Karan and all his dialogues from the very beginning have in my opinion been constant to whatever, he has done post Rishabh-Sherlyn's wedding and also post his own wedding. In fact his opinion regarding Preeta and his own assessment of Preeta prior to Rishabh-Sherlyn's engagement wasn't any different from Kareena's. Karan always had an ego larger than his stature and a sense of superiority stemming from the early onset of success in his career.

More than anything else Karan has been shown to believe 'evidences' more than anything else, and even more importantly Karan and his dependency emotional and otherwise on his brother has been highlighted by the makers throughout. Karan did NOT trust Preeta out of thin air, his trust stemmed from the lie which he was able to catch himself post the engagement by Sherlyn, later on cemented by seeing Sherlyn with her boyfriend in the hotel.

The thing I'm trying to write is that Karan and his friendship with Preeta was 'based' on the foundation of 'saving' Rishabh from Sherlyn. However, once the foundation broke, only the residual feelings pre episode 50 remained, which included classism, chauvinism and deeply rooted sexist misogyny, taken to over-drive because of his over-inflated ego, and superiority complex.

However, I don't think the foundation is broken because of the wedding. The trust is shattered and it was shattered that much sooner because he was already broken enough about the happening of the wedding itself. Otherwise, he won't have tears in his eyes all the time. Yeah, he is an MCP, he's got an ego, he's misogynistic. Every adjective you have used to describe him is perfect. However, the foundation of Karan-Preeta's friendship wasn't solely based on trust. It became a lot more than that. A lot of times Karan has told that there was no other girl like Preeta, she was excellent, a good girl etc. And he's tried SO very hard to save her from Prithvi's clutches. And, over time, it transcended into love, which both of them assumed was sublime friendship, which it was.

And though the building of that friendship, the foundation is broken, its remnants remain, and they no longer have anything to do with the past. Karan can't or is not willing to explain them anymore. That said, he may have gone back to the first 50 episodes' Karan, but that Karan was not tarnished by Preeta's presence, her memories, her friendship, her love, her life, but this one now, has all of that as an additional baggage. And why I say tarnished, it is because they seem like they are sucking the life out of him. Again, I don't feel sorry for him. I am sadistic enough to enjoy his pain-ride. 😳

I agree with you all and disagree with you all !!!!!! WHY HAVE WE NOT HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE?????!!!!!!!!!!!! 😳

Everyone who has ever watched Kundali Bhagya for any significant period of time, has always only complained about the dragging and the quantity of Prithvi-Sherlyn in the show. But WHY don't we talk about how 'well written' most of these characters are and sometimes how overtly meaningful some of the dialogues are?!?!

Like a few weeks ago when the Luthras recieved the fake legal notice, the conversation just before that scene between Rishabh and Karan and the acting performance by Manit and Dheeraj spoke volumes!!!

Sorry out of topic.....

How does one delete a post now?????? 😊

Originally posted by: TheM5393

I agree with you all and disagree with you all !!!!!! WHY HAVE WE NOT HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE?????!!!!!!!!!!!! 😳

Then start commenting on everything you agree with, and everything you disagree with. 😆 *wipes hands in glee*

Also, why not before? Idk man, I guess the story is more interesting now. Personally, I was irritated with KZK and realised how good this show is. Also it is more interesting now.

Everyone who has ever watched Kundali Bhagya for any significant period of time, has always only complained about the dragging and the quantity of Prithvi-Sherlyn in the show. But WHY don't we talk about how 'well written' most of these characters are and sometimes how overtly meaningful some of the dialogues are?!?!

We are talking now, dear. So you join the discussion too! A show like KDB with beautifully written characters deserves a happening Forum also.

Idk, I think it took sometime for me to accept that PrithLyn are not a track that will end, but are as constant as Karan and Preeta. And since then, I have enjoyed everything about the show. And not just the leads, each and every character is extremely well-written, perfect dialogues, even the misunderstandings are not the mistakes from CVs but the fallacies of the characters.

Like a few weeks ago when the Luthras recieved the fake legal notice, the conversation just before that scene between Rishabh and Karan and the acting performance by Manit and Dheeraj spoke volumes!!!

Precisely. I LOVE their Bromance. Their scenes, their acting TOO GOOD. Rishabh especially. Rishabh is this excellent coz Manit pulls it off so well and with so much ease.

Originally posted by: TheM5393

Sorry out of topic.....

How does one delete a post now?????? 😊