Minnie's Father, From Ashok to HS - Page 20

I agree with you all about Mickey. He has always been crass, but I've never seen him outright be disrespectful to an elder except Khatri. The lines might've started blurring with HS, but surely he would've still known his limits?

If they wanted us to think of HS as Mini's protector, that's something we've always seen via actions. Usse bol ke kya faida. 😒

I found the comment so unnecessary. It irritated me just as much as Lala asking Mini to not come in between her parents and give them space. Unnecessary distortion of the characters we love.

Funny how I'm focusing on one offhand remark. This show has truly spoiled me.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I don't think she's wasting her time on her mother. She will always support Babita but it doesn't mean she can't look at her own needs too.

For her to be a kid, she needs to have adults around her who let her have that space. As HS and Babita's relationship stabilize, Minnie can learn to let go a little.

I think Minnie might benefit from the same lesson HS gave her a while ago about trusting her mother to fight her own battles and supporting her as a coach, since Babita is the one who has to go out and play on the field.

Exactly....she can freely be a kid when the adults stop being childish...lol

For HS-Babita’s relationship to stabilize, HS-Mini need to get back to trusting each other completely about tackling things. That will go a long way in sorting out all three dynamics.

When they trust each other again, they will remember all these old lessons about how to handle relationships, when to let go. Cuz there will be that bharosa again of being able to count on each other.

Originally posted by: tk2015

I agree with you all about Mickey. He has always been crass, but I've never seen him outright be disrespectful to an elder except Khatri. The lines might've started blurring with HS, but surely he would've still known his limits?

If they wanted us to think of HS as Mini's protector, that's something we've always seen via actions. Usse bol ke kya faida. 😒

I found the comment so unnecessary. It irritated me just as much as Lala asking Mini to not come in between her parents and give them space. Unnecessary distortion of the characters we love.

Funny how I'm focusing on one offhand remark. This show has truly spoiled me.

I agree. Mickey has been crass with his friends but I still didn’t think it made sense for him to be that way with HS. That scene definitely felt gimmicky.

Lol yes, this show has spoilt us indeed and we do expect a lot more in terms of nuance and character consistency behind maintained.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I don't think she's wasting her time on her mother. She will always support Babita but it doesn't mean she can't look at her own needs too.

For her to be a kid, she needs to have adults around her who let her have that space. As HS and Babita's relationship stabilize, Minnie can learn to let go a little.

I think Minnie might benefit from the same lesson HS gave her a while ago about trusting her mother to fight her own battles and supporting her as a coach, since Babita is the one who has to go out and play on the field.

It's so easy to find a solution to a problem. It's very difficult to work towards it. I think this is another thing Mini deals with and has yet to learn.

People say she has to stop being a mother. Yeah, she wants to. Why else was she so happy during the marriage? She wants her mother's happiness but a part of it was because she was going to finally have someone sharing this relationship with her.

From the very first episode we've seen her shoulder Babita's responsibility. It hasn't changed because she hasn't got a chance to change it. She wanted to hand off that responsibility to Ashok but that never happened.

And no, I'm not saying she has been Babes' mother since she was born. I mean she feels a sense of responsibility to shield her mother from people. Everyone with a naive mother will relate to this. It's just that this emotion has increased multifold because of the scars Ashok gave them.

Now with this marriage, it'll change slowly but everything has just gone haywire for now.

Originally posted by: tk2015

I guess they're waiting for Babita to grow into this strong woman who beats him up himself. Learns how to stand up for herself in the very moment something wrong happens. Not ages later.

Par yeh toh second last episode mein hoga shayad. 😆

Episode 500.

Didn't she learn karate? She can beat him up herself even now.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yes, I don’t think anyone disagrees that Mini needs to learn to balance and let go many times as well.

I don’t think she consciously wants to fight all of Babita’s battles, but she can’t help herself when she sees her mom in pain or discomfort....it’s an instinct that drives her to try to take away her mother’s pain. Much like the instinct that drives many parents to want to fight all battles for their children. It’s a struggle to let go and let the child grow on its own. That is what Mini struggles with because in many ways, Babita gives the impression of a clueless and hapless child....so Mini steps up to play parent.

But at the end of the day, Mini isn’t really a parent. She’s been a pseudo parent to Babita in some ways but she can’t fully know what it means. Which is why she struggles more with letting go of Babita to let her fall and hurt herself.....If she was an actual adult trying to be a parent, she would see some of the pitfalls of this differently...but she’s a child trying to be a parent so that compounds some mistakes.

There was a lovely scene during the depression track when Babita talks to Mini about how she taught her to walk and how she used to be so scared of Mini falling and hurting herself, she used to cling tightly to her hand....but ultimately she realized she had to let go of her hand and she did.....

That’s the lesson Mini has to learn as well I guess. She was kinda learning it when she put Babita’s hand in that of HS’s during the wedding and tried to step back but the CD incident flipped everything again.

@bold, exactly. I'm sorry to sound like a broken record, but that's why she needs HS and even NB more than ever. She needs to realize that she needs to find a balance. I don't think she gets it yet.

Originally posted by: Jiarao

He will gain his confidence back when Mini actually confronts him about CD issue.

This HS with low confidence is so strange to see and his lack of confidence is also affecting Minnie's confidence.

Originally posted by: tk2015

It's so easy to find a solution to a problem. It's very difficult to work towards it. I think this is another thing Mini deals with and has yet to learn.

People say she has to stop being a mother. Yeah, she wants to. Why else was she so happy during the marriage? She wants her mother's happiness but a part of it was because she was going to finally have someone sharing this relationship with her.

From the very first episode we've seen her shoulder Babita's responsibility. It hasn't changed because she hasn't got a chance to change it. She wanted to hand off that responsibility to Ashok but that never happened.

And no, I'm not saying she has been Babes' mother since she was born. I mean she feels a sense of responsibility to shield her mother from people. Everyone with a naive mother will relate to this. It's just that this emotion has increased multifold because of the scars Ashok gave them.

Now with this marriage, it'll change slowly but everything has just gone haywire for now.

Bang on! 👏🏻👏🏻

No one said that she’s been Babes’s mother since she was born. But she HAS shouldered her responsibility for a lot of her young life so she continues to feel responsible since her mother IS naïve and hapless even now in many ways.

Mini has tried a zillion different ways to empower Babita and make her independent....this marriage is a chance at happiness that she wants for her mother.

But the problem is that neither Babita nor HS make her feel confident right now that they will manage it on their own. She knows Babita’s tendencies to shift blame and play victim. She can see HS’s confidence all shaken. So she doesn’t feel like she can let them be....she feels the need to step in when she sees them faltering.

Unless HS-Babita handle their own equation maturely, a kid like Mini who’s always been intelligent and perceptive will invariably try to help. They need to account for her perceptions and her personality in this marriage too.

Originally posted by: tk2015

I agree with you all about Mickey. He has always been crass, but I've never seen him outright be disrespectful to an elder except Khatri. The lines might've started blurring with HS, but surely he would've still known his limits?

If they wanted us to think of HS as Mini's protector, that's something we've always seen via actions. Usse bol ke kya faida. 😒

I found the comment so unnecessary. It irritated me just as much as Lala asking Mini to not come in between her parents and give them space. Unnecessary distortion of the characters we love.

Funny how I'm focusing on one offhand remark. This show has truly spoiled me.

Yeah, but the dialogues on this show are always there for a reason.

Calling him a chaukidaar kind of takes away from his rutba as a thanedaar, and in some ways reflects his lowered esteem in Mickey's eyes.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Exactly....she can freely be a kid when the adults stop being childish...lol

For HS-Babita’s relationship to stabilize, HS-Mini need to get back to trusting each other completely about tackling things. That will go a long way in sorting out all three dynamics.

When they trust each other again, they will remember all these old lessons about how to handle relationships, when to let go. Cuz there will be that bharosa again of being able to count on each other.

I also think all three of them need to stop over thinking things. Just feel, just let things flow a bit.

Too much analysis can spoil things as well.