Where is Ranveer and Alia's National Awards? - Page 8

The Meryl Streep of India and bharat ki beti being ignored is the biggest mistake by India. They will regret this for generations to come.

The wooden horse will not rest until justice has been given. 😡😡😡

I dunno why movie mafia chose to harm alia at the cost of Kangu.

Ranveer is famous because of Deepikas bot followers. Before their relationship was leeked to media, he was touted as chunkey pandey junior

Originally posted by: mystic786

Arre bhai please Google Ranveer Singh Khilji performance reviews or even Padmaavat reviews and you'll easily find more than a dozen articles from across the world praising his performance and calling him the best thing in the film. Everyone knows this... why are you bothering to even refute this fact? Seems like Melisssa is totally right.

Critics didn't praise Ranveer because he looked like Khal Drogo or a barbarian king blah blah blah.. they praised him because of his *drum roll* ACTING 😆

And you're again wrong when you said that Ranveer's only performances considered NA worthy are BM and Padmaavat. He was brilliant in films like Lootera and Gully Boy too so he was definitely more deserving than Vicky and Ayushmann for URI and Andhadhun, respectively.

I consider Vicky and Ranveer to be the best actors right now but Vicky's performance in URI was not anything special (critics think so too) because there wasn't much scope to begin with given how poorly the character was written.

Also, I again reiterate what I've said before. Ranveer is versatile and is being touted as such because his character and film choices are very diverse. Changing your look is secondary lol even a kid would understand this fact. Also, when you play such distinct roles you would obviously look different in each film. I don't know what is sooo hard to understand about this 😆

According to your logic, Ranveer just changes his look in each film and voila critics call him a great actor? Bhai acting kaun karta hai fir? Bhansali? 😆

Not everyone can play themselves in every film like Varun, Ayushmann, Kartik, or RK being a man child in each film 🤣

So you can claim Ayushmann and RK play themselves in every movie although they too get critical acclaim for their performances just like your favourite and have even got awards this year. But I can't claim that your favourite devtaa Ranveer is an overrated actor who can't stop his overacting? You are passing your one opinion as a fact based on what critics say, yet you're not agreeing with critics on another thing.

I was not talking about critics. Its people on this forum who praise him for his versatility based on how he changes his looks. And why the heck will I look at critic reviews to form an opinion about his performance? I didn't find his performance special and that's it. In this forum every other actor is bashed and is called overrated. Ranbir's performance in Sanju was called overrated. Aamir in Dangal was called overrated. Kangana's Queen is called overrated. Those performances too have got critical acclaim and awards. But their fans don't come all the time to defend their favourites performances by using critical acclaim or the awards they got.

No matter what critics or "a dozen articles across the world" say. I'll not change my opinion on his performance. Accept it and live with that fact.

Lootera's performance was never considered to be NA award worthy by his fans. The movie itself was a Flop and nobody cared other than his fans. For Gully Boy we'll see what happens next year. Whether he's considered a contender for award or not, and not just by blind fans(as they will consider his every performance award worthy), but by neutrals too.

Not gonna bother replying to the rest because your arguments are always based on your personal dislike for Ranveer not facts so it's pointless. You keep refuting facts and figures. 😆

@Bold Like Melisssa said don't flatter yourself. I'm not in any way trying to convince you that Ranveer is a great actor. You made some false claims and I gave counter points to those false claims for e.g. the fact that he didn't receive widespread critical acclaim for his performance in Padmaavat, he is called versatile only because he changes his looks etc etc. You can still continue to think that Ranveer is the shittiest actor right now. Enjoy! 😆

Originally posted by: Luna46

So you can claim Ayushmann and RK play themselves in every movie although they too get critical acclaim for their performances just like your favourite and have even got awards this year. But I can't claim that your favourite devtaa Ranveer is an overrated actor who can't stop his overacting? You are passing your one opinion as a fact based on what critics say, yet you're not agreeing with critics on another thing.

I was not talking about critics. Its people on this forum who praise him for his versatility based on how he changes his looks. And why the heck will I look at critic reviews to form an opinion about his performance? I didn't find his performance special and that's it. In this forum every other actor is bashed and is called overrated. Ranbir's performance in Sanju was called overrated. Aamir in Dangal was called overrated. Kangana's Queen is called overrated. Those performances too have got critical acclaim and awards. But their fans don't come all the time to defend their favourites performances by using critical acclaim or the awards they got.

No matter what critics or "a dozen articles across the world" say. I'll not change my opinion on his performance. Accept it and live with that fact.

Lootera's performance was never considered to be NA award worthy by his fans. The movie itself was a Flop and nobody cared other than his fans. For Gully Boy we'll see what happens next year. Whether he's considered a contender for award or not, and not just by blind fans(as they will consider his every performance award worthy), but by neutrals too.

Originally posted by: Melissaa

@bold:You please read what you wrote before accusing others of not understanding the context and twisting things others said. In your first comment you talked about his getups and changing looks being the main reason for him being hailed as a good actor so SH brought up BBB, Lootera, DDD and GB where he got critical acclaim even though he was not in any getup/costume. Your argument to that was 'except for GB no hoopla of awards was created for other performances SH mentioned'. Thats when SH brought up he was nominated for DDD, RL, Lootera (his normal looks) in some award shows and how he won awards for BBB. Your argument for that was despite the critical acclaim he did not win the awards and how even Salman get award noms for dancing at award shows.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/150991189?tid=5108175

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/150991275?tid=5108175

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/150991439?tid=5108175

And my comment was wrt to your counter arguments for SH when he brought up RS's other non-getup wala normal guy looks that got him critical and award nods/wins. I simply countered all the points you raised to put down SH's arguments supporting his normal guy performances by saying critical acclaim means nothing if he did not get an award nom or award win for those roles. I simply said that a lot of actors great performances get snubbed at award shows so no one is proving anything by bringing up these points since a lot of other great performances have got snubbed of award wins and noms. I actually was countering your arguments against his non-getup change wala, normal guy looks by showing that if we use your logic so many other actors could be called bad actors too since they did not win or get award nods despite universal critical acclaim. So where have I not understood the context. I just countered your argument by applying your logic and barometer in other actors cases.

So read my original comment which triggered you and show me how and where I have not understood or followed the context or your argument. I was talking about his normal guy none getup looks change roles here.

"A lot of actors despite getting critical acclaim and nominations for their performance do not win awards some of the recipients of this years NAs have been in the same boat in the past. Also some critically acclaimed performances of actors get snubbed in the award season is a fact (again some winnersnof this years have been subjected to this) phir bhi Ranveer is the exception to everything. Others get a pass get hailed as a good actor despite no nominations and no award wins for universally critically acclaimed performances but Ranveer should win the awards to prove that he is a good actor. Can give loads of examples such instances too."

@italics: I don't care wheather you are ranting or triggered or having fun just wanted to show the loopholes in your arguments. Again you or others here calling RS a bad actor, overrated does not change anything because it is not a fact but a mere opinion and I have no desire to change the opinions on his acting but just could not let the opportunity to rattle someone's really weak argument to bash him. So stop flattering yourself thinking that I'm trying to change your opinion about RS because I'm not... I don't speak for others in the 'fandom' but personally I don't give a damn to what his detractors online say about him. They have been saying all sort of things about him for ages it did not affect him in anyway. I only indulge with his haters/bashers/detractors when they make things up or make illogical arguments or come up with absurd or ill-informed narratives just to bash him. I hardly indulge in arguments with others over RS otherwise.

You got triggered by one dig that you started quoting me to twist what I was saying.. Also who told I was triggered just like you even I'm having fun, I already told you before.

Look who is writing essays now.😆 I thought you didn't want any explanation. In your original post nowhere you mentioned the term "non-get up" for his performances. And this thread was about Ranveer getting snubbed for his performance in Padmaavat. So how am I supposed to know that you are talking about his past performances and not Padmaavat? If you want me to understand what you're saying then quote me properly but of course that wasn't your original intention.

I never said critical acclaim means nothing, but those performances were never considered award worthy, whether he won or not, not even by his fans. Or do you actually believe Ranveer deserves awards for Befikre, BBB or DDD? Khair fans ka kya hai. They will believe their favourites every performance is Oscar worthy but even neutrals don't support it. His performances which are considered award worthy until now are Padmaavat and BM. And both the roles were where he changed looks and get-up.

Opinion hai na? To opinion ki tarah lene ka. Don't get triggered when someone calls RS bad or overrated actor. And yes, you're getting triggered. Every other actor is called overrated here. But their fans don't come and jump on everyone who says that. Yaha to log bina kisi backing ke bol dete hai so and so actor is overrated. Ye RS me case mein hi you have to provide proofs and everything lmao.

Yeah yeah, you don't have any desire and you don't give a damn, but you still can't get over the fact that someone bashed your favourite and can't resist taking digs. For fanatics, every argument will be illogical and absurd.

Originally posted by: mystic786

Not gonna bother replying to the rest because your arguments are always based on your personal dislike for Ranveer not facts so it's pointless. You keep refuting facts and figures. 😆

@Bold Like Melisssa said don't flatter yourself. I'm not in anyway trying to convince you that Ranveer is a great actor. You made some false claims and I gave counter points to those false claims for e.g. the fact that he didn't receive widespread critical acclaim for his performance in Padmaavat, etc etc. You can still continue to think that Ranveer is the shittiest actor right now. Enjoy!😆

And your arguments are always based on your personal love for Ranveer isn't it? So yes, even arguing with you is pointless. Facts and figures are also that RK and Ayushmann have got critical acclaim and awards for their performances. And by that logic you too refuted them? Actually hatred is only for their fans, not the actor.

Padmaavat never got critical acclaim, when did I say that? I said I don't care what critics say. Like I said, twisting words is old habit of your fandom.

Originally posted by: mystic786

he is called versatile only because he changes his looks etc etc. You can still continue to think that Ranveer is the shittiest actor right now. Enjoy! 😆

Originally posted by: Luna46

So you can claim Ayushmann and RK play themselves in every movie although they too get critical acclaim for their performances just like your favourite and have even got awards this year. But I can't claim that your favourite devtaa Ranveer is an overrated actor who can't stop his overacting? You are passing your one opinion as a fact based on what critics say, yet you're not agreeing with critics on another thing.

I was not talking about critics. Its people on this forum who praise him for his versatility based on how he changes his looks. And why the heck will I look at critic reviews to form an opinion about his performance? I didn't find his performance special and that's it. In this forum every other actor is bashed and is called overrated. Ranbir's performance in Sanju was called overrated. Aamir in Dangal was called overrated. Kangana's Queen is called overrated. Those performances too have got critical acclaim and awards. But their fans don't come all the time to defend their favourites performances by using critical acclaim or the awards they got.

No matter what critics or "a dozen articles across the world" say. I'll not change my opinion on his performance. Accept it and live with that fact.

Lootera's performance was never considered to be NA award worthy by his fans. The movie itself was a Flop and nobody cared other than his fans. For Gully Boy we'll see what happens next year. Whether he's considered a contender for award or not, and not just by blind fans(as they will consider his every performance award worthy), but by neutrals too.

Read what I have written before going off again. Keep on repeating twisting what I said but it will not change that your previous arguelments were full of loopholes. I only said what said because by applying the points you raised in your previous arguments to dismiss his non-costume normal guy acts than some other great performances of other actors could be dismissed as bad too since even some of them did not get award noms or wins despite critcal acclaim. Mind you you were not talking about NA only before or else you would not have metioned people getting award noms by just dancing at shows if you were talking aboiut NA so stop bringing up Lootera and GB NA noms because that was never a conversation I was having with you in the first place. Not liking someone's performace is a personal choice but bringing up award noms, award wins to prove someone is bad actor was when I said what I said because if we use the same on some other great performances of good actors then even they are bad too.

So stop going off at a tangent and trying to make this argument in to something it is not.

And please stop flattering yourself by thinking that I'm trying to change your opinion on his act whcich I'm not... As I said before I only said anything because your whole argument to dismiss his other performances. And I'm not pasing my opinion as a fact your argument was weak so I merely showed that only. You can say RS is a bad actor I will not mind at all but the points you used to dismiss his performances were so weak that I just could not resist counter arguing.

And please I have seen people coming at you for saying Sanju was bad performance (there was a whole thread) so please don't try to make it something only RS fans do.

National awards kharid ke bhi kya ukhaad liya Kangoli ne? She still needs Taapsees and Mishtis to promote her crap films. 2-3 Crs ki chillar opening ke liye itna nanga naach karti rehti hai. Fir bhi 9th Disaster in a row🤣🤣

Arre why should we even dismiss Ranveer's prfomances in BM and Padmaavat? Just because Luna46 says so? 😆

Costume pehen liya and daadhi uga li toh kya usne acting nahi ki? Bhansali ne ki hai? This is probably the most illogical argument I've heard in recent times 😆

Originally posted by: Melissaa

Read what I have written before going off again. Keep on repeating twisting what I said but it will not change that your previous arguelments were full of loopholes. I only said what said because by applying the points you raised in your previous arguments to dismiss his non-costume normal guy acts than some other great performances of other actors could be dismissed as bad too since even some of them did not get award noms or wins despite critcal acclaim. Mind you you were not talking about NA only before or else you would not have metioned people getting award noms by just dancing at shows if you were talking aboiut NA so stop bringing up Lootera and GB NA noms because that was never a conversation I was having with you in the first place. Not liking someone's performace is a personal choice but bringing up award noms, award wins to prove someone is bad actor was when I said what I said because if we use the same on some other great performances of good actors then even they are bad too.

So stop going off at a tangent and trying to make this argument in to something it is not.

And please stop flattering yourself by thinking that I'm trying to change your opinion on his act whcich I'm not... As I said before I only said anything because your whole argument to dismiss his other performances. And I'm not pasing my opinion as a fact your argument was weak so I merely showed that only. You can say RS is a bad actor I will not mind at all but the points you used to dismiss his performances were so weak that I just could not resist counter arguing.

And please I have seen people coming at you for saying Sanju was bad performance (there was a whole thread) so please don't try to make it something only RS fans do.

Originally posted by: Luna46

Look who is writing essays now.😆 I thought you didn't want any explanation. In your original post nowhere you mentioned the term "non-get up" for his performances. And this thread was about Ranveer getting snubbed for his performance in Padmaavat. So how am I supposed to know that you are talking about his past performances and not Padmaavat? If you want me to understand what you're saying then quote me properly but of course that wasn't your original intention.

I never said critical acclaim means nothing, but those performances were never considered award worthy, whether he won or not, not even by his fans. Or do you actually believe Ranveer deserves awards for Befikre, BBB or DDD? Khair fans ka kya hai. They will believe their favourites every performance is Oscar worthy but even neutrals don't support it. His performances which are considered award worthy until now are Padmaavat and BM. And both the roles were where he changed looks and get-up.

Opinion hai na? To opinion ki tarah lene ka. Don't get triggered when someone calls RS bad or overrated actor. And yes, you're getting triggered. Every other actor is called overrated here. But their fans don't come and jump on everyone who says that. Yaha to log bina kisi backing ke bol dete hai so and so actor is overrated. Ye RS me case mein hi you have to provide proofs and everything lmao.

Yeah yeah, you don't have any desire and you don't give a damn, but you still can't get over the fact that someone bashed your favourite and can't resist taking digs. For fanatics, every argument will be illogical and absurd.

Please if you have read my first comment itself I was taunting you for your convo with SH only. You are trying to twist what I wrote in to something it is not... One need to write essays when others don't understand and get triggered about what one wrote so the other party could understand. When people use baseless and illogical arguments to bash people, I would counter them if the person getting bashed is a non-fave too.

@bold: precisely the reason why I wrote the below comment in the first place.

"A lot of actors despite getting critical acclaim and nominations for their performance do not win awards some of the recipients of this years NAs have been in the same boat in the past. Also some critically acclaimed performances of actors get snubbed in the award season is a fact (again some winnersnof this years have been subjected to this) phir bhi Ranveer is the exception to everything. Others get a pass get hailed as a good actor despite no nominations and no award wins for universally critically acclaimed performances but Ranveer should win the awards to prove that he is a good actor. Can give loads of examples such instances too" agree with it or diagree, don't care.

I actually wrote another detailed reply so yeah hopefully now you understand my issue with your comment was not because you called him overrated or bad but because of the ensuing convo you had with SH. Call him overrated 500 times I will not give a damn. So I can understand why you are going on off at a tanget because you thought my comment was for your first comment but it was not so now you can rest because I'm not trying to change your opinion about his acting here.