Where is Ranveer and Alia's National Awards? - Page 7

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Ranbir was better in Sanju than all of them.

Oh yeah. We should award a film that glorified a terrorist.

Originally posted by: Luna46

Do you even know on what context I was speaking? This whole argument started because I claimed Ranveer changing looks in films doesn't make him a great actor. SH was questioning my claim by bringing other performances of Ranveer like BBB, DDD, Befikre where he didn't change look. But those performances were never considered award worthy even if they were critically acclaimed. Only BM and Padmaavat were because he changed looks in those. The whole "critically acclaimed" thing wasn't even used for Padmaavat, so I don't know where this national award thing is coming. I know whatever I'm saying will again fall in deaf ears, but if you actually want to understand, please again go through the replies to know what is actually being talked about. Don't just get triggered because your favourite is being bashed.

No one is ranting here darling. I'm not such a big fool to rant on an SH thread. I was just playing with him. I'm actually talking about your favourite after a long time and you losing your shit over that and even claiming that I get triggered the most here shows how much you are triggered by my posts. And yes, I consider him overrated and no award or critical acclaim can make me change my opinion unless I see it for myself. Every other actor from Khans to RK to Alia are bashed here and are called pathetic actors. None of their fandoms come to defend it all the time by using their awards or critical acclaim. Its only your fandom who can't accept your favourite not being considered the best by others.

@bold:You please read what you wrote before accusing others of not understanding the context and twisting things others said. In your first comment you talked about his getups and changing looks being the main reason for him being hailed as a good actor so SH brought up BBB, Lootera, DDD and GB where he got critical acclaim even though he was not in any getup/costume. Your argument to that was 'except for GB no hoopla of awards was created for other performances SH mentioned'. Thats when SH brought up he was nominated for DDD, RL, Lootera (his normal looks) in some award shows and how he won awards for BBB. Your argument for that was despite the critical acclaim he did not win the awards and how even Salman get award noms for dancing at award shows.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/150991189?tid=5108175

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/150991275?tid=5108175

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/150991439?tid=5108175

And my comment was wrt to your counter arguments for SH when he brought up RS's other non-getup wala normal guy looks that got him critical and award nods/wins. I simply countered all the points you raised to put down SH's arguments supporting his normal guy performances by saying critical acclaim means nothing if he did not get an award nom or award win for those roles. I simply said that a lot of actors great performances get snubbed at award shows so no one is proving anything by bringing up these points since a lot of other great performances have got snubbed of award wins and noms. I actually was countering your arguments against his non-getup change wala, normal guy looks by showing that if we use your logic so many other actors could be called bad actors too since they did not win or get award nods despite universal critical acclaim. So where have I not understood the context. I just countered your argument by applying your logic and barometer in other actors cases.

So read my original comment which triggered you and show me how and where I have not understood or followed the context or your argument. I was talking about his normal guy none getup looks change roles here.

"A lot of actors despite getting critical acclaim and nominations for their performance do not win awards some of the recipients of this years NAs have been in the same boat in the past. Also some critically acclaimed performances of actors get snubbed in the award season is a fact (again some winnersnof this years have been subjected to this) phir bhi Ranveer is the exception to everything. Others get a pass get hailed as a good actor despite no nominations and no award wins for universally critically acclaimed performances but Ranveer should win the awards to prove that he is a good actor. Can give loads of examples such instances too."

@italics: I don't care wheather you are ranting or triggered or having fun just wanted to show the loopholes in your arguments. Again you or others here calling RS a bad actor, overrated does not change anything because it is not a fact but a mere opinion and I have no desire to change the opinions on his acting but just could not let the opportunity to rattle someone's really weak argument to bash him. So stop flattering yourself thinking that I'm trying to change your opinion about RS because I'm not... I don't speak for others in the 'fandom' but personally I don't give a damn to what his detractors online say about him. They have been saying all sort of things about him for ages it did not affect him in anyway. I only indulge with his haters/bashers/detractors when they make things up or make illogical arguments or come up with absurd or ill-informed narratives just to bash him. I hardly indulge in arguments with others over RS otherwise.

You got triggered by one dig that you started quoting me to twist what I was saying.. Also who told I was triggered just like you even I'm having fun, I already told you before.

😆 ... Karthik calling Karthik!

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

None of them deserved it...Ranveer, Ayushman or Vikki.....the NA should go to the best actor in any movie...not just a popular movie which erned big bucks......for one...Ranbir was better in Sanju than all of them....secondly...we don't even know how the actors performed in regional cinemas....but these 3 didn't deserve for sure...

But then NA had lost its credibility a long time back when Said won for Humtum over SRK for CDI......and it continues.....SLB for his Haathi ghoda palki in BM won over KK for Bajrangi....akki for Rustom was such a big joke...so even if u think that Veeru deserved it...NA is not that coveted or honest award anymore...so ho cares..its like any paan masala award now.

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan

Oh yeah. We should award a film that glorified a terrorist.

Read what I wrote...not the movie...the actor...the actor..the actor....not the movie...the actor....not the movie...the actor...did ya get it or u want me to repeat it?

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Read what I wrote...not the movie...the actor...the actor..the actor....not the movie...the actor....not the movie...the actor...did ya get it or u want me to repeat it?

Doesn’t matter we cannot afford to promote such things. Plus Ranbir was a mimicry artist at best lol

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan

Doesn’t matter we cannot afford to promote such things. Plus Ranbir was a mimicry artist at best lol

Thats ur opinion and its fine.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/150142123?tid=5086155

Originally posted by: Malpua

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