does bamini deserve puru's hatred ???

Bamini don't deserve puru's hatred or held responsible 4 anusuya's condition coz as per me anusuya herself is responsible for her condition not bamini & in whole takshila scenario everyone is culprit only bamini & puru r vicitims. Acc 2 some spoilers puru will think bamini as d reason of anusuya's ill fate , decides 2 avenge him but its totally wrong if they show this way as if u see coz of bamini only puru is alive today not coz of anusuya. Ripudaman was most trusted general or right hand of bamini not anusuya, he dedicated his life to pourav rashtra & bamini. If supposedly bamini had died & anusuya's truth dint came before ripudaman did he would had saved or helped anusuya ? well I don't think so.

Only Initally bamini was no doubt wrong towards anusuya but at right time he realized his mistake & did everything to give anusuya a happy & content life , yes anusuya lead a happy & content life before they came to takshila. Anusuya saw darius there but she dint felt informing it 2 bamini why coz she herself want to handle everything , she came 2 about his brother's intentions still she agreed to humiliate bamini , ripudaman who was senapati of pouravs asked her by she dint felt like telling him that was fine , bamini aksed her & she was about 2 tell but was blackmailed by ambiraj. In baby shower event when she started acting that she is against bamini , then also bamini trusted her till last moment he was in hope that anusuya will speak up but anusuya choose 2 be mum , ambhiraj played his game resulting bamini almost death but bamini was actually saved by his brother shivdutt & soldiers not anusuya who was in state of shock coz of her blind trust on herself & her brother ,

if u rewatched d scene bamini's army which was standing outside d castle of takshila broke in , shivdutt , ripudaman, samar singh & some of d soldiers were successfully guarding bamini took him to d main exit door without help of anusuya , ambiraj's army was not ableto harm bamini but d end when ambhiraj pointed arrow on bamini , then anusuya stopped ambiraj. Can she don't do this in d beginning ?? when bamini was asking her in d event that why she is doing it , she was busy doing acting god knows who was she saving, if she would had told everything 2 bamini in d event infront of ambiraj , bamini would had saved her, he was better warrior than ambhiraj, even pourav rashtra army & soldiers were better than takshila but she choose to keep mum after that whatever happened shivdutt & anusuya both r culprits not bamini. puru should not hate his father 4 his mother's condition. happy thta puru & bamini's thinking match.

i agree with you... bamini does not deserve hatred of puru for what happened to anasuya... it is shivdutt who does all this...

If u see bamini is not fully under d influence of Darius thats why his people still luv him, he is not a stupid or dumb king, yes bamini will learn lesson as i see him as a person who know how 2 rectify his mistake learn from his mistake .

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Till i have read, puru was supposed to take revenge against shivdutt for anusuya and yes shivdutt is responsible for his mother condition, whatever were the circumstances, shivdutt did hated anusuya from very beginning and if he did for his bro as he considered anusuya as someone who tried to kill her bro...then why he wanted to kill her child. And if he really felt that he was right in killing that child as it belonged to anusuya also, then why he had to lie about that to bamni. Khul kar sach bolta...jaise ambiraj clearly told anusuya that he dont want the child as it belonged to bamni too because he felt that was right. Shivdutt is wrong and he knows that, he just wanted a reason to kill anusuya and thats why he attacked her even when ripudaman told him the truth. He did not do all that in brother love. And no article mentioned that puru will hate bamni for anusuya condition. If you have some article which says that, please share the link. Yes, puru has problems with bamni but that's because of the way he is handling pourav rashtra and not because of anusuya. Moreover the site which give article regarding revenge from shivdutt keeps giving fake spoilers a lot, so even that is not trustworthy and neither the track is moving towards that as of now.

Bamini don't deserve puru's hatred or held responsible 4 anusuya's condition coz as per me anusuya herself is responsible for her condition not bamini & in whole takshila scenario everyone is culprit only bamini & puru r vicitims. No anusuya is not responsible for her condition...she didnt do anything to deserve such a miserable life, she deserved a happy life with bamni. She deserved her son to be with her. If trusting your brother is a crime, than even bamni is himself responsible that he is away from puru and anusuya today as he also blindly believed shivdutt and dint look for his child. Bamni was with anusya for more than 9 months...dint he knew her. She was someone who accepted to live as sevak just to avoid fights, why will she do all this. And he knew it so strongly that something was wrong and kept on asking, why didnt he tried to find out when he recovered. He did remembered the dialogue of anusuya that if he trusts her, he was noticing how anusuya was sitting shocked in front of him while he was dying...why will she be shocked if she planned it for revenge and even their is a clip that he looks at anusuya pointing talwar at ambiraj in behoshi ki haalat. So many hints and one sentence from his brother that his wife jumped with his son into river and he believed. If anusuya was wrong to trust her brother, bamni was wrong too. And no bamni too has a role in all that, had he not done all that to anusya, ambiraj wouldnt have been so angry to plan all that against him. He was the one who insulted takshilla by throwing insult on anusuya face. That nose ring thing was from ambiraj was wrong too but what bamni did was much more wrong. It was disgusting of him to do all that just for revenge.

Acc 2 some spoilers puru will think bamini as d reason of anusuya's ill fate , decides 2 avenge him but its totally wrong if they show this way as if u see coz of bamini only puru is alive today not coz of anusuya. Ripudaman was most trusted general or right hand of bamini not anusuya, he dedicated his life to pourav rashtra & bamini. If supposedly bamini had died & anusuya's truth dint came before ripudaman did he would had saved or helped anusuya ? well I don't think so. Sorry, but this made me laugh ...i mean like really...puru is alive because of bamni and not anusuya. Agar woh birth na deti...toh kaise alive hota...please elaborate. Itna pain sehkar jis maa ne janam diya...woh hi responsible nahi hain zindagi ke liye...waaahhh. Even if ripudaman had not helped anusuya...anusuya apne bache ko bachane ki poori koshish karti. Puru ki zindagi ke liye sirf ripudaman nahi anusuya bhi zimmedaar hain. And bamni...itna trustworthy tha na uska...kya kiya usne uske liye. Uski lash dekhne tak nahi aaya...uski family kaha hain, kaise hain kuch nahi dekha. He knew ripu had a son na, kyun nahi poocha aaj tak uske baarein mein ? Usee behtar toh shivdutt tha is maamle mein, got his man sister married to bamni and made her life. And bamni is being given credit for ripudaman bravery...wow...ripudaman have not saved anusuya just because she was queen, he saved her because she was not wrong. And he respected his king not just because he was a good king but because he was a dedicated senapati. Agar koi employee acha kaam karta hain toh iska matlab yeh nahi ki credit boss ko hi milna chahiye bas. It was ripudaman bravery that he saved porus.

Only Initally bamini was no doubt wrong towards anusuya but at right time he realized his mistake & did everything to give anusuya a happy & content life , yes anusuya lead a happy & content life before they came to takshila. Still, there is no maafi for what he did. He did repented, that's true. And Anusuya has a big heart ...that she forgave him so easily.

Anusuya saw darius there but she dint felt informing it 2 bamini why coz she herself want to handle everything , Or may be because that was a happy occasion, two enemies just came together and she didn't wanted to spoil things...and moreover she was not sure in the beginning ki usne dekha hain ya uska veham hain and at last she is a warrior princess and thus isnt supposed to run to her husband for everything. She can handle things...she was the one who saved bamni 2 times from darius, and after she went we all can see what bamni has converted pourav rashtra into by joining hands with darius.So if she thought, she might handle, she wasnt wrong. she came 2 about his brother's intentions still she agreed to humiliate bamini ,This one point she was wrong...because i believe ek king ke liye jaaan se jyaada maan hota hain...anusuya kaise maan gayi is cheeej ke liye...but her heart was pure...usse sach mein laga tha ki isse dushmani khatam ho jaaye shayad...because bamni will definitellly accept her punishment. ripudaman who was senapati of pouravs asked her by she dint felt like telling him Her doubt that did she actually saw darius was not confirmed by then even. And she didnt want to spoil the happy mood, thus dint told. that was fine , bamini aksed her & she was about 2 tell but was blackmailed by ambiraj. Exactly, she did tried. In baby shower event when she started acting that she is against bamini , then also bamini trusted her till last moment he was in hope that anusuya will speak up but anusuya choose 2 be mum ,Because according to her ambiraj army was big there and if she had spoken a word, they would have killed bamni. She was not aware that ambiraj made a plan to get bamini killed through her. ambhiraj played his game resulting bamini almost death but bamini was actually saved by his brother shivdutt & soldiers not anusuya who was in state of shock coz of her blind trust on herself & her brother , See what just happened with her was a really big thing...that was a big dhoka. She was the reason...and her husband was dying in front of her. Usse yakeen hi nahi ho raha tha...koi apne bhai se itne bade dhoke ki umeed nahi karta...toh that was normal i believe. She broke relation with her brother after that, says a lot. And as soon as, she gained her senses back...she fought back and saved bamni and rest of pourav rashtra fauz.

if u rewatched d scene bamini's army which was standing outside d castle of takshila broke in , shivdutt , ripudaman, samar singh & some of d soldiers were successfully guarding bamini took him to d main exit door without help of anusuya , Ya ..but ambiraj could have still attacked bamni if anusya hadnt stopped him. Pourav army was smaller than ambiraj one there. ambiraj's army was not ableto harm bamini but d end when ambhiraj pointed arrow on bamini , then anusuya stopped ambiraj. Can she don't do this in d beginning ?? She went through a shock and went mumb for a time being. Jis tarah ka dhoka hua tha uske saath...that was very normal i believe. when bamini was asking her in d event that why she is doing it , she was busy doing acting god knows who was she saving, if she would had told everything 2 bamini in d event infront of ambiraj , bamini would had saved her, he was better warrior than ambhiraj, even pourav rashtra army & soldiers were better than takshila but she choose to keep mum Pourav rashtra army was less there...and she must be scared for bamni life. And even if she had told, a war would have been there...and she was against wars. She dint let a war happen when bamni insulted her in such a disgusting way even. She could have easily accepted darius offer and attacked pourav rashtra that time. But no she did not do that, she thought if this insult can make everything normal...as she might have thought that bamni will consider it as punishment and will not leave her for this. And he was doing that only...the problem was she never knew the knife had zehar...that ambiraj plan is to kill bamni. after that whatever happened shivdutt & anusuya both r culprits not bamini. puru should not hate his father 4 his mother's condition. happy thta puru & bamini's thinking match. Anusuya was more of a victim of ambiraj plan than being a culprit. Puru is anyway not hating bamni for anusuya condition, he dislikes bamni for the way he is treating pourav rashtra. And puru and bamni thinking do not match at all...puru is alert person while bamni doesnt even know about things happening in his rashtra. He joined hands with farsis which was a wrong decision and that was a wrong decision for puru too. Puru dislikes farsi people like anusuya...and the bharat ka maaan badhaoonga and all comes from anusuya. Bamni never thinks about bharat...his whole mind is just on pourav rashtra only. Puru is also blessed with a big heart like her mother and is also a doordarshi like her, and can take pain for other people's happiness. Though he have qualities of his father too...like puru koi kaam adhoora nahi chodta. He is just like bamni in taking challenges. Bahudar and nidar in fights like him. Puru possess a mixture of his parent qualities i believe. He got the best of both worlds.

My replies in blue.

I would say one thing there are three victims in this whole story bamni anusuya n puru bamni n anusuya made the mistake of trusting their own Bros who used their trust for their own benefits but did they deserve such suffering for 20 yrs. No bamni one sin was a making anusuya a slave n he repented it anusuya forgave it. Both are victims puru is entirely faultless he has reasons to dislike bamni like his cruelty to dasyus chintan. He doesn't know his own people suffering becoz of shivdutt. His mother being a slave but he will get over his dislike.every one makes mistake be it bamni anusuya or puru it makes them human but all of them are victims as their mistake s are used by enemies

As a neutral viewer I found anusuya totally wrong, we say Na there is a thin line b/w Mahanta & dumbness in my view anusuya is dumb not mahan, living her whole life she dont know nature of her brother forget others we live with our family & siblings definately we know their way thinkings, even bamini know shivdutt thought process. Bamini had no reason to not trust shivdutt , after bamini accepted anusuya back shivdutt dint do anything to anusuya in presence of bamini , anusuya in her dumbness act even cursed her womb calling it paap, till last moment bamini was in hope but his hope fail, proving shivdutt right, as he told bamini earlier something cooking b/w anusuya &ambiraj, after hearing all rubbish things from anusuya still u say bamini not 2 believe his brother who protected & saved him, he asked 4 ripudaman but shivdutt misguided him of his death & that chapter was closed for that time, rripudaman took his family with him from whom bamini will ask about his son well that things were not shown

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

As a neutral viewer Sorry, i dont buy this atleast. A neutral member doesnt needs to say he/she is neutral..its visible in his/her comments...and i dont find any neutral point of view in your comments...You made a topic on some imaginary article which was never published and your whole post is trying to put anusuya down instead of actually putting bamni and puru relation...you are ready to ignore all mistakes of bamni as a character...with a claim that oh he will rectify...what he will rectify?...can he now bring back people of those families who are already sold to farsis as slaves...his joining hands with farsi was a really wrong decision...he has places in his rashtra whose gates have in written "no indian allowed"...and he is a good king...wow...can he rectify that he hasnt given good parvarish to his own son...ripudaman gave a better parvarish ..he has been ignorant of a lot of things...and yes he cannot rectify the misery his people faced under farsi rule for last 20 years...he just cant...nobody can...and neither he can rectify what he did to anusuya...even after doing her gulami for life, he cant rectify that. That was hideous crime and a really disgusting soach in my point of view.But with that, he has positives too...and if i am counting here what wrong he has done, doesnt mean i am not aware about the right'he has done. But all you see in anusuya is faults only and you call yourself a neutral member. I have neutral people around and they sympathize with her rather than transferring the blame for everything on her. I dont say that anusuya wasnt wrong at all in all what happened...but this is a fact she didnt saw this coming. .I found anusuya totally wrong, we say Na there is a thin line b/w Mahanta & dumbness in my view anusuya is dumb not mahan, Please decide first, mahaan or dumb.....living her whole life she dont know nature of her brother forget others we live with our family & siblings definately we know their way thinkings, Oh really...people get manipulated...ambiraj wasnt forever bad...he loved his chutki...he was manipulated by darius at that time and any brother...i repeat any brother will be filled with immense anger after knowing what bamni had put anusuya through... and he did realized what he did was wrong when anusya broke relation with him. He felt bad when anusuya showed him the mirror and did let the army go.even bamini know shivdutt thought process.If he knew ...then why did he trust him...if he knew shvdutt will harm anusuya in his absence...then why did he blindly trust him...truth is he dont know...he dont know that his brother wanted to kill his child...he dint knew his brother can give him such a big dhoka...we trust our siblings simply because they are our siblings...and both anusuya and bamni have committed this same mistake... Bamini had no reason to not trust shivdutt ,He had...i repeat anusuya saying do you trust me before going out...and his strong belief that she cant do it...why dint he asked himself if she gave him that easily then...why will she do all this today...why will she herself die to kill his child...woh bache ko phekti na bas...he though nothing...because he was hurt...uski duniya hil gayi thi...and thats kind of normal in the situation he was in...nobody is perfect...things happen according to circumstances/situations and thus i will not play a blame game here.....after bamini accepted anusuya back shivdutt dint do anything to anusuya in presence of bamini , anusuya in her dumbness act even cursed her womb calling it paap, That was acting done to protect the same son till last moment bamini was in hope but his hope fail, proving shivdutt right, as he told bamini earlier something cooking b/w anusuya &ambiraj, after hearing all rubbish things from anusuya still u say bamini not 2 believe his brother who protected & saved him, he asked 4 ripudaman but shivdutt misguided him of his death & that chapter was closed for that time, rripudaman took his family with him from whom bamini will ask about his son well that things were not shown. But bamni ne family ke baarein mein kabhi nahi soacha...shivdutt told him ki uska antim sanskar karne ja raha hain...but bamni dint accompanied him...why was it a closed chapter?...if bamni can get the credit of ripudaman courage, then why he should not get the credit of giving a blind eye to the death of his trustworthy senapati. He was the king and he doesnt even know where the whole family went...if ripudaman was killed in takshilla, then family toh honi chahiye thi na pourav rashtra mein. Again i am mentioning this counterattack your point, his world was lost and he was not in a situation to think all this and i can understand that very well.

When bamini &anusuya entered takshila shivdutt assured bamini that our army is standing outside , that army broke in , thats why i said rewatch d scene, without anusuya's help ripudaman, shivdutt , samarsingh with few soldi rs protected bamini , takshila army was not able to touch injured bamini.

Takshilla army killed so many pourav rashtra people...they were less in number and thus decided to run from there. They were not on war mode...they saved their raja...that's true...but last nail was my anusuya...had ambiraj teer attacked bamni...he would have died ...so even anusuya had a role in saving him too...chahe aap is fact ko kitna hi ignore karo aur bolte raho ki anusuya ne nahi bachaya...she was shocked as a human in start...but she did tried to save her husband afterwards.

When did anusuya protected bamini from Darius , when did bamini said yes 2 Darius before takshila kand, in d starting he asked 4 anusuya's opinion, he never said yes 2 Darius before takshil kand , bamini was intelligent enough 4 it , after takshila kand his ego started ruling him coz he was punished 4 no reason.he felt betrayed & cheated wanted revenge.Jiii nahi...when bamni asked for forgiveness from anusuya...she was the one who asked him to get rid from darius...thats the first thing she demanded and bamni threw darius out of pourav rashtra because of her only...she was the doordarshi not bamni...even darius himself has mentioned zillion that she was the reason he wasnt able to take over pourav rashtra. You said he felt cheated...and wanted revenge...revenge from whom...anusuya was dead for him...his partnership has nothing to do with ambiraj...so he revenged his rajya people...what kind of justice is that. Because this partnership made life of people of his own rajya miserable in most senses.

Anusuya is insulting a king then she accept that war should not happen & his Kingdom should sit quietly kuch jyada dumbness nhi hogayi, Seee i have mention that jaan maan thing already..and i am not blind to see her mistakes...but she was punishing her husband for a misdeed he did to her...and husband was ready to take punishment too...bamni loved anusuya...woh punishment le bhi toh uski khushi ke liye raha thaa na...he would have forgiven herrr shayad...her only motive was ki fights na ho...bamni insulted takshilla by doing a ridiculous thing to her...and she was taking revenge by doing a less ridiculous thing to him than what he did to her as her brother wanted justice ...she thought this way things can be alright...though ya she was wrong here...because itna aasan nahi tha yeh sab...and thats why she was scared too...par woh bas aman hi chahthi thi...bamni ko kuch ho jayega...yeh usne kabhi sapne mein bhi nahi soacha tha....after her dumbness act war was almost certain.CVS r portraying anusuya wOman of 3 century i guess when woman considered husband equal 2 god.I dint get this particular line....why should she consider him god...in their relationship...she had the upper hand...she had forgiven him for a crime...why should he be treated as god.

Bamini did mistake or crime but he rectified it ,Seriously...can that crime actually be rectified? May be in your eyes, but not in mine....can anysuya rectify her dumb act ,Ya she did that if bamni did...at the moment only...by saving bamni finally from ambiraj...by putting a talwar at her brothers neck ...by breaking all relations with ambiraj... can she give back bamini puru's childhood, other golden memories, bamini really luved this dumb lady but i dont feel anysuya ever luved bamini. ..okay now i will not give explanation on how much they loved each other...i am a fan of the jodi.and i believe both loved each other...and she has not stolen puru childhood from bamni...its shivdutt who stole that from both bamni and anusuya....Very practically speaking anusuya dont deserve queenship after insulting d king so badly 4 no reason who can say she took her own revenge.Then bamni dont deserve to be called a king after committing such a hideous crime...doesnt deserve to be king when he doesnt even know how his people are being treated by farsi...when he gave fate of people in farsi's hand. Yes bamni dont deserve to be king. And if anusuya had the heart to forgive bamni...bamni too should have the heart to forgive her. And i know he will because unlike you, he will see how she was trapped.

Darius himself confess that not easy to take full control of bamini as he is not fully under Darius influence like shivdutt & kanishk , its hint that bamini did mistake but still he can rectify it,The harm is done...pourav rashtra is under farsis and his people are living miserable life from last 20 years just because of a wrong decision made by him...i dont see how can he rectify it.. if bamini was bad king his people &ripudaman would never respected him, when puru was saying bad 4 bamini ripudaman interrupted him . If bamini was stupid & dumb kingpourav rashtra would had been taken over by darius. Though its not completely taken over by farsi...it majorly is under them...and its all because of bamni ignorance...i remember how he let kanishk beat that person so badly for presenting an opinion...i am sure that must be justified in your eyes too...Ripudaman loyalty is not gifted by bamni to him...thats how he is as a person.

*** if anusuya dont bloodshed then i feel she will not like puru going in battle , Dekhte hain...she doesnt want bharatwaasi to fight aapas mein...i dont think she will have problems with her son fighting for bharat...as bharat ka rakshak...even in such a state...she keeps saying ki uska beta bade hokar farsi logo ko bhaga dega...

# i m a neutral viewer definately dont like anusuya's character after takshila kand coz acc 2 me she 2 culprit along with others, she got chance but she dint used it in her dumbness. I m free 2 share my POV 4 anusuya try 2 respect it as i respect other who called bamini a idiot or stupid king.When i have not respected your opinion...but if i see you saying things which i dont agree.with...i am too free to present my opinion...you are writing on an open forum dear...and here discussions are bound to happen...you cant expect that if you personally dislike a character...everyone will dislike the char...and moreover just because you dislike..you cant get away with writing anything about the char. If you feel like criticizing,..go ahead but even i am free to counter your points.

#peace.Ya ,,peace for sure...i dont have hard feelings...i am just presenting my opinion on the points you mentioned because i dont agree with your points.. 😊 And yes, please give me the article link this whole post was based on.

I happy with my pov 4 anusuya that she is dumb queen u can happy with ur POV, definately not asking u 2 chance ur point of view coz i can also see biasness 4 anusuya coz rati is playing. Maam anusuya herself said this all started coz ambiraj insulting shivdutt maybe there also bamini & shivdutt r wrong