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Posted: 7 years ago

#31

Aamong the three, it is Donal's acting that I find the weakest. I agree that personally I would prefer someone taller with Namik or someone shorter than Namik with Donal, but this is a drama and actors are selected on the basis of how much justice they can do to their assigned characters and I believe Namik to be perfect as Shiv just as I believe that no one could possibly do justice to Vyom like Vikram does. If in showing Donal and Namik as a couple due to their height difference, the director has made a blunder then it the responsibility lies solely with the team who selected the actors.

The concept is probably great but the script and direction are a mess and a huge letdown.

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athai

@athai

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Posted: 7 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: MrMrskatdarling
<font size="3">Prateek Sharma has proved he is inexperienced. Will anybody do Karwa Chauth with Ghost? Common sense point. Your Characterization of Shiv and Sharanya are worst.
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This Karwa chauth segment just for the sake of dramatization did not sit well with me. Shiv, whether he comes back to life later or not, is dead for now. So karwa chauth with a spirit is a little disturbing. And as of now, because Shiv is dead even if he had been her husband once upon a time, it is Vyom who is her husband so why show this scene which is twisted not just from religious perspective but quite disturbing on moral grounds as well.

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beagleboy

@beagleboy

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Posted: 7 years ago

#33

Totally irrelevant question - But since I saw this thread was active, does anyoen know where ic an watch the episode without pop ups killing my comp?

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EyeForBeauty

@EyeForBeauty

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Posted: 7 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: beagleboy
Totally irrelevant question - But since I saw this thread was active, does anyoen know where ic an watch the episode without pop ups killing my comp?

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Posted: 7 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: athai

ermmm...actually among the three, it is Donal's acting that I find the weakest. I agree that personally I would prefer someone taller with Namik or someone shorter than Namik with Donal, but this is a drama and actors are selected on the basis of how much justice they can do to their assigned characters and I believe Namik to be perfect as Shiv just as I believe that no one could possibly do justice to Vyom like Vikram does. If in showing Donal and Namik as a couple due to their height difference, the director has made a blunder then it the responsibility lies solely with the team who selected the actors. The actors should not be mocked or bashed for playing their characters to the best of their abilities.

The concept is probably great but the script and direction are a mess and a huge letdown.

Direction & Concept is not Good. Concept has to be corrected. Script and Direction is worst and on top of it, Both Prateeks proved they are brainless by keeping Namik Paul with Donal . Namik's built is different,he is tall. What did they romance? Wrong Pairing and Horrible Pairing.

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athai

@athai

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Posted: 7 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: MrMrskatdarling

<font color="#0000FF" size="3">Direction & Concept is not Good. Concept has to be corrected. Script and Direction is worst and on top of it, Both Prateeks proved they are brainless by keeping Namik Paul with Donal . Namik's built is different,he is tall. What did they romance? Wrong Pairing and Horrible Pairing. </font>

As I already said, the height difference between Namik and Donal caught my attention too

And I am confused,if you don't even like the concept,what are you even watching the drama for?As far as I am concerned, what I understood of the concept from the promos,I liked,started watching it and continued to find the concept interesting and therefore still watch it despite having lots of reservations against the script and some in terms of direction.

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beagleboy

@beagleboy

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Posted: 7 years ago

#37

Having watched the episode again, (and I'll watch it once more perhaps because I'm a bit slow on the uptake), I think you mean Namik blinking a few times at the start of the flashback? Yes, it did look odd. It probably did need to be reworked. From a technical point of view, I have always said he looked uncomfortable (not to be misunderstood as discomfort with his unclothed state - I think these TV/bollywood men are more then comfortable in their skin and enjpy flaunting it!), and possibly with the romantic bit too. To me, I think their emotional sequence as the ghost and the lover was so strong that this sudden flashback, though needed, was a diversion. I thought both of them did very well in the emotional, present, scene. I think because the flashback was rather short (for lack of time), the intensity and depth of the emotions portrayed in the 'present' ghost-sharanya scene was significantly more than the depth of their emotions in the romantic scene. The reason here is just short, concise flashbacks adjusted to fit into 20 min.

I also thought about his Shayiris being relevant to the present, as someone on this thread has suggested. That is the only way to explain his complete U Turn yesterday. He was without anger and bitterness towards Sharanya. Yes, there was an underlying rage and need for revenge but that was over powered by the love that I think he felt at that moment- having triggered her memory, something he has wanted to do. But he was not the ghost that talked about betrayal. If we go back to one of his poetries, he says he would rather die than see her in anothers arms. This was after the ridiculous Suhaag raat episode, it was then that I thought that perhaps his lines at the end of each episode were pertinent to that episode. If there was betrayal, he wouldnt hold on to her while she was in a coma. It makes me think that he would want her to live. I also dont think there is any betrayal going by the flashbacks. She seemed quite sincere. So I'd be interested to see how they make the story different.

In my view, and I could be wrong, I think Vyom is the stalker/murderer. Kind of a Dr Jekell and Mr Hyde. If thats the case, then would are the Jekell and Hyde in him acquainted with each other? The person who stabbed Shiv, his neck does look like Vyom. It is definately a young man. There are many who say it could be Vidyut ...perhaps, but would someone else get such a plum role? That would completely sideline Vikram as an actor.

I agree that Sharanya insisted on the marriage, but she was wrongly guided and misinformed about a relationship that was crucial to her making that decision. And while every person is responsible for their own decisions, I cannot exonerate Vyom completely. It is something that was started by him long before Sharanya came out of her coma, and gleefully continued after she regained consciousness.

The only thing that puzzles me is the contraditions in Shiv's character where he is seen to harm Sharanya through Vyom and that is perhaps the only thing I cannot explain. But I think, we often over analyse these things and I doubt the creative team thinks about these things. Some scenes are brought in for impact, and look haphazard and we start to rumminate about this possibility and that.

Thanks for reading!

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#38

Vyom characterization is good, he is a true lover and husband and is her present husband. Sharanya with Vyom is very good be it characterization or action.

When Sharanya is with Vyom, it is Decent and Respectable because whatever she is doing, she is doing for her Husband. Their Height is also correct together. They are looking decent together.

I don't understand what is the use of keeping Shiv? Sharanya and Shiv sequence is not correct.

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Mandy

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Posted: 7 years ago

#39

Bang on post dear and agree with all your points. I hadn't watched this show for the past 5 weeks and tried catching up with all the episodes. The last episode I had seen was one where Sharanya proposes to Vyom. This show certainly had potential given the starcast. I have seen Vikram in EHT and JNDSD and he was fab in both and even though I never saw EDKV I have heard great things about Namik and am sure he is a talented actor as well.

The promos promised an intriguing storyline but ever since I started watching it, it has been an overdose of OTT acting and as for the plot, it is filled with loopholes.

Like you I could not ship Shiv Sharanya since there is no point in shipping them as the former is dead. She has no future whatsoever with a dead man and Vyom, even though he was the annoying perfect loverboy, Sharanya made it clear when she declared that even though her mind parted with her memories, her heart felt nothing for Vyom. Which meant he was never her love.

Then comes Rajan Bedi. He was first shown as an over impressive dad who would do anything for his son's love and now we have seen another side to him where he is more obsessive than his son to the point of torturing his own wife for a girl who is yet to accept his son's love 😕

Now our sadhviji. She doesn't know the name of Sharanya's boyfriend but she mentioned a crucial detail about him. He never believed in God till the time Sharanya came into his life and he used to be an aethist. If that is the case it is clear contradiction coz Shiv always thought of Ma Kali as his mother since his childhood. It is more likely he would have influenced Sharanya rather than the other way around. But then there is this mystery of sadhvi not having seen Vyom so far which tends to tilt in Shiv's favour again.

Now coming to Vyom being possessed. I got to know that many in the forum were speculating that Vyom was pretending to be possessed. Good point but doesn't sound logical even if we were to consider that Vyom is the potential villain in this story. He waited so long for Sharanya to first come out of coma and later he was willing to wait all his life for him to accept her. He never forced his love on her other than insisting to be around her all times. And comes the golden moment when Sharanya herself proposed to him. He has it all now and why will he act in a way that will jeopardize everything? Sharanya herself wanted to legitimize their relation and if he waited this long, a few more months wouldn't hurt. And what normal person can throw people in the air, float over a well and in air and hold people by their necks? Vyom is no body builder and even if he were, there is no way you can lift a person like they weigh nothing by their neck, even someone as light weight as Sharanya. How can he magically change the appearance of eyes? Its not just the irises, but his eyes were black pool.

Then comes Rameshwar. Lets say Rajan or Vyom killed Ram but what about the time when Shiv made that pole crash on Ram when he was leaving his old home with the idol? If Shiv was innocent then Ram probably found evidence for Rajan or Vyom's guilt which was in Shiv's favour. Then why did Shiv try to harm Ram?

Now coming to my last point - the mystery man Shiv himself. This guy claims to have loved Sharanya. Then how could he even try to harm Sharanya by possessing Vyom? It could have been to separate Vyom from Sharanya on the pretext of protecting her but still how could he in his wildest dreams make another person molest her? Then he tried to harm Sharanya on numerous occasions. Then we have a flashback when Vyom is writhing in pain with a stab wound and someone holding a knife which we can assume is Shiv. Plus if Sharanya and Shiv were indeed in a relationship, then what about that conversation he had with Madhvi? Never for once did he mention about Sharanya loving him. All he said were that she belonged to him and every breath of hers belonged to him. Isn't this obsession? If Sharanya loved him, then he would have told her that Sharanya has chosen him and Vyom's love is one sided and that he should stay away because Sharanya doesn't love Vyom. But no such thing was mentioned. So far we know one version of truth - Shiv's.

The only person who knows what really happened is Madhvi. If Vyom was indeed the bad guy why would she retain his evidence of guilt? (knife and that cloth) For all we know she wants to expose Rajan n never harm her son.

This all just seems crazy, convoluted to me. I guess I might quit this show after few episodes.

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