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Posted: 7 years ago
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This show is a big disappointment and let down, Reason-Writing! The character suffers between multiple personality disorder, swaying between everything, but consistency. This show has no originality and no story of its own. 80% looks inspired form the female oriented shows and 20% from supernatural.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: A4Anjie

Only point I thought of : if Shiv possessed Vyom and did all that to Sharanya - to help ...to get her memeory back.

May be... all that happened with sharnya ...Vyom did that...(in his split personality attack / obsessiveness / other mental problem ) before her memory loss.

Shiv was doing all those re-plays to keep her away from Vyom - to show his real face to her.



But why would Vyom's split personality come to the fore when he is finally getting what he always wanted and never had: Sharanya's companionship,her voluntary commitment to him through marriage?When she rejected him, he never resorted to violence with her, so the split personality angle is not at all convincing i think.And also, split personality cannot give you so much physical strength that you can lift someone by holding their neck (which he did while throwing Sharanya in the water tank). And is bringing Sharanya's memory back so important for Shiv that he is willing to let her be raped and assaulted and even killed? It is not acceptable for Shiv to stand by and watch Sharanya get molested in the hope that her memory returns or she becomes wiser to Vyom's evil mechanisms. So what happened with Sharanya during Vyom's possession drama is not something from which I can find justification for Shiv's behaviour no way from which perspective I look at it. And neither can I forget his attempt to make her commit suicide from the roof of the hospital or throw a tree on her to cause her physical injury. And this guy has since protected her from harm's way. So confusing man!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Supermagical

This show is a big disappointment and let down, Reason-Writing! The character suffers between multiple personality disorder, swaying between everything, but consistency. This show has no originality and no story of its own. 80% looks inspired form the female oriented shows and 20% from supernatural.



hahaha...thank you!...multiple personality disorder was the term I was looking for...like what the hell!from being a modern girl who told Vyom that she did not remember their relationship and therefore didn't care to have him fuss over her,Sharanya turned Sati-Savitri willing to sacrifice her life for a man whom she apparently has no feelings for!

Vyom seems to be accomodating one minute and insistent,annoying and clingy the other.

And Shiv, the ghost, doesn't even know what he wants...does he want his beloved to die and go to him because of which he attempted to get her killed at least once? does he want to protect her from harm's way as we have witnessed him coming to her rescue multiple times?does he want to scare her? does he want her to know the truth? he lets her marry Vyom, let's her be emotionally close to him but only takes offense with their physical proximity...such a chauvenistic attitude where only physical intimacy is used as an indicator of a woman's chastity...is it alright for him if she falls in love with Vyom as long as they do not share any form of physical intimacy?
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Posted: 7 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: LiveLifeHonest

As a neutral viewer, this totally encapsulates my POV about this show!👏Moreover, I am put off by the bad acting and poor voice modulation of the female lead. She's not a total newbie to acting so she should be doing better. Haasil and EDT were both launched with great pomp and raised many expectations, but both have neither lived up to their expectations nor shown any promise of being unique shows. It's quite sad to see what were supposed to be pathbreaking shows being reduced to below average fanfare due to a terrible script and characterisations.😕



Especially given the amazing acting skills of the two male leads of EDT, I expected so much more...potential gone down the drain...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Absolutely correct!
Your all points are valid!
Even We all agree to it
It is not an unknown fact that characters of leads are hazy though I love shiv but I want some clarification on possession drama point[/QUOTE

I can't bring myself to feel anything for any of the characters unfortunately. Liars and manipulators are grey characters and I love characters with layers, but attempted murderers and rapists are not grey: they are negative.period. when would the indian CVs understand this basic difference. Shiv was grey when I thought he wanted Sharanya to die to join him in the hereafter in the initial episodes and man,was I blown away! It would be so amazing to see a love where the only aim is to want the person to be with me,be it in life or death. But then Shiv started becoming the saviour and a bit of my fascination left but okay, I thought, maybe he wants her to avenge his death. Alas, instead of once or twice sending her message to go to Kapali Hills,Shiv did nothing to try and bring the poor girl up to date on her life..he only turned up to harm Vyom when Vyom came close to Sharanya: why he didn't just put Vyom in comma or something during the two years while Sharanya was in comma I know not...

And Vyom, the potential for this character to be grey!...it could have been Maya of Beyhadh or an out and out lovable white character to loves the girl to death but instead no one knows what he has become..


All in all, the Vyom possession drama kind of ruined the show for me...molestation is not acceptable for any reason and neither the one who does nor the one who stands by and watches it can be acquitted in my opinion...
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Posted: 7 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: jhalak7

True !
As I am also a non Shiv nor Vyom fan. So whatever I understood is just what you told.
And right about Sharanya. Why didn't she go back to her college. Everything started from there! Her college friends could tell her about at least Vyom. Keya rishta tha?
CVs just ignored the heart of a woman. Do dewana/stalker/criminal/bhoot/pati keya keya tha who cares?
A girl lost her memory! She needs to get that back first.
Baas patni/premi bana ke Mataji ki sharan mein bhej diah! Now kabhi Vyom kabhi Shiv toh kabhi that Sadhvi/Odhni just misleading her .
More than knowing these 2idiots---------Vyom and Shiv she needs to know herself first!
You can clone Einstein but that doesn't mean he will be a scientist---------he can be anything. Sharanya may find her memory...that doesn't mean she will once again fall in love with the previous man( whoever it was)...Good point! As a neutral viewer I too agree. 👏



If I were to write the story, I would explore how Sharanya,seeing Vyom's goodness fell for him..and then her memory comes back and she realizes not only that she had loved Shiv but also that Vyom used to stalk her and had an indirect role to play in Shiv's death (his father killed Shiv or whatever which he doesn't know about)...now Sharanya knows she loved Shiv but she can't feel the love because she got her memories back but obviously her glands are not releasing the hormones that it does when you are in love for Shiv anymore because memory has nothing to do with hormones. Her heart now skips a beat for Vyom but although he wasn't involved directly in Shiv's death but he was the reason Shiv was killed, out of loyalty towards Shiv and his memories, what would Sharanya do? Leave Vyom? But she now loved him, so what would be the right decision for her. Oh,what an amazingly twisted story it would be about the complexity of human mind and emotions! But instead, we are not dealing with delusional characters who don't even know what they want...actually it is Vyom who knows what he wants: Sharanya. The other two have no idea whether they want each other dead or alive,in sickness or in health, in memory or in experience...sigh!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: athai



If I were to write the story, I would explore how Sharanya,seeing Vyom's goodness fell for him..and then her memory comes back and she realizes not only that she had loved Shiv but also that Vyom used to stalk her and had an indirect role to play in Shiv's death (his father killed Shiv or whatever which he doesn't know about)...now Sharanya knows she loved Shiv but she can't feel the love because she got her memories back but obviously her glands are not releasing the hormones that it does when you are in love for Shiv anymore because memory has nothing to do with hormones. Her heart now skips a beat for Vyom but although he wasn't involved directly in Shiv's death but he was the reason Shiv was killed, out of loyalty towards Shiv and his memories, what would Sharanya do? Leave Vyom? But she now loved him, so what would be the right decision for her. Oh,what an amazingly twisted story it would be about the complexity of human mind and emotions! But instead, we are not dealing with delusional characters who don't even know what they want...actually it is Vyom who knows what he wants: Sharanya. The other two have no idea whether they want each other dead or alive,in sickness or in health, in memory or in experience...sigh!


beautifully written⭐️
claps for that⭐️
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Posted: 7 years ago
#18
Just a thought what if vyom is not real stalker and in fact saving someone else , remember madhavi saying she spoiled two lives what if there there is another kid in bedi family who was stalker and had hand in killing shiv and vyom is simply trying to save him through half story he was fed.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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i personally feel they were checking that which couple gets better response from audience n dey diverted the story towards that
n i think even shiv wont noe that who killed me as we saw sumone has hit him on his back,so he myt not have seen d face...don noe how d story ll proceed but for now i m enjoying d thng dt namik has finally got some dialogues😳had started watching d show 4 him only but even i m a bit disappointed wd d show
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: athai

Well,I am mostly a silent member of the forum but the way the story (or the lack of it) is shaping up,I couldn't refrain myself from taking out my frustration.

I am not a fan of any of the actors or characters of the show.I have,however,watched the previous drama of both the actors,enjoyed their acting thoroughly and started watching the show because of the thrilling tone of the promos and the assurance that the two actors were brilliant at their work. However, I never really shipped either couples because from the promos it looked like Vyom and Sharanya were a couple whose happiness was overshadowed by a bereaved 'deewana'. I did not ship Sharanya and Shiv because shipping a ghost and human did not make sense for me: she may or may not have loved the person in the past, may have been or not have been in a relationship with this man, but the fact was that he is no longer alive, so they can't possibly be together. For all we know, she was the reason for his death, directly or indirectly and therefore, rooting for them didn't make much sense to me. I am not a Vyom or Sharanya shipper because for all we know, Vyom could be the villain. What I wanted was Sharanya's story: a girl who, after waking up with partial amnesia, found herself, discovered her past, found ways to let go of it (finding a way to help Shiv find peace, being with Vyom or choosing to not be with him because she had no feelings for him irrespective of what she had felt in the past) and walked forward in her life (I don't buy the theory that getting back memory and getting back feelings is the same thing: even if Sharanya remembered her time with Shiv and Vyom, it is not necessary that she can feel love for either of them. She may get her memory back but not her feelings.)However, what I feel I have been given is no one's story, no story at all. A girl, who lost her memory, is not struggling to remember,to get back her memory by contacting people in her facebook, or asking Vyom to get her in touch with her friends and teachers, showing no interest to visit her college and the area in which she must have spent significant amount of time during her college days etc. No effort, absolutely no effort has been made by this girl to get her memories back.

The boy who madly loves the girl, Vyom, seems obsessive at times and accomodating at times: there is no consistency in his character. He has been shown to be okay with her friendship, he cannot be blamed even once for putting her in a position where she had to legitimize their relationship by giving it a socially accepted identity, on the contrary, his attempted molestation on her,if anything, should have discouraged her to get married to him. So the argument that he wasn't really possessed and did this intentionally doesn't make sense as Sharanya already thought the spirit was evil so he didn't have to make the spirit seem evil to Sharanya and there can be no logic behind his actions.

So what was the attempted rape all about? Shiv possessing Vyom? Shiv who was seen to want Sharanya to jump from the hospital roof and kill herself, had almost killed her with a falling tree while she was cycling, had attempted to rape her and thrown her in water tank (if he had possessed Vyom), had not come to her rescue when she was being molested by Vyom or thrown in water tank (of he had not possesed Vyom) is the deewana who loves her even after death and cannot even see a small cut on her face from a glass splinter? Shiv tries to protect her, kill her, scare her, help ber get her memory back, what is it that he wants?

From where I see it, none of the leads are well-etched characters. The CVs have no idea what they want to show and if they are asked to talk about the personality of either of the characters, they won't be able to do so because there is absolutely no character sketch. None of their behaviour makes sense and I would absolutely hate to have someone like Vyom in my life who insisted on being a part of it despite by constant rejection when I couldn't even remember him. This guy would make me feel suffocated and annoyed all the time. If my memory came back and I realised I was in love with Shiv once, I would hate myself for loving someone who thought he had a right to assault me (if he had possessed Vyom) although he didn't let others do the same or he didn't come to my rescue when I was being assaulted by my fiance probably because he wanted me to break off my engagement (if he had not possessed Vyom, he was definitely nearby), that is just sick.

Shiv and Sharanya were obviously never meant to be together, he was a ghost after all. But what Sharanya meant to Shiv and what he had meant to her once and how her presence in his life had brought about his untimely death was the crux of the story against which Sharanya and Vyom's present and future (whether Sharanya finds it in her to love Vyom, whether Vyom was somehow instrumental in Shiv's death, whether they ended up together or went their separate ways) would be developed. But it seems that there is no story,not at all.

Sorry for all the ranting. Watching a story that could have been so good being wasted is frustrating and what is more frustrating is that I have wasted my time on something this pointless. The CVs have made the story into Shiv-Sharanya camp and Vyom-Sharanya camp to keep audience at hand whereas there could be no camps if the story was properly executed:people would respect Sharanya's past and her present decisions if only they could relate to her and her two deewana's characters.


OMG, how did I miss your post?! Terrible show. Terrible characterisation. Terrible screenplay. Badly written and nonsensical scenarios. Let's start with the possession track shall we? I just skipped the entire thing. It was over the top crap that just.did.not.make.sense. I mean throwing women and men about and body parts twisting in weird ways? Cut the crap, I say. And I refuse to give anyone that degree of creative license. And you know what, it is one of those things that may be conveniently forgotten because it is also something that possibly cannot be explained.

Let's come to Vyom - I have ranted about this repeatedly and I will say it again- I would run a mile from a wingey, clingy, desperate man like Vyom. The character and his obsessive nature is a put off. Always begging for attention. How anyone can misunderstand this behaviour as romantic or consider them a couple is beyond me - oh! wait! the CV's threw in some 'locking of the eyes' accompanied by the wind blowing and some romantic music to confuse the viewers. And there you go again-there is no plan that they stick to, no continuity in either the characterisation or story. A story that confuses its audience about the very plot and what it is about is a bad story. No one is sure about any character because all characters are eratic. This story has never been about Vyom and Sharanya's love story to me. To me, Sharanya looked unresponsive and cold to Vyom even in the initial promos. I dont think I started this serial expecting to see a love story between them, and it is not for them that I continue to follow it eihter (I stopped watching a long time ago - there was no way I would put myself through any of this molestation, possession, marriage of convenience, fake sex or superstition crap'.

I started this story and I follow it because, like you,though I am a fan of neither men or the lady actor either, I was intrigued by the story of the Deewana, the ghost. Positive or negative, I wanted to know more about his purpose. I actually never really thought he drove her to the terrace in the first couple of episodes and to have her die was not his aim, even though it is made to look that way. I dont think he had that kind of power as a ghost to drive her to take her life. And I dont think he had that much power as a ghost to save her everytime. From what I read, he saved her from the water tank. But I shant talk about the possession bit, because I just do not comprehend the entire sequence or the idea.


If it was meant to be a Shiv and Sharanya story from the start, and I think it is because they have hinted at that from the start, they should have handled it better. I dont think she should die to be with him and neither should she be with Vyom for lack of her old love. I think a woman can manage pretty well on her own. For her to now develop feelings for Vyom would be odd at best given her repeated declarations that she is unable to love him. But Vyom and Shiv are not the only men in this world... But if it is indeed a Shiv and Sharanya story, then given the supernatural genre of the serial, I like it better because it is at the end of the day a romantic thriller. I am neither lending my support to the SS couple or the VS couple. I just find the love story between the ghost and a human sweet and I dont expect a happy ending - not all stories need to have a happy ending!

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