Why so much distortion & Baahubali inspiration!!!!

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Anjali

@arshi_asya

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

Disclaimer:- This is a opinion based post with no bashing what-so-ever. Please don't proceed if constructive criticism can't be dealt with. Any views are welcome but I expect no bashing here. There are certain things I can't ignore no matter what I do.

Before going to the heading, I would highlight the praise-worthy factors of the show, which are-

1. The background music score- It's absolute delight to listen to that be it Anusuya's track, Puru-Lachi track or Alexander's tract. Alexander's track reminds me of the Van Helsing movie track which has some similar beats. The music is not only soothing but always a pleasure to ears.

2. Cinematography- No doubt about the Dasyu land scenes. They are indeed beautiful. Puru-Lachi chemistry is cute & innocent too.

Now coming to the parts which have hugely disappointed me.

1. Distortion of Alexander-Olympia portrayal- I hate Olympia mentioning India again & again. Olympia was undoubtedly ambitious but she wanted Alexander as next king. She was not mad about Alexander capturing India. Alexander did begin his innings with Persia but then he discovered India much later to conquer. Besides the dialogue "Mukaddar Ka Sikanadar"- seriously. Why do makers have to take the audience for fool.

2. Cold Portrayal of Alexander- I can't imagine this Alexander ever asking a king about how he should be treated after defeating a king. He was the conqueror, ambitious but not this cruel to have tortured a king in this way. Makers shouldn't even spoil the basic character trait of Alexander which has too many authentic accounts. Alexander was never a narcissist in nature as shown here.

3. Too much focus on fictionalized story of Puru & completely missing Alexander for episodes- If Alexander is another central character of this show, then why has he been missed. They completely ruled out his story for most of the episodes. They are so hell bent on showing the Indian hero that they forgot the main hero because of whom this Indian hero got recognition in the Indian & world history in the first place. I hope they don't show Puru actually defeating Alexander because I want to go with facts even if they are one-sided from Greek accounts. Those accounts don't dis-respect Puru at all rather praise him for his valor in the Battle of Hydaspes in fighting Alexander.

4. Rati's portrayal as Devasena- Now I won't compare the exact storyline but the entire Puru birth & Anusuya being captured & wretched, Puru growing up with tribals, Kanishka mis-treating Anusuya, Puru coming to Anusuya's rescue is copy-cat baahubali. Why Indian history soap makers are so obsessed with showing televised version of Baahubali in every story ever since that movie has released. Chandra-nandini showed exactly the same thing. Do they not understand the difference between fictional characters & real characters having completely fictional accounts. Or is it they only care for making a show anyhow with anything from here & there.

Although I am happy that Rati is back. Her falling from the mountains made me sad & I couldn't believe that Anusuya would die that soon.

From the Anusuya's portrayal in precap where Kanishka comes to take Anusuya, I seems that Bamni already knows about Anusuya being alive & wretched but he hates her so much & doesn't give a damn to the fact she lives or dies. Otherwise how would a prince be after a lady prisoner for no obvious reasons. But Rati was phenomenal in the precap indeed.

Distortion with history of real life characters is a very dangerous thing for a civilization & culture especially on the name of history which is seen as a something that defines our present. With the way show is progressing, I can clearly see that makers are going to do a hell lot of distortion to all the central characters.

Why is difficult to stick to the history. Make less episodes but make them with approximate accuracy. It's no Baahubali or Game of Thrones where the entire setup is fictional but is inspired from multiple historical accounts. These are real-life characters who one walked & breathed on this earth & were significant in changing the pace of many things. Historical-mythological shows are actually getting much worse day-by-day. Surreal cinematography, good costumes & awesome background scores won't make up for poor & distorted portrayal of legendary personalities of the ancient world. The makers did it with Razia Sultan, Shani & now this.

That's it from my side. Any views are more than welcome.

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Posted: 8 years ago

I will try to answer your queries.

1.About Olympias wanting Alexander to conquer Bharat then I agree it's inaccurate to an extent but this is not the first time that Akhand Bharat has been a recurring topic in historical dramas.Starting from Imagine's Chandragupta Maurya to Maharana Pratap to Chakravartin Ashoka Samrat, this has been a recurring topic.Some foreign enemy is eyeing Bharat while the respective protagonists gear up to save it.Therefore I was not surprised to see that they altered Olympias' ambition from making her son a king to making him the ruler of Bharat.

2.I don't think Alexander was cruel or narcissistic.The king in that episode had attached Macedonia in Philip's absence and had broken the rules of war due to which Alexander didn't consider him worthy of respect.His punishment to the king was not his cruelty but his way of proving a point.Infact he gave the choice to the people of Macedonia to decide that king's fate.Also the Alexander who will ask a king how he should be treated is someone who is seasoned with war and kingship.Alexander at this moment is still learning and this is as much his journey as that of Porus.He still has a long way to go before becoming Alexander The Great.

3.When did Alexander get sidelined for Porus?He made his entry day before yesterday and since then both he and Puru have equal screenspace.Before the leap Macedonia was not shown coz they wanted to set the stage for Porus' birth.After the leap it took 2-3 episodes to establish him as the titular character.But after Alexander's entry both have got equal prominence.
This is a story based on Porus where it's natural that the initial episodes will be based on him.But this is also the first show which has promoted Alexander as a lead along with Porus.Both had equal importance in the promos.Both even share the montage together.Till now both of them are equally prominent and I hope it continues.

4.About the Bahubali parallel well I see no similarity apart from the hidden prince with the secret identity.Devsena was captured by Bhallaldeva.Anusuya was thrown from the cliff by Shivdutt and presumed dead after which she became mentally unstable.Even if Shivdutt found her why would he leave her alive when he himself lied to Bamni on his face that Anusuya died?And Bamni all his flaws aside has a soft corner for Anusuya.He is no Bhallaldeva who will keep Anusuya alive to torture her.Even Shivdutt wanted her dead.In Bahubali,Mahendra was on a rescue mission for Devsena and seeing her getting attacked by Bhalla's son triggered his anger.Here Puru performs an act of kindness and humanity towards a stranger.How is that similar to Bahubali?It was never shown in the precap that Kanishk had come to capture Anusuya.He just entered the place and picked up a fight with Puru.It could have been very well for some other reason.We need to watch the episode to find out about Anusuya's fate and what happened to her.So I don't think we should jump into conclusions before watching the episode first.

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Anjali

@arshi_asya

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

It's not important to compare almost every little detail about the Bamni-Puru-Anusuya story with Baahubali. As I said earlier, the exact story portrayal might not be the same. In the bigger picture it's not Baahubali but it is indeed Baahubali inspired.

Possible that Kanishka must have other reasons to pick up the fight & Bamni might not be aware of Anusuya's presence in his kingdom but Bamni is not the same king now. He has changed & grown much cold than before.

Besides the scene clearly shows people's reluctance on helping Anusuya. Either they think she is mad woman or the forgotten queen. Besides no one bothers to help her. As long as I remember ancient Indians weren't as cold as they are today in general.

But then it's a show and on the name of artistic & creative liberty, all is justified, especially when there is no historical account what-so-ever.

Also Alexander was a noted narcissist, it is a proven fact by many historians. So, no problem showing that, he was ramapant in his conquests too but then he wasn't disrespectful to kings after winning a war is also another point.

And for the another important character of the show, Alexander has been given less screen space than Puru. 10 episodes out of which only 1.5 episode screen space for Alexander. I want to see more of his side. Even in next week, Mecidonians will be less shown.

I have watched a lot of historical shows, both Indian and foreign. And I have a bad habit of checking the real facts of such shows. But the amount of liberty Indian makers take is a lot more than any other maker in the world. I understand that Indian shows run for long but & they need to fill in the void to complete no. of episodes because history is limited no matter what you do & it won't change now. So, why not come up with hourly episodes. That will give concrete portrayal with the amount of budget they have for this show.

With that, I rest my case.😊😊

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mehaksingh13

@mehaksingh13

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Posted: 8 years ago

whatever the story line it is gripping and grand in visuals. All the actors r excellent in their performance especially Laksh the tall handsome man with a deep matured voice @ 21 yrs and wonderful performance with eye &. Rati with her beautiful looks and performance r making the show attractive. Whether true or not the storyline but it is attracting viewers ans presentation direction and editing or good. The screenplay and dialogues background music r very good

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PD_forums

@PD_forums

Stunner

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Posted: 8 years ago

Frankly I did not see any similarities between porus and Bahubali ...

When saw porus birth promo thought it is Anasuya holding baby as shivagamni and jumped to the conclusion that they copied from Bahubali but I was wrong...

Porus team is showing their own story of porus, how much it is true and how much they added story is not known but till now the story is very gripping and i loved everyone's performance..

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FlauntPesimism

@FlauntPessimism

Viewbie

+ 10

Posted: 8 years ago

It's not about distortion.

Alexander always wanted to win over India partly because of Olympia and partly because of Aristotle who told him that India was a dreamland and that would be his last win to win the world.

That probably was the end of their life, they didn't know much about the land east of India

Yes this Muqaddar ka Sikandar was something way to dramatic but many would enjoy it

Coming to the result of the war, with many historians now discrediting the win of Alexander as some established fact I don't think any result which is shown would be technically wrong or distortion because with the removal of Alexander's win being from the "Fact list" there is no history actually about that. So when Western movie makers are not showing Alexander as the winner, I don't think if some Indian show shows Porus winning then it would be any wrong. In fact if no distortion is needed then they must not show the result of the war at all

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ThePirateKing

@ThePirateKing

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

Agree to some of the points. We need to accept that the makers and writers will exercise some of the creative liberty at their disposal.

Olympia wanted Alexander to be the king and rule and Alexander's main aim was to destroy the Persian empire which was Greece's main enemy.

Once the Persian's were destroyed Alexander simply went on his own glory conquest. For most of his men who accompanied him the purpose of their journey was over once the Persians were finished.

Alexander was pretty cold. The massacres in Asia Minor, Levent, Egypt, Persia, Bactria and North-west India are enough proof. And in the Indian campaign almost every battle ended in a massacre. The resentment due to these massacres was so high that Alexander was forced to go via the Makran desert back to Persia and not take the North-West India, Bactria and East Persian route, the route by which he had come into India. The people he had installed in these regions were simply unable to guarantee safety. His so called friend Puru did not even lift his little finger to help.

Technically Puru and Alexander pretty much had a draw. Puru was not a big king. He ruled an area even smaller than modern day Goa. The result of all this was it drove all the smaller kingdoms (who were still surviving) into the arms of Mauryan empire once they took control in the east.

Majority of the history that we read is written from the western point of view and not many are brave enough to write a contrarian point of view. Some in Greece have written but that has been dismissed because Alexander was Macedonian and not a mainland Greek (ex. from Athens and that area). In this case it is each one to his/her own.

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Why so much distortion & Baahubali inspiration!!!!

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