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Posted: 7 years ago
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What is Aryan/Shumham more angry for. The bigger reason for his anger.
1. Suvarna keeping him away from his family, their love, their concern.

2. Suvarna keeping him away from Goenka surname and luxurious life.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Honestly anybody would be mad if you grew up poor and worked as a servant in the house of the family you rightfully belong to and were born in. Though to give credit to aryan, along with that luxurious life he's missed out on, he also does want to reconnect with his family and his anger with suvarna is genuine as he felt wrongfully abandoned by his mom. Though this show is definitely leading towards making him a more villianous character which is something they could have easily avoided by just giving grey shades instead of an out and out villain.
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Originally posted by: springkissed

Honestly anybody would be mad if you grew up poor and worked as a servant in the house of the family you rightfully belong to and were born in. Though to give credit to aryan, along with that luxurious life he's missed out on, he also does want to reconnect with his family and his anger with suvarna is genuine as he felt wrongfully abandoned by his mom. Though this show is definitely leading towards making him a more villianous character which is something they could have easily avoided by just giving grey shades instead of an out and out villain.

I don't think he is an out and out villain, till now he isn't and I hope the route isn't taken, his anger towards Suvarna is justified and him planning and plotting against Karthik is because his own pain and anger is blinding him, but even that he was right in his own way, he is right to be hurt, what I didn't like was when he told himself Suvarna made him a criminal, whatever he did by his own will, Suvarna did wrong I know she had her reason which I do not fully support neither fully oppose, but Suvarna didn't make him plan against Karthik that was his choice. But other then that his anger towards Suvarna his annoyance at Kaira and Keesh for supporting Suvarna makes a lot of sense.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: janvi0513

I don't think he is an out and out villain, till now he isn't and I hope the route isn't taken, his anger towards Suvarna is justified and him planning and plotting against Karthik is because his own pain and anger is blinding him, but even that he was right in his own way, he is right to be hurt, what I didn't like was when he told himself Suvarna made him a criminal, whatever he did by his own will, Suvarna did wrong I know she had her reason which I do not fully support neither fully oppose, but Suvarna didn't make him plan against Karthik that was his choice. But other then that his anger towards Suvarna his annoyance at Kaira and Keesh for supporting Suvarna makes a lot of sense.


Agree with aryan's anger as well. I don't know about anybody else, but it annoys every single time naira, keerti or anybody keeps defending swarna by constantly saying she made a sacrifice. Like really? Who asked her for such a sacrifice that actually involved ruining the life of a boy, pronouncing a living human as dead in front of the world and the person's family, and even refusing to acknowledge she has another son? Nobody asked her for such a sacrifice, and every time the likes of kaira and keerti keep calling what swarna did as a sacrifice and trying to convince aryan that what his mother did to him was for everybody's good is just complete utter bakwaas.


Kaira, keerti and naksh only see swarna's self-pitying tears, and don't see how what she did to aryan was wrong and how it affected him. It's easy for them to see what swarna did to aryan as a sacrifice considering she did it for karthik and keerti, but if it was them in aryan's place that this had happened to then they wouldn't see it as a sacrifice, because even if swarna did it supposedly for everybody's good, where did aryan's good come into this? 🤢

I disliked how kaira and keesh are over-glorifying the injustice that she did to aryan in favour of only being able to see that she did it for their happiness so that they would get all their father's love.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Agree with aryan's anger as well. I don't know about anybody else, but it annoys every single time naira, keerti or anybody keeps defending swarna by constantly saying she made a sacrifice. Like really? Who asked her for such a sacrifice that actually involved ruining the life of a boy, pronouncing a living human as dead in front of the world and the person's family, and even refusing to acknowledge she has another son? Nobody asked her for such a sacrifice, and every time the likes of kaira and keerti keep calling what swarna did as a sacrifice and trying to convince aryan that what his mother did to him was for everybody's good is just complete utter bakwaas.


Kaira, keerti and naksh only see swarna's self-pitying tears, and don't see how what she did to aryan was wrong and how it affected him. It's easy for them to see what swarna did to aryan as a sacrifice considering she did it for karthik and keerti, but if it was them in aryan's place that this had happened to then they wouldn't see it as a sacrifice, because even if swarna did it supposedly for everybody's good, where did aryan's good come into this? 🤢

I disliked how kaira and keesh are over-glorifying the injustice that she did to aryan in favour of only being able to see that she did it for their happiness so that they would get all their father's love.

I don't think Kaira or keesh are over glorifying Suvarna. They see it that what she did was for them, especially Karthik, add his guilt to that, Naira and Kirti Suvarna had always been their mother, who has given them a mother's love so all them siding Suvarna strongly makes sense. Having said that I don't disagree with Manish or Aryaan being against Suvarna. I also understand Dadi's fears about people talking. The truth has been hidden from them Manish already one son he had misunderstanding and then he gets to know his wife hid about another son. A child getting to know his mother abandoned him both are huge blows.
Personally I don't think Suvarna did was a 100% right or wrong. But I find the behavior of everyone those who support and those who oppose her understandable. Though I do not support Aryan's behavior completely, like the way he was smiling as Suvarna was leaving. Even Karthik had misunderstandings, he believed Suvarna had n affair with his father, which was why is mother suicided, he also hated Suvarna, but I had never seen him trying to create problems between SuvarNish or being happy at their pain, but right now I think Aruan's wounds are fresh so he is behaving like that.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I don't think aryan is a villain , he is seeking attention from manish and everyone else , knowingly to make his presence felt ..Also to make others feel more and more guilty ..He wants justice for himself ..And he wants to see suvarna suffer for doing this to him..If I have read correctly ..Suvarna is 100% wrong but since kaira is supporting her , all her deeds will be whitewashed ..Very sad...N now she has lost all rights on aryan , she must save her Motherly love for kartik only
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

I don't think aryan is a villain , he is seeking attention from manish and everyone else , knowingly to make his presence felt ..Also to make others feel more and more guilty ..He wants justice for himself ..And he wants to see suvarna suffer for doing this to him..If I have read correctly ..Suvarna is 100% wrong but since kaira is supporting her , all her deeds will be whitewashed ..Very sad...N now she has lost all rights on aryan , she must save her Motherly love for kartik only


I agree with him trying to get attention for himself and trying to guilt everyone to get justice for himself. After watching today's episode, though I'm even more annoyed with the one sided aryan is wrong, suvarna is right narrative naira and kartik are running. How is he in the wrong for his anger? They seem to have absolutely no empathy for his situation! A better thing would be to actually try to include him in the family and try to introduce him in the world with a united front so he would feel included, but what they come with is a anniversary party which is going to be about suvarna and manish uniting. They have no right sense of the priority, if he feels included in the family through these activities, then he will naturally and slowly let go of his anger. Yet, what they are doing is giving him lecture about how wrong he is and how right suvarna is and alienating him further. It's baffling. I was expecting a better handling of this track, though I have no idea where it's going now. But so far, I definitely do not like it.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Naira lecturing Shubham about happiness of family and not being selfish was ridiculous. She was angry with her mother even when she was trying to find her, but Shubham is wrong if he is angry with his enstranged mother who left him for a ridiculous reason that she wanted to give her complete love and attention to her husband's children. What will he understand that his mother is a Devi, when she never met him or took care of him. Both kartik and naira were upset with their parents without any valid reason, but Shubham has a reason to hate his mother.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: raaya

Naira lecturing Shubham about happiness of family and not being selfish was ridiculous. She was angry with her mother even when she was trying to find her, but Shubham is wrong if he is angry with his enstranged mother who left him for a ridiculous reason that she wanted to give her complete love and attention to her husband's children. What will he understand that his mother is a Devi, when she never met him or took care of him. Both kartik and naira were upset with their parents without any valid reason, but Shubham has a reason to hate his mother.


Ditto..Naira telling him to stand quietly in the party and aryan trying to create a rift between manish and suvarna was abs ridiculous ..From where did it come from ? If he is angry it's justified ..And what did naira meant by " it's affecting my family"..Isn't aryan a part of this family now ? raghav mystry is being played out ..So manish suvarna aryan and this whole track will soon come to an end with hum sath sath hain family song ..Very poorly handled ..It had potential ..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: raaya

Naira lecturing Shubham about happiness of family and not being selfish was ridiculous. She was angry with her mother even when she was trying to find her, but Shubham is wrong if he is angry with his enstranged mother who left him for a ridiculous reason that she wanted to give her complete love and attention to her husband's children. What will he understand that his mother is a Devi, when she never met him or took care of him. Both kartik and naira were upset with their parents without any valid reason, but Shubham has a reason to hate his mother.



^This!

I felt Naira was very insensitive in that particular conversation with Shubham. Why is Shubham's anger being played out as "selfishness? If anyone has a right to be angry, it's him! He actually has a valid reason to detest Suwarna. Kartik and Naira have been estranged from their respective parents for reasons which were more a misunderstanding. The way Naira accused him of trying to break Manish and Suwarna! Like what?

If anyone broke Manish and Suwarna, it was Suwarna herself. Manish had done nothing but always loved and supported her and she made him think that he lost his child. That is just cruel and wicked. Yet Kaira and Keerti support Suwarna wholeheartedly.

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