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Posted: 8 years ago
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History would not bother with any woman from Bajirao's family if they had no substantial role to play in the family's fortune. Radhabai's contribution to the Peshwai's clout is well known to readers of Maratha history. However Kashi and Mastani became the centre of gossip in contemporary society only because of the controversy related to Bajirao's personal life.

When you have read enough about them it is hard to hero worship any of the star players in Maratha history. It also helps one understand that unsung heroes like Chimaji Appa achieved as much success as Bajirao but history did not give them their due.

I never suggested that Bajirao's role in Maratha history was limited to the drama over his relation with Kashi, Mastani and the rest of his family. But he was the only Peshwa whose personal life was taken to the cleaners when he fell out with his family over Mastani, that is recorded history and a major reason why his fame as a warrior was overshadowed. That is also why the focus of films like Bajirao-Mastani remained on his personal life rather than on his military laurels. The film became a commercial hit proving that people by and large don't care about meticulous details of battle campaigns.

Also Rau was never a hands-on father to any of his children as he was constantly away on campaigns; often with Mastani accompanying him. And I did not make up the story that he preferred Mastani over Kashi, there is enough proof in recorded history to prove that! Nevertheless people may choose to look upon him as a model husband, brother and son as much as a celebrated cavalry general! Everybody loves heroes and winners enough to ignore their grey areas.

Bajirao won many accolades with the help of his faithful band of subordinates like Holkar and Shinde who laid the foundation of the Maratha Confederacy during his lifetime.This was done to exercise better control over territories in Malwa and other parts of Central India to make it easy for Bajirao to administer them. Ironically while Bajirao remained in debt all his life the members of the Confederacy prospered due to the northward Maratha expansion. The expenses for the battles was the Peshwa's personal responsibility and a major source of frustration for him. At the time of his death Bajirao left a debt of 14.5 lakh rupees which had to be repaid by his successor Peshwa Balaji. Rau may have been a credible warrior but he had shortcomings as a statesman.

When Chimaji and Bajirao defeated the Portuguese and the Siddis in Konkan they indirectly helped the British become a force to reckon with. Bajirao had met Captain Inchbird before he went to battle Nasir Jung- his last battle campaign. Little wonder then that the British eventually took over the Maratha Empire.

The Maratha Empire rose to a peak during the reign of Bajirao's son Balaji. His other son Raghunath expanded the boundaries up to Attock. Balaji achieved more by sheer diplomacy and negotiation unlike Bajirao who had to use military means. The loss of Panipat dealt a huge blow to Maratha power but Peshwa Madhavrao managed to avenge that defeat within 10 years. Had he not died at an early age of 27 due to consumption Madhavrao's career would be more illustrious than that of his grandfather.

So yes, the Maratha Empire started to fragment after Madhavrao's premature death, mainly due to a leadership vacuum. His younger brother Narayanrao was assasinated at the age of 19 and was replaced after a few months by the 40 day old infant Sawai Madhavrao. The Barbhais led by Nana Fadnavis got an upper hand. This led to the decline of the Peshwas who had been hereditary rulers. It is important to remember that.
Edited by kahiliginger - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#22
Never suggested that Bajirao's flaws should be overlooked nor do I worship him. Forget personal life, anyone who is a war hero does not get there without a war and a war certainly means that every side commits human rights violations. History tends to gloss over the excesses of the winning side.

I have no problem with Bajirao being portrayed as a grey character. But shades in characters go both ways. For Bajirao and equally for the others in his life. Some of the viewpoints are overly biased based on imagined history about a personality about whom very little is known.

Yes, while the empire did reach its greatest extent during Baji's son's reign, it is also recorded history that it was due to satraps like Holkars and Scindias who became quite independent. The empire was more like a confederacy, any former, even if they were uneasy, alliances were shattered, and the empire suffered a crushing defeat at Panipat.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#23
No not at all 🤔but this CV's won't listen 😡
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Posted: 8 years ago
#24
The answers lie herein. Happy reading!!!


1. The Marathas 1600-1818, Vol 2 by Stewart Gordon, Cambridge University Press

https://archive.org/stream/iB_in/2-4_djvu.txt


2. New History Of The Marathas, Vol 2 by Govind S Sardesai

https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.57070/2015.57070.New-History-Of-The-Marathas-Vol-2#page/n11/mode/2up
Edited by kahiliginger - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#25
The movie portrayed a good relationship between Bajirao and Kashi and banked on the chemistry between the actors playing Baji and Mastani to make that relationship seem very normal or whatever.
Personally, I didn't care for Mastaani there either..Kashi was the dignified one who struck a chord.
And in the show, they are deliberately making Baji and Mastani some kind of divine soulmates which is very difficult to digest!
If he had an affair, it didn't have to be because his wife didn't understand him. That is way too unfair!

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