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Posted: 8 years ago
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Here's what I think. Kattappa relegated himself into the loyal servant position so firmly that he wasn't able to be anything else. A loyal servant defends their master, who is sivagami devi for all purposes, but at the end of the day doesn't get involved in the politics. He was her watchdog. But, not someone who interfered in the throne politics. He knew bhallaldev wanted her dead, mainly from the conversation he overheard in the beginning of the film. But he did not notify sivagami of that because he knew while he enjoys sivagami's trust, she would have a hard time believing of bhallaldev's real feelings for her and would need evidence which he did not have. So, he trusted in his ability to defend sivagami against ballaldev and let it go and he also trusted sivagami's judgement! Because until then nobody had a reason to question sivagami's judgement, she always walked on the path of dharma and was fair and wasn't so swayed by emotions. But after kattappa and baahubali came back and the situation degenerated, if he said anything regarding bhallaldev, sivagami would just question his intention and accuse him of defaming bhallaldev because he is so close to baahubali.

So, to actually conclude this whole rambling, he got used in this vicious chain of reaction because of his role as a servant and how seriously he took this role. I would compare his devotion to protect the throne with bhisma from mahabharat, who despite knowing duryadhans were on the side of
adharma and loving pandavas fiercely, still fought with duryadhans because he had taken a vachan and no matter what he would not go back on it. Kattappa is same in this situation, his vachan to protect the throne was everything, however wrong it ended up being. I think in a way, you are right to say Kattappa is to blame in technical terms, but at the same time he is like bhisma who you can't help but respect for their sacrifice and tenacity. In a way, they were following their own dharma of standing by their vachan.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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i still feel the movie had below average story still went on to become massive hit
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: springkissed

Here's what I think. Kattappa relegated himself into the loyal servant position so firmly that he wasn't able to be anything else. A loyal servant defends their master, who is sivagami devi for all purposes, but at the end of the day doesn't get involved in the politics. He was her watchdog. But, not someone who interfered in the throne politics. He knew bhallaldev wanted her dead, mainly from the conversation he overheard in the beginning of the film. But he did not notify sivagami of that because he knew while he enjoys sivagami's trust, she would have a hard time believing of bhallaldev's real feelings for her and would need evidence which he did not have. So, he trusted in his ability to defend sivagami against ballaldev and let it go and he also trusted sivagami's judgement! Because until then nobody had a reason to question sivagami's judgement, she always walked on the path of dharma and was fair and wasn't so swayed by emotions. But after kattappa and baahubali came back and the situation degenerated, if he said anything regarding bhallaldev, sivagami would just question his intention and accuse him of defaming bhallaldev because he is so close to baahubali.

So, to actually conclude this whole rambling, he got used in this vicious chain of reaction because of his role as a servant and how seriously he took this role. I would compare his devotion to protect the throne with bhisma from mahabharat, who despite knowing duryadhans were on the side of
adharma and loving pandavas fiercely, still fought with duryadhans because he had taken a vachan and no matter what he would not go back on it. Kattappa is same in this situation, his vachan to protect the throne was everything, however wrong it ended up being. I think in a way, you are right to say Kattappa is to blame in technical terms, but at the same time he is like bhisma who you can't help but respect for their sacrifice and tenacity. In a way, they were following their own dharma of standing by their vachan.


As Sivagami's security detail/protector/body guard his job was to protect her from all external and internal threats. If she demanded loyalty from him and nothing else then it wasn't his call to pick and chose when her husband was clearly conspiring to murder her. To me Kattappa was a horrible person, he was neither a great soldier nor a good friend as he failed on both counts. While people like Sivagami, Bhallaldeva and others died Kattappa should have suffered the same fate because to me his crimes are far more deplorable then the other two.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: F.I.T.B

i still feel the movie had below average story still went on to become massive hit


Below average stories are usually what catches on with the masses because if it's too complicated, then people might not understand or would not feel so readily entertained. Sometimes simplicity in interaction makes for a more enjoyable viewing experience (though I definitely would not have minded more intricate story, though I'm okay with what I saw because I knew what I was getting going in)
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As Sivagami's security detail/protector/body guard his job was to protect her from all external and internal threats. If she demanded loyalty from him and nothing else then it wasn't his call to pick and chose when her husband was clearly conspiring to murder her. To me Kattappa was a horrible person, he was neither a great soldier nor a good friend as he failed on both counts. While people like Sivagami, Bhallaldeva and others died Kattappa should have suffered the same fate because to me his crimes are far more deplorable then the other two.


You are right in a way, too. He should have notified sivagami no matter what, that decision of his did cost him later on. He relied on his abilities and sivagami's fairness a bit too much to predict the dire consequences. Though I think the chain reaction happened as of indirect consequences to that one decision of his. And I know I could hate him for all his wrong decisions, but somehow I don't because he also suffered with guilt all those years and he also had to serve bhallaldev despite knowing what he made him do and the fact he killed sivagami. It's serving under your worst enemy and bowing down to them instead of killing them. That takes a certain tenacity, so I just consider that period his punishment, where he stews over where he went wrong and suffers from guilt and bhallaldev's injustices helplessly. I think at the end of the day, Kattappa lived a lonely life despite having a long one, while baahubali lived a fulfilling and happier one despite it being shorter, so that is another aspect of punishment. So, I really can't bring myself to hate this guy. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: springkissed


You are right in a way, too. He should have notified sivagami no matter what, that decision of his did cost him later on. He relied on his abilities and sivagami's fairness a bit too much to predict the dire consequences. Though I think the chain reaction happened as of indirect consequences to that one decision of his. And I know I could hate him for all his wrong decisions, but somehow I don't because he also suffered with guilt all those years and he also had to serve bhallaldev despite knowing what he made him do and the fact he killed sivagami. It's serving under your worst enemy and bowing down to them instead of killing them. That takes a certain tenacity, so I just consider that period his punishment, where he stews over where he went wrong and suffers from guilt and bhallaldev's injustices helplessly. I think at the end of the day, Kattappa lived a lonely life despite having a long one, while baahubali lived a fulfilling and happier one despite it being shorter, so that is another aspect of punishment. So, I really can't bring myself to hate this guy. 😆


Loving your posts on this thread...😃

Also adding to what you said, all said and done, intent does matter..And we all know how fiercely protective he is of Baahubali...Its just an unfortunate turn of fate that the person who is Baahubali's best ally also became his nemesis......Your Mahabharata analogy explains it the best!👍🏼He is just like Bhishma, who despite standing against Pandavas in the ultimate war, remains as one of the most respected and loved character!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: springkissed


You are right in a way, too. He should have notified sivagami no matter what, that decision of his did cost him later on. He relied on his abilities and sivagami's fairness a bit too much to predict the dire consequences. Though I think the chain reaction happened as of indirect consequences to that one decision of his. And I know I could hate him for all his wrong decisions, but somehow I don't because he also suffered with guilt all those years and he also had to serve bhallaldev despite knowing what he made him do and the fact he killed sivagami. It's serving under your worst enemy and bowing down to them instead of killing them. That takes a certain tenacity, so I just consider that period his punishment, where he stews over where he went wrong and suffers from guilt and bhallaldev's injustices helplessly. I think at the end of the day, Kattappa lived a lonely life despite having a long one, while baahubali lived a fulfilling and happier one despite it being shorter, so that is another aspect of punishment. So, I really can't bring myself to hate this guy. 😆

U've explained it so beautifully ⭐️

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