Is it an ultimate test for the husband?? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Atonement

What grounds do we have to believe that she is mentally ill? Almost nothing.

We have plenty of grounds to believe that she takes pleasure in inflicting pain on others and she lacks empathy completely. Forget about Vandana or Ayan, she in unable to be empathetic with her so-called Beyhad Love, Arjun.

We don't know yet whether she is a killer or not.

How can we conclude that she is suffering from mental illness? Leave depression out of it. Not every depressed person is a sadist.

She can be a perfectly normal person with God complex that she is the one who has to bring justice upon other people, and whatever she wants is justified.

I also like Jenny and Kushu, but .. 'if you still think this has a happy ending, you have not been paying attention.'

Originally posted by: FleurBleue

I would have accepted the outlandish ways of Maya to test Arjun's commitment given she really doesn't grasp any better, but how do you test your partner by letting another man bite and feel you up? She loses me at that particular juncture. Don't start with the rubbish that she was compelled. Why would she feel compelled to frame Ayan? She could have smoothly thrown him out of the house but she didn't. She had this urge to play God and dole out punishment to him as he dared to come close to Arjun.

That's not testing. It's just plain and simple mindf**kery.

yeah that was last straw to me as well

Originally posted by: vid6

There are clear cut signs shown by her in all of the episodes so far. If you are still not convinced then IF members had analysed her character very well via various posts. She has no one condition...instead multitude of conditions starting with depression, anxiety, mania, schizophrenia, bipolar, MPD and is also showing psychopathic symptoms. Thats what has caught my attention...what does happen to such people apart from death sentence/mental asylum. Can they ever be treated and become a healthy normal person? Can they ever become a part of the society like in a healthy manner?

I don't know which pop psychology has been in use, but technically one person cannot have all these conditions.

1. Depression and mania are parts of bipolar so for discussion purpose, we can only use the Bipolar term.

2. Anxiety is not mental illness. People don't kill others just because they are anxious.

3. Maya has not shown any signs of schizophrenia and MPD. Kindly make a quick search on Google.

4. A person suffering from bipolar cannot be a psychopath, again technically because such a person is usually suicidal and cause self-harm. On the other hand, psychopaths lack empathy and would never think about committing suicide.

The only type of mental illness she has shown so far is psychopathy and as far as its cure is concerned then here is a quote from a science journal about psychopathy:

"TO THE BEST of our knowledge, there is no cure for psychopathy. No pill can instill empathy, no vaccine can prevent murder in cold blood, and no amount of talk therapy can change an uncaring mind. For all intents and purposes, psychopaths are lost to the normal social world."

Originally posted by: Atonement

I don't know which pop psychology has been in use, but technically one person cannot have all these conditions.

1. Depression and mania are parts of bipolar so for discussion purpose, we can only use the Bipolar term.

2. Anxiety is not mental illness. People don't kill others just because they are anxious.

3. Maya has not shown any signs of schizophrenia and MPD. Kindly make a quick search on Google.

4. A person suffering from bipolar cannot be a psychopath, again technically because such a person is usually suicidal and cause self-harm. On the other hand, psychopaths lack empathy and would never think about committing suicide.

The only type of mental illness she has shown so far is psychopathy and as far as its cure is concerned then here is a quote from a science journal about psychopathy:

"TO THE BEST of our knowledge, there is no cure for psychopathy. No pill can instill empathy, no vaccine can prevent murder in cold blood, and no amount of talk therapy can change an uncaring mind. For all intents and purposes, psychopaths are lost to the normal social world."

Originally posted by: dexter3108

"A person suffering from bipolar cannot be a psychopath". Not entirely correct.

Can you provide reference to support your claim?

Originally posted by: vid6

There are clear cut signs shown by her in all of the episodes so far. If you are still not convinced then IF members had analysed her character very well via various posts. She has no one condition...instead multitude of conditions starting with depression, anxiety, mania, schizophrenia, bipolar, MPD and is also showing psychopathic symptoms. Thats what has caught my attention...what does happen to such people apart from death sentence/mental asylum. Can they ever be treated and become a healthy normal person? Can they ever become a part of the society like in a healthy manner?

Originally posted by: HadhSeJyada

Sincere request, as a human being and as a professional in the field, please do not involve Bipolar disorder, Schizophrenia, MPD, Depression or any mental illness into this. I've begged the CVs to not do so too. But I don't know if I'll succeed in reaching them, but I will not give up.

Please.

There are already so many misconceptions regarding it, you're just aggravating it.

This is my one and only earnest request to everyone.

Also, the answer to your questions:

They exist. Most of them get better, some of them succeed in taking their lives. Some of them simply learn to live with it.

And we, people in this field, hold their hand and help them to get out of the darkness.

And no, asylums aren't jail for "mental" people. They're just a step towards betterment. Stop looking at it like that.

No, bipolar disorder and psychopathy are two entirely different things, psychopathy is often misdiagnosed as bipolar disorder.

A bipolar may act like a psychopath when off medications and do some bizarre things that seem highly psychopathic, however, the disorders don't merge and when properly medicated a bipolar will revert back to a person with a fully functional conscience.

As a patient who suffers from it said:

"I am bipolar, yet I don't experience any changes in mood. I experience changes in thought patterns and behavior.

In mania, I experience hyperactivity, euphoria, racing thoughts, hazy thoughts, focus issues, and increased impulsivity.

In depression, I experience lack of motivation, lack of energy, focus issues, lethargy, extreme physical and mental fatigue, and loss of appetite.

I still am stone faced and unemotive, and do not generally feel emotion. I'm more or less the same aside from those few symptoms. As long as I recognize which state I'm in, I can effectively control it, but that all depends on me recognizing it. As I've stated I experience emotional poverty/proto-emotions, so if provoked I can either enter rages when in mania, or experience some sense of depressive-frustration when in depression, or also anger, I just tend to be a bit more irritable in these stages. But these emotions generally last only as long as I'm being provoked and fade almost immediately after the previous conflict is over and are exceedingly rare for me. They are short-lived and as shallow as a puddle.

Not to be confused with Schizoid Personality Disorder, where the individual experiences deep emotion and has a rich, imaginative, inner world, and experiences deep, lasting emotion, yet is outwardly cold and detatched.

Or Schizophrenia, where emotional flatness and limited range of facial expressions are present symptoms. Especially since I do not experience delusions or hallucinations."

Thanks for giving professional opinion 😊