An illusive build up for the future exposure

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Background facts:

In yesterday's episode we saw Chandra arguing with Nandhni saying - No matter how loud you shout, the fact remains unchanged that Durdhara is dead and you killed her.
Having said this much Chandra makes an exit for a meeting with Chanakya.
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In today's episode we saw Chandra makes an entry and asks Nandhni - Why did you maintain silence if you were really innocent?

The underlying mystery:

What might have made Chandra question himself on his statement later on? The answer may lie on another question 'What might have been discussed in the secret meeting of Chandra and Chankya?'

Having stated the background facts, I would like to concentrate on the title of the thread..'The illusive build up'


Illusion No.1: (created by CVs for the audience)- The Moon (Chandra) is again on the coconut tree(English usage : Back to square one ).Pardon me for the usage of a transliterated regional(malayalam) proverb.

This is the first impression we get on seeing Chandra. In one moment he looks like he want to believe Nandhni and another moment he prefers(pretends) not to believe her.

Explanation: In the pre leap episodes Chandra's expressions were clearly conveyed. More than his dialogues his expressions conveyed his inner turmoils better.

In post leap episodes (especially in his scenes with Nandhni ) it seems like he is trying hard to hide his mind behind his fast paced dialogues. Remember the scene where Chandra saves Nandhni from fire, We just heard his concerned filled voice uttering Nandhni, but we also wanted to see his concerned filled face for Nandhni while saving her, instead of a close up shot of Chandra's face we got to see Moora's shocked face and a long shot of Chandra saving Nandhni and a close up shot of he pushing her hard to the floor.

In short the camera angles were wise enough to not shoot his close ups.


Illusion No.2:(created by Chandra for Helena)- Chandra trusts Helena over Nandhni.

This would be the impression Helena would get when Chandra asks Helena about Nandhni's chances of being innocent.

Again why would Chandra seeks Helena's suggestion for Nandhni when he clearly know's Helena's nature and her attitude and jealousy towards Nandhni.

Explanation: This scene takes place anyway after Chandra's secret meeting with Chanakya, so there is a chance for this could be an otherwise trial for Helena.

Chandra might wanted to catch Helena's expressions and reactions on when he expresses his doubt regarding a hidden culprit behind Durdhara's murder.


Illusion No.3: (created by Chandra and Chanakya for every one over Magadh and the palace especially for Apama and team ) - Chandra dishonouring Chanakya following Chanakya's walkout from even the entire Magadh kingdom.

In the opening shot of today's episode Apama was just telling about Chanakya leaving the palace and addressed Magdanese as the next Prime Minister. This scene works out exactly on the same line, nothing went here or there.

Exactly the way Apama plotted.


All these illusions are mainly targeted for Apama and team and they are on cloud nine so that on the day exposure they could fall very hard.(Even then Helena would make an intelligent escape).


On a side note: I am really disappointed with Moora's character,she just proved to be another telly world Mother in law who just blindly believes what is shown to her and blindly accuses her 'daughter - like' daughter in law whom once she used to praise endlessly at her goddess roop and suddenly some allegations makes her take a U-turn and when everything gets sorted out and finally when her daughter(in law) is proven innocent goes and begs for pardon - Muje kshama kardo puthri, mujse galthi hogayi, meine tumhari bahot dil dukhaayi.. and the aadarsh daughter in law replies: Nahin maa aap mere saamne haath madth jodiye, badon ke haath sirf bachon ko aashirvad dene keliye udtha hein.. aapki koi galathi nahin hein ma.. muje bilkul bura nahin laga.. and the epic rants goes on..

Again the next day another set of allegations and the cycle repeats on and on..


In the beginning we saw Chandra Nandhni drawing parallels to Bahubali and we saw Moora in the place of Devsena, and it was my fault in expecting some similar strength of Devsena in Moora.

Her character is changed from that of a strong willed woman to a typical tellyworld mother in law.. Missing the old Moora self.


The points on illusions and the following conclusions I made on this post based on today's episode are just my views. I just hope there is some hidden plotting behind Chandra's sudden raised pride.

Would like to hear your point of view and healthy debates are warmly welcomed..😳

Thankyou for reading.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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back to square one for sure..
same thing again only Nandini has to bear .. poison drama twice
they've shown too much today..
it was looking quite clear that chandra is acting on something preplanned because in no way he would disrespect his guru this much..
and chanaya said "Sapola" lol
Both crossed their limits.
Nandini self respect is sinking deep down. No limits of apama.
After this track I don't think the cycle is going to repeat instead there are chances of leap or some new villain


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Very logical thinking Alanta. And very beautifully written. My comments in Blue.


Originally posted by: alanta


The underlying mystery:

What might have made Chandra question himself on his statement later on? The answer may lie on another question 'What might have been discussed in the secret meeting of Chandra and Chankya?'

CK knows that Aparna has hands on :
a) Involvement in Roopa's case - Treason against King making him face an imposter Queen
b) Misusing Rajmudra - Political crime
c) Kidnapping of Bindu in Kaling - threat to King, Prince and entire Magadh kingdom.

Except for Rajmudra, where CK caught her red handed, he doesn't have proof or witness for others.

Aparna simply tells Chandra - I was using Sunanda to get info on NAND to help you. How can she be helping and be against Chandra ? She dint tell him anything about misuse of Rajmudra, and she definitely had no idea of CK knowing about her involvement in Bindu's kidnap case. And Chandra was witness to Helena letting go of Bindu so easily at Kaling, when the kidnappers came and Nandini saving him.

Roopa's case clearly states that they were plotting against Nandini. Even during Haldi Ceremony of Chandini, CK had pointed to Chandu - There's someone in the Palace who wants to harm Nandini but wants to save Chandra. So, CK has a hunch that its something to do with Helena and Aparna.

CK was very clear that he wouldn't allow foreign invasions on our Motherland. CK didn't want Helena's heir to rule the throne as it would tantamount to foreigners ruling the land. Which is why he asked Chandra to get the heir through Durdhara. With Durdhara out of the way, and Nandini framed for it, the coast is clear for Helena to get her dreams cme true.

So, he has to collect facts to protect his Motherland from the Greece Duo. For that, he needs to arm twist Sunanda, and the spy who went to NAND, and the Daasi who carried out the orders of Helena inside the Palace, Nandini being proved innocent is only part of the process.


Having stated the background facts, I would like to concentrate on the title of the thread..'The illusive build up'


Illusion No.1: (created by CVs for the audience)- The Moon (Chandra) is again on the coconut tree(English usage : Back to square one ).Pardon me for the usage of a transliterated regional(malayalam) proverb.

This is the first impression we get on seeing Chandra. In one moment he looks like he want to believe Nandhni and another moment he prefers(pretends) not to believe her.
Explanation: In the pre leap episodes Chandra's expressions were clearly conveyed. More than his dialogues his expressions conveyed his inner turmoils better.

In post leap episodes (especially in his scenes with Nandhni ) it seems like he is trying hard to hide his mind behind his fast paced dialogues. Remember the scene where Chandra saves Nandhni from fire, We just heard his concerned filled voice uttering Nandhni, but we also wanted to see his concerned filled face for Nandhni while saving her, instead of a close up shot of Chandra's face we got to see Moora's shocked face and a long shot of Chandra saving Nandhni and a close up shot of he pushing her hard to the floor.
In short the camera angles were wise enough to not shoot his close ups.


Illusion No.2:(created by Chandra for Helena)- Chandra trusts Helena over Nandhni.

This would be the impression Helena would get when Chandra asks Helena about Nandhni's chances of being innocent.
Again why would Chandra seeks Helena's suggestion for Nandhni when he clearly know's Helena's nature and her attitude and jealousy towards Nandhni.
Explanation: This scene takes place anyway after Chandra's secret meeting with Chanakya, so there is a chance for this could be an otherwise trial for Helena.
Chandra might wanted to catch Helena's expressions and reactions on when he expresses his doubt regarding a hidden culprit behind Durdhara's murder.


Well, as they say, keep your friends close and enemies closer. CK and CGM has started plotting against Appu and Hellu. Chandu knows that Hellu hated Nandu right from Malay days. Hellu wanted a child from Chandu and he has been denying for a long time. Earning Hellu's trust will boost the confidence of Appu, and making more mistake in excitement.

Coming to her room after a year is to raise her hopes that things could still work out in her favour. Asking her opinion about Nandu's involvement in Durdhara's murder is all meant to give her an impression that things are still NOT in good terms between Chandu and Nandu, and that he doesn't doubt Hellu an inch about the murder.


Illusion No.3: (created by Chandra and Chanakya for every one over Magadh and the palace especially for Apama and team ) - Chandra dishonouring Chanakya following Chanakya's walkout from even the entire Magadh kingdom.

In the opening shot of today's episode Apama was just telling about Chanakya leaving the palace and addressed Magdanese as the next Prime Minister. This scene works out exactly on the same line, nothing went here or there.

Exactly the way Apama plotted.





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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: spring089

back to square one for sure..
same thing again only Nandini has to bear .. poison drama twice
they've shown too much today..
it was looking quite clear that chandra is acting on something preplanned because in no way he would disrespect his guru this much..
and chanaya said "Sapola" lol
Both crossed their limits.
Nandini self respect is sinking deep down. No limits of apama.
After this track I don't think the cycle is going to repeat instead there are chances of leap or some new villain



@bold fingers crossed, and I do think next track will be focussed on padmanand

Thank you for replying😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajatshweta

Very logical thinking Alanta. And very beautifully written. My comments in Blue.



The underlying mystery:

What might have made Chandra question himself on his statement later on? The answer may lie on another question 'What might have been discussed in the secret meeting of Chandra and Chankya?'

CK knows that Aparna has hands on :
a) Involvement in Roopa's case - Treason against King making him face an imposter Queen
b) Misusing Rajmudra - Political crime
c) Kidnapping of Bindu in Kaling - threat to King, Prince and entire Magadh kingdom.

Except for Rajmudra, where CK caught her red handed, he doesn't have proof or witness for others.

Aparna simply tells Chandra - I was using Sunanda to get info on NAND to help you. How can she be helping and be against Chandra ? She dint tell him anything about misuse of Rajmudra, and she definitely had no idea of CK knowing about her involvement in Bindu's kidnap case. And Chandra was witness to Helena letting go of Bindu so easily at Kaling, when the kidnappers came and Nandini saving him.

Roopa's case clearly states that they were plotting against Nandini. Even during Haldi Ceremony of Chandini, CK had pointed to Chandu - There's someone in the Palace who wants to harm Nandini but wants to save Chandra. So, CK has a hunch that its something to do with Helena and Aparna.

CK was very clear that he wouldn't allow foreign invasions on our Motherland. CK didn't want Helena's heir to rule the throne as it would tantamount to foreigners ruling the land. Which is why he asked Chandra to get the heir through Durdhara. With Durdhara out of the way, and Nandini framed for it, the coast is clear for Helena to get her dreams cme true.

So, he has to collect facts to protect his Motherland from the Greece Duo. For that, he needs to arm twist Sunanda, and the spy who went to NAND, and the Daasi who carried out the orders of Helena inside the Palace, Nandini being proved innocent is only part of the process.


Having stated the background facts, I would like to concentrate on the title of the thread..'The illusive build up'


Illusion No.1: (created by CVs for the audience)- The Moon (Chandra) is again on the coconut tree(English usage : Back to square one ).Pardon me for the usage of a transliterated regional(malayalam) proverb.

This is the first impression we get on seeing Chandra. In one moment he looks like he want to believe Nandhni and another moment he prefers(pretends) not to believe her.
Explanation: In the pre leap episodes Chandra's expressions were clearly conveyed. More than his dialogues his expressions conveyed his inner turmoils better.

In post leap episodes (especially in his scenes with Nandhni ) it seems like he is trying hard to hide his mind behind his fast paced dialogues. Remember the scene where Chandra saves Nandhni from fire, We just heard his concerned filled voice uttering Nandhni, but we also wanted to see his concerned filled face for Nandhni while saving her, instead of a close up shot of Chandra's face we got to see Moora's shocked face and a long shot of Chandra saving Nandhni and a close up shot of he pushing her hard to the floor.
In short the camera angles were wise enough to not shoot his close ups.


Illusion No.2:(created by Chandra for Helena)- Chandra trusts Helena over Nandhni.

This would be the impression Helena would get when Chandra asks Helena about Nandhni's chances of being innocent.
Again why would Chandra seeks Helena's suggestion for Nandhni when he clearly know's Helena's nature and her attitude and jealousy towards Nandhni.
Explanation: This scene takes place anyway after Chandra's secret meeting with Chanakya, so there is a chance for this could be an otherwise trial for Helena.
Chandra might wanted to catch Helena's expressions and reactions on when he expresses his doubt regarding a hidden culprit behind Durdhara's murder.


Well, as they say, keep your friends close and enemies closer. CK and CGM has started plotting against Appu and Hellu. Chandu knows that Hellu hated Nandu right from Malay days. Hellu wanted a child from Chandu and he has been denying for a long time. Earning Hellu's trust will boost the confidence of Appu, and making more mistake in excitement.

Coming to her room after a year is to raise her hopes that things could still work out in her favour. Asking her opinion about Nandu's involvement in Durdhara's murder is all meant to give her an impression that things are still NOT in good terms between Chandu and Nandu, and that he doesn't doubt Hellu an inch about the murder.


Illusion No.3: (created by Chandra and Chanakya for every one over Magadh and the palace especially for Apama and team ) - Chandra dishonouring Chanakya following Chanakya's walkout from even the entire Magadh kingdom.

In the opening shot of today's episode Apama was just telling about Chanakya leaving the palace and addressed Magdanese as the next Prime Minister. This scene works out exactly on the same line, nothing went here or there.

Exactly the way Apama plotted.


Thank you for pointing out in detail and I really hope so

And I would like to add on the lines if CGM is wise enough he should catch up the clue a poison drama is up for Bindusar targeting Nandhini
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: alanta


Thank you for pointing out in detail and I really hope so

And I would like to add on the lines if CGM is wise enough he should catch up the clue a poison drama is up for Bindusar targeting Nandhini



A new spoiler ??
Well, in that case, i think it will work wonders in Nandini's favour.

Nandini knows well about medicine. Even in Kaling, she was heard telling Chandra about medicines that is good for Bindu - and that medicine is specifically available only in Kaling. Remember ? So, she has knowledge about Origins of Medicines and where the medicine can be got also.

Aparna and Helena will give poison to Bindu, because its spoiling their plan of getting a heir through Chandra.
If i am not wrong, she will give a poison, similar to what she gave for Durdhara. Nandini and CK might get a clue that the poison chadibooti is available only from Greece (not available in India) ... and the noose could tighten around Aapama more .

Lets hope the CVs work on these lines. But you know how they are...😃
Edited by rajatshweta - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@rajatswetha No yaar haven't read any spoilers regarding this so far... This is just an intusion and as u said this would work in Nandini's favor and the greek duo will be caught red handed after a staged drama by cc. Just hopes😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think next they are going to kill Dadi ma and to blame it on Nandini.

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