Jhanvi - the trump card

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shruti

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Posted: 8 years ago

Finally the show seems to be back on track. THIS is the Beyhadh I've been waiting to see. 👏

It was always clear that it will come down to Arjun vs Maya at some point.

The fight for survival- Maya fighting to save who she believes she cannot live without, and Arjun fighting to save himself from the person he has realized he cannot live with. I think they

are moving towards Maya framing Arjun for physical abuse and (or) her murder like Amy Dunne, and Saanjh fighting the case to save Arjun and prove Maya's psychosis to the world.

I can't wait to see how they play this out.

Bravo Jennifer Winget for portraying Maya so brilliantly and kudos to Kushal for finally somewhat matching up to JW's intensity. If both of them keep up this level of performance for the remainder of the show then I think we are in for a blast. 😃

The thing that now intrigues me is what is Jhanvi's role going to be in all of this. Jhanvi is the ONLY person currently who actually knows the infamous "MAYA KA SACH". She is also the only one other than Maya and Arjun who has any idea about how their life has been in the last 3 years. She is the only one who knows why Maya is the way she is. Arjun knows that something is wrong with Maya but probably does not know the reason and Maya is definitely living in some dellusion where she does not even know there is something wrong with her. So I see Jhanvi coming out of her current state being a very crucial game changer for the story.

I wonder if Jhanvi's revival will have a positive or negative influence vis-a-vis Maya.

1. If it was indeed Maya in the godown that day then Jhanvi must now be aware of exactly what Maya is capable of. Maya will be aware that Jhani knows everything. So then why the battered wife act by Maya in front of Jhanvi? Why would Maya think that Jhanvi of all people would be her witness when it came down to it because logically Jhanvi should be the last person who would believe her act. Why would she pretend in front of the one person who will see through her act? What is Maya's play here?

2. If Jhanvi knows everything then I would assume that she has not bought Maya's abused wife story completely. So then is Jhanvi going to be that crucial witness who will help Saanjh prove Arjun's innocence?

3. If at all Maya is not the one responsible for the killings then Jhanvi revealing the real killer will potentially change the dynamics of the show.

4. Maya's "sach" depending on how effectively it will explain her current condition might tilt the characters in her favor and change the way the story will progress for Maya. If her mental condition absolves her of the responsibility of some of her actions we might see more characters being sympathetic towards her and maybe a somewhat bittersweet end for her. If her sach is just going to prove that she has always been irredeemably pcychotic then that might pave the way for a more tragic end for her.

5. They have never portrayed Maya as the "villain" in the story but rather the "Anti-Hero". She is still the protagonist and it's still her story. So keeping that in mind I would assume that there would need to be at least one person who will want to "save" Maya and bring her out of this "hell hole" that she has created for herself. There has to be a voice of reason who will attempt to bring her out of this darkness, who will want her to live and who will want to try and help her.

I don't think Arjun is going to care about saving Maya from herself anymore. He will probably want to run as far away as he can the first chance he gets. If Arjun does not care, I doubt Saanjh will care. That leaves Jhanvi as the only person in the show who would still have any love for Maya when everything is said and done and the only person who will actually want Maya to heal.

I doubt the CVs would want to show that all characters are against Maya in the end. There has to be someone who will try and get her some help (If Maya survives the end). I think Jhanvi will play that role as somewhere she has a huge part to play in Maya's condition IMO.

It'll be interesting to see how Jhanvi will influence the story going forward. I think she is the trump card that will determine the next big twist in the story and push it towards its conclusion.

Edited by sweetshruti - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago

evn though ive almost quit & not gona watch d show anymore, dis is a nice post..

& i agree jhanvi has a really imp part to play. like u said, her revelations can change wot we feel, fr d chars totally!

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MistyDawn

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Posted: 8 years ago

Hi Shruti! I have been missing your posts eversince phase 2 started ..The first episode of phase 2 really set the stage.. Maya is delusional..the beginning of the episode, roses petals and all that really reflects the depth of her delusion.. She now sees Arjun's manhandling and hatred as ways of expressing his right over her..In that very episode when she was going on and on about how much Arjun loves her, how he has planned a surprise for her, Jhanvi looked concerned.. as if she was watching a mirror, her own story unfold infront of her eyes.. that's when she pressed her panic button..literally to shake her up.. Maya broke that button, just like she drowned Ganesha.. she seems to be in her own world where she lives with a loving husband Arjun.. whereas the real one is screaming far away from a distant land, hurling abuses at her and wanting to be free..his voices don't reach her.. Jhanvi's expression the next day when she saw Maya hurt because of the impact of the door Arjun slammed on her face, was again of concern.. I am not ruling out the possibility that Jhanvi is a victim of Maya's actions and that Maya is the murderer.. But at this point in the story, Maya is coming across more as a patient who needs to be treated medically and not someone who just hurts or frustrates people for the heck of it..something that Arjun seems to be believe.. that Maya enjoys caging him.. I am not very convinced there.. so yes Jhanvi does hold the key in that regard.. for the audience to understand where is Arjun's hatred for Maya coming from..? Why is he not contemplating a possibility that Maya is sick and needs to be treated.. If she can bear humiliation, hatred and manhandling why can't he persuade her to see a doctor..? I am not convinced with the motivation of Arjun's hatred for Maya being only the claustrophobia he feels around her.. he may have found out from hospital reports that Maya had faked pregnancy and miscarriage to get rid of Saanjh.. which will totally complicate matters when Saanjh who still has feelings for Arjun comes along with her boyfriend.. But my gut feeling says that since Beyhadh is centred around Maya and she is main protagonist, they won't show Maya as a complete dark, unredeemable character with a ''sad'' ending..

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shruti

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: RebeccaValentin
evn though ive almost quit & not gona watch d show anymore, dis is a nice post..
& i agree jhanvi has a really imp part to play. like u said, her revelations can change wot we feel, fr d chars totally!

Thanks 😊

Jhanvi's revelations will change the way we look at the story IMO.

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MistyDawn

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Posted: 8 years ago

Had missed mentioning this in my earlier post.. I have an inkling too, that Maya maybe ''posing'' as an abused wife infront of the world ( anniversary party today) and Jhanvi to trap Arjun.. Even the other day, I felt that Maya injured herself behind closed doors to make it look like Arjun hit her.. Yes she said ''Stop Arjun its hurting me.. but that could well be Maya herself hurting herself with a broken glass..and she wanted him to stop her.. that's love and concern for Maya now.. 😕 and how can pretend infront of Jhanvi? innocent or guitly, Jhanvi knows Maya the most.. unless she is so sick that she doesn't remember her own actions.. I am saying this because while conversing with Jhanvi in the first episode, she said that all her obstacles, Ashwin, Saanjh, Arjun's mother miraculously got removed from her way.. If she murdered Ashwin, does she not remember?

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shruti

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: MistyDawn
Hi Shruti! I have been missing your posts eversince phase 2 started
Aww thanks. I've been wanting to write since the brilliant 1st episode. Just din't get the time. Nice to know that I've been missed 😊😳

..The first episode of phase 2 really set the stage.. Maya is delusional..the beginning of the episode, roses petals and all that really reflects the depth of her delusion.. She now sees Arjun's manhandling and hatred as ways of expressing his right over her..In that very episode when she was going on and on about how much Arjun loves her, how he has planned a surprise for her, Jhanvi looked concerned.. as if she was watching a mirror, her own story unfold infront of her eyes.. that's when she pressed her panic button..literally to shake her up.. Maya broke that button, just like she drowned Ganesha.. she seems to be in her own world where she lives with a loving husband Arjun.. whereas the real one is screaming far away from a distant land, hurling abuses at her and wanting to be free..his voices don't reach her.. Jhanvi's expression the next day when she saw Maya hurt because of the impact of the door Arjun slammed on her face, was again of concern..

Word... Maya is dangerously delusional currently. She seems to have lost all touch with reality and Jhanvi pressing the panic button I think was an attempt to get her back to reality. Jhanvi's concern seemed to be for Maya's absolute delusional state and like you said her seeing Maya go down the path she herself has been through. I don't think Jhanvi's concern had anything to do with her thinking that Arjun was physically abusing Maya. I don't think she buys Maya's battered wife act. Her concern seemed to be more of that of a mother seeing her daughter running towards her doom at break neck speed.

I am not ruling out the possibility that Jhanvi is a victim of Maya's actions and that Maya is the murderer..But at this point in the story, Maya is coming across more as a patient who needs to be treated medically and not someone who just hurts or frustrates people for the heck of it..something that Arjun seems to be believe.. that Maya enjoys caging him..

Agreed.

I am not very convinced there.. so yes Jhanvi does hold the key in that regard.. for the audience to understand where is Arjun's hatred for Maya coming from..? Why is he not contemplating a possibility that Maya is sick and needs to be treated.. If she can bear humiliation, hatred and manhandling why can't he persuade her to see a doctor..? I am not convinced with the motivation of Arjun's hatred for Maya being only the claustrophobia he feels around her.. he may have found out from hospital reports that Maya had faked pregnancy and miscarriage to get rid of Saanjh..

Yeah KT and JW did say that they will reveal what transpired between them these 3 years to make Arjun hate her so much. I don't think it's just the suffocation he feels around her. It might be like you said that found out about the fake pregnancy, or maybe he tried to leave before and she did something drastic to make him stay, maybe threatened him or his family.

which will totally complicate matters when Saanjh who still has feelings for Arjun comes along with her boyfriend.. But my gut feeling says that since Beyhadh is centred around Maya and she is main protagonist, they won't show Maya as a complete dark, unredeemable character with a ''sad'' ending..

I think showing that Saanjh has a boyfriend is so that Arjun starts realizing that he has feelings for her . They do seem to be going in that direction, which is why we had all those scenes between Arjun and Saanjh where he calls her his sukoon and claims to love her etc.

I agree, I don't think Maya is going to go down as a non-sympathetic unredeemable character. My guess is that she will most probably die in the end, maybe kill herself or die saving Arjun/Saanjh/Jhanvi. But they will make it such that the characters and the audience will empathize with her when she dies.

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shruti

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: MistyDawn
Had missed mentioning this in my earlier post.. I have an inkling too, that Maya maybe ''posing'' as an abused wife infront of the world ( anniversary party today) and Jhanvi to trap Arjun.. Even the other day, I felt that Maya injured herself behind closed doors to make it look like Arjun hit her.. Yes she said ''Stop Arjun its hurting me.. but that could well be Maya herself hurting herself with a broken glass..and she wanted him to stop her.. that's love and concern for Maya now.. 😕 and how can pretend infront of Jhanvi? innocent or guitly, Jhanvi knows Maya the most.. unless she is so sick that she doesn't remember her own actions.. I am saying this because while conversing with Jhanvi in the first episode, she said that all her obstacles, Ashwin, Saanjh, Arjun's mother miraculously got removed from her way.. If she murdered Ashwin, does she not remember?

Yeah, Maya definitely seems to be "playing" the abused wife card in front of the world. Maybe she has already done that before or threatened Arjun that she will kill herself and put the blame on him if he leaves her, which is why he is still staying with her.

What I don't understand is WHY pretend in front of Jhanvi?? Jhanvi knows Maya in and out, and Jhanvi must know Arjun pretty well by now too so why is Maya "acting" in front of Jhanvi of all people?? 😕

And that dialogue surprised me too. The Maya before the leap was very well aware of her role in separating Arjun from his friends and family. So then what happened to her now? Is she simply delusional, or is she in denial about her role in all that OR does she actually NOT KNOW that she was responsible for for all those things???? 😕

Also, Maya telling Jhanvi that she can't wait for Jhanvi to get better - If Maya was responsible for Jhanvi's condition then why would she say that? She should not want Jhanvi to get better so as to hide her "secret" from Arjun. Is she not responsible for Jhanvi's condition OR does she not know that she is responsible for her condition???

The above two dialogues and Maya's sudden switch from anger to love for Jhanvi tempted me to reconsider the MPD theory.

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MuguetDScorpion

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Posted: 8 years ago

I am loving the show now. This is the Maya I wanted to see.

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MistyDawn

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sweetshruti

Yeah, Maya definitely seems to be "playing" the abused wife card in front of the world. Maybe she has already done that before or threatened Arjun that she will kill herself and put the blame on him if he leaves her, which is why he is still staying with her.

What I don't understand is WHY pretend in front of Jhanvi?? Jhanvi knows Maya in and out, and Jhanvi must know Arjun pretty well by now too so why is Maya "acting" in front of Jhanvi of all people?? 😕

And that dialogue surprised me too. The Maya before the leap was very well aware of her role in separating Arjun from his friends and family. So then what happened to her now? Is she simply delusional, or is she in denial about her role in all that OR does she actually NOT KNOW that she was responsible for for all those things???? 😕

Also, Maya telling Jhanvi that she can't wait for Jhanvi to get better - If Maya was responsible for Jhanvi's condition then why would she say that? She should not want Jhanvi to get better so as to hide her "secret" from Arjun. Is she not responsible for Jhanvi's condition OR does she not know that she is responsible for her condition???

The above two dialogues and Maya's sudden switch from anger to love for Jhanvi tempted me to reconsider the MPD theory.

Maya is an expert in creating perceptions so that people are misunderstood.. just as she had made Vandana and Saanjh look bad infront of the world.. now she is doing the same with Arjun.. Arjun is frustrated to the point where he loses control over himself and ends up manhandling her.. I guess that's why he was saying he has become a loser.. but i don't think he has been hitting her.. so that scene in the room looks like staged by Maya.. You are right, Jhanvi is concerned for Maya more because she can see her daughter suffering of this ailment.. it may be MPD, bipolar or some other psychological problem.. The resemblance between Maya and Jhanvi is not something one can miss.. How she was equally delusional about Ashwin loving when all he wanted was her money.. Here I am not sure what Arjun wants.. his character sketch has been very blurry.. I can't seem to look at him as a ''hero'' and at the same time he doesn't come across that sharp ( intellectually ) to have staged all the drama.. If Maya is the one to have hurt Jhanvi, then again the million dollar question is why she would she want her to recover? Jhanvi knows who murdered Ashwin and the same person is responsible for her going into coma and then paralysis.. if Maya was that person wouldn't she be scared of Maya..or has she forgiven her as a mother and now is only concerned about Maya's health?