Feminism Has Become a Brand: Neeraj Ghaywan on Women in TV and films.

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Feminism Has Become a Brand: Masaan Director Neeraj Ghaywan on Women in TV and Films


After assisting Anurag Kashyap in Ugly and Gangs of Wasseypur, director Neeraj Ghaywan went on to make the critically-acclaimed film Masaan in 2015. Recently, he spoke at Needle 2017, a communication conclave on women and girls, organised by BBC Media Action India. He talked about how the documentary film The World Before Her impacted the way he sees women and gender. He also talked about his mother who, like several Indian women, got married at a very young age and lived her entire life for her husband and her children.

Apart from discussing male entitlement, token feminism, being an atheist, and how his mother's fate fueled a major part of his anger towards the existing gender inequality in our society, he also held the media responsible for portraying repressed and regressive content.

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Read the excerpts here.

On the women of Masaan

"It was not a conscious decision to make them so strong. Me and my writer Varun Grover are both feminists, but we aren't women. We cannot ever experience what women go through, we can only empathise. We cannot actually say this is how women feel.
Here I was making the film Masaan, which opens with a small town girl watching po*n. So, we got a focus group with 17 girls, all of them from small towns. All of them had watched po*n, and most of them had boyfriends. I was delighted to hear this because we always say that rural women are regressive and repressed."

On the current state of TV shows

"My mother and my sister used to watch Udaan (1989), and my sister was so inspired by that TV series. Then my mom would watch Saans, Rajani, and Surabhi. And here we are now, my mother is watching Udaan (2014), but it's a totally different show. We have TV shows like Naagin, which makes me wonder where have we regressed. TV shows are now so regressive that I want to go back and try to understand why this happened. This is my theory that the producers, the content creators, think that the class that we dish to, they like this. Whereas the actual people, they aren't so regressive. They want to see change, but they are like, 'Dikha rahe hain toh dekh lete hain.' This idea of what women are is a figment of the content creator's imagination, they think this is how actual women are like. These women (on TV) are always salwar kameez-clad and sanskari."


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On films that celebrate women

"We are celebrating films like Piku, and a lot of other women-centric films. It's all commerce. Feminism has become a brand, it sells. It makes a lot of sense to make them now."

On the responsibility of content creators

"As content creators in media - in television, in cinema, everywhere - it's very essential to have responsible content creation. It is very essential for us to present women with certain dignity.
There's a film I saw recently, where the wife got raped. After that the husband becomes the victim. She says, 'I totally understand given the things that has happened to me, if you want to walk away from the marriage. That's okay with me.' And there's not a word from the husband! So the next day, she commits suicide. This is why I spoke of responsibility, where they at least show women with dignity."


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On presenting women as human beings first

"It's very important that we normalise women. If the woman is going to office and doing great work, and then going back home, please don't say that's the epitome of what a feminist would do. It's normal. That's what a lot of women do. Let's normalise it, let's make them humans, then let's talk of feminism at all."
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Posted: 8 years ago
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He is delighted to hear small town girls are watching watch po*n?
He also admits he makes feminists films bcz it sells now, it has become a brand now... 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Betty---

He is delighted to hear small town girls are watching watch po*n?

He also admits he makes feminists films bcz it sells now, it has become a brand now... 😆


At least he is not a liar.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Woman watching po*n and having boyfriend means she isn't repressed?


Feminism these days is just that - a glossy brand - a very sensationalised one, is faux intellectual thanks to people who think like him.
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Originally posted by: Atomicbomb


At least he is not a liar.



True


But saying he is delighted that small town girls are watching po*n bcz that means they are not repressed

And upset that his mother and sister are watching curremt tv shows like udhan, nagin bcz they are regressive is funny and weird
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sach keh raha hai deewana.
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I was with him saying the true about how feminism has become a brand and it being commercialized with all the pseudo-feminist,but he lost me at his sub at kaabil, because maybe he stopped watching it after that or didn't listen after that she didn't kill herself for getting raped, she did cos it happened a second time and was going to be a repeated affair where they are helpless to the system, that's reality of oppressed people. and the husband apologized for how he behaved not a lot of people react right when something hits them, nothing as real as that.
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Well said...

On presenting women as human beings first

"It's very important that we normalise women. If the woman is going to office and doing great work, and then going back home, please don't say that's the epitome of what a feminist would do. It's normal. That's what a lot of women do. Let's normalise it, let's make them humans, then let's talk of feminism at all."
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He lost me at kaabil scene. I accept the content of TV have regressed. But watching po*n is indication of over sexualization of society and not feminism.

Also agree feminism has become brand and even normal routine of a female is branded as feminist activity. People have lost the importance of what it actually means. I am still not sure what Piku has to do with feminism? Is the fact that she had SWB relation that makes her feminist? I thought Piku explored father -daughter co-dependency and old age. Queen explored coming of age of sheltered person.
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Yes going to work need not be romanticized, Indian women from all walks of life have been doing it for decades now

In lower strata of society women have been doing jobs like maids... Women even participate in construction work... They work while pregnant, after delivery with little money, no baby sitter and nobody makes bid deal about it

And there truly is wage disparity there... I've heard male construction workers get paid higher than women although women do tough physical stuff many middle class men won't be able to do... Nobody fights for their rights...

It's only actresss and upper class women's non existent wage disparity everyone is worried about

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