BOI is on weed, calling Jodha akbar and ZNMD bad films :/

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Raees And Kaabil Box Office Verdicts
Thursday 09 February 2017 13.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network

The big clash between Kaabil and Raees is another clash where the films have not lived upto expectations with both films under performing. Raees has got away with it due to an excellent start and is a SEMI HIT while Kaabil is a failure and will be BELOW AVERAGE / FLOP depending on final share. Either way it makes little difference as its not a success. Raees also has a huge pot from Overseas to helps its cause and the Overseas share will in the 35-40 crore range. The combined figures will be a little better than the Ae Dil Hai Mushkil v Shivaay clash where the combined total was 190 crore nett and here it will go to 215 crore nett. But that was Ajay Devgn and Ranbir Kapoor and here it is Shahrukh Khan and Hrithik Roshan so a 25 crore nett gap is not much. Even the gap is due to Raees which will have a 25 crore nett higher total than the winner of that clash Ae Dil Hai Mushkil while Kaabil and Shivaay will be in same range.

Raees is another film which has not grossed like a Shahrukh Khan film but it keeps his unbelievable clash record intact. He is the star with probbaly the most clashes but comes out on top every time irrespective of content. There were some defeats in the earlier films but he was not a star then. The only setback came in 2001 when Indian beat Asoka but at that time Sunny Deol in the right film was always going to be tough nut to crack for anyone. The clashes include big victories against rivals Aamir Khan in 1995 (Ram Jaane v Akele Hum Akele Tum) and Salman Khan (Don v Jaan-E-Mann). In 2015 the Dilwale v Bajirao Mastani clash is seen as a defeat but if the wider picture is seen with Worldwide numbers its a comfortable victory for Dilwale and this was only due to the clout of Shahrukh Khan as the film was not liked. Even in India it would have been much closer if the intolerance debate did not happen at time of release which cost the film around 15% business. Shahrukh Khan has probably defeated every other major star out there in a clash.

Kaabil is a another downer for Hrithik Roshan and now the next film is very important as its not around the corner so when it comes it has to be a big one. In 2006 he was about to be undisputed superstar and leave the Khan's behind after Krrish and Dhoom 2 but doing poor films like Jodhaa Akbar and Zindagi Na Milegi Dobaraa cost him badly as Salman Khan reinvented and made the action space his own and there was no looking back for him.

The difference in stardom is so much that films like Dhoom 2 and Krrish did not open that much lower than Kaabil despite more than 60% less screens and half the ticket rates. Despite this they were just 25% less than Kaabil on the first day.






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Posted: 8 years ago
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so if ZNMD and Jodha akbar are poor films then how can Hrithik satisfy and impress BOI ? 🤣
I hope he reads this, he can have a good laugh
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think what BOI is saying is that he had the oppurtunity to connect with the masses on huge level but he started doing multiplex genre of movies (ZNMD is not for masses ) which hurt him. People started disconnecting with him . Bang bang did ok but then MJD made him away from the public.
Aamir does a talaash but then quickly he did dhoom 3 as well. So he did not lose his connect .

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anachronist

I think what BOI is saying is that he had the oppurtunity to connect with the masses on huge level but he started doing multiplex genre of movies (ZNMD is not for masses ) which hurt him. People started disconnecting with him . Bang bang did ok but then MJD made him away from the public.

Aamir does a talaash but then quickly he did dhoom 3 as well. So he did not lose his connect .


yeah but they could say the same thing in a better tone right ? they are outright tagging JA and ZNMD as bad films whereas these films are some milestones of HR's career. Dhoom 3 is a brand, if there would be any other hero in Aamir's place the film would work, and I am not saying Aamir has no contribution at all.

Jodha Akbar and ZNMD are the only box office successes of Ashutosh and zoya as directors, so I cannot believe how biased BOI is and how much it hates HR.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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You ignoring the very 1st line which is used for hrithik & no one else

In 2006, he was going to be undisputed SUPERSTAR to leave behind KHANS... who else has got that line, no one else.

You can debate on how good/bad ZNMD/Jodha Akbar kind of films, but they have actually dented Hrithik's pull among Audience.

Dhoom 2 was That Strongest Point, just 2 films more like that or Krrish kind & Boom - You get 4th KHAN... hell at that point he was 3rd Khan leaving the likes of Aamir Khan who surfaced in 2008.

I still believe Hrithik don't need Zoya or Ashutosh kind of filmmakers, whole career is ahead, he can do that kind of films later on. Just focus on his Strength, Have a Top Heroine, Bang on music (no Rajesh Roshan) like pritam / vishal, A Masala Entertainer... just give HIT, rest he will shoot up to higher levels automatically.

Audience never give this kind of chance to everyone, Ajay/Akki trying their blood & sweat but Audience don't love them that much as they love Khans & Hrithik... hope he gets it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Poor Choice of words from BOI's end , I for one never understood why this 2rs site got so much bhaav just because it under reported collections which looked fair when it wasn't about ones favorite otherwise they have their own biases like any of those trade analysts out there.
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Originally posted by: -RD-

Poor Choice of words from BOI's end , I for one never why this 2rs site got so much bhaav just because it under reported collections which looked fair when it wasn't about ones favorite


Film Industry can sue this site for reporting less figures, they can show in detail how much their films earn, no will does that means it has some weight.

Industry sell films, they knew from each Theatre how much income comes, every single penny, why the hell they don't give right figures & show how wrong BOI is.


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Originally posted by: .Lakhan.


Film Industry can sue this site for reporting less figures, they can show in detail how much their films earn, no will does that means it has some weight.

Industry sell films, they knew from each Theatre how much income comes, every single penny, why the hell they don't give right figures & show how wrong BOI is.




Film Industry doesn't care ultimately the producer's figures given by Tara/Komal are the ones that make way to TV channels and newspapers and those r the collections that stick in public memory so why would someone bother about BOI really it would pretty much be like BW peeps retweeting KRK or engaging in twitter conversations with him and legitimizing it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Lakhan.

You ignoring the very 1st line which is used for hrithik & no one else

In 2006, he was going to be undisputed SUPERSTAR to leave behind KHANS... who else has got that line, no one else.

You can debate on how good/bad ZNMD/Jodha Akbar kind of films, but they have actually dented Hrithik's pull among Audience.

Dhoom 2 was That Strongest Point, just 2 films more like that or Krrish kind & Boom - You get 4th KHAN... hell at that point he was 3rd Khan leaving the likes of Aamir Khan who surfaced in 2008.

I still believe Hrithik don't need Zoya or Ashutosh kind of filmmakers, whole career is ahead, he can do that kind of films later on. Just focus on his Strength, Have a Top Heroine, Bang on music (no Rajesh Roshan) like pritam / vishal, A Masala Entertainer... just give HIT, rest he will shoot up to higher levels automatically.

Audience never give this kind of chance to everyone, Ajay/Akki trying their blood & sweat but Audience don't love them that much as they love Khans & Hrithik... hope he gets it.


Bhai, about the first line, if that is something true then BOI is not doing a favor by calling Hrithik somebody who can compete the Khans. But the choice of words for films like ZNMD and Jodha akbar, these are some of his best work and Hrithik successfully pulled off something which probably other super stars would fail. even if you consider Agneepath, a remake, no other star was successful with an Amitabh bachchan remake but Hrithik was. problem is BOI never credits Hrithik for his successful films, and aaj toh hadd hogayi.

and honestly i have always felt that Dhoom2 was nver a mass film, it was a plex film but it worked
and dented Abhi's career.


I agree, Hrithik should start doing more films, he can do it if he wants, but he is lazy and he does not even want to go to the point of desperation. hope kabir khan film is happening, it will be a good move for him


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Originally posted by: -RD-



Film Industry doesn't care ultimately the producer's figures given by Tara/Komal are the ones that make way to TV channels and newspapers and those r the collections that stick in public memory so why would someone bother about BOI really it would pretty much be like BW peeps retweeting KRK or engaging in twitter conversations with him and legitimizing it.


Producers are exposed, 1st it was krrish 3's huge inflation, now recently Shivaay, to make it worse, now 2 big films with big names doing inflation.

Media has stopped quoting Taran/Kamal. Now BOI is being used as barometer for authenticity. Slowly you will see others also following same route.

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