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Posted: 8 years ago
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The last few episodes set me thinking on why marriages fail.The numerous common reasons like outside interference,lack of communication,lack of honesty ,trust etc, are undoubtedly big factors.
But what surprises me is that in a lot of failed /shaky marriages,the spouses ironically start abhorring the very same traits which they madly loved in a person.


Watching KRPKAB ver 2 reinforced my existing belief .Sona loved Dev because she saw a man who was extremely affectionate towards his family ,especially his mom.Here was a man who lived and breathed for his family..Ultimately,it was this very same "quality" that led to the two of them breaking up.

Dev loved Sona's independent thinking and her ability to stand up to him when everyone else either fawned on him or cowered around him.She was a breath of fresh air and spoke her mind.She was neither overwhelmed nor intimidated by him.Ultimately ,it was this very quality of hers that proved too much for him to handle.

I have seen this happening in many real life marriages too...I have seen men loving women because they were ambitious ,independent,beautiful,vivacious,simple,interested in looking after a home etc..The list is endless..Ultimately,these very traits get on their nerves...The ambition and independence is not suitable for family life;the beautiful and vivacious woman invokes suspicion and jealousy in the man;the simple homemaker becomes too dependent and a drag .

Ditto for women..They love a man for his honesty,the way he cares for his family and respects them,his hardworking diligent nature,his soft spoken nature,his calmness,his looks and personality,...Over time,the man who cares and listens to his family too much starts getting on the woman's nerves ,his honesty comes across as insensitive rudeness,his diligence becomes workaholism,his soft spoken nature makes him a wimp,his calmness makes him indifferent and uncaring and his looks and personality makes her doubt if he is cheating on her.

I realise that one of the reasons for this is that each person is primarily defined by some major characteristics/qualities.It makes us what we are.Every quality has two sides- the nice and rosy side and the rough and negative side.Initially we only see the rosy side,but over a period of time we see the negative side of the same trait and we start disliking them for the same reason that we loved them...Ironical..

My questions are
1)Why do many spouses start disliking the very quality that drew them towards each other?
2)Why are human beings unable to see the other side of such qualities/traits in the initial period?
3)Do you know of any such marriages/have any experiences to share?

Would love to know your views
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Such a beautiful and Profound Topic. I am in no means an expert on marriages ..but since I have been married for 30 years maybe can give some insight.

My thoughts in maroon


Originally posted by: rock&roll

The last few episodes set me thinking on why marriages fail.The numerous common reasons of outside interference,lack of communication,lack of honesty ,trust etc, are undoubtedly big factors.

But what surprises me is that in a lot of failed /shaky marriages,the spouses ironically start abhorring the very same traits for which they madly loved a person.

When two people are in love everything is looked at with Rose tinted glasses..where the mind sees what it wants to see and kind of ignores what it does not want to..but when they start living together they start seeing the whole picture. But if there is communication , trust and respect we can openly discuss the factors that irritate us as long as the other person is willing to listen to it with an open mind

Watching KRPKAB ver 2 reinforced my existing belief .Sona loved Dev because she saw a man who was extremely affectionate towards his family ,especially his mom.Here was a man who lived and breathed for his family..Ultimately,it was this very same "quality" that led to the two of them breaking up.


Yes Sona loved Dev because of him being a family man ..as a family man he always stood up for his family. What changed ? Sona became his family too.. Did Dev treat her like one?.. or did he try to
a. Keep his relationship with her separate?
b. Want her to conform to his mothers idea or Dixit's idea of a family?

Here was the disconnect..and since they did not communicate a break down happened

Dev loved Sona's independent thinking and her ability to stand up to him when everyone else either fawned on him or cowered around him.She was a breath of fresh air and spoke her mind.She was neither overwhelmed nor intimidated by him.Ultimately ,it was this very quality of hers that proved too much for him to handle.

Dev loved her being independent , but only as far as her job..but not when it came down to his family and Life. We cant expect Independence and say I like you when you are independent in certain aspects of your life and in others I want you to toe the line.. That is a disconnect..

So in essence accept the WHOLE not the parts you conveniently like or want..

I have seen this happening in many real life marriages too...I have seen men loving women because they were ambitious ,independent,beautiful,vivacious,simple,interested in looking after a home etc..The list is endless..Ultimately,these very traits get on their nerves...The ambition and independence is not suitable for family life;the beautiful and vivacious woman invokes suspicion and jealousy in the man;the simple homemaker becomes too dependent and a drag .

Ditto for women..They love a man for his honesty,the way he cares for his family and respects them,his hardworking diligent nature,his soft spoken nature,his calmness,his looks and personality,...Over time,the man who cares and listens to his family too much starts getting on the woman's nerves ,his honesty comes across as insensitive rudeness,his diligence becomes workaholism,his soft spoken nature makes him a wimp,his calmness makes him indifferent and uncaring and his looks and personality makes her doubt if he is cheating on her.

I realise that one of the reasons for this is that each person is primarily defined by some major characteristics/qualities.It makes us what we are.Every quality has two sides- the nice and rosy side and the rough and negative side.Initially we only see the rosy side,but over a period of time we see the negative side of the same trait and we start disliking them for the same reason that we loved them...Ironical..

My questions are
1)Why do many spouses start disliking the very quality that drew them towards each other?

Because there is NO WholeheartedAcceptance of the Whole flaws and everything
2)Why are human beings unable to see the other side of such qualities/traits in the initial period?

We always put our best foot forward when we are trying to impress..but once we have achieved what we want we dont anymore..that is human nature but marriage is an evolving process where the ceremony is not the End but just a beginning..how can you keep it alive COMMUNICATION AND BALANCE which both of them sorely lack

3)Do you know of any such marriages/have any experiences to share?

I have seen marriages break for a lot less and marriages survive against all odds.. for any marriage to work BOTH have to constantly make efforts one alone cannot make it work..For it DOES TAKE TWO TO TANGO TO BEAUTIFUL MUSIC

Hope I made sense

Great topic

Would love to know your views

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Brilliant topic n wonderfully explained...
Both have to take eachothers POV as positive or the way the spouse's intentions are..
Taking everything n every conversation negative can lead to a living hell for both of them...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Great post and wonderful thoughts. Sabita ji gave a solid explanation too.
In my limited capability, would like to share my two cents on this topic.

I have been in a long love relationship of many years which did not materialise. I hold my ex responsible for it - the loss was his. I had my flaws, but I consider him to have far more flaws and mistakes he made in this failed relationship. I am not sure why he chose me, but I chose him for the same reason why Sona chose Dev - he was an honorable family man with great love and respect for women. But when I realised the chauvinism in him and how he wanted me to abide by his line of thought about family values, I felt stifled. Also, the same guy was so engrossed in his family and kept his family issues /concerns and commitments above our relationship, that it made me feel being taken for granted.
So I spoke, tried to communicate my thoughts and my concerns to him many times but they never got addressed. And to top it, we had incompatibility issues with regards to my professional ambitions.

On the other hand, in 5 years of my marriage, I couldn't have asked for a better husband - because of open communication and immense respect for each other's ambitions in life. Undying support to each other and not letting anyone take priority over our relationship has been the key to our successful marriage (so far).

In summation, I would say marriages fail when people don't give importance to desires and ambitions of their spouse in equal measure. It's a balancing act and whenever you are thrown off balance, the other has to help you get back on track. But the first step has to be taken from the one who tumbled. Zeal to make it work has to come from both partners.




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Posted: 8 years ago
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I have also seen such marriages but it survive only at the cost women forget themselves
And when you will ask them then will even justified themselves and will even tell they r happy and content
In today world where male and society exist it's very hard for woman to live their life
And we can't change it nor can anyone
People r saying this is 21st century we have developed and this that but they even don't know they r on the same page where they were before
So it's very hard to change mindset because root will always with the tree how much branches tee would have or how much tall or high the branches are without root it will die
So it is somewhere necessary to comprise but there is a limit and if it is crossed then they have to be broken
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Posted: 8 years ago
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A couple first needs is patience to calm down .
If one is hyper one should be calm and listen but both hyper things won't sort out .
Fights happen in all couples without it's not marriage.
Couple needs to adjust and go with the flow ego aside respecting each other space .
Few couple rip when family are barging in like sisters and mother in law it's strange women's are own enemies .

If couple can't sort out look for counseling.
Plan a small trip because life is so hard .
If couple have babies think for themselves than ur self .
Ego is the biggest grid in a marriage to fail set ego aside .
Balancing helps
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautiful subject n superb questions
Standing ovation for an amazing post!

This show is an open insight to this question?
Thank u for this post.. I tel u am fed up supporting one or defending one at any cost..
Me no advocate of Dev or sona but only love.. which I had seen in Devakshi but that wasn't enough!!

Now to ur Q

I can give u answer from my life -

1) Marry only when ur able to be responsible
Frankly Devakshi marriage was untimely n both were not prepared for it
Kabhi fursath mein bataoongi its details

When 2 people r not ready such things are bound to happen

2) communication is must but it shud not be provoking but be wise n not vulnerable
Words that come out of ur mouth in anger is a subconscious one that is fed into them.
Never speak when ur angry.
Devakshi again did that n still provoking n taunting


3) ego should be kept away coz that's loving urself n real love is sacrificial
There is no u n me.. its we n ours...equal partnership
Clap is wen 2 hands hit each other .. so if a marriage fails it's mutual or if it is successful again it's mutual
Devakshi 2.0 is everything but love I.e ego n Devakshi 1.0 was more of love but ego

4) balancing life is beneficial as ur added with more responsibility n new members are joined suddenly as families who are not blood related.. so it's being more human accommodating.. so increase ur tolerance factor.. as they might not be of ur taste..
Learn to ignore than ignite !

Hope I make sense to u 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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There are so many countless reasons for every couple who has a failed marriage the reason is unique and different.

I better think it happened because these two people were not meant to be together, though couples are made in heaven and marriages are celebrated on earth among human beings, who are not perfect so the marriage was a mistake.(MY POV)
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Posted: 8 years ago
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My 20 years of marriage has taught me that it is very important that as a couple you determine the boundaries of your marriage and make it clear that no one can cross those boundaries, not even parents.When the family understands that you are a team, then nothing can separate you.Dev often gave mixed messages He agreed to arrange his cupboard before Sonakshi, then asked his Mom to do it! Wrong message! Giving job to Vicky, wrong message! Not standing up against Mami, wrong message!While Ishwari is the main culprit, Dev is at a greater fault for not setting the boundaries. People barging in to their room at all times, trying to please all are just a couple of examples. While Sonakshi is the mature one, the patient one; sometimes you just have had it. At that point when there was a rift between Bejoy and Ishwari due to money, She could have handled it a bit differently by first getting on the same page with Dev. While I love my parents a lot, sometimes in the initial days of marriage just for the sake of keeping the relationship alive, you have to be the bigger person. Unfortunately Women are more mature! Some ground rules had to be laid! For that open communication was necessary. Instead they let money,other people take over their relationship! In a marriage there is Lakshman Rekha. Never let anyone , even your own children or parents cross that and enter your side of the boundary. I hope they show Sona and Dev uniting soon and show how they do things right this time around! That would be the real end of the show! I hope they don't just show them uniting after another 2 years and say The End! Then where is the growth ? Where are the lessons learnt?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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In limited words, marriage is boat to be sailed by two... in all weather conditions...

But if both of you allow the distance to grow to a extent that a 3rd can climb on, it will rock the boat...

3rd could be anyone...from mother in law, sister in law or the other woman...

No one should be allowed to enter that sacred space and bilateral issues MUST be resolved or tackled or suffered bilaterally...


Originally posted by: rock&roll

The last few episodes set me thinking on why marriages fail.The numerous common reasons of outside interference,lack of communication,lack of honesty ,trust etc, are undoubtedly big factors.

But what surprises me is that in a lot of failed /shaky marriages,the spouses ironically start abhorring the very same traits for which they madly loved a person.


Watching KRPKAB ver 2 reinforced my existing belief .Sona loved Dev because she saw a man who was extremely affectionate towards his family ,especially his mom.Here was a man who lived and breathed for his family..Ultimately,it was this very same "quality" that led to the two of them breaking up.

Dev loved Sona's independent thinking and her ability to stand up to him when everyone else either fawned on him or cowered around him.She was a breath of fresh air and spoke her mind.She was neither overwhelmed nor intimidated by him.Ultimately ,it was this very quality of hers that proved too much for him to handle.

I have seen this happening in many real life marriages too...I have seen men loving women because they were ambitious ,independent,beautiful,vivacious,simple,interested in looking after a home etc..The list is endless..Ultimately,these very traits get on their nerves...The ambition and independence is not suitable for family life;the beautiful and vivacious woman invokes suspicion and jealousy in the man;the simple homemaker becomes too dependent and a drag .

Ditto for women..They love a man for his honesty,the way he cares for his family and respects them,his hardworking diligent nature,his soft spoken nature,his calmness,his looks and personality,...Over time,the man who cares and listens to his family too much starts getting on the woman's nerves ,his honesty comes across as insensitive rudeness,his diligence becomes workaholism,his soft spoken nature makes him a wimp,his calmness makes him indifferent and uncaring and his looks and personality makes her doubt if he is cheating on her.

I realise that one of the reasons for this is that each person is primarily defined by some major characteristics/qualities.It makes us what we are.Every quality has two sides- the nice and rosy side and the rough and negative side.Initially we only see the rosy side,but over a period of time we see the negative side of the same trait and we start disliking them for the same reason that we loved them...Ironical..

My questions are
1)Why do many spouses start disliking the very quality that drew them towards each other?
2)Why are human beings unable to see the other side of such qualities/traits in the initial period?
3)Do you know of any such marriages/have any experiences to share?

Would love to know your views

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