Why Tv shows make Helena a vamp?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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i have lost interest in Indiaforums long back. since no historical or mythological shows held my interest anymore due to too much distortion. I was not following chandra-nandini too as i knew they also will have nothing to do with History and it will be just jodha-Akbar season 2 by Ekta mata.
I was an avid follower of Chandragupta Maurya of Imagine TV and i learnt not to expect history from makers anymore.

Here i got all glories of Dhanananda is given to his father Padmananda who accordint to timeline should have been dead by the time. anyway seems there had been a poetic justice with cruel Dhananand that someone stripped all his fame too.

but what forced me to come back I-F after eons is portrayal of Helena. After color's ashoka made her vamp again Ekta maiya followed the same path and on the way to make her Ruqaiya part-2 but why?
she was Greek thats why she had to be evil? i am damn sure she will poison Durdhara

I wonder whats thevreason. If we follow history Cornelia or popularly known Helena was more of a victim. Chandragupta was late 30's (if we go by 340 B.c as CGM birth year and anytime between 305-300 BC as time of CGM & Helena marriage) when Helena was married to him as form of some political alliance after CGM defeated Selucas . So helena will be maximum 20 and so there is almost 20 years age gap between the two. And ofcourse she didn't get that honor of a queen in maurya court. and in 298 b.C CGM converted in jainism and retired. And no mention of Helena was heard afterwards. Only one source i read Chanakya didn't acknowledge Helena's right in favor of Bindu and so she left to her father's kingdom. Its doubtful whether she mothered any son or not. if yes that boy wont be like Justin of Ashoka show rather almost same age of Ashoka.

anyways if we see Helena's pov her life would have been miserable. at first married to a much older king of different religion culture society and language and then not be accepted by their ppl or given any right.
so why all makers like to destroy her image? it looks like she is an easy target to make vamp.

anyway as per the show is concerned i liked both Durdhara and Helena. though Helena actress looks older than Rajat but well she looks pretty and Durdhara is very cute. both have good chemistry with Rajat. as per Rajat as CGM is concerned though i liked Ashish Sharma as CGM i will say age wise Rajat looks more apt for CGM as now CGM is 19-20. Durdhara is childhood friend of CGM here? anyway its pretty

coming to CGM's never existing amar prem gatha Nandini. (i don't care if anyone takes offence this love story is completely fictional). I barely recognized Shweta. she is award winning actress and here i wonder is she same cute little girl of Kahani Ghar Ghar Ki , Makree , Iqbal and a Bengali movie as well. What happened to her. I don't want to sound hateful , i loved her acting as a talented child but she annoying me to the limit or may be her character that it.

acc to History Chandragupta married Dhanananda's daughter (whose name is assumed as nandini.) but it was only in Chanakya's pressure. if Ekta maiya had to bring a Jodha why didn't she make a love story on Chandragupta and Helena? that would have been more interesting and apt to history because of the difference between them. i know as Durdhara will die so they can't make a ChanDhara love story.

and so now Bindusar will be concieved becoz nandini had hurt Chandu's ego.. In this way nandini is reason of Bindu's birth? how much more ridiculous it could be.

btw Parvatak's son mallaketu became CGM's ally right? and was not Parvatak's daughter kalyani married to Ambhi? why they didn't show Ambhi? anyway who was the actor that played Alexander? Ekta did much better job finding a suitable actor for alexander and other Greek casts.

all in all i decided to ignore history and enjoy only Chandragupt and Durdhara and Chandragupt and Helena scenes as much they give. Nandini simply doesn't exist for me. i might like to see that poor soul Dhanananda who is made a pitiful side kick of his healthy wife who is supposed to be a comic relief

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Posted: 8 years ago
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A wonderful post. What most of us have done here to maintain our sanity,is to try our best to not expect logic or accuracy. Nandini is fictional,period.
Helena so far,so good. I am praying with all my heart that she doesn't follow the usual path the supposed 'other' woman takes in every Ekta show.

And speaking Shweta,what can I say. Balaji's team needs to understand that character sketch is extremely important. Flawed characters are not hated,infact they are appreciated,provided they are written well enough.

Nandini is neither white,nor black,nor as most people assumed,grey. She is none. She is a hodgepodge of all possible colours,has essence of none.

When the character itself is this badly written,I don't think Shweta can do much.

This is what happens with BT. People start disliking the actors too because of badly written script.

I ask myself each day,why am I watching this show. I have not found an answer.

Rajat has been great. But his character too has started deteriorating (Did u see yesterday's episode? Chandra has sex because Nandini kept tormenting his subconscious mind by calling him 'Namard'. also,his guru forced him to produce offsprings.)

I cannot even bring myself to compare it to Imagine's CGM,because that was highly character driven.

While this show more or less feeds on the grandeur and awe that comes with a historical show.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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yes i saw and thats why i am praying no trp monger PH ever makes any historical show further and ofcourse mythological shows too.
i am CGM was such a weak personality that he can't take a brainless girl's blabbering and have sex? and Chanakya needed to force CGM to give a heir. for heaven's shake CGM is first emperor ofAkhand bharat not a puppet.
Chanakya was a guide he was not a control freak. i can't help but remember Manish Wadwa's Chanakya of Imagine CGM. he was a mentor and a father figure and also a friend to CGM. it was evident Chanakya deeply cared for CGM and h was just not a tool to fulfill his dream. Ashoka's Chanakya was a good actor too but very much control freak and this show's chanakya is good actor. he was awesome as dadhichi of DKDM. but he now looks more a conspirator than a teacher. looks like he is still not out of Khalnatak of Ashoka's influence.
damn i miss the brilliant relation between Chanakya and CGM that was essence of CGM story.

coming to Shweta no i don't hate her. i have seen her award winning works. But i definitely think all the controversies (hope everyone knows about her arrest and the scandal though it might be false accusation) had a toll on her acting skill. I want her to recover definitely.
As for nandini i would have still bear her if she was made Dhanananda's daughter . At least a percent of history had been maintained then. but making her sister of Dhanananda made her a fully fictional character. And so i simply don't acknowledge her existence.
i know Imagine's CGM too didn't follow history fully. but sagar's atleast used to try to correct mistakes. Once they brought an imaginary character Mriganayani for CGM but we protested so much they had to follow history by making her Dhanananda's bed mate and finally killing her character.
i don't expect Ekta to follow history but as historylover and history student it hurts. specially CGM and CGM-Helena has special place in my heart.
I am saying since Durdhara will die , Helena is saving grace of the show mark my word.

i wonder one thing. Chandragupt's story's major part was to be the samrat of Akhand Bharat. by killing nanda it will be accomplished . and this major part which could take 1 year is covered in 1 month. Durdhara will die soon as Bindu is already conceived. (i am assured Chandy wont do sex with her anymore) . history wise after becoming emperor only major event was defeating Selucas that leads marriage to Helena. Now this part is already covered as Helena is married to him. and soon after killing nanda Nandini will be his queen too.. i assume whole bindu born durdhara death chandini marriage will take one or maximum a couple of months. Then what will they show for rest 1 or 2 years? (going by Ekta's shows duration). I mean whole time only chandini romance and helena's vampgiri? coz after this the major event was CGM's retirement. that surely won't happen soon.

atleast Akbar had thousand event in lifetime which even half was not covered by JA. but CGM life 80% events are covered.now what they will show? Vishkanya tracks?conspiracy? like Ashoka? whatever.

i only want helena and chandu get some romantic scenes but can't have much hope.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Patrarekha

i have lost interest in Indiaforums long back. since no historical or mythological shows held my interest anymore due to too much distortion. I was not following chandra-nandini too as i knew they also will have nothing to do with History and it will be just jodha-Akbar season 2 by Ekta mata.

I was an avid follower of Chandragupta Maurya of Imagine TV and i learnt not to expect history from makers anymore.

Here i got all glories of Dhanananda is given to his father Padmananda who accordint to timeline should have been dead by the time. anyway seems there had been a poetic justice with cruel Dhananand that someone stripped all his fame too.

but what forced me to come back I-F after eons is portrayal of Helena. After color's ashoka made her vamp again Ekta maiya followed the same path and on the way to make her Ruqaiya part-2 but why?
she was Greek thats why she had to be evil? i am damn sure she will poison Durdhara

Please do not give ideas to CVs they may really make her poison dhuradhara and put blame on nandini and finally when cgm knows his love for nandini jaag gaya


I wonder whats thevreason. If we follow history Cornelia or popularly known Helena was more of a victim. Chandragupta was late 30's (if we go by 340 B.c as CGM birth year and anytime between 305-300 BC as time of CGM & Helena marriage) when Helena was married to him as form of some political alliance after CGM defeated Selucas . So helena will be maximum 20 and so there is almost 20 years age gap between the two. And ofcourse she didn't get that honor of a queen in maurya court. and in 298 b.C CGM converted in jainism and retired. And no mention of Helena was heard afterwards. Only one source i read Chanakya didn't acknowledge Helena's right in favor of Bindu and so she left to her father's kingdom. Its doubtful whether she mothered any son or not. if yes that boy wont be like Justin of Ashoka show rather almost same age of Ashoka.

Chankya made CGM promise that helena son will not be heir and chandragupta promise that. Anyways helena son was much smaller to bindusara. So how will he come heir? All woman were victims in that time mostly they wee bratered in marriage for saving fathers and brothers kingdoms. Yes helena must have been forced to marry CGM but she adjusted learnt indian culture, learned sanskrit and indian classical music etc so she accepted and adjusted may be that is why chandra loved her. Yes she left to greece and died there. Anyways chandra took sanyas and died fasting, bindusara was busy in running kingdom and wars, chankya too had died and her son was treated as outsider without many rights. And she was young when chandra left her in her early 30s so she must be lonely and left to be with her own fathers family and died there only. I am sure since she is greek and an outsider once chandra left no one must have bothered about her and she felt lonely and discriminated and just left to spend remaining life in her birth country.

Reminds me of Ruqaiah begum of Akbar, again childless and husband had so many wives etc did not have much time so she wanted to bury with her father hindal and grandfather babur in kabul not in agra with akbar. Why not? you want to be buried to next to persons who loved you most in world(not ones whom you loved) in this case parents

anyways if we see Helena's pov her life would have been miserable. at first married to a much older king of different religion culture society and language and then not be accepted by their ppl or given any right.

so why all makers like to destroy her image? it looks like she is an easy target to make vamp.

Its easy to make foreigners villans as even todaay in indai we consider europeans/americans as morally loose character especially woman because of their dress etc

anyway as per the show is concerned i liked both Durdhara and Helena. though Helena actress looks older than Rajat but well she looks pretty and Durdhara is very cute. both have good chemistry with Rajat. as per Rajat as CGM is concerned though i liked Ashish Sharma as CGM i will say age wise Rajat looks more apt for CGM as now CGM is 19-20. Durdhara is childhood friend of CGM here? anyway its pretty

coming to CGM's never existing amar prem gatha Nandini. (i don't care if anyone takes offence this love story is completely fictional). I barely recognized Shweta. she is award winning actress and here i wonder is she same cute little girl of Kahani Ghar Ghar Ki , Makree , Iqbal and a Bengali movie as well. What happened to her. I don't want to sound hateful , i loved her acting as a talented child but she annoying me to the limit or may be her character that it.

acc to History Chandragupta married Dhanananda's daughter (whose name is assumed as nandini.) but it was only in Chanakya's pressure. if Ekta maiya had to bring a Jodha why didn't she make a love story on Chandragupta and Helena? that would have been more interesting and apt to history because of the difference between them. i know as Durdhara will die so they can't make a ChanDhara love story.

and so now Bindusar will be concieved becoz nandini had hurt Chandu's ego.. In this way nandini is reason of Bindu's birth? how much more ridiculous it could be.

ha ha you just wait nandini will become yashoda for bindusara seeing that chandargupta will melt like burning candle and become slave of nandini. he will forget helena, chankya, mura all and listen only to nandini in future be ready. The cvs forget chadra had two sons of dhurudhara and before he married nandini and that bindusara was brought up by a dai ma not by any of his wives 😡


btw Parvatak's son mallaketu became CGM's ally right? and was not Parvatak's daughter kalyani married to Ambhi? why they didn't show Ambhi? anyway who was the actor that played Alexander? Ekta did much better job finding a suitable actor for alexander and other Greek casts.

all in all i decided to ignore history and enjoy only Chandragupt and Durdhara and Chandragupt and Helena scenes as much they give. Nandini simply doesn't exist for me. i might like to see that poor soul Dhanananda who is made a pitiful side kick of his healthy wife who is supposed to be a comic relief

Edited by myviewprem - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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yaar, Chandra & nandini's wedding will happen within no time and it is really impossible for Durdhara to give birth to Bindu so soon as today will the last day of Padmanand and after that to save her family (ladies to the most), Nandini might agree to marry Chandra (also to take revenge). So who knows, if Chandra can sleep with his friend (though wife, he was treating her as friend alone) just because his guru asked him to sleep with her and produce a son. (how confidant was Chanakya that it will be a fertile embryo in one shot?) Offcourse we should believe because the night he was not even guaranteed to live but morning he was ready to battle the war, so this Chandra is too strong to be ignored. So is it Chanakya who asked him to wear the war shield while entering the bedroom to save his disciple?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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true prem sad ook how rukiya was made a wamp and she was responsible of giving salim drugs and brought shame to mughal empire a daughter in law would have done all those things but she was mughal herself yet they showed it here helena will be exat same way too bad makers cant think beyond
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with ur entire post..
Though I won't talk anything about Nandini now because she is a victim of certain circumstances. But I did loved her in a telugu movie named Kotha Bangaaru Lokam. She was amazing in that.

Let's see how the story turns out. I have made my mind accept the fact that since its Ekta's show, it will have only 0.1% history

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