The Patliputra Chronicles (5): The Day of the Underdog

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Shyamala aunty I am playing truant today. I just could not resist making this post on the fifth episode. I was waiting for you to first make the post and was intending to reply to it. But I cannot hold up anymore. It was the best among all the episodes we have seen till now. At last it was the day when an underdog not only spoke, but also challenged the existing power structure and won.

Chandra arrives at Patliputra and Mura senses it in the gently wafting breeze blowing around her and the brilliant moonshine. She recalls the night of Chandra's birth and speaks to the letters she has etched on the ground as though she would to her son and says,"Chandra you were also born on one such brilliant moonlit night. My instinct tells me that we are going to meet each other soon!"Her instinct is not wrong either because the next shot we are shown in of Chandra entering the boundaries of Patliputra.

On the other hand, Chanakya also arrives at Patliputra with the background music of 'Asatoma Sadgamaya' playing on as he applies a tilak on his forehead applying the mud or matti of his motherland, Magadh. He meets his old school mate who is now a minister in Padmanand's cabinet. He is the same hunchbacked guy whom we saw with Amatya Rakshas and the Senapati Vakranaas whom Chandra and his friends had earlier raided.

We see two men from the same Alma Mater but with diverging viewpoints. The first sought his own professional betterment and career advancement by joining the existing king's cabinet while the other was least bothered about professional laurels or achievements. To him knowledge was not a means to an end but an end in itself. Chanakya's friend smiles and says, "You have not changed even one bit. You're still the same!" To this Chanakya just quips, "You wanted to serve a king but I have the ability to make a king if I will it!" None of them go any further into this discussion and leave it hanging at that point as it is irrelevant to the topic of their actual intention of meeting each other.

Chanakya requests his friend to get him an entry pass into Patliputra. The man tells that getting him an entry pass is not an issue but he feels that Padmanand may not take Chanakya's words in the right spirit as he hates Brahmins.

Then we get our standard Nand and Mura scene where Nand comes again to seek Mura's love and get insulted by her. It got me thinking what actual charms does a middle-aged Mura hold for a man like Nand? It is not love? Neither is it lust? This man must be having hundreds in his harems by now to beat Mura in beauty and youth! Even if Mura consents now, he must have known by now that he can only have her body but not her loyalties. My only conclusion from this is that Mura holds the fascination and charm that any unattainable thing holds for a human being. The hankering for a fruit beyond one's reach!

But by now even Nand's patience had wearied off! He orders his soldiers to take Mura to the town square and get her flogged in public. Mura again repeats herself like a stuck record player of how her son will avenge her! What else could the poor lady do but hold on to the last bit of straw for hope. She just left Chandra as a newborn. What was the guarantee that he had survived? But as they say 'Duniya umeed par kayam hai!' A person does not die as long as he has hope left. It is only when even hope dies that he has nothing to live for. This lady still has some hope, her son, and that's why she gets the courage to face everything coming her way. I really want to see a day when Nand is bereft of all hope. That would be the most perfect punishment for him before his death. To feel that there is nothing to remain alive and experience living hell and wish for death as a relief is the correct poetic justice for such a criminal like Nand!

The scene after this instantly shifts to Chandra thinking about the strange feeling of presentiment he is getting on setting foot in Patliputra. He ponders on what kind of strange connection do I have with this place? After this he witnesses several things which shock him out of his wits. He is totally disillusioned and disoriented by what he sees in the town square of Patliputra.

A man is being flogged and thrashed for not parting with his hard earned wealth by the soldiers. This sets little Chandra thinking, "What kind of state is this? What kind of king rules this state?" There is not even a semblance of some kind of administration present anywhere around him. There is no law and order of any sort. Everywhere he turns around, he finds the same scene, the weak getting exploited by the powerful.

Mura is led into the town square just then. The people are told that she is a traitor and her husband murdered the previous king and that Nand has ordered her to be stoned by the general public. Nobody even stops to think. Nand is highly unpopular and also cruel as a king but his orders are instantly followed and complied with by everyone the minute he says so without any pre- thought displaying mob and herd mentality of the worst kind.

Chandra barges in and tries to drive some sense in but in vain. They are saved by the announcement of the passage of Nandini's chariot the same way from further harm. There is a glance of smoldering hatred in Chandra's eyes for Nandini though for no fault of hers because she is a visual symbol of the decadent royalty. This exorbitant luxury that lives off the blood and sweat of its people without giving anything back to the people puts him off.

This utter lack of social responsibility displayed by the ruling king amaze and shock him to the core. It is almost similar to a mosquito or a parasite living off another person's blood and hard work. There is a searing anger in him to put things right if he can. But to do Chandra justice, he assumes that these things are happening behind the king's back and that he must be unaware or ignorant of all this.

His feelings are similar to what thousands and thousands of French citizens must have felt against the injustices and inequalities in their society hundreds and hundreds of years later during the French Revolution. The feeling of being exploited without getting one own due is very terrible. It keeps on simmering beneath the surface until it bursts open one fine day like a volcano. All great revolutions in history begin like this with a single spark which eventually turns into a blazing forest fire with the passage of time.

After this, both Chandra and Chanakya are standing in the line to gain admittance into the royal court of Magadh. When the soldiers refuse to let Chandra in even after seeing the Rajnandini coin given by Amatya Rakshas, he cooly and boldly stands his ground. In a steadily rising voice that becomes a shout by the time it ends, he asks to soldiers to ask Amatya Rakshas if he gave him this coin and also get ready for the punishment of not letting him in contrary to the intentions of the Chief Minister. Chanakya and his students are impressed.

Then comes the Nandini Tuladhan scene. Chandra' s coin sways the scale. Nand asks him who he is and how he got the coin to which he answers that Amatya Rakshas gave it to him. This is seconded by the words of AR himself who also recommends that he be inducted in the Magadh army. So far so good. Chandra begins enlightening Nand on the sorry state of affairs in his kingdom under the assumption that he is ignorant of all this. Nandini is duly dispatched inside and Nand clarifies that everything is happening according to his orders. Chandra is disenchanted that the root of all the evils he saw is Nand himself.

Nand asks Chandra to get lost. Another day he would perhaps have killed him but today being his daughter's birthday, he will give him an opportunity to escape. He says, "I give you five minutes! Run before my soldiers catch you! If they do, I will imprison you!"

Chandra has a quick repartee to this, "If they can't catch me in five minutes will you return all this wealth to the people?" Nand has no option but to accept this challenge to save a loss of face. Chandra wins the challenge but Nand goes back on his words and tells that there was no challenge in the first place and that all this is just a game for his entertainment.

Even here Chandra gets the last word by telling there is no use talking to one who cannot even keep up his words. Nand could keep all this wealth as it means nothing to him now. Chandra had won both the battle of brawns and wits beating Nand in his own game fair and square. He walks out with his head held up high and a dare devil attitude as though Nand did not deserve to be even his shatru and that he had wasted his time on an incompentent foe.

There could not have been a more resounding victory of the underdog. Not only was his voice heard but the powerful king was completely ground to dust in this encounter. Surely it was the day of the underdog. If there was a proud and paternal smile curling up Chanakya's lips and his eyes dancing with abandon and glee, I would not blame him. Chandra was so adorable and at the same time magnetic. Who could help being drawn and influenced by such a talented boy.

The next day, we have the Chanakya Apman scene. Chanakya barges into the court, apologizes for his intrusion but tells that he had to do so as this matter could not wait and starts off in full eloquence about a danger looming over the whole of Central India in the form of the foreign invader, Sikander and how it was imperative to devise an effective war strategy to deal with the situation and how he had one. He spreads out his map at a handy table in front of him and is about to proceed when he observes that his audience reaction is not what he would like it to be. He stops in his tracks. The vibes he gets is the kind any artiste or speaker would get before an audience intending to throw rotten eggs or rotten tomatoes.

Nand interrupts him and asks who he is to which Chanakya states his testimonials. Nand is unimpressed and tells who are you to tell me what I should do. Chanakya tells that this is a serious matter and he is not here for his own personal benefit. Nand is amused and tells that he is nothing but a comedian and insults Chanakya by throwing coins over him for the entertainment and catches hold of his shikha and chucks him out.

Chanakya is furious by now and retorts that just like Ravan he is inviting his own destruction. He vows to destroy him and tie up his shikha after drenching it in his blood just like Draupadi. Nand is unfazed and amused. He dismisses the entire episode as a case of dogs barking behind the back of an elephant. The soldiers drag Chanakya away and throw him in a heap at the outskirts of Patliputra.

Chanakya is hurt and bleeding. He gets up and realizes that a wild boar is about to attack him and takes a step backward after observing the blood oozing from his temples that is attracting the boar. Chandra leaps in between and fights the boar. He is furiously hurled off twice but Chandra is not the least bit scared or afraid. He doesn't even heed Chanakya's words to let go the boar. Finally he deals a heavy blow right on top of the head of the boar which is its weakest spot and scares it off from there.

Chanakya reprimands him telling you could have lost your life to which Chandra tells if I had not stepped in between you would have lost yours. Chanakya is visibly moved. Chandra opens his bundle and tells, "Let's share this food!" Chanakya refuses telling it is not sufficient for two people to which Chandra tells "Two half- full stomachs are better than one full stomach!" Chanakya sees a king in Chandra.

In this whole sequence of Chanakya Apman at the Sabha of Padmanand one could blame Chanakya for over enthusiasm and an error of judgement in going to the court without prior notice or intimation. But that's it! He got carried over by the fact that he was an esteemed professor at the Taxilla University and would be properly heard and received. Kings those days respected the learned and sought their advise on many matters.

Chanakya could have kept his thoughts to himself and given advice when Padmanand seeks it from him. But he knew that he would never ask but the situation was such that some action had to be taken and that too only by a powerful king like the king of Magadh. Moreover Chanakya would never have anticipated even in his wildest dreams that he would be insulted like that.

It was his nation at stake and he could not keep quiet. So even at the risk of not being heard, he had to give this option a try. Kings those days at least patiently listened though they might not act upon it. Chanakya perhaps would not have minded that though he might have been disappointed. He would not have become such an inveterate foe of Padmanand and wanted to destroy him at all costs. I have summed up my impressions of the episode along with a few of my views. I hope all of you like it. I would love to hear what all of you think about the episode. As far as I am concerned it met with all my expectations from it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Agree
Good post and analysis
A good episode overall today
The Chandra-mura-nandini scenes were little filmy, as
one can feel when mural says mera Chandra ayega like
'mere karan-Arjuna ayenge'
The repetitive dialogues of Chandra and nandini are really
irritating me, please give some other dialogue with the
same theme at core (if they want)
Again Nand was falling so low to get mura and the way
He treated her on rejection I was like just kill that creep, if
he had to do that only why he waited for so many years ?
And reaction of public was so weird and unreasonable
towards Mura , they know that Nand is a bad king and is
very cruel to public but steel they threw stones on her on
listening his words seriously ?
The scene of Chandra in front of Nand was good but little
over the top. Chandra challenge was good but the way it
was shown is like they hurried in this scene
Now about Chanakya
He realized that Chandra is not common but special
numerous occasions and that is building block of there
relation
The scenes where chanakya was were very good and well
shown and were not filmy
The dialogue of chanakya to that head of treasury man(i
forgot his name) that"Tumhre gyan ne tumhe ek raja ka
daas bana diya aur mai apne budhi se kisi ko bhi raja
bana sakta hu" was simply outstanding
The best scene was Nand-Chanakya scene where the
excitement of saving his motherland was in his eyes and
that brings him to pray infront of a worst king and Nand
reaction was such bad that one can feel for Chanakya
and his SAPATH was shown in really good manner which
I was not expecting
Now the first scene of Chandra-chanakya was so good,
they share a use told bond together especially after he
saved chanakya, the food scene and dialogue "ek peet
khali rahe or ek bhukha usse acha hai do peet adhe bhare
ho" was really heart touching
At one point you said that AC shouldn't have gone to visit Nand like that in very enthusiastic manner and here i disagreewith you coz when it comes to safety of your motherland one can't wait and especially when he/she is a respected person and have some plan
Now as per acting is concerned and especially over
Manoj K as chanakya today he proved he is going to set a
new benchmark for him as Chanakya, yess for few
seconds (only ) he resembled of Khallatak but he
improved and the way he portrayed the oath scene was
outstanding
Really looking forward for his chemistry with RT
PRECAP-the entry of RT is looking very filmy but all good
as RT is there and waiting for his entry and Monday
episode
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ankit-pandey24

Agree
Good post and analysis
A good episode overall today
The Chandra-mura-nandini scenes were little filmy, as
one can feel when mural says mera Chandra ayega like
'mere karan-Arjuna ayenge'
The repetitive dialogues of Chandra and nandini are really
irritating me, please give some other dialogue with the
same theme at core (if they want)
Again Nand was falling so low to get mura and the way
He treated her on rejection I was like just kill that creep, if
he had to do that only why he waited for so many years ?
And reaction of public was so weird and unreasonable
towards Mura , they know that Nand is a bad king and is
very cruel to public but steel they threw stones on her on
listening his words seriously ?
The scene of Chandra in front of Nand was good but little
over the top. Chandra challenge was good but the way it
was shown is like they hurried in this scene
Now about Chanakya
He realized that Chandra is not common but special
numerous occasions and that is building block of there
relation
The scenes where chanakya was were very good and well
shown and were not filmy
The dialogue of chanakya to that head of treasury man(i
forgot his name) that"Tumhre gyan ne tumhe ek raja ka
daas bana diya aur mai apne budhi se kisi ko bhi raja
bana sakta hu" was simply outstanding
The best scene was Nand-Chanakya scene where the
excitement of saving his motherland was in his eyes and
that brings him to pray infront of a worst king and Nand
reaction was such bad that one can feel for Chanakya
and his SAPATH was shown in really good manner which
I was not expecting
Now the first scene of Chandra-chanakya was so good,
they share a use told bond together especially after he
saved chanakya, the food scene and dialogue "ek peet
khali rahe or ek bhukha usse acha hai do peet adhe bhare
ho" was really heart touching
At one point you said that AC shouldn't have gone to visit Nand like that in very enthusiastic manner and here i disagreewith you coz when it comes to safety of your motherland one can't wait and especially when he/she is a respected person and have some plan
Now as per acting is concerned and especially over
Manoj K as chanakya today he proved he is going to set a
new benchmark for him as Chanakya, yess for few
seconds (only ) he resembled of Khallatak but he
improved and the way he portrayed the oath scene was
outstanding
Really looking forward for his chemistry with RT
PRECAP-the entry of RT is looking very filmy but all good
as RT is there and waiting for his entry and Monday
episode


Mura, Chandra and Nandini scenes are repetitive but even that doesn't take away from the overall quality of the episodes. What I was trying to tell was that Chanakya's detractors or opponents like Rakshas,Nand himself, Avantika or Nandini could raise these objections against his character or criticize his vindictiveness in seeking Nand's complete destruction for what to them might seem a simple insult in court. I actually defended Chanakya later on in the same post telling why Chanakya could not have kept quiet even at the risk of being insulted or disregarded as he was. Chandragupt even in history was a boy wonder and prodigy. So if his heroism is being highlighted a bit too obviously, it is not amiss. No random Tom, Dick, or Harry could manage to impress a mentor of Chanakya's calibre. It will take a Chandragupt to do that. I also loved Manoj Ji's portrayal of Chanakya. He is doing a fantastic job. I could identify with every scene of his. I am hardly ever reminded of his famous previous role of Mahmatya Khallatak when I see him here. I see Chanakya and only Chanakya written all over him, his body language and dialogue delivery. I am also happy that he is wearing saffron clothes here in CN. It differentiates his dressing style in CN from that of CAS. You can never please some people. They always have some fault to find even in good things. The majority must really be enjoying the portrayal of Chanakya. It is a good thing that both of us belong to that majority.
Edited by shailusri1983 - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shailusri1983


Mura, Chandra and Nandini scenes are repetitive but even that doesn't take away from the overall quality of the episodes. What I was trying to tell was that Chanakya's detractors or opponents like Rakshas,Nand himself, Avantika or Nandini could raise these objections against his character or criticize his vindictiveness in seeking Nand's complete destruction for what to them might seem a simple insult in court. I actually defended Chanakya later on in the same post telling why Chanakya could not have kept quiet even at the risk of being insulted or disregarded as he was. Chandragupt even in history was a boy wonder and prodigy. So if his heroism is being highlighted a bit too obviously, it is not amiss. No random Tom, Dick, or Harry could manage to impress a mentor of Chanakya's calibre. It will take a Chandragupt to do that. I also loved Manoj Ji's portrayal of Chanakya. He is doing a fantastic job. I could identify with every scene of his. I am hardly ever reminded of his famous previous role of Mahmatya Khallatak when I see him here. I see Chanakya and only Chanakya written all over him, his body language and dialogue delivery. I am also happy that he is wearing saffron clothes here in CN. It differentiates his dressing style in CN from that of CAS. You can never please some people. They always have some fault to find even in good things. The majority must really be enjoying the portrayal of Chanakya. It is a good thing that both of us belong to that majority.


Yess we are sailing on same boat but even people on same boat can see in different directions LOL and that's why I disagreed with you on one point but on reading your post once more I realized that you had defended AC
Yess the dressing of Manoj Ji in CAS and CN are quite different and is good coz both characters are pole apart
You are right that one can not satisfy some people in any way and that's why I wanted to comment and give back a reply of bashers of manoj ji in that thread but kept mum coz this is more better I thought
And my parents and sisters also appreciated manoj Ji and said that he is looking perfect as Chanakya and didn't resembled Khallatak any more so kudos to Manoj kolhatkar Ji for your acting skills
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Shailaja my dear,

This is manna from Heaven! I have something else I have to finish, and was going to do mine this afternoon, but now I can drop the whole idea. Marvellous, for it will mean a good bit of much needed rest for my fingers, which were reeling after the exertions of yesterday. Thanks a million, my dear girl!

I will comment on this in a while once I am free- at first sight it looks very impressive - but right away, one request to you, my dear. Would you mind not using the episode numbers for your post titles, the way I do? Even for this one?

I like my pattern, which is the one I have always used, and I have thus practically patented it. We cannot have two sets of numbered episode analyses in the future - for I very much hope that you will continue to do them - creating confusion. As a matter of fact, when I looked at the forum index and saw this, I though I was hallucinating!😆

I am sure you will bear this in mind, and I am equally sure that you can think up a neat alternative.

There used to be several daily episode analyses in the Jodha Akbar forum, and there is no reason why there should not be several here as well, and yours should be a very welcome addition. So do not make this a one shot affair.

Come to think of it, if you do keep this up regularly, and settle in well, and my RA gets worse, I can think of retiring with a clear conscience! It is a very comforting thought, for I was telling Shreya just last night that I did not see how I was going to manage both the posts and the responses to the comments on my threads on a steady basis.

More later today.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: shailusri1983

Shyamala aunty I am playing truant today. I just could not resist making this post on the fifth episode. I was waiting for you to first make the post and was intending to reply to it. But I cannot hold up anymore. It was the best among all the episodes we have seen till now. At last it was the day when an underdog not only spoke, but also challenged the existing power structure and won.

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Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Shailaja my dear,

This is manna from Heaven! I have something else I have to finish, and was going to do mine this afternoon, but now I can drop the whole idea. Marvellous, for it will mean a good bit of much needed rest for my fingers, which were reeling after the exertions of yesterday. Thanks a million, my dear girl!

I will comment on this in a while once I am free- at first sight it looks very impressive - but right away, one request to you, my dear. Would you mind not using the episode numbers for your post titles, the way I do? Even for this one?

I like my pattern, which is the one I have always used, and I have thus practically patented it. We cannot have two sets of numbered episode analyses in the future - for I very much hope that you will continue to do them - creating confusion. As a matter of fact, when I looked at the forum index and saw this, I though I was hallucinating!😆

I am sure you will bear this in mind, and I am equally sure that you can think up a neat alternative.

There used to be several daily episode analyses in the Jodha Akbar forum, and there is no reason why there should not be several here as well, and yours should be a very welcome addition. So do not make this a one shot affair.

Come to think of it, if you do keep this up regularly, and settle in well, and my RA gets worse, I can think of retiring with a clear conscience! It is a very comforting thought, for I was telling Shreya just last night that I did not see how I was going to manage both the posts and the responses to the comments on my threads on a steady basis.

More later today.

Shyamala Aunty




Aunty this will not be a one shot affair as long as the show's quality continues to be promising. But you know me since CAS days. I vanish without notice at times for days or weeks together and them drop in one fine day. It will perhaps not do to be so erratic in such a thread which has to be methodical and regularly done and maintained. Naming my thread in the style you usually do was done unintentionally. I wouldn't mind changing it if you would want it to be done for this one as well. For future threads I make I will definitely keep it in mind and adopt a different style for my individual episode analysis threads if ever I do make them. I usually prefer commenting in your thread here in CN just as there in CAS forum I never lurked out of the Episode Discussion Thread. I feel safer and secure that way. I can freely express my opinion without the fear of getting bashed, targeted or singled out as you sometimes will be when you make your own posts or reply to posts made by some people who never seem to understand that both you and I could be right in our own places. I will actually go back now and change my style of heading for this one as well. Saves a lot of confusion! Aunty I will wait for your post. Do it whenever you are free and at leisure.
Edited by shailusri1983 - 8 years ago
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Wonderful Analysis...👏👏👏

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Well, my dear Shailaja, that is one hope gone with the wind! That you could take my place when I could not keep up my regular posts, that is. A pity.

I did not know of your Scarlet Pimpernel tendencies, for I myself was in the CAS EDT for only about 2 months at the end, but if you say so I shall have to accept it. But why can that not change? Think about it, my dear, for as you would have realised by now, I am greatly taken with your perspectives on things, both when they match mine, which is very often, or when they offer something new and interesting, as on that Avantika-Nandini equation, that had not occurred to me.

Besides, I do not think you need to worry about violent reactions to whatever you might write. I did a lot of often iconoclastic writing in about 4 forums, and I have never faced any such thing, except for that one occasion in the last CAS EDT when you rushed so promptly and tenaciously to my defence!🤗That is why I was so surprised and taken aback, but then I tackled it coolly, as befits someone of my age. That was a freak reaction, and I do not think you need to hold off because of concerns about such things. As noted above, I speak from personal experience.

Thank you very much for falling in with my request and changing the title of your current and future posts. It will avert a lot of avoidable confusion. The new name is splendid, and I already liked the second half of the title.

I have just finished a lot of typing and my hand is already tired, but I wanted to respond to this one of yours before taking a break. I will comment on your post as soon as I am back. And if I do think of something that you have not covered for my own take on Episode 5, that will not be till tomorrow morning. I cannot face any more typing today!

Take care, my dear. Are you on the east coast of the US, in the Mid-West, or on the west coast?

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: shailusri1983


Aunty this will not be a one shot affair as long as the show's quality continues to be promising. But you know me since CAS days. I vanish without notice at times for days or weeks together and them drop in one fine day. It will perhaps not do to be so erratic in such a thread which has to be methodical and regularly done and maintained. Naming my thread in the style you usually do was done unintentionally. I wouldn't mind changing it if you would want it to be done for this one as well. For future threads I make I will definitely keep it in mind and adopt a different style for my individual episode analysis threads if ever I do make them. I usually prefer commenting in your thread here in CN just as there in CAS forum I never lurked out of the Episode Discussion Thread. I feel safer and secure that way. I can freely express my opinion without the fear of getting bashed, targeted or singled out as you sometimes will be when you make your own posts or reply to posts made by some people who never seem to understand that both you and I could be right in our own places. I will actually go back now and change my style of heading for this one as well. Saves a lot of confusion! Aunty I will wait for your post. Do it whenever you are free and at leisure.


Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Shailaja my dear,

This is manna from Heaven! I have something else I have to finish, and was going to do mine this afternoon, but now I can drop the whole idea. Marvellous, for it will mean a good bit of much needed rest for my fingers, which were reeling after the exertions of yesterday. Thanks a million, my dear girl!

I will comment on this in a while once I am free- at first sight it looks very impressive - but right away, one request to you, my dear. Would you mind not using the episode numbers for your post titles, the way I do? Even for this one?

I like my pattern, which is the one I have always used, and I have thus practically patented it. We cannot have two sets of numbered episode analyses in the future - for I very much hope that you will continue to do them - creating confusion. As a matter of fact, when I looked at the forum index and saw this, I though I was hallucinating!😆

I am sure you will bear this in mind, and I am equally sure that you can think up a neat alternative.

There used to be several daily episode analyses in the Jodha Akbar forum, and there is no reason why there should not be several here as well, and yours should be a very welcome addition. So do not make this a one shot affair.

Come to think of it, if you do keep this up regularly, and settle in well, and my RA gets worse, I can think of retiring with a clear conscience! It is a very comforting thought, for I was telling Shreya just last night that I did not see how I was going to manage both the posts and the responses to the comments on my threads on a steady basis.

More later today.

Shyamala Aunty




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Very neat description with amazing and heart touching analysis.👏 will add my 2 cents later.😳😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Well, my dear Shailaja, that is one hope gone with the wind! That you could take my place when I could not keep up my regular posts, that is. A pity.

I did not know of your Scarlet Pimpernel tendencies, for I myself was in the CAS EDT for only about 2 months at the end, but if you say so I shall have to accept it. But why can that not change? Think about it, my dear, for as you would have realised by now, I am greatly taken with your perspectives on things, both when they match mine, which is very often, or when they offer something new and interesting, as on that Avantika-Nandini equation, that had not occurred to me.

Besides, I do not think you need to worry about violent reactions to whatever you might write. I did a lot of often iconoclastic writing in about 4 forums, and I have never faced any such thing, except for that one occasion in the last CAS EDT when you rushed so promptly and tenaciously to my defence!🤗That is why I was so surprised and taken aback, but then I tackled it coolly, as befits someone of my age. That was a freak reaction, and I do not think you need to hold off because of concerns about such things. As noted above, I speak from personal experience.

Thank you very much for falling in with my request and changing the title of your current and future posts. It will avert a lot of avoidable confusion. The new name is splendid, and I already liked the second half of the title.

I have just finished a lot of typing and my hand is already tired, but I wanted to respond to this one of yours before taking a break. I will comment on your post as soon as I am back. And if I do think of something that you have not covered for my own take on Episode 5, that will not be till tomorrow morning. I cannot face any more typing today!

Take care, my dear. Are you on the east coast of the US, in the Mid-West, or on the west coast?

Shyamala Aunty





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I will try my best to maintain and keep this up whenever I can. I was always Scarlett Pimpernel ki Beti in terms of consistency and putting up repeat good performances. My post graduate research advisor would be the best person to tell you how erratic I was. I had to do a research project, a comparative study on Eugene O'Neil and Maxim Gorky.

I literally did not put pen to paper for the first five months of the semester neither did I give him a single appearance during the whole period to even discuss a single idea. And during the last month I bet I wrote the entire 80 page thesis under the influence of the Lady Muse of Inspiration in just ten days.

But my advisor was very patient and also understanding throughout this whole period. He accepted the first draft of the project itself with very few corrections and minor changes. It still beats me to this day how he had only good words to say about it. He told me later on that he was actually expecting me to come to him to seek a change in the topic of research to something simpler and that he had given the same topic to five batches of my seniors and none of them actually took it up!

Aunty I know the reason why both of us share similar views and agree on a number of points. I know that I or anybody in this forum cannot replace you or even come up with a very close imitation of your style of writing. You have an inimitable style and way of expressing yourself. But the curious thing is that I knew somebody just like you with a similar vision towards life and literature. She was one of my undergraduate teachers. Her classes were also phenomenal. All of us literally relived all the literary texts she taught. Some of her words are etched even today in mind like indelible print. She used to sound just like you. Her name was Lalita Nair and the most curious thing, she even resembles you in appearance. I had the good fortune to be her student for two years. I took her as my role model. So perhaps that is why on many occasions both of us are of one mind and express in a similar fashion.

Though I would love to keep this up consistently, my technical handicaps are reducing my effectiveness. The absence of my lappy is severely hampering my writing. Curse my phone, it is extremely slow and severely bugs me when I am typing that I lose focus by the time I finish two paragraphs. It makes such odd corrections to every word I type. I am actually planning to take a Tab at least for the time being. If that happens, I will be able to make regular posts to some extent. But again since I am living in US in the State of Iowa and I get to watch CN twelve or thirteen hours after the telecast in India and by the time I see and post on it, it becomes like an old newspaper being read after the publication of the new one. Glad you liked the new name of my episode analysis post. The Day of the Underdog is inspired from another popular text The Day of the Jackal.
Edited by shailusri1983 - 8 years ago

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