Was 2 years really invested in the development of IB?[VB Note:pg 11]

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I genuinely feel embarrassed for Gul Khan.

I hear that her team spent two long years developing the characters and the plot line. It sure doesn't look like two years of work. For being such a big name (apparently) in the television industry, Gul Khan's Ishqbaaz is underwhelmmg - at least that's what the TRP suggests.

Cameos get more scenes than leads. There is no functioning antagonist. No continuity of sub-plots. Too many characters and not enough story. Even the Shivika romance feels rushed. Characterisation is a joke.
  • From constantly bitching at each other, Pinky and Jhanvi suddenly became soul sisters. There was no catalyst, nor was their slow progression. One moment they can't stand each other and in the next, they can't live without each other. CV's please explain.
  • Tej and Jhanvi are suddenly in love. Decades of resentment and misunderstandings is compensated for with a simple sorry. From being on the verge of a divorce, abruptlyTej and Jhanvi are enamoured with each other like young teenagers.
  • Shivaay's development from harsh, ruthless, unfeeling businessman to a bumbling, smitten, romantic is baseless, and so sudden. This change baffles me. How does one, change so drastically in such a short period of time?
  • Don't even get me started on IshKara. This story had so much potential, but the writers completely wasted it. After two years of 'developing,' the best the writers could come up with was Bela & Mala, before they completely gave up on the character. Writers, you lost my respect then and there. A good writer is a person who should be able to create magic from the most impossible of situations. You gave up, and I cannot tolerate people who give up. In my eyes, that is simply being lazy, lacking determination, imagination and originality. Basically, you are a disgrace to the idea of creativity.
  • As much as I love RuMya, I fear that this pairing will never gain momentum, because Gul doesn't let her side pairings reach their full potential. RumYa will be the next to go under the bus - mark my words.
  • Where is the story even heading? The villainous trifecta is pathetic. There is literally no plot or substance to the current story. It's literally one festival after the other. A new cameo every other week. There is hardly any conflict. Where are you going with this, Gul?
  • All that is left, is the supernatural. Any sign of witches, vampires, talking snakes, magic, ghosts or werewolves - I'm out. And sadly, this isn't even remotely ludicrous. Gul has a history of the outlandish, so if that's what you're planning, please be honest for once and let us know now, so that the intelligent viewer can abandon ship early before we are even more invested in the characters.
And this is the reputation that Gul and her creatives have developed, which is far from an admirable one. So for those who laud Gul, unfortunately, I am going to have to disagree with you.

I'm on the verge of abandoning this show. Most days, it resembles a comedy more than a drama and that's not what I signed up for.

There is a reason why your trps are falling, Gul. Take a hint. Stop defending your writers, by blaming fans. Be accountable for your failure as a producer. Take charge of your creative team and give the story direction, before you lose control of the wheel, as well as sight of the shore.




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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with all you points. I myself am pondering about this exact thing.
I dnt agree with ur one point. IshKara track..

First of all, Gul's first choice of a character opposite Om was that of a girl with revenge in her heart and mind. That of a shooter. Twinkle was supposed to play the rolw. Vrushika and con-girl track was brought in late 2016 just before the show started. Vrushika was brought in the middle. So development of character cannot be related to those 2 years
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Posted: 8 years ago
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YOU MY FRIEND JUST STOLE THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH all this 2 years in the making is a load of bull!! I am so utterly pissed vrushika left she herself quit I guess but I'm pretty sure they must've created a situation like that probably gul is planning to bring on someone from qubool hai yet again to show another reunion...what's so frustrating about gul is that she's not ready to accept her mistake she's just not... blaming the fans who are actually giving you trps is the shittiest most unprofessional attitude ever...My opinion about shivika slightly differs from yours but I totally agree that shivaays change of attitude already seems so rushed takes me back to the good ole ipkknd days Arnav was far better also shivika is nothing new it's a mix of asad zoya and Arnav khushi so again 0 creativity there from the creative team...whatever shit gul is planning to pull off won't work here it's star plus not zee tv or colors where the shows go on for years without yielding results aka trps if these pseudo writers don't pull up their socks and develop the content for which even 2 years wasn't enough this show is gone soon
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Posted: 8 years ago
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one does wonder about all of this,does one not?
but apparently this is a channel thing more than the PH thing...naamkaran took a long time too.

I am kind of worried about sanaya irani's new show on SP too as it will take a long time too...hopefully it is not a disappointment,at least it should have a plot...but it is made by YHM's initial writers and that show was pretty likeable in the starting..they do well with concepts involving kids..so there is some hope.


Coming back to IB - i just wonder exactly when did this become an only shivika story when not only the promos but even the initial articles promoted this as a story of three brothers...so when exactly did the change happen?
Also they seem to have focussed more on special effects and being ott than on the story.
Edited by JaiJaiIraniMata - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I definitely agree with you. Is this all the great writers came up with? In the end, they removed Ishana chi! Shame on them.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AngelicTomboy

I agree with all you points. I myself am pondering about this exact thing.

I dnt agree with ur one point. IshKara track..

First of all, Gul's first choice of a character opposite Om was that of a girl with revenge in her heart and mind. That of a shooter. Twinkle was supposed to play the rolw. Vrushika and con-girl track was brought in late 2016 just before the show started. Vrushika was brought in the middle. So development of character cannot be related to those 2 years


Thanks for pointing that out. I stand corrected, then. However, I will still maintain that writers did a dismal job with their story. IshKara had immense potential, but the writers could not capitalise on it. I have nothing else to say for them.

As a writer, I cherish the characters that I write. If I give birth to something, then I cherish it like my own child. The writers on the show, kicked their character to the kerb, just because they did not know where to go with her. This is immensely saddening because it shows that the writers do not value their own creation. Not only does this demonstrate a lack of originality and imagination, but also displays cowardice, on the part of the creative team. They backed down from the challenge. Instead of fighting for their character, they gave up on her and as a viewer, I cannot forgive that.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'll keep this simple, simply because I have a busy schedule right now, and GK doesn't deserve my explanations, nor does she, very clearly, care about fans opinions:

No.
Two years were spent, but not on IB. Just on creating another couple she could get some accolades for. I know people 1/3rd her age who are better writers/executers than her entire team. Not discrediting her talent in the industry, just stating facts, since the people on this forum love those. As much as I dislike Ekta Kapoor, even she's shown better compassion towards fans/actors on her stupid, irrelevant story lines.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sneha6-

I'll keep this simple, simply because I have a busy schedule right now, and GK doesn't deserve my explanations, nor does she, very clearly, care about fans opinions:

No.
Two years were spent, but not on IB. Just on creating another couple she could get some accolades for. I know people 1/3rd her age who are better writers/executers than her entire team. Not discrediting her talent in the industry, just stating facts, since the people on this forum love those. As much as I dislike Ekta Kapoor, even she's shown better compassion towards fans/actors on her stupid, irrelevant story lines.

let me rephrase that two years were spent by gul and her so called creatives rewatching qubool hai and ipkknd to create shivika!! If you can recall that scene where annika says I pray to God I dont ever have to see you again that happened in ipkknd also khushi says the same to Arnav obviously the consequences were different but still the creatives in these 2 years went back to their old shows and picked up incidences...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well i sort of agree with u but i think Ishqbaaz is way better than all her shows and its a complete family package with romance,comedy and emotions of different characters..!!
So far I m liking it..!!

My view.😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I have been thinking about this for a long time as to what is so special in IB story that it took 2 years?😆

what we have been shown till now maximum is a love story between a rich business guy who is arrogant and thinks highly of himself and a simple bubbly middle class girl.And this is nothing unique for Indian TV.So what exactly took 2 years?

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