Sam being guilt tripped.

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~*sindhu*~

@~*sindhu*~

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Posted: 9 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: .annihilation.
^^ Sindhu, firstly, take a hug. You need one. 🤗
Secondly, you make want to beat the writers and myself up for settlong for that apology. 😳 I thought that, may be, there's no explanation. May be, there never was. Because at times, people make stupid mistakes and they're no explanations or justifications for that.

All that you covered just explains what was and what became of it. How it was and how it is now and how it always works this half baked way. It saddens me when I think of it, that such crucial details do no matter a bit to the writers. I agree, the only reason Sam and Dean have whatever little essence of the original Sam and Dean, its because of Jensen and Jared. If it were only up to Carver and team, they would have sabotaged their characters beyond damage and repair. 😳

I think we will have to settle down for the apology without explanation as that is all we're going to get. 😆

🤗 🤗 Thank you... 🤗

I understand people make silly mistakes and there are no explanations. But does it work in this context at all ? Does that work for a guy who fought with a trickster and pretty much turned into psychopath to hunt him down in a delusional world only because the trickster took his brother away ? Does it work for a guy who wanted to kill himself when he realised that he has demon blood in him and did not want to turn into a monster that his brother will hate... but happily embraced that part of him when his brother died cause he wanted to kill the lilith who was responsible for his death or atleast die trying. No it doesn't and thats my problem.. This is not the Sam they built for so many years. That guy who would tear down the world when his brother died didn't even look for him when he disappeared? Isn't that the point ..Dean wasn't even dead ..he disappeared and Sam hit a dog. This is absurd that the writers who takes such drastic measures to write a storyline doesn't really have a reason to justify even after three years. Even if it was a silly mistake it should have been explained. A main character deserves that much.

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~*sindhu*~

@~*sindhu*~

Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: SilentSilver
Even Baby got an episode with her POV , so did the ghostfacers ( if I am not wrong). But Sam didn't . Just saying.

Bobby got his pov epi when he was dying. Cas got his pov when he was explaining why he needs the leviathans. Sam got none.

I remember the epi when Sam was telling about his time with Ruby when Dean was in hell. Focus on the point that Sam was telling Dean about it. why ? Because Dean pov 😆

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annihilation

@annihilation

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 9 years ago

#23

Sindhu, I agree completey, he should have. That's the least he deserves. All I'm saying is my hopes for the same to happen are pretty low at the moment. 😆

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~*sindhu*~

@~*sindhu*~

Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: .annihilation.
Sindhu, I agree completey, he should have. That's the least he deserves. All I'm saying is my hopes for the same to happen are pretty low at the moment. 😆

I have no hope for anything with this show anymore. I can't even remember what on earth is suppose to be tomorrow's epi about. I m that disinterested in the show at the moment. But those incompetent fools still pisses me off with their unbearable storytelling talent.

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annihilation

@annihilation

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 9 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: ~*sindhu*~

I have no hope for anything with this show anymore. I can't even remember what on earth is suppose to be tomorrow's epi about. I m that disinterested in the show at the moment. But those incompetent fools still pisses me off with their unbearable storytelling talent.

I agree with you completely with all that you have said. Your concerns, questions and complaints are in the best interest of the show. Having said that, I don't think I can ever bring myself to give up on this show (no matter if I want to) or have no hope in it at all even if there's no scope for it. I know that sounds a little gone in the head but that's just how it is. Let's just hope we get heard and whatever happens, happens for the good of the show. As for you, I hope the incompetent idiots come up with something so as to regain your interest in the show. I know its not a nice feeling to feel this way about your favourite show. 🤗

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Muskaan

@muskaan2298

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Posted: 9 years ago

#26

So this is a damn old post and I do not think anyone is going to be reading my reply but I need to write this.

The thing I do agree with you that Dean is very hard on Sam but there are plenty of reasons for that and they may not be completely justified to some people but they are justified to me.

Since Dean was a kid, he has been looking out for Sammy it was his job and I dont know which season it was but it was during earlier season where Dean that more than his job thats who he is. And I think in the beginning he did not expect Sam to return that favour you know? but then whem Sam did everything he could to save Dean from going to hell in season 3, Dean realised that his brother would do the same and I think after that he expected Sam to always look out for him just like Dean did you know?

And then when Sam did not look for Dean after purgatory, Dean was hurt because like I said he expected his brother to try and get him out regardless of the promise they make that we wont look for each other. It hurt him I think because he was fighting a tough battle down there while his brother was living his life and we all know if Sam was down there, Dean would have tried everything to get him out. Dean expected him to get him, we could say that Dean should not expect that and then make Sam feel guilty for not meeting those expectations but Dean thought that Sam would return the favour you know?

And then when Sam said given same circumstances, I would not have regarding the whole angel think in season 9, Dean was really hurt.

So what I am saying is that no matter what Dean says, he wants Sam too look out for him you know? In Season 10 yes he was mad at Sam and writers never addressed it and idek if its true but knowing Dean since season 1, I think deep down he was happy that Sam was trying to save him you know? He was mad that Charlie got in crossfire and got killed but somewhere Dean was happy that Sam was trying.

I understand Sam's point of view but I think Sam feels guilty because he did nit look for his brother when he knew that his brother would have looked for him if situation was reversed. At the end of the day as much as I hate to admit, Dean needs Sam more than Sam needs Dean. Sam loves his brother, but I think Dean fears being alone because he cannot imagine being without family.

So all I am saying is that yes Sam has been guilt tripping a lot and that sucks but his guilt tripping is sort of justified given what has happened.

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Ekta

@HaymurS

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+ 3

Posted: 9 years ago

#27

@muskaan-kaha thi tum ab tak balika?😆 khair i read all comments on all posts and gives my two cents...
And i agree so +1 from my side😊
I think the whole sammy hit a dog thing needed a closure and as since last two seasons this issue was never talked about between them ,it defo needed a closure for both the bros...for them to heal...

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Jackles

@Jackles

Rocker

Posted: 9 years ago

#28

Sam's ability to intuit how everyone must have felt is faintly focused by the camera, and that is why onlookers confuse it with cockiness and narcissism. I agree that he has done some things in the past but let's get this straight. Aren't makers highlighting them more than the pretty severe crap that swings his way in every season?! When this fandom is in the thick of things counting how many times he has hurt Dean, I prefer listening to Eckhart Tolle who writes in Stillness Speaks: "If his past were your past, his pain your pain, his level of consciousness your level of consciousness, you would think and act exactly as he does. With this realization comes forgiveness, compassion, peace." Psst: I'm Dean girl and I always have been but that doesn't make me withstand subjection to a girl in my class who listens the word "Sam," and puts it bluntly, "the one who killed his mother?!" I was like, "why do they play 'blindfold' while watching supernatural?!" Yes, I was annoyed when Sam didn't look for Dean in the purgatory. But what it lies in our power to do, it lies in our power not to do, and Dean and Sam, both have proved this with their actions. But sadly, we're not punished for our emotions (Dean) as we are punished for our rational actions (Sam) *Bit off's psychology, duh. I read that how Castiel stans on twitter tweeted that Sam was OOC in #HellsAngel, but all I saw in the episode was the priority to save the world on exercising a friend out of cacodemon. I'm not saying that hitting a dog, letting Dean down, or whatever he did in 10*3 was right, but when a person is all messed up with guilt, and you continue shaking him like grain is shaken in a sieve, it will make him take more drastic measures next time e.g unleashing of the 'Darkness.' But at the end of the day; they are brothers, and Dean has forgiven his Sammy, so who am I?!

Edited by -SAMAN- - 9 years ago

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Ekta

@HaymurS

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+ 3

Posted: 9 years ago

#29

@saman-omg sam responsible for his mother death is totally silly🤪 ...khair s8 stuff was pretty messed up and m glad finally both bros have forgiven each other for that and moved on...

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Sandy

@StardustSandy

Rocker

Posted: 9 years ago

#30

Honestly the writers have run out of ideas to keep the audience emotionally hooked, having said that m glad they discussed the purgatory thing, there was never a proper closure shown for that mistake Sam made and i agree with wt sm1 has said above, dean is afraid of being alone and thats why sam is more than just a family to him, he needs him to be around for his own survival and existence #period amd every1 knows that sam can live without dean *happily* while dean cant, he'll blow that opportunity even if given the chance, hell i still hvnt forgiven sam for wt he did, he just doesnt care for dean as much.as dean does..but yes he has bin tryin to make up to him and thats kinda cute and worth appreciation

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