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Posted: 9 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: bips

I get that both of them are egoistic.

So though i don;t understand how anyone can go from marrying one girl one day to marrying a different girl the very next minute just bec they are angry ... even then if i stretch my understanding and cinematic liberty, and get sagar's actions ... ... ... ... .


what i don't understand is that he makes mistakes but he does not want to suffer the consequences of it. he basically wants a get-free-jail-card

He has made his decisions but does not want to be held responsible for them

What gave him the right to marry jhanvi and then ask her to not expect any marital affections but still expect gangaa to love him and declare it to the world ?

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Bingo!!! You hit the nail on the head. What Saagar did was a vindictive act. He used one woman to hurt another. Also, even if that vindictive act can be written off as an impulse thing, his actions since then has lowered his character even further. You are right he doesn't want to take responsibility for his actions. 👏👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Creatives have projected Sagar to be an extremely impulsive, hot-headed and fickle minded guy, who can't stick to his own decisions; and of course, as @bips has put is not ready to suffer the consequences of his drastically senseless actions.

First he proclaims Gangaa as his friend and Jahnvi as his fiance. Does engagement with the latter. Realizing his love for the former but without breaking the engagement with Jahnvi; starts pursuing Gangaa vigorously, impulsively puts sindoor on her publicly, declares that he is now married so it's illegal for him to marry any other girl and promises Gangaa that he would neither leave nor break her trust ever.
Then within a couple of days hell breaks loose; he overhears a conversation between his critically ill father and her, in which she "returns" Sagar back to Papa Chatur on his request. This hurts him at his core as he had left every other relation for the sake of this relation. All the trust and respect he was so lecturing about vanishes into thin air in a jiffy. He even doesn't bother to have a proper conversation with Gangaa, whom he has claimed as his soul, in order to understand her rationale behind such a significant decision !!!

Yes, he was extremely hurt & angry. He could have simply severed all ties with her as his reaction. But blinded by anger, in order to take revenge he does a registry marriage with Jahnvi, which literally did not happen in a blink of an eye. Now, in the middle of the night, he suddenly realizes his blunder and barges into Gangaa's room forcing her to proclaim her love for him !!! When she does not oblige, he puts all the blame on her shoulder !!! Next morning he confronts Gangaa for not putting the sindoor on her forehead !! And so he continues.

Till now he has not spoken clearly about divorce with Jahnvi. It was just casual "agar tum chaaho to...". So, at least for now he is neither ready to get rid of Jahnvi via a legal divorce nor he is ready to leave Gangaa for good to have a family life with Jahnvi (We know Jahnvi is evil and so she is absolutely worth of this punishment, but he does not. So as far as he is concerned, he is ruining a girl's life.). Literally. Sagar wants to have the cake and eat it too.

Regarding Gangaa's reaction in yesterday's restaurant scene, I, personally, don't find anything to do with her ego. Right now, she just wants to severe every tie with the guy who has publicly dumped her just a few days back. I suppose, for a girl with so much self-respect, Sagar's, who has come for a dinner date with his legal wife, reaction was simply a nose-poke in her space.

Regarding Tia's Man vs. Woman point, that's correct. In case the situation was reverse (Gangaa in place of Sagar and vice-versa), Gangaa would have been termed as the vamp; since unfortunately society has different standards for guys and girls till now.
Edited by chandrima02 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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You have always been able to put everything in concise and logical manner. Couldn't have said better myself. What is more amazing to me Chandrima how quick us women are to defend a man's actions using "boys will be boys", "but this is who he is", "but he said sorry" excuses. We call a man's ego part of his character, but a woman's self-respect her character flaw. Why is a man's pride more important than a woman's pride? Why should not a woman have an ego too if that's what she has? Why she has to keep her head down and not get angry enough or upset enough to say something hurtful?

And why can a man get away with using one woman against another while disrespecting and treating both women horridly and yet be called a hero? It's about time women start hating and punishing men like that who put one woman against another because they can't take responsibility for their action and stop defending them.

If men like that even chose one woman after behaving in such a disgusting manner, both women should show some self-respect and walk away from him. He doesn't deserve either.



Originally posted by: chandrima02

Creatives have projected Sagar to be an extremely impulsive, hot-headed and fickle minded guy, who can't stick to his own decisions; and of course, as @bips has put is not ready to suffer the consequences of his drastically senseless actions.

First he proclaims Gangaa as his friend and Jahnvi as his fiance. Does engagement with the latter. Realizing his love for the former but without breaking the engagement with Jahnvi; starts pursuing Gangaa vigorously, impulsively puts sindoor on her publicly, declares that he is now married so it's illegal for him to marry any other girl and promises Gangaa that he would neither leave nor break her trust ever.
Then within a couple of days hell breaks loose; he overhears a conversation between his critically ill father and her, in which she "returns" Sagar back to Papa Chatur on his request. This hurts him at his core as he had left every other relation for the sake of this relation. All the trust and respect he was so lecturing about vanishes into thin air in a jiffy. He even doesn't bother to have a proper conversation with Gangaa, whom he has claimed his soul, in order to understand her rationale behind such a significant decision !!!

Yes, he was extremely hurt & angry. He could have simply severed all ties with her as his reaction. But blinded by anger, in order to take revenge he does a registry marriage with Jahnvi, which literally did not happen in a blink of an eye. Now, at the middle of the night, he suddenly realizes his blunder and barges into Gangaa's room forcing her to proclaim her love for him !!! When she did not oblige, he puts all the blame on her shoulder !!! Next morning he confronts Gangaa for not putting the sindoor on her forehead !! And so he continues.

Till now he has not spoken clearly about divorce with Jahnvi. It was just casual "agar tum chaaho to...". So, at least for now he is neither ready to get rid of Jahnvi via a legal divorce nor he is ready to leave Gangaa for good to have a family life with Jahnvi (We know Jahnvi is evil and so she is absolutely worth of this punishment, but he does not. So as far as he is concerned, he is ruining a girl's life.). Literally. Sagar wants to have the cake and eat it too.

Regarding Gangaa's reaction in yesterday's restaurant scene, I, personally, don't find anything to do with her ego. Right now, she just wants to severe every ties with the guy who has publicly dumped her just a few days back. I suppose, for a girl with so much self-respect, Sagar's, who has come for a dinner date with his legal wife, reaction was simply a nose-poke in her space.

Regarding Tia's Man vs. Woman point, that's correct. In case the situation was reverse (Gangaa in place of Sagar and vice-versa), Gangaa would have been termed as the vamp; since unfortunately society has different standards for guys and girls till now.

Edited by tia.o - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Lol when did it turn into a war between men vs women. Saying our society alwaz is ready to rescue men's may be true to some extent but then there are times when a women is headstrong and the man is calm and sorted and vice-versa..and sometimes both are headstrong..
Here SAGA belong to the third category..both are headstrong in their way,they were same since childhood but I find Sagar after being grown up has become little sorted while ganga has become little more headstrong though I get proud of her coz she tries to stand at right place and never give up for anything wrong..But again saying Sagar is a jerk and worst person non-deserving and ganga being getting clean-chit is not my words 😒
When earlier ganga confessed her love and Sagar denied it trying to make her understand is all possible way..what she did? She also went ahead breaking all ties,their childhood friendship too but Sagar kept running behind her manofying her having guilt and pained of their broken friendship..i supported ganga there coz I felt any normal self-respected person may try to ignore her love in this way only at least as a quick response.She was the one who treated their friendship as not so important and alwaz kept taunting Sagar now and then making him guilty..but as soon as mms kaand occurred she first ran to him..why? Coz no matter what they share a kind of relationship which is beyond any pain,any accusation..No matter what happens in between them,if a bomb is dropped they will run to look for each other first..so that's the intensity of their relationship.yes Sagar didn't reacted in that very situation coz he was there thinking by his lawyer mind that to believe he needs proof though his heart kept telling she is his ganga and she can't ever do anything..i liked his turmoil there coz it was different from those characters who just jump into war to defend one..but here CVs very beautifully presented that one alwaz doesn't need proofs to prove sometimes its your faith and will that gets to the right and as soon as Sagar realized that he went and asked sorry.. went against his family to fight for ganga,left home for her..and hence got her justice but was yet to realize his love..and yes he realized it later after engagement but then all engagement drama was created by his mom he was never ready for that.coz yes that one hidden force of love was pulling him and that came out in fire incident..One when finds all answers to his question..it is a kind of relieve so was he..but ganga again reminded him of what wrong his feelings can do..at that tum everything was going so fast,no new to him..he was only bothered about how to prove his love he at time was only bothered about ganga status..and when he went home seeing ganga insulted he there declared his love so now no one see her as widow..and he just didn't filled her hairline but also fought back to get ganga her life back.when niru hurted her..he fought with his father and went to her composed her promised to be with her..he left his parents begin for her,was trying his best to secure their future.. But why? Why ganga is alaz bothered about her her and her self respect her thought her thinking? Why she alwaz try to make him understand her point of view either being stubborn or accusing him back..and actually most of the time Sagar give up coz he tries his best to get her point and can't lose her..Why she went alone back to that house not waiting for him nor informing him once,that was really upsetting anyone at Sagar place my have been little disappointed with that..sagar alwaz try to walk with her but she ganga feels she moves ahead to walk alone too..though I know she never tries to disown him..but she should sometimes get his feeling also over her..but she hardly does..
When Sagar went to niru what he listens was equally shoking to him..she was disowning him,she was challenging his patient father that if he has strength bring his Sagar back..why,why? At thus place Sagar is again expected to get over easily..do ever ganga give up her thinking..no she doesn't once she make up her mind..then why not Sagar..he felt she is challenging his father? She is ready to let go off me so easily? I love her,left everything for he,hurted my parents,fought with everyone.. And she is not getting me why I did so? I did it for her..this got him extremely an..will she if situation come will leave me so easily...he went to fight with her..but again in place of saying sorry ganga tried to make him understand his poin..like alwaz..and added her self-respect to it... so as one of fan here said there is a thin line between self-respect and ego..gangaa when crosses that that line she herself never gets it.. Sagar being angry got even more pissed by her self-respect jaap..arey he too fights for her self-respect but that doesn't mean she will take him for granted..He too got extremely hurt with that and went ahead..Ohh..so you don't need me? You and your self respect,where do i stand? And then yes he left and came next day..so yes in anger he planned everything tickets fir janvi and registrar too..not because hanvi was in his mind but because his parents wanted her to be in ganga's place..He was pissed coz ganga wasn't sorry for what she said but she was again going with Sagar you this and that..and its nature of some yaar when they are angry more you try to disagree with them more they will get on fire..same happened with Sagar..this time he was really hurt and angry..he couldn't believe ganga actually gave him coz he was not going to lose her..but then anger is harmful and he harmed himself in return went ahead and registered their marriage to hurt ganga.. But she his anger cooled down he realized o god his promises was only meant for ganga..how can he marry someone else..HE ACTUALLY GOT MARRIED? 😲 This got him shaken that's why he ran to her..coz as I told..everytime a bomb is dropped they will be the first to Ra to each other..no matter how angry they are but their inner bond is unbreakable and life incidents are part of our own doings..but each consequences doesn't change our soul thinking..
Here gangaa resides in sagar's thought,she dominates his decision but that doesn't mean he is emotionless not having his own thought..he didn't ran yo ganga coz he wanted to escape his consequences of mistake.. Aksar jab bure sapne se nind tutti h to insaan sabse pehle ye confirm karne k kosis Karta hai did it really happened? Same here..he got scared after he came out of his punishing mode,he git scared that he actually lost her kya? He then argued to her why she did so coz he was trying to make himself believe,No this cant happen..how will he redeem it..It was just his breakdown,so was he panicking.
But saying that he isn't ready fir his consequences can't be wholly true..if it was then he may have not even asked janvi "agar tum chaho to" he may have readily agreed to divorce her..but he us understanding how he has dragged her in this mess..so he is silent..atleadt he is not dragging and throwing her out of room unlike other male lead..he is just ignoring from giving her wifey rights but didn't stopped her from getting DIL rights..
He is repenting himself and now has came back to sense and has taken his tum to absorb the fact that he actually has drawn a line in between him and gangaa..and in making him realize ganga played a vital role.
She still means a lot to him.During restaurant incident he didn't jumped instant into the matter..he got in when it was intolerable..that was one good thing that he is also trying to be sensible..why he was not supposed to be his Bhabhi was also their so they are his family..but ganga reacting in that way was justified untill she said with which right he was helping them...attention she asked about helping them not her..so there was his reply coz of Bhabhi he shares many relation..

Yes Sagar did mistake or I say blunder..but he isn't jerk.. He alwaz bends and ask sorry when he realizes his mistakes.and if he has done worst then he also has been punished in a way to stay away from his love.
In his weak tum in his anger..people also took opportunity to fulfil their wish..like madhvi,janvi,amma ji..etc they are part of his mistake and cant get of easily just by saying you did it as per your wish.
Well when SAGA is a team no one can break them but if they are apart they themselves are torned and incomplete..and the question about if they were married would Sagar have went ahead in same way marrying anyone else?? Then my answer is No.. Their incomplete marriage was the reason of insecurity and anger of Sagar..he thought he is gonna lose her..or she wanted to dump her..but if they were married,Sagar already had all rights on her legally and socially..then he may have thrown divorce paper to her but must not have went ahead to marry other one.
What I know is SAGA belongs to each other and people and circumstances are such trying hard to break their bond..lets see if it breaks..?
Love SAGA 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: chandrima02

Creatives have projected Sagar to be an extremely impulsive, hot-headed and fickle minded guy, who can't stick to his own decisions; and of course, as @bips has put is not ready to suffer the consequences of his drastically senseless actions.

First he proclaims Gangaa as his friend and Jahnvi as his fiance. Does engagement with the latter. Realizing his love for the former but without breaking the engagement with Jahnvi; starts pursuing Gangaa vigorously, impulsively puts sindoor on her publicly, declares that he is now married so it's illegal for him to marry any other girl and promises Gangaa that he would neither leave nor break her trust ever.
Then within a couple of days hell breaks loose; he overhears a conversation between his critically ill father and her, in which she "returns" Sagar back to Papa Chatur on his request. This hurts him at his core as he had left every other relation for the sake of this relation. All the trust and respect he was so lecturing about vanishes into thin air in a jiffy. He even doesn't bother to have a proper conversation with Gangaa, whom he has claimed his soul, in order to understand her rationale behind such a significant decision !!!

Yes, he was extremely hurt & angry. He could have simply severed all ties with her as his reaction. But blinded by anger, in order to take revenge he does a registry marriage with Jahnvi, which literally did not happen in a blink of an eye. Now, at the middle of the night, he suddenly realizes his blunder and barges into Gangaa's room forcing her to proclaim her love for him !!! When she did not oblige, he puts all the blame on her shoulder !!! Next morning he confronts Gangaa for not putting the sindoor on her forehead !! And so he continues.

Till now he has not spoken clearly about divorce with Jahnvi. It was just casual "agar tum chaaho to...". So, at least for now he is neither ready to get rid of Jahnvi via a legal divorce nor he is ready to leave Gangaa for good to have a family life with Jahnvi (We know Jahnvi is evil and so she is absolutely worth of this punishment, but he does not. So as far as he is concerned, he is ruining a girl's life.). Literally. Sagar wants to have the cake and eat it too.

Regarding Gangaa's reaction in yesterday's restaurant scene, I, personally, don't find anything to do with her ego. Right now, she just wants to severe every ties with the guy who has publicly dumped her just a few days back. I suppose, for a girl with so much self-respect, Sagar's, who has come for a dinner date with his legal wife, reaction was simply a nose-poke in her space.

Regarding Tia's Man vs. Woman point, that's correct. In case the situation was reverse (Gangaa in place of Sagar and vice-versa), Gangaa would have been termed as the vamp; since unfortunately society has different standards for guys and girls till now.




Thank you. You said everything i wanted to say but in a much more articulate manner.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ammu92



Yes Sagar did mistake or I say blunder..but he isn't jerk.. He alwaz bends and ask sorry when he realizes his mistakes.and if he has done worst then he also has been punished in a way to stay away from his love.
In his weak tum in his anger..people also took opportunity to fulfil their wish..like madhvi,janvi,amma ji..etc they are part of his mistake and cant get of easily just by saying you did it as per your wish.
Well when SAGA is a team no one can break them but if they are apart they themselves are torned and incomplete..and the question about if they were married would Sagar have went ahead in same way marrying anyone else?? Then my answer is No.. Their incomplete marriage was the reason of insecurity and anger of Sagar..he thought he is gonna lose her..or she wanted to dump her..but if they were married,Sagar already had all rights on her legally and socially..then he may have thrown divorce paper to her but must not have went ahead to marry other one.
What I know is SAGA belongs to each other and people and circumstances are such trying hard to break their bond..lets see if it breaks..?
Love SAGA 😳






He is a jerk. He is married to a nice girl (according to him, jhanvi is nice bec he does not know her true face). He married her. And then 10 mins later went running to gangaa. And then he is harassing (yes harassing) gangaa to admit that she still loves him ... Why ??? ... So people can can get further chance to malign her ???

And saying sorry means shit. Sometimes a sorry is not enough. Sometimes your mistake is so big that saying sorry will not ever rectify the situation.

I hate this type of love stories between a married person and his "tru luv" ... i used to hate the love story between arjun purvi in pavitra rishta for the same reason.

Once you are married you have to respect the boundaries. Gangaa is respecting the boundary and completely stone walling sagar and i think that is very very sensible of her

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