Reverse Situation!!!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I always thought it was strange that if men and women are reversed in the same situation, even educated people would have different expectation of them.
It's not just men who put down women, it's women who put down other women more.

Let's take Gangaa and Sagaar situation and reverse it.

Saagar is the orphan boy who got shelter at Gangaa's home. Gangaa's parents brought him home as a toy for Gangaa since she liked him.

As a child, Gangaa asked him to marry her and he did. Eventually, she was sent away while he faithfully waits for her, his wife.

Years later, Gangaa returns with a boy he claims to be her boyfriend, say J. Sagar is heart broken but endures everything. J being jealous of their relationship and closeness tries to demean Sagar in front of the whole family which he thought loves him like a son and the whole city to the point that people are calling him names and besmirching his honour.

He still tolerates. Suddenly Gangaa comes to him and says that she loves him and now she doesn't want to marry J any more. Not only that she accepts him as her husband in front of the whole family.

The family show their true colours. They call Saagar charity case and how he mistook their charity for love. Saagar's heart is broken, his trust is shaken. But he still has his love, so he is still holding on.

Now Gangaa's dad gets sick and calls him. He begs him to give him his daughter back. Saagar is upset, so he screams at him to take her back thinking that Gangaa is an adult woman - not a thing that anyone can give or take back.

Gangaa hears this and thinks how dare someone she defied her family for can leave her (the fact that she made a boyfriend while staying abroad doesn't count. She can leave him, but he can't leave her because you know, he is a charity case and she is the cherished daughter).

She storms to J and does court marriage to him despite Saagar warning her that she can never come back to him if she does so. She makes mockery of her marriage to Saagar and shows him that everyone of his relationships are lies.

Now she comes back as a wife to J. But same night she thinks that she made a mistake. So she goes back to Saagar and tries to entice him back into her life while being legally married to J but gets upset when he doesn't come after her with his tail tucked under his legs.

If that was showed in a show, Gangaa would be the vamp, not the female lead.

So how is that Saagar is the male lead? Is it because he is a man and not a woman? So him being a total characterless jerk who likes to have his cake and eat it too should still be all right?

If Saagar didn't have Jahnvi in his mind as a back up plan, what he would have done? Would he have drag someone from the street and marry her?

The only way you can come up with a marriage partner that fast when you already have a plan B in mind. That means he was playing with Gangaa thinking he can always fall back on safe bet Jahnvi approved by family with access to family wealth.

If plan A doesn't work out, there is always plan B. But he doesn't want to let go of Ganga either so while legally being married to Jahnvi, he is hanging around Ganga hoping she, like other men and women forgive him using age old excuse "boys will be boys"...

If Ganga refuses, she doesn't love him. If Janvi protests, threaten her with divorce. But if it's such a major mistake, why not get divorced now? Why just make empty threats? Ganga refused him, so he tucked his tail and walked back to plan B?

If this had happened after he had legally married Ganga, what would he have done? Go and have affair with Jahnvi?

Jahnvi might be a b**ch of the first order, but Sagar is no one's idea of a hero. In fact these two are made for each other.

In my opinion, he is a self-centred, immature, privileged jerk who a. doesn't know how to love because true love means that you have to jump completely, no plan B and b. whines like a kid who doesn't want to let go of any of his toys!!!

Ganga is better off without him. Imagine having to live with a man who gets angry and takes extreme steps instead of coming to you and talk to you like any other ADULT rational man.
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samiaadiya12 thumbnail
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Now i understand great 😊
Edited by jacina19saga - 9 years ago
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im confused cz im somehow agree and dis agree with ur poat
sagar had a fit of fury, thats why he took such big step, and its human nature, that we commit such mistakes in anger that would cost us heavily afterwards, same the case with sagr(in this way i disagree with u)
but on the other hand this sudden dtep prove that he has not firm fith in his love(in this way i agree with u)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I think you misunderstood. The title of my post is "REVERSE" situation. I tried to point out if the situation was reversed, Ganga would have been the vamp, not the female lead. No one would accept a woman doing what Saagar has done as a man, yet still portrayed as the "hero".

Originally posted by: jacina19saga

i think u dont understand the story gangaa is orphan girl not sagar and sagar father niru who bring her to his house and its sagar return with a girl named jhanvi ur wrong ur post is incorrect sab ulta kardiya im sorry if i hurt u but its the truth i hope u understand the story dear then make a post about saga without inderstanding no one will replay in your post if u do this

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Posted: 9 years ago
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@jacina19saga 😆 It is you DEAR, who doesnt understand the post written by @tia.o. She mentioned "Reverse situation" in the title...please pay attention to the post first and dont just jump to conclusions. She is saying that we would never like GANGAA if she was in place of SAGAR. REASON: we love immature male characters who would go down to extreme lengths to get what they want.

YOU LOVE SAGA- which is cute but dont underestimate other's opinions. I have replied to this post and will reply to every post which makes sense to me. Mujhe ye show pasand hai iska matlab ye nahi hai ki main characters (like sagar) ke kuch bhi ulta sidha karne par bhi unhe pasand karti rahungi. Vishal is doing a great job but Sagar has lost it.
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You are right. People do take drastic steps in anger. But legal marriage is not done in a blink of an eye. He did not just walked into another room where Jahnvi was and filled her forehead with sindoor.

He brought back Jahnvi from her parents' house, went to court, applied for marriage license and legally married her. That takes planning. It can't be done on a whim.

Also, we know Jahnvi is bad, he doesn't know that. That means in his anger, he ruined an innocent girl (which is what he thinks Jahnvi is) and now that he realizes that it was a mistake he is still not rectifying it.

When Gangaa throws him out, like a good obedient boy he goes to Jahnvi yet doesn't want to stay with her either. When Jahnvi gets upset at him for hanging over Ganga, he threatens her with divorce, but doesn't divorce her. That tells me that he doesn't understand the importance of love or marriage or respect for women. He wants Ganga to stay in his life at his beck and call but also wants the cushy life and adoration of his family hence stays with Jahnvi.

I can't respect a man like that.

Originally posted by: Mifra_14

im confused cz im somehow agree and dis agree with ur poat

sagar had a fit of fury, thats why he took such big step, and its human nature, that we commit such mistakes in anger that would cost us heavily afterwards, same the case with sagr(in this way i disagree with u)
but on the other hand this sudden dtep prove that he has not firm fith in his love(in this way i agree with u)

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Posted: 9 years ago
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This ain't anything Man Vs Woman actually. It's about humans, their flaws and their core personalities and mistakes.

I do not and will not absolve Gangaa of all fault. Self-respect is so self-explanatory as a term but the way they highlight it and made Gangaa wear it on her sleeve... sorry it has descended to EGO.

It did not take her a second to let go off Sagar with that hoity toity air when Niru asked her to return Sagar.

Tell me, in reverse or normal situation, how would a person who has left everything behind for you doesn't have the same SELF RESPECT as you? When the very person they left everything for gives you away in charity?

I don't condone Sagar's actions what followed later but in no way I think Ganga is above Sagar or deserves something better than him.

Both have flaws ... Sagar was ready to bend his ego for her but she is not. Even if you reverse the situation, that flaw is too obvious to let go... Just because she is Woman we can't let her ego parade as self-respect.

In my view both need to learn their respective lessons.

One thing I agree here is Sagar should've by now divorced Jhanvi... Whether Ganga is going to be a part of his life or not... he knows he took a bad decision, so he should take steps to correct it. Make up his mind and not treat Jhanvi unfairly.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: seriallover_OMG

@jacina19saga😆It is you DEAR, who doesnt understand the post written by @tia.o. She mentioned "Reverse situation" in the title...please pay attention to the post first and dont just jump to conclusions. She is saying that we would never like GANGAA if she was in place of SAGAR. REASON: we love immature male characters who would go down to extreme lengths to get what they want.

YOU LOVE SAGA- which is cute but dont underestimate other's opinions. I have replied to this post and will reply to every post which makes sense to me. Mujhe ye show pasand hai iska matlab ye nahi hai ki main characters (like sagar) ke kuch bhi ulta sidha karne par bhi unhe pasand karti rahungi. Vishal is doing a great job but Sagar has lost it.


jump to conclusion u dont have the right to talk to me like this yes ur right maine title nahi dekha but iska matlab nahi hai ki mein jawab nahi denge u should respect my view wrong or right u should respect i hate people like this speak nicely if i jump or Not its Not ur affair u have the right to replay and i have right to replay too understand😡
Edited by jacina19saga - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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If that was showed in a show, Gangaa would be the vamp, not the female lead.

So how is that Saagar is the male lead? Is it because he is a man and not a woman? So him being a total characterless jerk who likes to have his cake and eat it too should still be all right?

Hmm...As stated in the above post I don't think it's got anything to do with being a Man and a Woman...for the most part we take our cues on the leads based on what is narrated and anyone who comes in the way is considered a vamp. If you look at Janvi and Sahil's character...When they were first introduced they come in between Sagar and Gangaa so they were viewed at the bad guys. Initially Janvi very clearly stated to Sagar that Gangaa has feelings for him and she competes with him in everything but Sagar is the one who asked her to stay back. After that she selfishly pursued Sagar, even though her brother realized that Sagar and Gangaa love each other. But initially she didn't present herself as a vamp, yet because she stood between Sagar and Gangaa she was automatically one.


If Saagar didn't have Jahnvi in his mind as a back up plan, what he would have done? Would he have drag someone from the street and marry her?

The only way you can come up with a marriage partner that fast when you already have a plan B in mind. That means he was playing with Gangaa thinking he can always fall back on safe bet Jahnvi approved by family with access to family wealth.

If plan A doesn't work out, there is always plan B. But he doesn't want to let go of Ganga either so while legally being married to Jahnvi, he is hanging around Ganga hoping she, like other men and women forgive him using age old excuse "boys will be boys"

I don't think he was leading Gangaa on. I think he was angry and wanted to hurt Gangaa about as much as her words hurt him. He was ready to leave his family for her and she so easily gave him away. She reacted in anger and hurt him and he reacted in anger and just created more hurt and anger. Nothing good can come out of anger and Gangaa and Sagar's undoing is because of their own. Both Gangaa and Sagar are to equally blame in their situation. They aren't your white protagonists. Only difference is that Sagar in his anger almost acted to a point of no return with his marriage.

If Ganga refuses, she doesn't love him. If Janvi protests, threaten her with divorce. But if it's such a major mistake, why not get divorced now? Why just make empty threats? Ganga refused him, so he tucked his tail and walked back to plan B?

If this had happened after he had legally married Ganga, what would he have done? Go and have affair with Jahnvi?

Jahnvi might be a b**ch of the first order, but Sagar is no one's idea of a hero. In fact these two are made for each other.

Gangaa constantly walks a thin line between self-respect and pride and ego. The problem is that both have equally hurt each other and both have been somewhat of a jerk to each other. So you can't really say that the blame lies with one person over the other. Gangaa did the same to Sagar what Niru did to her. So it was natural for him to be hurt. Honestly neither of them are mature enough to nurture their relationship. At least Sagar apologizes for his actions, Gangaa rarely does and doesn't easily forgive either.

Ganga is better off without him. Imagine having to live with a man who gets angry and takes extreme steps instead of coming to you and talk to you like any other ADULT rational man.

Gangaa acts equally irrationally. Even when she was returning to get her things from the Chaturvedi mansion, and Sudha Bua asked her to wait and go with Sagar she refused to. She's quick to judge and often does things without thinking it all the way through letting her emotions rule her. I think they both have a lot to grow.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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In my opinion, he is a self-centred, immature, privileged jerk who a. doesn't know how to love because true love means that you have to jump completely, no plan B and b. whines like a kid who doesn't want to let go of any of his toys!!!
Lol well said.. But then Cvs made their Male lead character weak I guess so that Gangaa can be shown strong and gets all the sympathy and respect..

Both are flawed and they love each other. But...end of the day it's a show and.. The audience want SaGa to be together...

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